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12:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@S.S.Anne lest's just delete that part of comments as completely unrelated to this post... I'm sorry for commenting on my vote and will try to not do so in the future... (And I obviously disagree with both "ignore votes" and "vote on everything as FR" stances... but I'm getting into more ban territory with continuing flame on "votes on meta" off-topic in comments) — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: if you are editing/looking at questions in this tag please make sure not to comment like "answers to this are not allowed by competition rules" as cheating by OP is not concern on SO. Indeed competition is free to file "DMCA takedown" request... but answering can't be blocked by external rules. — Alexei Levenkov 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Blastfurnace
"favorite" should be renamed "bookmark" because that's how I use it. — Blastfurnace 37 secs ago
 
12:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yonlif
@SamuelLiew I didn't notice, thanks. Are you capable of locking the editing as well for any amount of time? If so why don't just make it the default for all moderators? — Yonlif 53 secs ago
 
12:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Sonic corrected the FAQ; he had misinterpreted material describing delete vote differences on your own posts vs other posts. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@Blastfurnace I believe that that’s ready implemented, and will roll out soon; it’s in the pipeline of changes now that “following” has been implemented. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Why should “favourite” mean “worthy of an upvote”? Some of my favourite questions are those that are terrible examples, but I find them helpful in a “this is what happens when you don’t listen to your elders and betters” sort of way. Favourite != good quality. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Code Review has very different goals and so has different tags. Don’t compare CR tag use with SO tag use. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@S.S.Anne we don’t know how long the answer is going to be current. Locking it for a week would easily be too short. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
You could edit the top revision of the post (via the post history page), that discards pending suggested edits. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
This is definitely a duplicate because that post exists specifically to collect bug reports and other feedback. Please check that this hasn’t already been reported there then post it as an answer. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 37 secs ago
 
1:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dawood ibn Kareem
Yeah, the blue is awful. I think I'd prefer a slightly yellow-tinged off-white. Very slightly brighter than the pale grey of the normal text, and just yellowish enough to be clearly identifiable as something different. — Dawood ibn Kareem 33 secs ago
 
 
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3:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
@SamuelLiew Actually (though I can't comment on your answer, for obvious reasons) a whole millennium is 365242.5 days. :) — Adrian Mole 44 secs ago
 
 
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5:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"There are multiple ways to answer it. I am just giving you insight what I am looking for but since I am asking, there might be a lot more than what I am looking for." - you seem to be arguing that it should be "opinion based" or "too broad" instead of duplicate... In any case some edit would go long way - i.e. if you'd explained why none of information in the duplicate is applicable to your "is comma separated values better" sub-question. — Alexei Levenkov 50 secs ago
 
5:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hammad Khan
The duplicate really does not answer my question, where as I asked for implementation while the dupicate is saying why CSV implementation is bad idea___ Disappointed I implemented the solution as was advised in the comments and I saw the problems first hand___I also discussed with a friend who advised me how to implement__all that can be answered with entire code that I have written.___I may improve question itself as well but just in the middle of so many things right now — Hammad Khan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gman
Just add a single line @import 'url/to/your/dark/css'; in your snippet. Example: jsfiddle.net/greggman/os3pqyavgman 1 min ago
 
6:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@AdamLear Possibly related: Error in tag badges. — user4642212 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mat
 
6:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrick Roberts
@gman that would match the user's system theme, not the preference they've chosen on Stack Overflow. — Patrick Roberts 1 min ago
 
6:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gman
True. Ultimately though I think it would be unsafe to add such an option. Just look at all the bugs on S.O. I've converted 3 sites to dark mode. It took months to find all the bugs and come up with solutions. They are not all easy especially for images that don't look good over dark background and canvas drawing that need different colors and therefore have to programatically look up the mode and set colors. I think keeping snippet results the default white is best. Giving the option just adds more places for more bugs and broken snippets. Just my personal opinion. — gman 1 min ago
 
