« first day (253 days earlier)      last day (1467 days later) » 

12:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
 
1:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Even if you had the reputation, the commentary you describe, would be flagged as “no longer needed”. Please don’t submit a comment indicating if an answer is correct. — Security Hound 51 secs ago
 
1:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
Out of curiosity, are these prices much higher than other job boards? I’m wondering if you’re arguing from a place of “the pricing is currently worse than other job boards” or “Stack Overflow should have better options for start-ups than other companies”. I’ve never done hiring so the numbers don’t mean much to me. All I know about hiring is that it’s expensive. — BSMP 1 min ago
 
 
1 hour later…
3:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@SamuelLiew I take it that SamuelLiew is willing to ban & undo over that particular type of review failure because otherwise people will not change that behaviour, but is willing to undo the ban, with the ban length merely being a function of previous review history. — philipxy 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andy
It's a concern for me. If my responses are being used to validate the bot's flags and I'm on a machine that doesn't have the user script (ie. work computer...I need a break once and a while), it's easier to just delete those comments that should be gone but aren't rude. On the other hand, if I'm on a personal machine, I have that user script so I will decline/delete at the same time. Both remove the comment, which is the ultimate goal, but one is sending a bad signal to the bot. — Andy ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
That's likely means it is audit... You payed attention... passed. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@RobertHarvey I take it that SamuelLiew is willing to ban & undo over that particular type of review failure because otherwise people will not change that behaviour, but is willing to undo the ban, with the ban length merely being a function of previous review/ban history. — philipxy 1 min ago
 
4:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@philipxy: The point is that the right solution is to reform the system, not punish people for not using a broken system correctly. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
 
4:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@RobertHarvey I was responding to your use of "baffled" as applied to bans with the immediate reason for the bans, I would agree that SO Inc's behaviour as ultimate cause is "baffling". — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@DmitryKuzmino - If you dislike low quality questions, why are you indicating they can be salvaged, by you by editing them. That’s basically what you indicated by selecting “requires edit”. If you are not willing or able to edit the question you can always skip the review.Security Hound 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
You already have enough rep to vote-up questions to "indicate which answers are most useful and appropriate". Use that instead of comments. Then if a particular answer did not work for you, you can post your own answer that worked or ask a new question. — Gino Mempin 41 secs ago
 
4:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@SecurityHound This is a double standard again. StackOverflow advises to be nice to new contributors, but most of the times newbies ask something totally stupid, for example to find a misprint in their code. On one hand this doesn't bring any value for other visitors because that is not likely that anyone else would make the same misprint. On the other hand even newbies should get a helpful response. — Dmitry Kuzminov 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aaron Shekey
Which browser and operating system are you using? Having trouble reproducing this bug. — Aaron Shekey ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
Returning back to my question: a newbie installed a Python module using pip, but Python itself doesn't see this module. The reason is quite obvious that he has multiple Python versions installed. First, I could help this newbie. Next, I could edit his question to make it more readable (and actually I've done that already). But the fact is that his question was closed as "off-topic" and I was banned for my "Requires Editing" vote. I feel that this is an example of ridiculous bias and double standards of moderators. — Dmitry Kuzminov 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
And again, personally I dislike poorly formatted questions like the on I've described above, but I would dislike even more closing this question as "off-topic" when it is definitely not. — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
 
5:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
It's still off-topic no matter how you edit it. See stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/25817834Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@DmitryKuzminov - So because they are new users they get special treatment. I certainly wasn’t given that latitude. — Security Hound 27 secs ago
 
5:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
@S.S.Anne Great! I have time to contribute substantially tomorrow, but you can get started if you want to. Just retag the questions that should remain on SO, close the ones that shouldn't, and try to get the closed questions that won't roomba deleted (e.g. those with accepted answers) — Erik A 13 secs ago
 
6:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
@Cody It's by design, but it's not an audit issue, the CV queue just doesn't have vote buttons. Sau, see meta.stackoverflow.com/q/291651 and meta.stackexchange.com/q/211641CertainPerformance 1 min ago
 
