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12:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Chan
This has now been resolved. Thanks for the report! — Jon Chan ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
 
 
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1:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cs95
We should also consider blacklisting leetcode if it makes a re-appearance (although given a certain user's tagging history with this tag, we might want to do that sooner than later). — cs95 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cs95
Leetcode is gone! That was fast, thanks for your help! What about competitive-coding? Are there too many questions tagged there to recommend manually editing the tags out? — cs95 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@cs95 I seem to have a distorted sense of “too many”. It’s only 113 posts; make sure to get off-topic stuff closed as you burn! — Martijn Pieters ♦ 38 secs ago
 
 
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2:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Z Kubota
@Trilarion please re-read my comment from the begining — Z Kubota 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
 
2:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Yes, it does not. Why do you have any doubt? — philipxy 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Z Kubota
@TemaniAfif that's exactly that's how you start a rep-hunter. "simply" do 7edits? -- I was so disheartened the first time I got a downvoted answer, I didn't even want to participate for quite a while after that. All the newbie questions and answers are already taken! Or they get answered very quickly. New generation of users have new expectations. SO UX team really needs to be even more innovative than this, but this is a good start. — Z Kubota 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@philipxy "Yes, it does not." Does not count as non-reproducible? — Ann Zen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Z Kubota
@yaakov-ellis maybe share with us how long it takes average new user to collect "only" 15 rep? — Z Kubota 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
I don't understand your comment. I am answering your title question. A MRE should be as cut & paste & runnable as possible. (I disagree with comments here. They just promote poor questions.) PS Unfortunately your title & especially your post are made unclear by your many negations, some of which seem to be included to show you have doubts, but all the negation makes it hard to follow & answer. — philipxy 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Maarten To be fair, most moderation policies are pretty well established at this point, so unless a candidate wants to make a deliberate stand about proactively changing or reinterpreting those, I think it's reasonable to assume that they'll be joining the existing crew and keeping many of the same policies and procedures. What really matters are the issues that the question you've identified get at. And these do influence the normal operation of SO mods far more than you seem to think. This is a large part of what I deal with, and what is most distressing to me, as a mod. — Cody Gray ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Icepickle It doesn't make sense to wait any longer. No "resolution" is forthcoming. Even though we all hope things will improve, with the goal of eventually resolving, it will be a long process, not something that we can wait for before holding another moderator election. As was discussed when the election was announced, we need to hold an election now because we're very short on moderators, and it's causing very long backlogs on flag handling, etc. — Cody Gray ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@philipxy feel free to edit it if it'll make you feel better. — Ann Zen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@philipxy That's not what I mean. — Ann Zen 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Your comment frames my postscript as an issue around my feelings instead of an objective lack of clarity impeding you getting the results you want. — philipxy 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@philipxy Anyway, if you say I shouldn't have any doubt, how come I've been receiving feedback all day that tells me otherwise? I appreciate you sharing your opinion, and your opinion on this relates to mine. — Ann Zen 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Thank you to everyone for your thoughts, suggestions, and comments! The 2020 Moderator Election Question Collection has now concluded. You can find the official questionnaire here, along with the candidates' answers. Don't forget to vote! — Cody Gray ♦ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phani Rithvij
And commenting something on test questions should not result in Whoa you commented on a nice question pal you were not paying attention. — Phani Rithvij 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phani Rithvij
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Odd. I find I have much more time available to devote to the site on weekends. That's when I go through a lot of the Meta posts, handle the most moderator flags, etc. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Can I pressure you to expand this answer into something that I would upvote, namely calling out the objections that I know you share to Stack Overflow being regarded as a Help Desk, explaining that badges and other accomplishments aren't to reward the provision of timely help, but rather to reward contributions to this as a global knowledge base, thus time is irrelevant? I want to decline the proposal, but this doesn't provide quite the explicit justification that is needed to do so. — Cody Gray ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Z Kubota
@CodyGray I don't see the word "dislike" on this page anywhere. stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/vote-downZ Kubota 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Nor do I see the words "unclear", "not interesting", "not useful", "lacks research effort", or any of the other dozens of reasons why someone might downvote a post. That page doesn't provide, and isn't intended to provide, a comprehensive list. — Cody Gray ♦ 26 secs ago
 
3:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LinkBerest
As the asker of question #7, I just want to say I appreciate it being asked without alteration - these last two years I may have seemed more adversarial then I wished to be. My question stands but I do appreciate the CM's work. — LinkBerest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
There are no nuanced differences; that's the entire point of my comment. People regularly downvote things on Reddit because they are unclear, not interesting, not useful, etc. Yes, the expectation of research effort is slightly different, and our quality standards are higher here, but that isn't a property of the voting system. — Cody Gray ♦ 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Z Kubota
@CodyGray If I "dislike" a reddit comment, of course I have a reason -- I didn't like the tone, maybe I don't like their username. An SO "like" supposedly has nuance, deeper than social media REACTION buttons. SO retains the same old iconography as social media, then expects NEW users to get the different nuance! >sigh< Four separate buttons labeled "unclear", "not interesting", "not useful", "lacks research effort" would be more objective. "Dislike" is subjective. — Z Kubota 1 min ago
 
4:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phill
Yeah I see your point about voting arrows next to the user - that could sway voting in other ways, people voting for users rather than answers. What about the separate thank you box? I think the idea of users self filtering their comments could cut down on work load significantly while letting people have their thank yous. Like I mention, the descriptive boxes could be guiding the intention in the place where users are when they are thinking about their reaction to the post. They aren't more choices either, they are just repeating the same thing where people can see it — Phill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phill
I also think the space at the end of a post looks plain barren. If I'm new and looking for the next interaction, the only thing I find is "share edit follow flag" which doesn't help much, and then I find "add a comment" and I'm like "Ah something familiar, I know what to do here". Again, the point is new users are struggling. Experienced users don't have this issue — Phill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Z Kubota
@CodyGray SO's UI utilizes one of the most universally-accepted internet icons for "dislike for any reason you choose" (second perhaps only to the thumbs-down,) but then expects new users to click it strictly when signifying "unclear", "not interesting", "not useful", "lacks research effort", "egregiously sloppy", "no-effort-expended", "clearly and perhaps dangerously incorrect". Only confusion can come from such a dichotomy! smh... Good night and may the force be with you, Cody. — Z Kubota 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 1201ProgramAlarm
Consider what Crazy Idea 3 would look like on small display. Too much text and crowding on a touchscreen phone. — 1201ProgramAlarm 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phill
That's a good point. The buttons don't have to be obnoxiously large, just enough to get the point across. Obviously they can be implemented in a suitable way, it doesn't have to look like my slap dash hack job of an image :) — Phill 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phill
Another point that just occurred to me: The fact that you've hacked a way around the UI to make it more usable for yourself is a sign that something is missing! — Phill 55 secs ago
 
4:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@CodyGray: I'll hazard an edit sometime tomorrow... Seems like it's worth the effort. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Phill That area is only barren until the post has been edited. After an edit has occurred, that big area in the middle contains the user card of the last editor (as well as the timestamp of the edit, and a link to see the whole revision history). Power users often hack around the site to make it more usable for them. A lot of what we do is weird, so a lot of my customizations would not necessarily be useful in general. But I agree that this one would be an improvement. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
No. You keep reiterating a claim that I have denied since my very first comment. The downvote arrow means "dislike for any reason you choose". Users are literally allowed to vote, either up or down, for any reason they choose, as long as they are not committing vote fraud. There's no confusion here; you're just concocting a bunch of arbitrary stipulations on what votes mean that simply aren't there and were never intended to be there. The explanation that downvotes typically mean unclear/uninteresting/lacks research effort/etc. are just that: clarifications. They don't bind the button's usage. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SL5net
May one day somebody create a filter bookmarklet for that. please inform me then — SL5net 5 secs ago
 
5:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
I don't think these ideas are anywhere near crazy, they all make sense to me. What I'd describe crazy is the stupid thanks reaction thing they rolled out a few weeks ago. — oguz ismail 28 secs ago
 
5:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard is Ear For You
Bulletin needs a hard cache reset as far as I can tell. Is that really what "fixed" it? (Useful for future issues) — Shadow Wizard is Ear For You 1 min ago
 
6:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
It's interesting that there are more questions about array than about C. Or rather were. Maybe the tag order could be updated to reflect the current state from time to time. — Trilarion 1 min ago
 
6:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@MaartenBodewes For the same reasons, I doubt we'll even see 3 good candidates. — Lundin 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phill
yeah, the area underneath isn't always barren. I guess one main point of my post is that the area underneath is under utilised... insert "It's Free Real Estate" meme herePhill 1 min ago
 
6:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou yes, and a firm bang on top of the server to have it behave again .... — rene just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Federico Dorato
@halfer I can totally understand — Federico Dorato 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Federico Dorato
@SecurityHound The lack of patience is a totally reasonable answer :P — Federico Dorato 1 min ago
 
7:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard is Ear For You
@rene what if the server is virtual? Or hosted 1000 miles away? ;) — Shadow Wizard is Ear For You 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Moshe Slavin
Have you tried opening in incognito? I can see it works fine! the bug is probably on our end... — Moshe Slavin 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou they run on bare metal. And at least one SRE lives near New Jersey so at most that is a 30 minute metro ride ... — rene 6 secs ago
 
7:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amanda
I just tried and I get the same message in Chrome (incognito), Firefox and Safari. — Amanda 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Maybe some time over the weekend ;-) — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
Moreover such comments, if they are burden (e.g. too many), can be flagged as "conversational" and mods will simply delete them. — Sinatr 1 min ago
 
8:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
@CodyGray Hmm. Your scrolling vote script scrolls the votes behind the top nav bar for me :/ — DavidPostill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Additional problem with idea 1: it would introduce some weirdness with the responsive layout, as well as block the place the "edited by" box usually shows up in — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@DavidPostill Ah, you must have the sticky top bar. I've turned that off so I can maximize the amount of screen space available to content. I haven't tested with that enabled at all. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Braun
I like Crazy Idea 2! — Martin Braun 1 min ago
 
8:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cs95
@LinkBerest I feel the same way about #2. I'm pretty sure I left a comment but it must've been removed. — cs95 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Thanks for the edit. I thought that I could add a bit to the discussion, so I posted my own answer. But I think you formulated it very well and balanced now. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
I've re-learned today that moderators do have a rate limit on voting. I'm out of votes for another 15 hours! — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Manohar Reddy
What will happen if the nominated candidates are unfit for becoming moderator . Will they get elected even if they get 1 vote ? — Manohar Reddy 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@ManoharReddy "What will happen if the nominated candidates are unfit for becoming moderator" We can only hope. — philipxy 1 min ago
 
9:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Also, interesting to note that the custom filters are not shown on that page. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@Trilarion: The more answers, the better :) — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Journeyman Geek
They clearly need a robot arm to bang on the top of the server... — Journeyman Geek 1 min ago
 
9:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
There are so many things wrong with this answer that I don't know where to begin ... — DavidPostill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Yes, this should be burned. I’m including it in this list of programming competition metatags. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
I see in my "votes and reactions" activity that this is indeed the case. — CodeCaster 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by P.P
The most important aspect of electing a moderator from the community is - besides doing the moderation work - to inform the community that SO Inc trusts the community to self-moderate. The community moderators essentially represent the trust & goodwill that's supposed to exist between the company and community. So given all the recent events (especially over the last year), I don't see the point of electing moderators (except for free labour). IMHO, SO Inc should just hire some moderators & be done with this sham! — P.P 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bergi
@CodeCaster I'm going to undo these now. — Bergi 1 min ago
 
10:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by m4n0
@Catija Was my comment too harsh or too real to be deleted? :D — m4n0 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
related : meta.stackoverflow.com/q/373443/8620333 (not sure if you can use the userscript on mobile) — Temani Afif 57 secs ago
 
11:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Are you talking about the inline tag editor? I still see tag previews, including the wiki summary, there. — Cody Gray ♦ 18 secs ago
 
11:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
yes, 3 (random chars because 15 character limit in comments) — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
don't worry, a lot of candidates are coming .. we will easily reach around 20 (they are all preparing their answers ) — Temani Afif 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@TemaniAfif Crosses fingers and toesNick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@ManoharReddy "What will happen if the nominated candidates are unfit for becoming moderator . Will they get elected even if they get 1 vote ?" Probably not if they get 1 vote. Company employees can probably halt an election at any point. It depends a bit on how desperately new moderators are needed and how many good candidates are coming forward. So far it wasn't really needed, but I could imagine a "None of the above" voting option. — Trilarion 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@CodyGray I'm not sure what you mean by 'the inline tag editor', but as I said, either way of editing a post--on this very page via clicking 'edit' for the whole post or 'Edit tags' for just the tags--I get no summaries when a tag name is hilighted in the 'Tags' box, I just get a choice of matching tags. This was on Window 10 Firefox 78.0.1 (64-bit) with & without Add-Ons Disabled. — philipxy 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Lundin "For the same reasons, I doubt we'll even see 3 good candidates." I guess we may see at least 2 candidates. After all it seems that chances to add "Moderator on SO" to your CV were never better. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
Do you have specific examples of answers you feel were particularly bad? Most of the users you mentioned have a lot of answers. I looked at a few random ones and while I don't think any of the users are leaving high quality answers, I didn't see anything that was particularly awful. But maybe i just looked at the wrong answers — psubsee2003 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
@psubsee2003 I will edit my question to include a few examples. — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Okay, then I cannot repro that. I have the exact same configuration (Windows 10, Firefox 78.0.1, 64-bit). — Cody Gray ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@CodyGray See screen shots. I'll add a meta.se example. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
@psubsee2003 I have edited my question to include a few examples. — MrUpsidown 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@Trilarion there has to be three candidates for the election to happen. If there's fewer, no one gets the diamond — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Federico - You knew exactly what you were doing. You knew from your own description you knew it was a bad idea. You knew it wasn’t what you were supposed to do. Why do I suspect that? You wanted to close the question as a duplicate which shows you knew what the correct action actually was — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@CodyGray See screen shots--2 bad meta.so, 1 normal meta.se. — philipxy 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Federico Dorato
@SecurityHound Ehi, that is not wrong! But what crossed my mind is "there are two ways to close properly a question on SA: close it for reasons (ex: it is a duplicate) or answering it. Case closed" — Federico Dorato 23 secs ago
 
12:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@TemaniAfif Then why are you wasting time here on Meta? Get busy! :-p — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
no, not for me :) I don't want to handle a ton of custom flag .. I want to raise them and blame moderators for not being active :p — Temani Afif 1 min ago
 
1:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
Please consider putting your name at the top of your post so that readers will know who you are before they finish reading everything you have written, and also including a link to your answer on your nomination post.Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@FedericoDorato - When you answer a question it is not closed. It remains open. You also have to keep in mind, you resubmitted an answer, that was deleted a third time. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ray Butterworth
Does "not proceed" mean it will be postponed until some later date, or that the nominees will be immediately acclaimed? — Ray Butterworth 7 secs ago
 
1:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
 
1:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@MrUpsidown - well, somebody at Maps support team really likes the idea of SO support. When editing Google APIs tag wiki, I was surprized to see a list of tags on the suppport page (which I think is bad practice - as it goes against the "split API from the product" idea and creates extra curation burden) — Oleg Valter 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Ray No, no one will be "automatically" elected. Updated the answer to hopefully clarify. — Cody Gray ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Is this a duplicate of Automated CommonMark migration ruins long list items? I think posts with such lists could not be migrated and you have to be careful when editing such posts. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
So that’s what it was! That’s why I had reactions on my profile that I don’t remember casting. I assumed this only happened when the duplicate was also closed by Community. Mystery solved. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Is it possible to blacklist these? — S.S. Anne 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
No repro on Firefox Nightly 80.0a1, Arch Linux. Do you get any errors or warnings in the console or in the Network tab of your dev tools? — user4642212 1 min ago
 
2:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I don't believe your laissez-faire demeanor towards moderation is what I'm looking for in a moderator right now. Your answers to #7 and #10 especially don't sit as well with me because it indicates less of an interest in advocating for the community in addition to the janitorial work. I get the distinct impression you're looking for the power alone. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Benjamin W.
I feel like these shouldn't be edited by the community to fix typos etc.; I'd like to see how a candidate writes without "help". — Benjamin W. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Add-ons Disabled web console on page load: The resource at “<URL>” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. 3 >> The resource at “https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. tag-edits-no-longer-have-quick-wiki-access The resource at “https://secure.quantserve.com/quant.js” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. tag-edits-no-longer-have-quick-wiki-access The resource at “https://sb.scorecardresearch.com/beacon.js” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. tag-edits-no-longer-have-quick-wiki-accessphilipxy 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Turning off Firefox 'enhanced tracking protection' for the site & reloading Some cookies are misusing the recommended “sameSite“ attribute 7 >> Cookie “_dlt” will be soon rejected because it has the “sameSite” attribute set to “none” or an invalid value, without the “secure” attribute. To know more about the “sameSite“ attribute, read https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cook‌​ie/SameSite & messages for 6 other cookies. — philipxy 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marijn
Related/cross-site duplicate: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/345143/…. Also here on SO stackoverflow.com/questions?tab=Unanswered does show HNQ whereas stackoverflow.com/unanswered does not show it. — Marijn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Spektre
@user4642212 If I read it right that post is about - lists not 1. 2. 3. bullets — Spektre 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@user4642212 Then turning off Firefox 'enhanced tracking protection' for the site & loading: Some cookies are misusing the recommended “sameSite“ attribute 7 >> Cookie “_dlt” will be soon rejected because it has the “sameSite” attribute set to “none” or an invalid value, without the “secure” attribute. To know more about the “sameSite“ attribute, read https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cook‌​ie/SameSite & messages for 6 other cookies. Still bug. — philipxy 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@user4642212 No add-ons web console on page load: The resource at “<URL>” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. 3 >> The resource at “https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. tag-edits-no-longer-have-quick-wiki-access The resource at “https://secure.quantserve.com/quant.js” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. tag-edits-no-longer-have-quick-wiki-access The resource at “https://sb.scorecardresearch.com/beacon.js” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. tag-edits-no-longer-have-quick-wiki-access Still bug. — philipxy 1 min ago
 
3:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
The formatting changed in the same way for both list types. In CommonMark you need to match the indentation of paragraphs with the list numbers or bullets. Posts where this makes a difference were not migrated, regardless of list type. — user4642212 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
This is one of the most useful answers on MSO :-) — einpoklum 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ggorlen
This appears to be a problem but it seems the only thing to do is down/delete vote and flag non-, low-quality and link-only answers same as any other user. It's probably futile to ask these companies to keep only third-tier customer support on SO commensurate with our quality standards. — ggorlen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Hi augustinus ntjamba, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you're in a question ban, as you definitely know how to post questions on SO. EDIT: It's also a duplicate of your previous question. — fbueckert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
"If it drew multiple flags it means multiple people were triggered by this, which says something about the intent" Offense is taken not given. The fact that multiple people were "triggered" says nothing about the intent. — Michael 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cesar M
@ShadowWizardisEarForYou No, it wasn't just cache, there were actually three items in the bulletin, so two needed to be deleted. — Cesar M ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Nomenclature thing: That's the tag excerpt (a.k.a., User guidance) that's showing, not the tag wiki. I expect everyone understands what you're talking about though, hence I'm not editing and just commenting in case you want to edit :). — Heretic Monkey 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tschallacka
@Makoto You word Cody Gray's opinion as well. It is also why I debated with myself and in the election chat if I should offer myself as a candidate. My laissez-faire demeanor largely stems from the actions Stack Overflow has performed the last year(s) and how I internally hurt because I feared for the community. I had to distance myself from Stack Overflow and nearly considered quitting at one point. Then the company promised better and I decided to hold out, but honestly, I'm scared to tie myself too closely, in fear of being hurt again. I cared too deeply about SO, and needed to distance. — Tschallacka 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tschallacka
@Michael True, I should word there that it causes offense. I will modify that. Thank you. — Tschallacka just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tschallacka
@Makato 2/2 But in the end it was suggested that overall I would make a good candidate, and that it was at least worth the shot to nominate myself. I care for SO, and I want it to remain and grow and be healthy. But I do try to keep a healthy distance, as not to have sleepness nights again about where Stack Overflow is going, losing the shining jewel that it was/is. — Tschallacka 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sc cc
It is true only for intermediate developers not a beginner. I have come to realise we cannot ask beginner level questions here unless we come up with a very specific problem at a later stage. So , found out a forum for beginners for now, using it and will come back when i have specific questions as an medium dev — sc cc 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
Yes, I am aware of this support page and the fact that Google pushes their users to get support here which I don't really have an issue with. I wish they would make it clearer though that they should come here for technical/coding questions only. I close-vote Google Maps related questions almost on a daily basis, from users who have questions about their billing account, their non-working API key, etc. and they often don't understand they don't get an answer because of that exact page. Thanks for your input anyway. — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@HereticMonkey I did research to find tag wiki 'summary' used somewhere jn the documentation. I see on the tag wiki editing page there is tag wiki 'info' mentioned & a bigger box of editable stuff which is maybe the 'wiki' or the part of the 'wiki' that isn't the '(excerpt)' & 'usage guidance' that is somehow an 'excerpt' & that a help page asks ' What should a tag wiki excerpt contain?' but frankly the disorganized search-engine anti-manual attitude of SO Inc documentation is such a mess that I just stopped when I found one term. — philipxy 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
I also wish that if the users I mentioned in my question really are Google support employees, they would use SO with all due respect to the platform rules and not take it for their own support channel, providing information to head to the issue tracker or to contact the support team the proper way; that is, in a comment, and not in an answer (that's what they should do IMO). — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Too true on the SO Inc docs... "excerpt" and "wiki" are just the terms I've heard most often in meta discussions over the years, but I've certainly not been in all of them. As I say, I think everyone knows what you're talking about. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@MrUpsidown - I don't have too, especially if staff participates as prominently as some. Just a bit worried that officially linking tags to issues could one day lead to disputes during cleanups / retags / etc. Re:clearer - well, they have a whole section, but something tells me that those who ask such questions rarely do read FAQs, help centers or even tag wikis prior to posting. Re:page - don't mind my links, I am sure you've seen this all - I always insert them so others have context where applicable. — Oleg Valter 23 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@HereticMonkey FAQ for Stack Exchange sites link What is a tag wiki? How do I write a good one? answer: "Each tag on Stack Exchange has two pieces of user-editable content associated with it: • a short tag wiki excerpt of up to about 500 characters of plain text, and • a full tag wiki page describing the tag in more detail." "The tag wiki excerpt is shown: [...] • in the menu of available tags shown when a user is adding tags to a question." — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Barwood
Seems like quite a few of your links have just been taken down. — George Barwood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@HereticMonkey But that's immediately followed by 'A "learn more" link, shown alongside the excerpt, points to the "info" tab for the tag, which shows the full tag wiki. This is also the place where both the excerpt and the full tag wiki can be edited.' Uhhhnn ... PS Thanks. — philipxy 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Izkata
I think @tripleee inadvertently showed why such a feature could be useful, but also why this implementation doesn't work: Reacting to one specific part of the post instead of upvoting it as a whole. — Izkata 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
As far as the requirements go, here's a description of the entire election process, including requirements meta.stackexchange.com/questions/135360/…StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Certain familiarity with what's involved with the role it's expected. A minimum involvement in the community and with janitorial duties is recommended. E.g. you do not even cast a lot of regular votes. If you do not even engage in that minimum-effort moderation and curation efforts, why would you want to have additional moderation privileges? — yivi 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
@Izkata In fact it was very much on purpose, but thanks for spelling it out. — tripleee 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
If you’re asking about what the moderator tools are, see the corresponding tag info. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Considering you only have one post on meta, you're not close to meeting one of the badge requirements. You're not eligible for running. — Zoe 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Always Sunny
Thanks both of you for the valuable links and thanks to downvoters also — Always Sunny 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
If you find the few downvotes here already worth commenting on, you would be surprised what you have to endure once you are elected as a mod ... ;) — rene 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 likes many things
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Always Sunny
got it @rene, thanks a lot — Always Sunny 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 likes many things
Also, the relevant question at Meta SE: meta.stackexchange.com/q/333965E_net4 likes many things 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Does this answer your question? Who or what is Monica and why so much notice from SE users?. It’s a very long story that involves a ton of context, and it’s not just about Monica. — user4642212 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Always Sunny
I think I am doing good as only a contributor :) I need to build more patience to be a part of Moderator's :P — Always Sunny 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Here is a FAQ post on MSE about moderators and their duties: meta.stackexchange.com/a/75192/158100rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Understanding what happened is a lot easier said than done, not gonna lie. It started with a CoC change and a mod being fired, it extended into a licensing mess and a full-on conflict with the company that we're still dealing with to some degree to this day, even if the bulk of the drama has calmed down. There's quite a lot of reading material on all the different issues - if you plan on reading everything, you probably have enough reading material for a week or two — Zoe 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Answers aside, I have no idea why that question was closed in the first place, it isn't remotely opinion-based. — John Montgomery 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
I blame Nick. He was testing something with caches. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
I think ut is ok that support staff looks here too after their related problem and when the give a good answer, that is nit spam, they should keep doing it,more people are helped more fun it makes — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
A no longer needed flag is enough for deleting a comment, so no big deal. Though I don't think saying StackOverflow is not a free coding service should be a reason for account suspension. — oguz ismail 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
BTW, you all have 6 tags about swift. — Braiam 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Hey, I remember that discussion. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
That comment alone is probably not the reason you got suspended. Mods don't suspend without a very good reason - what you need to ask yourself now is if you want that to be made public. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dexygen
ONE. OF. THE. REASONS. Sheesh — Dexygen 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@Zoe Nitpicking (:;): Probably because the issues surrounding Monica and the CoC change are such a large, important part of everything that went on, you've got the order of some things incorrect, and (understandably) elide for brevity other issues leading up to Monica and that CoC change. I'm mostly reacting to saying it started with Monica and the CoC change. IMO, it's more accurate to say things had been on edge well before they blew up with Monica and the CoC change, but the issues didn't start there. It is, however, a good demarcation for the increase in the intensity of the issues. — Makyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Sounds very similar to the html5 tag issueMachavity 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sc cc
It is true only for intermediate developers not a beginner. I have come to realise we cannot ask beginner level questions here unless we come up with a very specific problem at a later stage. So , found out a forum for beginners for now, using it and will come back when i have specific questions as an medium dev. Also, even this question was closed here with "Needs details or clarity" , but was opened by a generous moderator as he had modified the post for me. But if even meta questions are closed, it is not worth asking until a certain point here. Thanks to those who answered. — sc cc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@Makyen I tried including more, but it's hard getting everything in 600 characters or less without leaving out details. Some issues have been around for years, but arguably the start of the major issues was with Monica. It escalated with the home page and HMP issues, but it really started there (in my opinion though, to be clear). But yeah, the situation is very complex :') — Zoe 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Replies like the one in your previous comment show that you may want to work a bit in your communication style. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
same with python-2 and python-3, and java version tags... Lots of tags with versions struggle with split traffic because people don't read tagging guidance. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by M--
@TylerH sugar is addictive. "And it certainly isn't helpful", from whose perspective? For the person in need of help and people who care, no it is not. For people who just want to keep that person around, it is most certainly helpful. medium.com/rta902/…M-- 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 likes many things
Considering that we speak of a 30 day suspension, I fear we're missing the elephant in the room. — E_net4 likes many things 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Zoe do they need to? For most questions, they are irrelevant to the version of the language. Yes, the implementation may be different, but if my question is "how to write a hello world?" there shouldn't be a question for every version of the language. (ie. that question in python should have 2-3 answers) — Braiam 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
I like how pragmatic your answers are. At the end of the day, I believe moderators have an important role in bridging the gap between the company and the community, and you give me this kind confidence. Good luck — blackgreen 14 secs ago
 
6:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sc cc
It is true only for intermediate developers not a beginner. I have come to realise we cannot ask beginner level questions here unless we come up with a very specific problem at a later stage. So , found out a forum for beginners for now, using it and will come back when i have specific questions as a medium level dev. Also, even this question was closed here with "Needs details or clarity" , but was opened by a generous moderator as he had modified the post for me. But if even meta questions are closed, it is not worth asking until a certain point here. Thanks to those who answered. — sc cc 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael - Where&#39;s Clay Shirky
@Makoto RE "codified in the official FAQ:" Well, there's a blog post from the CEO saying "We’re making hard choices and treating no assumptions as sacred in considering ways to evolve the community." Emphasis mine. Perhaps this is one of those. — Michael - Where's Clay Shirky 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Presumably moderators are expected to be perfect first time, every time ;-) — Robert Longson 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Actually, I just randomly happened to be reminded of this project made by Samuel Liew: stackexchange-timeline.webflow.io - jump to 2018 and scroll up. It summarizes a lot of the main events — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
"My goal will be to bring the community's focus back to the content, rather than the company's actions" IMO in a lot of cases the company's actions have often directly contributed to the amount of poor quality content (firing a good moderator for a bad reason, and causing the resignation of many. the welcoming. retro-actively increasing question rep without thinking it through). If you care about the content, you must hold the company accountable for their decisions which influence it. — Michael 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by manveti
@DavidPostill Easy enough to fix by bumping top from 0 to 50px (or whatever size is appropriate for your display) — manveti 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
@manveti Thanks. I'll play with that later. — DavidPostill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@Michael-Where'sClayShirky: I would never have guessed that policy would be an assumption. Color me surprised. — Makoto 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Magically it works again. Weird — Machavity 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sarah Messer
Does OP get to see comments or reviewer's justification when question's marked as Unsalvageable? I just marked a "Why can't I find a tutorial on [two common technologies]?" question as Unsalvageable. It was the author's first post, and I don't mind tossing a couple links at them, but I want them to know why I rejected it. — Sarah Messer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Fro a moment I though there will be no candidates worth voting for ;) Thank you for throwing your hat in. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
While I think you would be good, at least from the interactions I've had with you before, these answers seem kind of... subdued? I'm not really sure I understand your motivation or your optimism — Michael 33 secs ago
 
7:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@Michael I don't want to write a novel, per se, but I did try to address your question with an edit. — Machavity 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-Fran&#231;ois Fabre
else leave it as is, it's good enough already — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
I'm not sure that I agree that someone overflowing with enthusiasm is who you want carrying the "keys to the nukes". You want someone who is experienced, level-headed, and most importantly approachable enough to accept counsel and feedback. — Ian Campbell 9 secs ago
 
7:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Omielan
Excellent answer, but there's one small issue. It takes only 15 reputation points to upvote, but it takes 50 (not 15) to be able to comment everywhere, e.g., see the Privileges help page. — John Omielan 33 secs ago
 
8:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by hairboat
Acknowledged and will investigate. Will report back here. Thanks! — hairboat ♦ 24 secs ago
 
8:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael - Where&#39;s Clay Shirky
We "assumed" that policy was exempt. 😐 — Michael - Where's Clay Shirky 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
What would you do to encourage downvoting? And would you continue to use downvotes were you to be given a binding and unlimited "Delete" button? — Adrian Mole 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
Would you (or could you) continue to be an SOCVR Room Owner were you to be awarded the diamond? — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@AdrianMole Copied from last year's nomination: I don't see any conflict of interest there. I would expect I'll be making far fewer CVs from myself and not voting on the queue as much, but mostly I keep the rules and run cleanup. Even Bhargav has enforced rules and he's never been an RO. If the other ROs asked me to step down I would. If there were moderator action needed against the SOCVR room itself (I've never seen that happen) I would have to recuse myself from that, obviously. — Machavity 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chevybow
Glad to see you running again this year. — chevybow 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
What does "I have the meddle" mean? — wim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
lol, yeah, meddling isn't really my thing. Good catch, should be mettle. Don't have any medals :( plenty of badges though! — Travis J 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
Is it "mettle" or "medal?" — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
Ahh, of course! It was an amusing slip for a mod questionnaire :) — wim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
Too many Is, stopped reading after the third — oguz ismail 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
Fair enough, although there are a lot of you's in the questions, so they are aimed at getting personalized responses. — Travis J 50 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@AdrianMole Yes, I think I would use it even more. I think we can encourage downvoting by showing the benefits of it and explaining what it means. However, I strongly agree with the top answer in my question. — Dharman 1 min ago
 
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