 
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7:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Read the linked duplicate and fix these deleted questions, score <= 0: (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Your latest question isn't that great either : stackoverflow.com/questions/60921782/…Samuel Liew ♦ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
issues with follow are being collected as answers to this question. Check if this is already reported and if not report it there. — Robert Longson 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by furcifer
Thanks @SamuelLiew I didn't know how to access the deleted questions. Most of them were asked by me 3-4 years earlier so I didn't even remember. I'm undeleting all those. — furcifer 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
I bet this has a very similar root cause as the problem described here - open your browser console, I bet it shows an error in the updateFollowUI function — CertainPerformance just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user85421
I wonder why we did not get any warning before being banned, even no message after being banned - you had to search what is the review page link to see that you are banned - the review icon just had the red dot indication (reviews waiting or so) but a (IMO) rude message (nothing for you). What happened to "If we think you are reachable, and the behavior is one that we feel can change, we will try to warn you via email first when there are behavior problems — so that we can address them before they become deeper problems."? — user85421 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
@user85421: I completely agree that the interface here is really poor. On my first ban, it took me a while to discover the /review page and understand that I had indeed been banned, and why. Up to that point, it just seemed like a bug with the notifications. It makes me wonder how many people get banned and never even realize it. If the goal of the bans is to teach reviewers how to be better reviewers, it doesn’t seem effective if they aren’t being notified of what happened. — Jeremy Caney 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
Thanks @CertainPerformance this indeed seems to be the same issue. Although the error I am getting is a bit different, there is one on the page. The symptoms are similar and indeed I followed a deleted answer so that must be it. I guess I will delete this then, and upvoting the answer you linked is enough? Or should I comment that I faced the same exact issue? — Tomerikoo 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
Thanks @RobertLongson I wasn't aware of that thread — Tomerikoo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@MartijnPieters: Webster dictionary definition of favorite: "one that is treated or regarded with special favor or liking." Now, you could say "I like it because it's so bad". But - most users interpret a question being marked favorite as being indicated as exceptionally good or useful. The badges regarding favorites also lend themselves to this interpretation. — einpoklum 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Not yet, if your error is not the exact same, it may have a different cause - can you post the error message you receive? — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@SecurityHound Does a deleted post with a positive score count towards a ban? Or is it only the ones with negative score? — Scratte 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
@user85421: FWIW: There’s actually a feature request for making notifications more obvious to users from a couple of years ago. Since it sounds like this is also a concern to you, consider upvoting it. — Jeremy Caney just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
@CertainPerformance posted. As I said this is my first post on meta, so not sure the best way to go forward. I would like to help resolve the issue, so let me know if I should leave this post, delete it or maybe post it as an answer to the post Robert and you linked — Tomerikoo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by hanie
@SecurityHound how can I know more about this ban to submit answer or question? — hanie 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user85421
almost 3 years ago! Anyway it is not a concern for me any more - I decided to stop reviewing - obviously not good at it. — user85421 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
A useful clarification on this from @taryn on the main thread is that this gets cut in half every 30 days of good behavior: “If it's been more than 30 days since your last ban, and your last ban was 30 days, then the next ban is 15 days. And it continues the same way. If you don't get banned again for 30+ days, then your next ban would be cut in half. So eventually you could work back down to 2 days.” — Jeremy Caney 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Your error message looks to be the same as the one in the linked bug report - .replace is being called on undefined. But you don't have 10k reputation, so you can't see deleted posts. I bet the problem is that the deleted post exists in the votesCast array, but since the voting container for the deleted post isn't visible to those with less than 10k rep, the element isn't found, so for the same reason as when question "Follow" buttons aren't found, an error is thrown. — CertainPerformance 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@einpoklum It's unfortunate that the feature is called "favorite". It should be called "bookmark" instead. That's how I used it to come back to posts I downvoted or commented upon to see later if they were improved. Since it's now possible to "follow" a post I'll probably use that instead. — Modus Tollens 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
@CertainPerformance So all in all is the same cause... Only now I noticed that your link is for your own post. So should I delete this post or maybe link it in a comment to yours? — Tomerikoo 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
For starters, you could try writing a feature request with less use of expressions like "travesty", or "the only reasonable ...". That could help the post get better reception. Even then, I don't see a lot of value on the request. I'm fine with having less than maximal contrast. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Yep, that was it, I found an answer and followed it, the followed answer was indeed included in the votesCast array despite not being visible to <10k account, resulting in the error. I'll edit this into my answer on MSO. Feel free to leave the post here, at least for now, it's useful for devs to know that more than one person can reproduce a problem. — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
@user85421: I’ve come a similar conclusion with regard to the Triage queue, at least. It’s really clear that I’m just not adding much value there. Hopefully I can help carry the load in some other way. I still really enjoy First Posts because it’s a great opportunity to welcome new users to the community, praise the occasional exceptional answer, and help politely mentor the rest on how to write better posts—even if you’re still flagging to close them. Otherwise, it’s too easy for new members to be discouraged from participating, and quite possibly even programming. — Jeremy Caney 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@ModusTollens: But it were called "bookmarked", it wouldn't make sense to show people how many other users have bookmarked that question. And then I wouldn't wonder about it. And also, there would be no "stellar question" badges. — einpoklum 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@einpoklum I know. It was the only thing we had to bookmark things, so I (and others) used it for that. Things may change now with the "follow" option. — Modus Tollens 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Caney
Speaking for myself, I really quite like the look of the dark mode, and don’t usually have much trouble reading on it. I do occasionally have to bump up the brightness on my device, however, if I’m reading at night with my brightness turned all the way down (as I often do). I also have really good eye sight, though; I do know some members will need maximum contrast to ensure readability. (And this the reason e.g. operating systems offer high-contrast themes as an accessibility feature.) — Jeremy Caney 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by double-beep
This has already been reported. — double-beep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@HovercraftFullOfEels: But you must understand that the vast majority of users are "stuck on semantics" this way. The see "favorite" and stars, and think that's what it means. So it's somewhat misleading to them. Or, to use a recently popular term, it is (cue dramatic music) not welcoming. — einpoklum 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@einpoklum Why not post a feature request to change it then? There already might exist one, no time to investigate right now. — Modus Tollens 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@einpoklum This is a good resource for beginners as well: meta.stackexchange.com/a/53580/686592 It explains that voting is unrelated and what §favorite question" means. — Modus Tollens 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sam
@JeremyCaney That is another weird modern invention. If the fonts are too small because the screen resolution is way too high, then the settings are to be found under "accessibility". How odd! The issue with dark mode is also an issue of usability. Sure, dark grey looks much more cool, but those choosing dark grey haven't asked those who have been using dark background for years what they determined does and doesn't work. — Sam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The post reads very much like "I'm the only person who knows how to do dark themes right. All those designers have no clue what they do". I don't think that a post like this will get you what you want or is perceived well. — BDL 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
On a content level: I really like darkgray more than black because it turns my screen a bit less in a mirror than pure black. — BDL 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Sam, you are veering rapidly into personal attacks. That last comment is very poorly thought. — yivi 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sam
@BDL You strike me as someone who really prefers a light background, but who puts a dark background to show off how cool they are. That is precisely my point. I've seen over the years many who genuinely like a dark background (because they use a dark background—in Emacs, particularly—all the time). Not one of them uses anything other than #000. — Sam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sam
@yivi I plead self-defense in counter-attacking a personal attack! — Sam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amjad Hussain Syed
thanks @amlarraz it works. — Amjad Hussain Syed 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Sam, BDLs comment is addressing your post, giving you feedback so you can improve it. Your comment, in the other hand, is making unsubstantiated remarks on BDLs persona and experience. — yivi 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sam
@yivi I couldn't sleep half the night (huge meal after a long bike ride). Maybe trying to sleep again will help me to see your point. — Sam 1 min ago
 
9:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
So, if you're asking for the ability to choose #000, then why don't you just apply the CSS for yourself? — Makyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
While you might have had a concept worth considering here, the negative, derogatory and condescending tone you've used in your post and comments completely overshadows anything that you're trying to say here. — Makyen 6 secs ago
 
10:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@ModusTollens: That question has been viewed 36,000 times. Let's be generous and say that only half the views are by regular meta users, and that newbie users only ever viewed it once or never. So, 15,000 out of... what, 2 million people or so, have seen it :-( — einpoklum 1 min ago
 
10:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by O. Jones
Right. Ban me from reviewing for a month for an honest mistake? Don't bother lifting my ban, I won't waste any more time reviewing. Now both staff and moderators are throwing their weight around. Nothing lasts forever. I wonder if Stack Exchange has jumped the shark? You may want to think through how your (otherwise excellent) "be nice" policy applies to long-time volunteers. — O. Jones 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by brightbyte
I have changed my email address in the sessings long ago. It's showing the correct email (fastmail). ButI'm still getting mail to the old address (gmail), not the new. The old one seems to be stuck in the system somehow. It's odd. — brightbyte 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@einpoklum Well, that link was the first entry that popped up when I googled for it, so either users don't search or they don't care a lot... — Modus Tollens 1 min ago
 
11:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@ModusTollens: A large majority of users don't voluntarily visit meta.SO at all; and even from those who do, most don't come across that page. I haven't, for example. I'm saying that the discrepancy between perception by most users and use by a few power users is porblematic. — einpoklum 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@einpoklum I said I searched on Google, not meta. Look, the discussion here is solving nothing, you got your answer. If you want to change it, do a constructive feature request. But as I see it the problem will solve itself now that the "follow" feature exists. Bye! — Modus Tollens 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Rotteveel
Another example: stackoverflow.com/questions/61033457/… This seems to happen if the OP accepts the suggested duplicate. — Mark Rotteveel 1 min ago
 
11:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That looks like the "mobile site". I'm not sure that's getting much support love these days, and it's likely to be abandoned at some point. Why don't you use the responsive view (scroll down to the bottom and click on "full-site"). — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
@yivi just got to know about that functionality now but I like to use the 'mobile site' style (only requires me to use Desktop mode for asking / answering questions). — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
What I mean, is that I'm not sure feature-requests that affect the "mobile site" are going to get much traction, when the efforts are currently poured on the responsive version that already is much better than the "mobile" view. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That question has already been seen 20k times. What makes you think it need additional promotion? You can always bounty the question, that would promote the answer as well. It's been done in the past. See this or this, for example. — yivi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Plenty of dark theme UIs do not use #000 exclusively. You want depth in a UI, things that feel “behind” or “in front” and darker and lighter shades give you that. See twitter.com/steveschoger/status/1151160261170126850. Using #000 as the background for the whole page would remove any possibility of proper depth use. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
Oh... Then I have to adapt to the new way? — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nicael
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Your Common Sense
I thought I made myself clear that it is not the number of views per se is my concern. A pity, I failed completely. Looks like people are taking my question from the same gamification standpoint... — Your Common Sense 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I think it would be for the better, yes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see much value in the company maintaining a mobile view, when the new design is already a better answer to mobile needs. — yivi 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Your Common Sense
And no, the last thing I want it to ruin this post by offering the bounty, that will attract hordes of "reputation"-greedy wannabees with hasty, incompetent and harmful answers. I've seen it too much times already. — Your Common Sense 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@einpoklum now you are bringing back your own subjective interpretation again. Now, good questions are more likely to be favourited (bookmarked) as well, so there is some correlation, which is why there are badges for this. But that still doesn’t explain why you expect that favouriting equates upvoting. Those two things are entirely separate concepts. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I think that the problem is that you only mention your main concern as the last line of your question here, which is an orthogonal concern with the rest of the post. The last line could be the title of the question, and most of the text could be removed, in my opinion. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
... or it could motivate someone to write an even better answer. — Zoe 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The responsive version supports "dark mode". The mobile version does not. — yivi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
The "full-site" forces too much my eyes with all the white. Do you know if I can make the colours darker also in this new version? (If yes, how?) — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
The mobile version was fine as it was. I'm speaking of the new version. Know about dark-mode available by Stack but not being able to find how to activate it only for mobile. — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Dark mode is activated by profile, not by device. If you enable it in your profile, when you access the responsive version on your mobile device you'll get the dark mode enabled. — yivi 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Indeed, moderators regularly handle flags that state a question should be deleted because it concerns an active contest. We always decline such flags because moderators are not here to police the rules of a completely different entity. We are not going to verify if the claim is true or if the competition is really still active or if there are possible exceptions and nuances to the rules that might actually permit the question to be posted anyway. Competition rules are treated the same as licensing terms and copyright violation claims, in that respect. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Honestly, the reason I downvoted this is because you focus way more on how incompetent you believe other people to be, and not your actual question. This entire thing could do with a significant rewrite, and a large amount of the text should be dropped entirely. You're not making a good case for this... whatever you're trying to argue for at all. — Zoe 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
Is it my impression or in the profile, activity, etc. works as Desktop mode? — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Your Common Sense
@Zoe Just likeI said, it never worked before. Or, rather, it worked exactly the opposite. Why it should work the other way this time? — Your Common Sense 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Bounties have on several occasions brought out good, or better answers. There's always going to be people who answer anything just to get a bit of rep, but that's pretty much the case with any new question nowadays. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Your Common Sense
How can I forget, a new question on Meta is met by people who has nothing to do with the main site but just spend their time judging people asking questions in Meta. — Your Common Sense 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
SHUT UP! Go to chat if you're going to argue. Don't wake me up at 5 in the morning! — S.S. Anne 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by poirot
Oh. This sucks a bit. :( Thank you. — poirot 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@MartijnPieters But that's not what the question is about. The tag is a meta-tag and provides no value to the question. — S.S. Anne 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I am personally quite offended by that. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
I'm just "driving by" and I see this, and think did I or anyone else here ask you to post this question? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@S.S.Anne I was not implying anything about the tag. I was following up on Alexei’s comment. It’s context. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Who is the one being judgemental here? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Where is the code that causes the problem? How can the question be answered without it? Bans are always across all queues to prevent you from continuing to cause havok elsewhere. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The suspension is two week long so you have an opportunity to see it. If it were shorter, and you didn't attempt to review until the suspension lapsed, you would never see the the suspension message and would never be made aware of what you did wrong and what you could do better in the future. If you understand that "requires editing" was the wrong choice there, when a mod sees your post they may lift the review-suspension. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
See this question (currently featured) to read about efforts to improve/fix Triage. — yivi 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
there wasn't hence i hit the wrong button it should have been unsaleable! and @yivi that makes sense then. Alas the 'requires editing' button is badly labelled and imho should be removed or renamed to something else. — user3788685 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