 
1 hour later…
7:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Please post your report in the megathread meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/395949/…Samuel Liew ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Edwin Pratt
Thanks @SamuelLiew will do :) — Edwin Pratt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Closing questions is not the opposite of being nice. There is nothing 'not nice' about voting to close a question. There is absolutely no conflict here. Please note that Stack Overflow is not a personalized help desk. This site functions more like Wikipedia, in that we are building a body of knowledge for the benefit of future viewers. If a question doesn't fit in our format, we don't allow it here. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
8:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
You can, if you think they'll complement the question, but make sure that the question itself also contains enough information for it to be answered without the link. — CertainPerformance 55 secs ago
 
8:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kos
Does this answer your question? How to watch a question?Kos 50 secs ago
 
8:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Imo, users should be checking the original question, any way. It could provide some context that the CV review can't. That said, the votes it has has no relevance. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 陈黎栋John
So how do you sovle this problem at last? — 陈黎栋John 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
@Trilarion: in some cases that would be: "does it answer the OP?" Based on the premise they don't want comments (such as 'what did you try', 'how does it fail', 'what is the exact error message'), they want an answer. Therefore a comments is "unfriendly" if it does not answer. — usr2564301 1 min ago
 
9:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Perhaps OP initially included the Javascript tag, and removed it during the grace period, after the Javascript question had been sent to your browser via the websocket, but before you clicked on the question to load it? That's my guess — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩
This is because it matched the word "and" perhaps? To search for both tags just use [javascript][arrays] no operator required — Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
@BrianTompsett-汤莱恩 Thought abut that, but if that were the case, wouldn't the question have shown up here? — CertainPerformance 11 secs ago
 
9:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
I'm glad we are beyond the "we cut the number of unfriendly comments in half" statement. If the underflagging is true, we don't really know how much the unfriendly comments have been reduced. The important feature to tout about would indeed have been the detection rate which went up dramatically. That surely made SO significantly more friendly, even though it's not clear by how much. It's also not that important, one can just try the maximum possible and leave it at that. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mohammad Usman
@BrianTompsett-汤莱恩 If I do so then I get questions which are tagged with arrays while addition of javascript doesn't make any difference. — Mohammad Usman 28 secs ago
 
9:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@CertainPerformance is correct - you have a custom filter on java, however if somebody posts a question tagged javascript java (which is VERY common) and an edit removes the javascript (again VERY common on account on happening so often) then for a little while the question would act as if it still had the javascript tag. — VLAZ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
@VLAZ stackoverflow.com/q/61136993 OP says he didn't add the Javascript tag. — CertainPerformance 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I can't find the question to verify this, though. It's probably deleted and I don't feel like doing a SEDE query. Can you provide a link? You can also check the edit history and see if an edit was made very early on to remove/change a tag. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
OK. I don't know why I couldn't find it - I tried the title and sorted by newest. I must have mistyped something. Anyway, you're right - there doesn't appear to be an edit on tags - I'd expect one to come from another user not the OP (that's what usually happens). Maybe it is a bug. Let me try it with a custom filter. — VLAZ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
It got one downvote about a year ago, then another today - long after the question was posted. That's not exactly a pattern. Question looks reasonable, might not have anything to do with the question at all - maybe someone didn't take kindly to you closing your question or something, and decided to look at your profile to find a low-score post of yours to downvote that doesn't cost rep, I'm pretty sure that sort of thing happens occasionally — CertainPerformance 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
OK, doesn't show in a custom filter now but that doesn't really prove anything. I'd still blame caching but I'm not sure what the reason for mus-categorising it in the first place is. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
10:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
Argh, please, no! Every time that staff or community members have tried to give examples of polite or impolite comments, swathes of the community have disagreed with the characterisations, often to the point of having directly opposite opinions (such that they found the "polite" version insulting and the "unfriendly" version respectful). Trying to codify what is polite is a fool's game, and having the staff do it will in effect mean encoding the linguistic norms common among wealthy US progressives as rules and punishing people of different backgrounds for their different habits of speech. — Mark Amery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
It's one thing to try to codify or automate detection of comments so bad that they should be deleted on sight, but it's quite another to try to codify the fuzzy and contentious area of what's respectful, and it's another yet again to ask an authority to issue such a codification by decree. We've gone over this ground again and again and it's caused nothing but conflict and bitterness; surely we should've learned by now? — Mark Amery 19 secs ago
 
10:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
My guess: you're involved heavily in curation, have only 1 question that scores negatively and I might be able to discredit using downvotes -> might be 100% revenge downvotes for closing, if you only have two of those I think you can count yourself lucky, and since they're single votes you can't do anything about it. — Erik A 7 secs ago
 
11:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Does this answer your question? How to react to downvotes?Heretic Monkey 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zixuan
The "go away" part is a bit mean to me. — zixuan 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yaroslav Nikitenko
@Servy this comment I read (otherwise I wouldn't ask), but didn't think that is a definite reference. — Yaroslav Nikitenko 1 min ago
 
12:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Kurkiewicz
@BSMP you can get an ad on indeed.com for 70 USD/week. The candidate quality is usually quite poor though. To be clear, the SO jobs 2500 GBP deal is for 6 months for 1 job slot. You can re-use the job slot as you close off the positions (e.g. you can look for a UX engineer for a month, close the position, and move on to hire a back-end engineer, etc... as long as you have one active job ad at the time). I can see how this works for a large company. In a small startup you only want to fill in one position in 6 months – something I understand you could do in the past for ~400 GBP. — Adam Kurkiewicz 1 min ago
 
12:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
In this case, the cultural influence on comment friendliness is solely determined by the moderators because the "ground truth" is just what they decided, whatever it was. I guess, moderators coming from all over the world, it's effectively a mixture of the depicted extremes. You can be somewhat direct, but only up to a certain threshold. To summarize: a friendly comment is what moderators deem to be a friendly comment. The culture applied to the decision is the effective moderation culture, whatever it is. — Trilarion 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@DaveKielpinski Surely there are unfriendly comments, but I agree with that they aren't the only issue by far. Question quality doesn't seem to get comparable attention, one could say. — Trilarion 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Kurkiewicz
Thank you @MSalters. I obviously agree that startups have a high failure rate. And it's an interesting point about SO vetting the companies – my understanding is that currently vetting is actually very lightweight and in most circumstances it will be down to the candidate to do due diligence on the company. — Adam Kurkiewicz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Kurkiewicz
Putting myself in the shoes of a programmer looking at job ads on SO – I think an ad for an employee #1 in a company working on a very new and exciting problem, which comes with a substantial share package would catch my interest much more than an offer to work in a large, established software company. As it stands, these type of ads just don't have a chance to appear on the site, due to a prohibitively expensive deal. — Adam Kurkiewicz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Smith
I've occasionally got down votes on very old questions shortly after closing questions or downvoting with a comment. Questions are easy revenge targets as downvotes are free — Martin Smith 41 secs ago
 
12:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@DaveKielpinski Just because we're talking about comments today doesn't mean we haven't also talked about question asking. — Jason Punyon ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matt
I appreciate Samuel Liew reviewing and undoing the ban, and wanted to add that this ban occurred one day after I was able to review and triage. — Matt 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@DaveKielpinski Or that we don't have direct plans for using the tech we've developed here to make question asking even better. — Jason Punyon ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kayaman
Thank you! The site feels unfriendlier already. Really love the dualism of the experienced answerer, where we're both valuable as free workers providing answers to the masses who bring in the ad money for the shareholders, but at the same time we need to be kept in control, as we can't be trusted to behave in the way the corporate wants. If we were paid employees it would be easier, but as volunteers we can't even be threatened properly. Take away our brownie points or winter hats? Darn it's hard to do business! — Kayaman 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason FB
If you continue to "Close" and "Moderate" my comments off this website I will make this KNOWN— I have screenshots and I will make sure the internet is aware of the bullying I am being victimized to on this forum. — Jason FB 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
happens occasionally? i would guess a lot. — nbk 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kayaman
Sounds cool! Let's all be friendly to each other! — Kayaman 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason FB
I advocate for truth and I advocate for justice and I advocate for what is right and I will not be silenced! Not here not anywhere! — Jason FB 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@Kayaman: I'm not gonna be harangued this morning. Your comments aren't being deleted by the robot, they're being deleted by me. — Jason Punyon ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
Our labels are binary, but the model outputs a probability which we then threshold. From the last graph here you can see the percentage of flags that were accepted conditioned on score (above the threshold) for the past two models. Even 100's are only accepted 90% of the time, I don't think we're at the point where the best usage of limited moderator resources is working on the bubble. — Jason Punyon ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user56reinstatemonica8
@MarkAmery I agree but it's got to be better to get those cultural clashes out in the open under discussion, than have them as unspoken, unwritten rules that non-US users will constantly hit. Obviously the ideal would be an FAQ / blog that acknowledges different norms and explains that if, for example, you're American and feel something is rudely blunt, or you're German and feel it is patronisingly gentle, they might just have different norms to you... — user56reinstatemonica8 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PiRocks
Whilst I agree with the first sentence, nobody is trying to censor you and I'm not sure what you mean by bullying on this forum. — PiRocks 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
@Trilarion then is there any guidance provided to moderators on what to do in culturally diverse contexts? E.g. "If you are a moderator from Culture A and are handling a flag raised by a member of Culture B on a comment posted by a member of Culture C that was directed at a member of Culture D, you should adjudicate offensiveness according to Culture D standards and no other standard." — Robert Columbia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@Cody (and Andy but I can only notify one of you): I'm gonna open up the discussion on decline and delete today. — Jason Punyon ♦ 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason FB
fine the censoring is in my head fine fine fine — Jason FB 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
Jason, the firs sentence is merely a comment and warrants no answer. The rest of this answer is well, more a angry rant then an answer. So there is no real value in keeping it around. We welcome any valuable contribution, but unfortunately the way this is written it is not such a thing. — Luuklag 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@MarkAmery At least we'll have an idea of what they see as "polite". Maybe we could word our comments so they don't seem impolite, or at least don't trigger the bot. — S.S. Anne 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
I don't know, only moderators will be able to answer that. I guess that in doubt a reasonable guidance could be to be as nice as possible, i.e. rather err on the side of indirectness than directness. On the other side there might be a programmer sub-culture which is a bit more direct than how the mean culture is. The current code of conduct and some Q&A with further explanations for example regarding pronoun usage, may help the moderators too. — Trilarion 1 min ago
 
1:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TRiG
There's also the fact that the careful circumlocution which some cultures require for politeness is often impenetrable to speakers of English as a second language, and some level of directness might be required for them to understand what you're saying. (And the fact that Americans perceive themselves as very direct, but actually aren't, so when they meet someone who actually is direct they're taken aback.) — TRiG 1 min ago
 
1:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Stewart
So, how do you figure out which review caused the ban? — Mark Stewart 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by omnidan
@MarkStewart you have to manually go to https://stackoverflow.com/review, there is no way to access it directly from the interface as far as I know... — omnidan 1 min ago
 
 
1 hour later…
3:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MSalters
@JasonPunyon: In the setup of humans judging AI results, it can be useful to distinguish 3 outcomes: Right, Wrong, Agree to disagree. In a sense that's anthropomorphizing the AI, but the underlying reason is that reality isn't that black and white, and some comments would be a much greater loss if rejected by the AI than others. A comment that's not unfriendly but just unhelpful? Don't worry if the AI rejects it for the wrong reasons. — MSalters 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jack Howard
Extra points for the lighthouse screenshot — Jack Howard 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DDriggs00
@AaronShekey I am using Firefox 75.0 on Kubuntu 18.04 — DDriggs00 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MSalters
@AdamKurkiewicz: I can see where you're coming from; I'm sort of employee #2.1 on a re-startup. The problem you might be facing is that you're not actually looking for an employee. You're looking for a another founder. Those are notoriously hard to find. "Great business ideas" are rather common, and for a software developer it is reasonable to apply a very crude filter: truly great ideas get funding. — MSalters 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
That was the original intent, but unfortunately the (by design) ego-driven nature of Stack Overflow prevents collaborative editing in most cases (reducing it to (still valuable) copy editing). — Peter Mortensen 58 secs ago
 
3:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by livingtech
Maybe this needs its own question, but what if a question is closed for another reason, say "needs more information", but it's actually a duplicate. As someone with only 3000 rep, I don't see a way to change the type of closure. — livingtech 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Catija: And your own YouTube videos... (upvote or downvote) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
4:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave Kielpinski
@JasonPunyon okey doke, but this volunteer currently sees significant downside and no upside to commenting / answering / reviewing overall. the influx of new users with poor questions means that it takes a lot more work to answer and new users don't upvote or accept answers. just one person's opinion — Dave Kielpinski 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stand alone
Gosh, why it's so deep in the settings? On YouTube you just tap on profile icon and here it is: dark switcher. — stand alone 53 secs ago
 
4:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
If you want me to edit in text from the linked articles, I can do so on request, but I didn't want to make it too long to start with. — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
 
4:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
In this post they said that switching the syntax highlighting library is not suitable because it adds an additional 5kb. Not sure what they will say about additional 18-55kb. — BDL 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@BDL That was four years ago. — Andrew Morton 26 secs ago
 
5:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
OK, some people don't like the idea, or perhaps SO testing it. Why? — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@BDL Also, in Technical site integration observational experiment live on Stack Overflow, they say they are no longer averse to adding some KB to the site. — Andrew Morton 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Kurkiewicz
@SublymeRick -- for an extended discussion of this topic please see my question on why SO is inaccessible to small startups: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/396467/…Adam Kurkiewicz 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
One major argument in favor is that it enables an alternative to hotlinking to mathjax services with transparent backgrounds and black text. Enabling it would make it easier to integrate math(/-like) text without breaking accessibility. Not sure how it is with text to speech though. — Zoe 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Kurkiewicz
Thank you for this perspective @MSalters. I didn't quite specify that, but we are offering a fair salary in addition to the above listed bonuses. Our position is open to candidates in the Boston area and we are prepared to pay $60k-$90k USD per annum + share package to a capable data visualisation engineer who'd like to join the team! — Adam Kurkiewicz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Sure @Zoe, but I genuinely question why one would need this at all. I haven't had a satisfying answer to that yet. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
I'd have accepted vast, maybe vast, vast, but narrowing it down to vast, vast, vast, vast, vast ignores its utility for those times when it's simpler to write... oh! I can't! — Andrew Morton 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
There are somethimes computer graphics questions where some Math support would be nice. But I guess from my 500+ answers in that area maybe 10-20 would have profited from that. — BDL 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Well, this (10k) asked about the issue. If you look it up, there's quite a few uses of it. There's quite a few legitimate uses for it. Here's one example that combines math and code. — Zoe 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@Zoe Please feel free to edit the question and make it a community one if you feel the aim is just - you are much better at this than I am. — Andrew Morton 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@AndrewMorton FYI you can't make a question Community Wiki after posting it; you certainly can't make someone else's question Community Wiki via an edit... if that's what you meant. — TylerH 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@TylerH Oh bother! Zoe, you can do anything you like to the question and if it comes out the way I intended then you can have all the unicorns, and if it carries on going wrong then it is all my fault. — Andrew Morton 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
Why would any website with text beyond plain not have MathJax? It's like running hot water for showing formulae you wish to use in a computer program. — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@AndrewMorton I don't quite understand that analogy but I would say only websites that need to display Math formulas would need a library for doing so. Stack Overflow is for questions about programming, not for questions about Math. Ergo, Stack Overflow shouldn't need MathJax. Perhaps if you edited the question to include some examples of good Stack Overflow questions that suffer from a lack of MathJax, the value of including it might be more clear to people. — TylerH 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Kurkiewicz
I actually really like this idea of approaching employee #1 as somebody in-between a founder and a regular employee. On one hand, they earn a salary, a little less than regular employees 5-10 years down the line. On the other hand, they receive a competitive share package, not as much as the founders, but enough to offset the reduction in pay when compared with working as a regular employee. — Adam Kurkiewicz 1 min ago
 
6:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@TylerH Isn't a lot of computer programing concerned with mathematical equations? Yes, perhaps the λs and so on should have been reduced to variable names before presentation on SO, but surely in many cases it would be better to present the problem in the usual terms of art, like F for force, m for mass, and a for acceleration? — Andrew Morton 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@AndrewMorton Computer programming within the scope of Stack Overflow is what can be represented in a programming language, not in terms of classical mathematics. Programming languages are written in, typically, English text with the capabilities of what can be shown directly via keyboard keys. There is no programming language I'm aware of that supports notation for limits, vectors, integrals, etc. directly in the code. — TylerH 47 secs ago
 
6:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@AndrewMorton Aight, I can try. Feel free to roll back or hit me with a newspaper if it doesn't make sense :') — Zoe 1 min ago
 
7:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
If you don't have the time to do the edits right now you could always follow it or favorite it and then come back and do them later. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kenster
@RobertLongson That probably wouldn't work. I'd look at my favorite list six months later and wonder what that post is doing in there. — Kenster 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
32 days, sounds like you already completed a 16 day ban, which didn't help apparently. — Luuklag 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@Zoe You are welcome my other bottle of Ricacciare Barbera d' Asti 2017 if you're round the corner from CM20 and you can make an iota more sense than me. I think I'm on another losing streak here, as is my tradition :) — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
 
7:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@TylerH Ah, yes, a bit ambiguous on my part. By "running hot water" I meant something marvelous, as in university student accommodation with running hot water, instead of something that had to be fired up before a bath. Oh, and APL, or if that doesn't work, Mathematica (q.v.). ICBW. — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Right @AndrewMorton - I think I've had enough of this side conversation happening in my global inbox. If you don't mind, could you find a Stack Overflow chat room to discuss this more at length? — Makoto 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"This library is cool and small" does not sound like a good enough reason to implement. None of the linked questions had good explanation of why this feature is useful. Also consider impact on edit reviews when edit the post to highlight that. — Alexei Levenkov 11 secs ago
 
8:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by billoverton
Well if I did, I never saw it. Up til now I had only been doing a few reviews every once in a while. So there could be another discussion on how it's possible I was banned but didn't know it (which obviously doesn't help either). But that aside, now that I know and am better educated, I'd like to further contribute to the community by helping with reviews. I think my question and answer record shows that I know how to write good questions, I just needed to be better educated on how to use the review tags. — billoverton 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@Makoto I am not responsible for your global inbox. Your global inbox is your choice. If you can get my email address, you're welcome to call :) — Andrew Morton 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
The ban message shows excellent exanples for further reading: For more information, see Getting banned from Triage reviews and How does the Triage queue work?Luuklag 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
And also see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/394498/… which has been featured in the sidebar for over a month now. — Luuklag 1 min ago
 
8:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Added some stuff. Hopefully, it makes sense :') — Zoe 43 secs ago
 
8:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Because the person didn't add their twitter profile? The icons don't show up if a profile hasn't been added. Look at your own profile for an instance: you don't have a twitter logo because you haven't added a twitter account. You also don't have a location, GH, or link icon, because you haven't added any of them — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by drac_o
@Zoe see this. countless such profiles if not mine and yours — drac_o 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChiefTwoPencils
Sorry but it seems like you're caught in a circular reference on yourself. Your post you linked to is about breaking SO up. That was ill-received but now you're suggesting the same thing here and it's still ill-received but you suggest that these are two examples of how SO is hostile. Could it be that you're idea just isn't what the community wants? — ChiefTwoPencils 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Only one of those examples added by Zoe seems to be a good question that also needs to show mathjax'd output: stackoverflow.com/questions/61051074/… The rest don't need to show mathjax or are not good questions for this site. This one that is a good example does fine without mathjax as well by using an image because it's displaying rendered output anyway. — TylerH 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
No repro, Chrome OS 80 — S.S. Anne 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChiefTwoPencils
Also, you make some claims that should be substantiated. 1) "The majority of the MSO community won't ever like this way, but they do not represent the SO." No? If that's true whose fault is it? If the "real" community that does represent SO wanted to engage on this level, they could. 2) "...the hundreds of thousands of users who are already lost due to their unwelcomingness [sic]." Please link to data backing up the "hundreds of thousands" claim. — ChiefTwoPencils 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
@Zoe Oh that makes so much sense, thank you for the clarity. Love is given :) — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Do you have an adblocker installed? Try disabling it and see if that fixes the issue — S.S. Anne 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@drac_o Adblockers usually block social media icons, because they contain tracking. — S.S. Anne 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by billoverton
I made this post based on recommendations from the "Getting banned from Triage reviews" post. That post and a few others I linked to were the source of my education. My apologies for not seeing the sidebar article. This was literally my first time on stackoverflow META and I only made my way here from the link on the banned message. — billoverton 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by drac_o
@S.S.Anne yeah, adblock was the culprit! so is this probably a bug, adblock conflicting with so? — drac_o 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by billoverton
My point still remains that a 32 day ban is excessive for someone who 1) never received notification or otherwise noticed he was banned, 2) now better understands the triage process, and 3) has a great track record on SO and wants to continue to contribute to the community. So to whoever has such power, I am still requesting an early lift to my ban. — billoverton 48 secs ago
 
9:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@ChiefTwoPencils Yes, "the community" does not like it (group of avid, antagonist MSO users having a high rep, but near-zero SO representation), despite that this is the right way. So, I encouraged to company to do this, even in the downwind. That you can disagree but imho you can't say that it is not logical. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChiefTwoPencils
Again, you're making claims without evidence. "(group of avid, antagonist MSO users having a high rep, but near-zero SO representation" It seems you're convinced "this is the right way" despite having 0 agreeing with you so why is it "right?" IMHO, I can say it's not logical. While it may please you in some way, it isn't logical for the way the site works as has been pointed out in some of your posts. — ChiefTwoPencils 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@ChiefTwoPencils Your second question leads further. I don't believe that it would be the fault of induvidual users. It is the result of a social mechanism (I suggest to google for articles about the typical behavior of aging internet communities). However, most of the real SO community won't ever participate on the MSO: most of them simply have no urge, and the majority of the rest was long expelled by your opinion terror. So, they are here silent. But the company needs them, at least if it wants to preserve its role in the top100 global sites of the internet. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@ChiefTwoPencils You are missing an important fact. You believe I am interested in to provide convincing stats for you. Fact is that I am not. It is clearly visible, that anything what I would say, you would reject it. Our current context clearly shows that you are perfectly in-convincible and it is practically not important, what do I say and show. You believe I need to "prove my statements", fact is that everybody knows that these are true, and I have no reason to invest effort to create stats what you will reject and mis-interpret. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@ChiefTwoPencils Instead of wasting efforts into needless comment, the real "game" is this: I wrote this post, you vote it down, and you vote it to be deleted. With the second, you violate the rules of the SE (disagreement is not a valid reason for deletion), but you can do that (see again: "opinion terror"). I will flag the deleted post for mod intervention because power misuse has happened. The mods will decline the flag, because they side with you. Doing that, they also create a remark until the ethernity, that they intentionally overlooked power misuse. End (until the next iteration). — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChiefTwoPencils
You have a boatload of preconceived notions about people and the world. You don't know me and therefore cannot claim to know what I will/won't do. But I'm glad you made it clear you're just saying stuff without any desire to add credibility to your claims. I won't bother reading the rest of your last two comments. Have a nice day; good luck. — ChiefTwoPencils 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@ChiefTwoPencils I don't know you, but I did this chat hundred times already in the last many years, and some patterns were evolved, how are you communicating. You did not show anything what would make me to believe that you are different. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
9:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Servy
@YaroslavNikitenko If you don't want to believe me then that's your choice. You have my answer, what you want to do with it is up to yo. — Servy 44 secs ago
 
10:06 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The reason this suspension is longer is so you had the opportunity to actually see the message. As you clearly point out, the shorter suspension is easily missed if one is not a frequent reviewer; in which case it serves no purpose at all. — yivi 1 min ago
 
10:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Stewart
Well, if the WCAG standards are used to begin with, many of these bug reports would not be happening; IE: what may look fine to one programmer may be hard to read for another programmer with a different monitor, etc. etc... — Mark Stewart 1 min ago
 

« first day (253 days earlier)      last day (1467 days later) »