Ohh interesting.. and it shares some of my exact thoughts! I actually learnt a long time ago that 'requires editing' send its off to the H&I queue which is actually useless when most of the time people are appearing to click that link when they feel the post required editing by the OP to add details etc. In fact I'd made sure to keep away from the button. My trips to the H&I queue also showed the other side of the problem so that made me acutely aware what is wasn't for! — user3788685 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
something like 'Requires Editing by OP' would be a useful button with a limit set so that if the OP doesn't update the post within a given time it dies.(or something) — user3788685 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
"requires editing by OP" already exists. It's called "flag/vote to close". The only problem are the labels (or maybe Triage and H&I existence at all, but that's for another discussion). — yivi 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Bollinger
@WackGet, if questions are routinely getting closed that should never have been closed in the first place then that is indeed a bad thing. In fact, I would rate it a considerably worse thing than what we're actually talking about, and one that would be a more worthy subject of Corporate's attention. — John Bollinger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Was this also a misclick? or this which you reviewed before it had sample data, or this can anyone other than the OP really explain what this is actually about? — Robert Longson 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by amlarraz
I happy to help! Can you please mark the question as answered? — amlarraz 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Or to put it another way, to post something on meta is to invite judgement, to invite criticism, and as you're not new to the meta site, not by a long shot, you already know this, should expect this, and should accept this, or if not, then remove the question. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
That's true! Does the OP still just get the tiny number next to the close button at the bottom of the post or has that been improved to draw attention to the fact is been flagged for them to look at? — user3788685 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
they where along time ago before I was more engaged and aware of how things worked... @RobertLongson — user3788685 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@S.S.Anne -- is that really necessary? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Meta is different in that there is no reputation be gained or lost here. I would generally advise you to not ask for your Answers to be accepted or voted on both here and on the main site. — Scratte 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@einpolkum, ModusTollens: Please do not devolve into an off-topic argument on Meta. Instead, go to Chat. — S.S. Anne 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
"a new question on Meta is met by people who has nothing to do with the main site but just spend their time judging people asking questions in Meta." That's objectively and demonstrably false. A recent blog post goes into detail about how Meta participants as a group are the most active in curating the main site, and the original statistics they pulled from also show that recent meta users contribute one in 6 answers on the main site. "Nothing to do" doesn't even come close. — Davy M 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
That's a very good point - I forget that people can be petty and silly like that... — user3788685 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by amlarraz
Ok, sorry for that. Thanks for the advice — amlarraz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
More recent examples: 1 Looks OK but has typo in title, 2 Looks OK but has wrong capitalization all over the place, — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
You very rarely pick requires editing (that's why I had to go back a long way) and that's certainly a point in your favour. I've removed my previous comment listing them as it's no longer needed. Often you can get unbanned if you explain in the question when requires editing is appropriate. — Robert Longson 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
So.... If I'm not like you, cool and 'in the know'... Do you have any proof about what you say? Cause to me now, it feels like a pure personal preference born of personal habit. That makes your whole post feel like 'well they should do this, or they are stupid beyond belief'. Surely you can see how that doesn't really people to your cause? — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@Zoe I doubt anyone can write a better answer. This answer is outstanding and there's no need to provide more information. The problem is always new users not knowing how to switch the error reporting on and the answer explains perfectly how it should be done and also what to do with that error once you can see it. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
My bet: you've got deleted questions that you may not recall, that are negatively scored. Note that no one can unblock you, since the blocking is not done by any one person, but rather by an algorithm. The link that you've been given with the blocking notification pretty much will tell you all that you need to know. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
The problem here is not the answer. It is the question. Your answer is good enough and people know about it and use it often. However, finding this question when you are looking for duplicates is often not easy unless you have the link bookmarked. The title is not as catchy as the one for the old mysql_* API was. When the question is not tagged with mysqli the system actually suggests the question for the old API as more suitable. Your meta question would be better worded if you were to seek options to improve SEO of that particular question with details and research. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I have heard people complaining that YCS gave it a title that makes it more difficult to find. We should seek ways to make that question pop up more often in the duplicate and Google search. It is the most important question in the mysqli tag. You are also doing good job closing and pointing other questions to this one. There are still some old questions which should be linked to this new one instead of stackoverflow.com/questions/linked/2973202?sort=newestDharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The net score of your questions is -4. You never got a single upvote on any question. That alone can be enough to trigger a ban. Your reputation comes from answers. Question bans and answer bans are separat. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Another thing is that the issue of mysqli error reporting is asked too often. We can delete a lot of unneeded duplicates, which either promote the use of die(mysqli_error($conn)); or bring no traffic to this duplicate e.g. are linked to the wrong duplicate target. — Dharman 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
@RobertLongson - thank you. Yes I realised a while back requires editing is not what it seems hence I stopped using it! and once I got access to the H&I I saw the problem first hand hence I think I've never done much other than skip - I may have edited a grand sum of 1 post. — user3788685 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Since this was the only "Requires Editing" action you did recently, I'll reset the duration and let you off this time. — Samuel Liew ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
1 - it’s the MSO logo, not the SO logo. It doesn’t have color. 2 - already in an existing answer — Catija ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
@SamuelLiew Thank you. Indeed I always try to learn from my mistakes and draw on what wisdom has been bestowed. — user3788685 35 secs ago
 
1:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
That's definitely not a solution... Often I don't have the computer with me... — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@TiagoMartinsPeres李大仁 Well, sorry. There's an option in the menu that you can use to do to the desktop site on mobile, but that's about it. — S.S. Anne 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
There's also "full site" in the bottom / footer of the mobile site, but in the profile / activity / and such views it's basically Chrome's Desktop mode — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@TiagoMartinsPeres李大仁 Yes, that's the responsive mode. It works much better, trust me. — S.S. Anne 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁
It's still underdeveloped... Can start using just like yivi also suggests... — Tiago Martins Peres 李大仁 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Don't. If I see people dupe-voting to questions which they have answers on, I downvote. If I see people asking for upvotes or promoting their answers, I downvote. Just leave your answer and know that you made a valuable contribution. — S.S. Anne 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Also, a link to the question might help, if you want community input. — yivi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
Please stop, there's no need to make this personal. A better use of your time might be adding a link to the question in question. — jonrsharpe 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Shouldn't the question rather be why you think Stack Exchange should change their corporate design because you think your scrollbars are "cool"? — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
And if related to dark-mode, are you aware there is a question were feedback is being collected? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That question was not deleted by a moderator. Five users voted to close. Three users voted to delete. Only the last delete vote came from a moderator. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@S.S.Anne This is a really bad approach. There is nothing inherently wrong with people trying to promote their good answers in the right way. The whole reason why we write good answers is to share the knowledge and we want as many people as possible to see them. Driving more traffic to good answers is what must be done, whether you are the author or not. — Dharman 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Your question was deleted because users found it first unclear, then that it had little chance of being salvaged. Instead of fighting the deletion, you can try to learn from that so you can ask the question again, but work a bit more on it so it's better received. — yivi 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Silveira
hmm... I cannot find ANY IMPROVEMENTS. — Eric Silveira 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
@Dharman Seems fair. I'll rethink my approach. Maybe just downvote posts that are asking for upvotes... — S.S. Anne 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You really need to look harder. Deserving deletion or not, it's easy to imagine several ways to improve the question. E.g. screenshots of before/after making your proposed change. Explanation of how your change would make a positive impact (or how not implementing the change is a problem), a title that better describes the improvement you request, more appropriate tags... I mean, that's only after looking at it a few seconds. And without really paying attention to see what the request is about. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Scratte You can usually undelete a question, so ultimately the effort isn't wasted unless of course the question was so off-topic that no amount of editing will make it on-topic. If you can edit those questions to be on-topic, you're almost surely just asking a completely different question... so you should post that different question via the 'ask a question' button rather than the 'edit' button. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Some Questions are just so bad that they have no value, no matter how they're rephrased. When users are Question banned, they are told to edit their Questions and get them back on track. That will not be possible for them unless they actually edit them. Even if they are not absolutely hopeless, they are not likely to bring those Questions back to being good with edits, because the premise of the initial Question just cannot become useful. Very good examples of those are Questions closed as typo's. There's just noway to edit them, and certainly not while still making existing comments relevant. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Several, if not most of those are better deleted than reopened, IMO. For those that should not be deleted, if any: wouldn't it be better to focus in one at a time and ask for a gold-badger help for this? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@yivi I don't think a gold-badger can reopen and close them on their own. I think you need at least 4 people. I might be wrong. If you think they can be deleted, I have no problem with it. I think some of them are of low quality, but at the same time I see they attract traffic and are positively scored, so I do not have a very good reason to recommend deletion. — Dharman 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@yivi Would asking for deletion of 14 questions be more correct? Or should I just ask the community to take a look at it and make a decision whether to reopen or delete? — Dharman just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If a gold badger can't do it, it's more problematic. Many of those are very poor, X/Y questions that are not really helpful. They have have a lot of views because X, but the answers are about Y, so that's not optimal. If they are deleted, better questions will inherit the traffic. But asking about reopening so many questions at the same time is not very practical, I think. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Requesting deletion of 14 questions wouldn't be a lot better, yeah. Not sure what's the best way to proceed. But I have the feeling that the target is too big here. Sorry I can't be of more help. — yivi 1 min ago
 
2:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Silveira
According to The Overflow, Dark Mode is not going to be ported to other sites. — Eric Silveira 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
A gold badge holder can edit the duplicate list either to add or replace duplicates. If these questions are duplicates of something else that's a better way forward. — Robert Longson just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@RobertLongson There is no list. These are old duplicates. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
You said "If these questions deserved to be closed as a duplicate, then the duplicate target is definitely wrong." I responded to that statement i.e. correct the duplicate target directly if that's the right action here. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@RobertLongson Maybe I am misunderstanding how it works, but in order for these questions to be closed as a duplicate, we need to reopen them first. What I said is that if we do reopen them and there is a better target they can be closed again. If there is a way to close them properly without reopening them first, then we can use that option, but I do not think this is possible. — Dharman 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
If a question is closed as a duplicate, someone with a gold badge can change that duplicate target without reopening the question. That's much much easier than reopening and closing with a different target. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@RobertLongson Even if they were closed as "exact duplicate"? Do you have a link to a post where this is explained? I am sorry, that I do not believe you, but from what I know you can only do so with the questions which were closed as normal duplicates. If you look closely these questions have no duplicate lists, which could be changed. To edit the target, we would need to reopen, rollback, and close again. If a process to do so in one click has been implemented it would be great. Unfortunately from what I know Stack Exchange employees said they won't fix it and it has to be manual process. — Dharman 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
Why did you put this information in an Answer? It doesn't answer your question about whether the question can be re-opened, it provides more information about what you want to do. — Cindy Meister 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
maybe no one agree with your proposal and the question doesn't deserve to stay around. — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Ah I see. What I don't see is why this would be valuable. Do 7 year old questions really need to have so much effort expended on them? Is the information they might contain really useful today that we'd form a team of people to fix this? — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@RobertLongson, Of course, we care about old questions. We care about them more than the new ones. If we don't value old questions then why do we keep them at all? Let's just delete all questions older than a year from the site. Whether these particular ones are useful or not is a different question. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Whether these questions are useful or not is exactly the question we need to ask in order to determine whether we should spend serious effort to try to improve them. After all you could just edit them to put the new duplicate target in if you wish. Wouldn't that be simpler? — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@user3788685 - It wasn't just one mistake. You made multiple mistakes, and clicked the wrong button, on multiple reviews. — Security Hound just now
 
4:06 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
I saw this a while ago here on Meta - I've been waiting for a second observation to confirm. This happens when Community closes the question (as in OP self-hammers the question with the "yes, this answers my question" button). This is indeed a bug — Zoe 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
@EricSilveira Having "no plans" doesn't mean it's not going to happen. It just means that it's not on the calendar yet. As the rest of the paragraph says, it's a very complex project and is going to require a lot of work so we have to think carefully about it. — Catija ♦ 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@AndrewMorton questions to the dupe target are always deleted when the question is closed as a duplicate, unless the comment is modified I think? Or the question isn't closed as a duplicate, of course. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
How comes there is no comment on that question linking to the duplicate? That's what usually happens - was it deleted? — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
Does this answer your question? This question already exists: ...?Ivar 1 min ago
 
4:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
This one has also been reported on Meta SE. Yaakov Ellis is working on it](meta.stackexchange.com/questions/345289/…). — Ivar 9 secs ago
 
4:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
Amazing! Thank you very much, I can see it is already in effect. The page is now working and I can revert my downvote and keep following :) — Tomerikoo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cam
These moderators are Nazi's. I can never actually ask a question. It's way to toxic and forget about having a discussion with another member. "Off topic" deleted... SMH — Cam 1 min ago
 
5:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
How do I participate in Meta and not die trying?. We're not going to entertain feature requests because they are "cool". We've done that already with dark mode and look what we've got after 6 to 8 weeks. — rene 49 secs ago
 
5:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3788685
@SecurityHound everyone can be a critique - a teacher offers some guidance... — user3788685 1 min ago
 
6:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by double-beep
Have you taken a look at the other bug reports to see if these were reported? — double-beep 1 min ago
 
6:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lankymart
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Please test these things before pushing them to the site. This has been said over and over again but things like this keep happening. — S.S. Anne 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@S.S.Anne You need to bear in mind that SE's developers and testers are of very limited quantity, whereas there's ummm some uncountable number of us, we are the ideal testers. You can't expect them to catch everything can you? — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S&#233;bastien Renauld
@S.S.Anne The point of a bug is that it's unexpected and was not caught. When was the last time you shipped verifiably bug-free stuff? — Sébastien Renauld 1 min ago
 
8:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Voting is quality control. Apply it as much as possible to ensure it has the helps the many many people who will view the answers and worry less about the one person who has provided that answe. — Robert Longson 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
People copy code from Stack Overflow all the time. If someone posts an answer which uses bad practices, that's a problem. Feel free to vote (but also comment to the effect of what the problem is, so others reading the answer can see it, and so OP might fix it) — CertainPerformance 14 secs ago
 
8:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
@Lamu i am quite unsure, i thought using Parameters.AddWithValue was the standard, But i hate people which downvote a legitimate answer. You can add you better answer and comment on the not so go answer, but downvoting a valid answer is wrong — nbk 27 secs ago
 
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