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12:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
@poke No repro, works fine for me on mobile, are you making sure to use a modern browser with responsiveness enabled — Nick A 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
@HereticMonkey But it is a good question - at least, IMHO it is. — Adrian Mole 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
The rant distracts from saving the question, by the way... — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
@NickCraver Oh right, people still use that? :P In that case... yes, repro — Nick A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Craver
I think @poke means the Mobile theme (instead of responsive "full site") - indeed they don't work there and would continue to be links (so: no change from today). That's current status - let's see what kind of feedback we get :) Doing all the styling and maintenance work for older mobile would be non-trivial, work probably better spent getting everything towards responsive. — Nick Craver ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
When OP won't do it, then there isn't. — Tom 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Misir Jafarov
@NickA thanks, it does — Misir Jafarov 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@Gabriel very nice of you to assume I deleted these comments when I haven't even visited this question after refeaturing it. — Samuel Liew ♦ 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
rectification: it's not the correct answer but the accepted answer. accepted != correct. — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@AdrianMole My comment has nothing to do with whether or not the question is good or not. It has to do with the rant in this meta question, and whether it helps to reopen the question or not. To me, it hurts, because I don't believe there is any "witch hunt", and I'm tired of hearing about accusations of such. — Heretic Monkey 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel A. White
I’d be concerned about enabling this on the public site. If the gist changes or is deleted , the underlying context of the question could change. Same reasoning why we don’t like link only answers/links to code in questions. I do like the general idea. — Daniel A. White 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andre_ss6
@HereticMonkey Yes, I feared that. I don't have anywhere else to talk about this, though. I know there is meta, but I feel that meta is unwelcoming and thus I'm using my free space here in this question to rant. And every time I see these kind of questions being closed I feel like this. If the mods will be less likely to reopen the question because of my rant then I guess that speaks more about them than about the question or myself. — andre_ss6 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
@andre_ss6 Sadly meta is seen as unwelcoming because of the rants people put in questions — Nick A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan is Fiddling by Firelight
@DanielA.White if the oneboxes are dynamic I agree. Snapshotting would seem to avoid any abuse cases though. — Dan is Fiddling by Firelight 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel A. White
@danis I don’t think these are snapshot. They are just transformed dynamically like into an iframe I think — Daniel A. White just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew
You can always permalink. I'm wondering how this feature could eventually apply to private repos, since if the question is in Teams to begin with, it may not be about public source code. Basically need a read-only GitHub API key plus the ability to replace it if/when the key is revoked, yes? — Andrew 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I removed the unrelated "rant" (by your own admission) and multiple comments regarding it, so that we can focus on the issue at hand, which is determining whether that question deserves to be re-opened. If you want to discuss a larger issue, then you should open a new question about it. — Cody Gray ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Áron Várhelyi
idk, those 5 minutes seems to be enough for users to mess up consistency. Its kind of strange (maybe its just me), one would assume that a string of comments are linear and unbroken chain and represent true order of conversation and toughts. — Áron Várhelyi 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew
@DanielA.White I mean e.g. github.com/StackExchange/Dapper/blob/…, but you may well know something I don't here. — Andrew 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
See what? See that on Stack Overflow, including its Meta site, we like to keep discussions focused and topical? Yes, we absolutely do. See that these sites are moderated? Yes, indeed, they are. What I don't see is any proof that there is a problem. — Cody Gray ♦ 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel A. White
@andrew external permalinks aren’t permalinks — Daniel A. White 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andre_ss6
See? 🤷‍♂️..... — andre_ss6 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel A. White
@Andrew what happens if nick deleted that? — Daniel A. White 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel A. White
@Andrew I’m voicing my concerns now for the public site — Daniel A. White 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew
@DanielA.White If the repo itself gets deleted, the revision removed, etc., then it's still a dead link. A lot of questions in our Teams instance that need GitHub links really need to link to the current state of the code anyway (they'll get outdated, but it's even more confusing if the relevant code goes away / gets refactored / etc.). That might not be everyone's use case. — Andrew 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Dalgas
We are working on the timing of the onebox refreshes. Right now they are tied to editing the post only after an initial fetch window. We have a service working in the background that can do the work of fetching an updated version as soon as we look at how these GitHub oneboxes are actually used in production. — Geoff Dalgas ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew
@DanielA.White Understood. The same logic could apply, I think, and I agree that we don't want link-only answers to oneboxed GitHub code any more than link-only answers of any other variety. Providing a link for context and quoting only some of the code could be useful. Does it become redundant then to include the code blob then copy part of the code blob into the post? Good thoughts, and more thinking about it than I care to do at the moment. — Andrew 1 min ago
 
12:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andre_ss6
The what you don't see is feedback. I don't need no proof. I'm voicing my opinion as a SO user that rarely uses meta. Your reply is loaded with irony, which itself could be the evidence you're seeking that this site is unwelcoming. The previous reply saying that they are "tired of seeing this" is further evidence. This is the reason I don't open a new question. By removing my "rant" you're further preventing people like me from coming here. And by the way, there is no "by my own admission" as in no moment I did that. Either way, I just hope this improves in the future. Thanks. — andre_ss6 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You yourself used the word "rant" in your question when you said "/rant off". I never said I was "tired of seeing this", but it's entirely possible that someone did. When you are a regular on Meta, you do tend to see a lot of rants, and you do tend to grow tired of them. It works a lot better to just focus on the issues, which is why I modified your question accordingly. I cannot puzzle out how that is "unwelcoming", or how editing out self-admitted rants is preventing you or anyone else from coming here. This isn't just a place to blow off steam. It's a Q&A site in its own right. — Cody Gray ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@andre_ss6 Your original question literally ended with "/rant off"; how is that not by your own admission? And the issue you were asking about was resolved with zero fuss - the only "unwelcoming" thing here has been people's reactions to your negative attitude. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Félix Gagnon-Grenier
@ÁronVárhelyi Maybe it's not you indeed, I, for one, have totally non-linear train of thoughts, can go on multiple ideas branching from a single one and can entertain multiple ideas at once. I am totally not in agreement with your opinion that there should be a single linear follow-through in the comments, nor that it is any valid representation of "thoughts". — Félix Gagnon-Grenier 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
This is nonsense. There is nothing stopping moderators or even regular users from creating a [monica]. Staff has done nothing to prevent that. However, I do not feel that this tag would serve any purpose. We don't need to continue discussing Monica; there is nothing more that can be done about that. For discussions about the relationship between the company and the community, we have two tags: [community] and [company] (the latter of which is a synonym of [stack-exchange]). — Cody Gray ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andre_ss6
Do you see any "feedback" button here? I don't. "Contact us" maybe? If you search enough. Where does it point you to? Meta. If you use a company's product and send them an email at email@company instead of feedback@company and they answer you "We're actively deleting your feedback because you've used the wrong channel", how would you react? So yes, I know this isn't the right place and I'm not asking you to change anything about it. I'm only trying to say that the very point about me feeling that meta is unwelcoming means that I have nowhere to expose my feedback about SO and meta itself. — andre_ss6 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andre_ss6
Would it have made a difference to leave my question as it was? Maybe yes, maybe not. Would it have made a difference to open a new question? Maybe yes, maybe not. Have I left my feedback on the annual survey? Yes. Do I want to keep discussing this? No. Thanks. — andre_ss6 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonesome Reinstate Monica
I think you are missing the underlying conversation. There is an issue, that came to a head with the Monica incident. A Monica tag is not to talk about the Monica incident, it would be to tag discussions related to the overall issue of misaligned management behavior and attitude toward moderators/the community. "Monica" is simply the tag, not the topic itself. — Jonesome Reinstate Monica 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gabriel
@SamuelLiew if it wasn't you, then I apologize. Someone who is not you is deleting comments (not just mine) of similar nature and I'd like them to stop. — Gabriel 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
Both. The ratio started with a high ratio of “bottom up” (community) to “top down” (company), over time that’s been reversed (particularly in recent quarters); now it’s more “top down” than “bottom up”. This has caused some friction on meta. — Dan Bron just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
That is a poor name for the tag, as the issues are unrelated to Monica herself. They are much larger than that. Monica's dismissal and the subsequent bungling of the issue by staff members was only a symptom of the larger problem. We do need to talk about the problem, that's why I pointed out the two tags, both of which were expressly created for this purpose. But we do not need to plaster discussions about it with Monica's name. She never asked for that, and it would not help to make those discussions discoverable. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I told you already in the very first comment that if you want to discuss a larger issue, you should ask a new question about it. The point was only that trying to make this question about a larger issue is unproductive. This question should focus exclusively on whether or not the cited question on the main site deserves to be closed. If you want to provide feedback about your feeling that too many questions get closed or whatever, then you're entitled to do so, and I'm not trying to silence that. I just asked that you do so in a new question where it can be treated separately. — Cody Gray ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Griswald
No. Not even Meta has died/collapsed. This is all in your head and not a single site metric agrees with you. Apart from a load of people changing their screen names to Monica or whatever, hardly anything has changed. If anything, there are more posts on meta than ever before. — Geoff Griswald 1 min ago
 
2:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by poke
@NickCraver “Mobile theme” & “[all the] work for older mobile” – Not sure what you mean with that. I am referring to the mobile view that I get when I open SO on my phone. If that’s something “older”, then I don’t know, but it’s still the default. So yeah, “people still use that”. — poke 8 secs ago
 
2:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
So this is all a massive tantrum over gender pronouns? Just more Social Justice petulance and rage, all to try and bully Stack Exchange into doing what they are told by inane, unhinged and endlessly mutating day to day Progressive Social Justice authoritarianism? — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
And where would "All the best users" move on to exactly? There is no forum that comes even close to being as well laid out for technical questions than here. So where would they go? They will go away and have a petulant tantrum over Social Justice and gender pronouns and then come back (with a different username just to save face) and that will be that. — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
A lot of boring, whining, followers of the Social Justice religion will leave in a tantrum, and this site is probably better off for it if the 5% of that are Social Justice zealots leave in a pique of rage. All these Social Justice types ever do is actively look for ways to be offended at everything. This whole thing is about gender pronouns and Social Justice authoritarianism. When are people going to wake up to what these cult-like perma-enraged fake-activists are doing to us all? This is not some noble fight for what is right, just empty fake-activists trying to infantilise a great site. — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
I see no missteps here, and suspect that the "subject of textbooks" will be "The Feminist Social Justice Handbook On How to Be Permanently Enraged and Rage Quit Forums That Dare To Disagree With Social Justice". This is also not a textbook that anyone will be buying. I can only cimpliment the management of Stack Exchange. They have been fair and reasonable. Let the perma-enraged Social Justice fake-activists walk out. We that want answers to technical questions are better off without their endless tantrums. — YorSubs 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Ironically, the most frequent criticism leveled at the Stack Exchange management is that they are engaging in the “Social Justice” activism that you appear to hate so much. — Cody Gray ♦ 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
Bravo for this answer. Indeed, all of this is virtue signalling about "wrongthink". I have no doubt that your perfect answer her will be frantically downvoted by the perma-enraged Social Justice fake-activists who spend all of their time being offended by everything. Let's watch as they bang on "downvote!" to prove that they are true activists, fighting for Monica and against "misgendering"! We that care about technical answers to questions could not care less about their virtue signaling. Bravo to the SE management for standing up to their ever-present tantrums and demands. — YorSubs 31 secs ago
 
3:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
How are the "issues" larger Cody? Seems that the "issues" are all around the ridiculousness of Social Justice demands about "misgendering". i.e. completely and utterly trivial nonsense that 99% of users do not care about. So, not to second guess you, please do say what the issues are, because all of these Social Justice tantrums are just empty virtue signalling. I, along with many, are very glad and see no downsides if these people having fake-activist tantrums all leave the site. This is long overdue and will make the site much better. Bravo to SE management for standing up to their bullying — YorSubs 1 min ago
 
3:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
But ironically, I read through the details and Monica's complaint was all to do with how the CoC didn't talk about misgendering in the "right" way. Indeed, I am extremely opposed to the religious dogma of the cult of Social Justice and the endless demands that it makes on us all. The current politics in the US is a sane backlash to that self-contradictory unhinged insanity that is Social Justice. But I am all ears, please do elaborate on how I am wrong if Monica's complaint was all about the wording around "misgendering"? — YorSubs 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
You (twice) intimate that the reasons that they are leaving will affect users, while at the same time, not even at all stating the reasons that they are leaving. This answer needs work - please elaborate on what you see as the reasons that moderators are resigning (since, as you say, it is the fundamental point of your answer)? — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Stack Exchange management started discussing a revision to the Code of Conduct with moderators in private channels. The express purpose of this revision was to require users to refer to other users using the correct pronouns in order to avoid misgendering. You can see the original policy in this archive. Monica expressed concerns about this; in particular, the use of "they" as a singular pronoun. Her concerns were not about misgendering. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@SecurityHound so far SO/SE agrees with you - finding duplicates is "punished" by the fact one loses rep they can easily gain by answering multiple questions in time taken to search for duplicate and by daily "those @#$@ elitists duplicated my question instead of copy-pasting answer" posts/comments. It's very hard to vote on this proposal without knowing what SE thinks about duplicates for future... — Alexei Levenkov 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
Of course, it's really hard to recognize in one's self because when presented with the contradiction, their view self adjusts, which might present itself in this case like "well of course I was exaggerating, only some left" so that their mind doesn't have to admit it thought something irrational. However if you're willing to try, there are some questions you can find online to help you figure out if you're stuck in a cognitive dissonance bubble or if your position really is rational, just look up "tells of cognitive dissonance." — Davy M 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
"they had a massive tantrum and all left... Let's watch as the perma-enraged Social Justice fake-activists downvote this answer like crazy" I'm not sure what's up with your world view, but you can't have both an entire group leaving and yet those same people being the ones sticking around to vote. Often when someone blatantly contradicts themselves when arguing a topic they're passionate about, it's a sign of cognitive dissonance. — Davy M 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I'm sorry, I really don't have enough room in the comments to give this a full explanation, and I don't want to be misinterpreted as favoring a side that I do not. Have you read through the prior discussions on Meta Stack Exchange? That would be the best place to start. While SE staff clearly embarked on a Social Justice mission, Monica was never opposed to that, and neither were any of the other SO moderators who resigned. — Cody Gray ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
ok, then I stand corrected and will alter/delete comments to reflect this, but the other main problem is that in reading hundreds of comments, they are all so tortuously unclear and avoiding the point of the issue - which just shows how obfuscating people's answers and comments are on this - why are people not clear on this and dance around the point!). I agree that it is utterly ridiculous to mangle the English language to use "they" as a singular pronoun. Shouldn't my offence over that count for something?? (lol) ;). I am disgusted if SE management are pushing gender fascism. — YorSubs 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@AlexeiLevenkov - Users who answer questions just to earn reputation, don't earn a lot of reputation, it's only when you stop trying to earn reputation and just answer a question to the best of your ability do upvotes start to happen. Sure if you answer 10 questions poorly, you might get a couple of upvotes, but a single good quality answer will earn you more repuation. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The reality is that no mainstream side of this debate agrees with you. Almost everyone is in favor of treating other users with respect and dignity by calling them what they wish to be called. Nobody thinks that's "gender fascism". Monica didn't, I don't, and neither does anyone else to within rounding error. The moderator resignations center more around lack of trust in the management, not only motivated by Monica's seemingly unfair and unjustified dismissal, but also issues like the relicensing of content, lack of communication with mods about site policy changes, and so on. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The reason the comments are so unclear is that this is something that has been evolving over months, if not years, so it's almost impossible to give a clear, cogent explanation in 600 characters. Posts with thousands of words have been written about it. Multiple times, by many people. The issues are complex and deeply rooted. No one is trying to obfuscate any issues or avoid the point. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
The posts with thousands of words are useless. I read some of them, and really, they are completely incoherent in that they simply do not get to the point. If anyone wrote technical answers like that they would be downvoted massively. So, SE pushed rigid Social Justice gender fascism. The other points that you mention could be explained in a few words. "lack of trust in the management". Lack of trust exists everywhere in the world, you'd have to be specific. "unfair dismissal": details? "relicensing of content": do you have an exmaple? Why do mods need so much communication? — YorSubs 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I tried explaining in a few words. Now you want details. You can't have it both ways. I don't have room in the comments to explain it with details, and I'm not going to try. The problem is all the posts that get to the point you're looking for have been removed after being judged rude or unfriendly, since you're essentially dismissing anyone with a non-binary gender identity as irrelevant and anyone who argues for treating such people with dignity as "gender fascists". — Cody Gray ♦ 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
I'm again unclear: are the mods so immature that they needed to be hand-held all the time. I have no problem with a mod complaining about Code of Conduct changes, hell, I'd be right there pushing back against gender fascism also, but I'm not here for the management to make me happy. If Social Justice gender fascism overtakes the site (as it has with so many) I would just leave without a fuss. Social Justice is now so dominant that we are not permitted to question it (all current Democratic candidates in the US want speech laws in the same way that Nazi Germany had for example). — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
Notice how in your two comments here, you don't actually elaborate on anything. You don't tell me what you think the problem is in your words, just berate me. I might have the whole thing backwards, but as I said on another answer, I read hundreds of answers and no one was direct on what the issues are. It looks to me now like SE management might be the guilty party if they pushed gender fascism and Social Justice, but Monica also seems to have just a slightly different Social Justice position. All Social Justice is an effective cancer on the mind. All of it is cognitive dissonance. — YorSubs 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
"I'm not sure what's up with your world view, but you can't have both an entire group leaving and yet those same people being the ones sticking around to vote.". Oh, you can. Maybe you don't fully understand Social Justice fake-activists, but everything they do is about their offence, so one the one hand say that they are leaving, then on the other, create fake accounts so that they can berate everyone for daring to question the insanity that is Social Justice. This is what they live for. — YorSubs 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@SecurityHound I don't get your comment... To even start searching for duplicate one need to know the answer... and it is very rare (ignoring NRE cases) when writing a good answer would be slower than finding the correct duplicate for me... My point is one erns more reputation by providing good answers to duplicate questions than searching for duplicates. Both reputation rewards and poster's feedback stacked against looking for duplicates for very long time. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
"since you're essentially dismissing anyone with a non-binary gender identity as irrelevant". That is a lie. You just lied about me directly. Gender fascism is specific. It is the imposition and demand that all of society must be compelled to change language to conform to this. I have no problem with people saying that they are a unicorn or Napoleon if they have that issue. I'm no more saying that they are irrelevant than they are saying that I am. I am pointing out that it is irrelevant to a technical discussion forum. Please stop lying about me. — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user2293224
@DanBron then my question would be who is in top management who make those decisions? Is there any cabinet kind of thing? Who elects them? — user2293224 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Well, I don't answer questions to earn reputation points, so I don't understand your argument. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
People don't like having their assumptions challenged: You make the assumption that all gender fascism must be capitulated to (i.e. drink the kool-aid). You do not like having your non-fact / non-evidence based assumption challenged. It seems that you do not like having your assumptions challenged Cody. If a woman says to you "I am Julius Caesar and you must address me as Caesar!" do you just capitulate and accept that? You might indulge that persons insanity but you certainly do not believe that they are really Julius Caesar. This is the same. No difference. — YorSubs 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
A conversation has been archived in chat. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
In Nazi Germany they had hate speech laws which they used to control and oppress people. After WW2 we stopped all of that. Now, all Democratic candidates in the US have signed up to hate speech laws to compel people to change their language to capitulate to certain religious ideologies (in particular the religious ideology of Social Justice). If it was fascism when the Nazis did it, how is it not fascism when the Democratic Party do it? You are ok with speech laws that stifle all debate and make people conform utterly to this one anti-science ideology? — YorSubs 58 secs ago
 
5:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
It's a business and not all it's internal processes are transparent. As a business it does not have to share these things. The conflict it is a community driven site being run by a corporation. — Yvette Colomb 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
Given the age of the duplicate and the changes in the structure of Stack Overflow Inc, I think this question should be reopened. — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rick James
@user4642212 - Without parentheses, it is hard to be fully explicit. Too many programmers fail to know the precedence between AND and OR. — Rick James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rick James
Search was working fine for me until about Feb 16 or 17, 2020; then it broke. — Rick James 1 min ago
 
6:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
But it is "too broad"... And the OP here is the person who answered, so not a selfless request. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It doesn't strike me as being too broad, @Cindy. A reasonably-scoped answer seems to be possible. I did not miss that the person who asked was the same person who answered, but I don't see how that is relevant. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
6:28 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Themelis
That's a very nice solution! — Themelis just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Themelis
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7:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shaido - Reinstate Monica
@YorSubs: I'm quite sure you have some misunderstanding of the situation as this is close to the opposite of my understanding. I would suggest going through some of the links in this answer and read them more carefully. — Shaido - Reinstate Monica 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
 
8:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
"The new questions are mostly perceived as quite specific, more like help-desk or programming homework questions. SO is described as live debugger." - It makes a lot of sense to me that the questions are going to be more specific as technologies get older and most non-specific questions have already already been answered. As for the helpdesk / do my homework questions, I feel like those have always been part of SO, not just recently under the new management. — T A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tadeusz Kopec
" I don't think anyone here disagrees that people should be called what they want to be called." I think most of people do disagree with this. There is an agreement (I hope) for the negative variant - people should not be called the way they don't want to be called. And there is an agreement that if someone demands to be called the infamous attack helicopter, nobody is expected to satisfy their wish, which falsifies your claim. — Tadeusz Kopec 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
I went through hundreds of comments and the only thing that was clear was that no one was clear on any of this. I finally saw something that was clear and I was prepared to agree with you that I am completely wrong, but then it turns out that this comes down to two opposing views of Social Justice. SE management are definitely in the wrong in promoting gender authoritarianism (demanding that all must conform to using "they" in the singular etc) but Monica just has a different view of Social Justice authoritarianism and wants the Code of Conduct to say different words. Is that right? — YorSubs 7 secs ago
 
8:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by klutt
@YorSubs The third paragraph is a summary of that — klutt 11 secs ago
 
9:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Hi Sakar Mehra, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@Trilarion dupe->target relation is not always transitivegnat 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sakar Mehra
I have asked this question everywhere but no one is helping me so I am trying to ask for help here. — Sakar Mehra 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Well, that is too bad but Meta isn't really the right place. — rene 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@TA Everyone has a different date of when helpdesk/homework questions become more visible. See for example When did SO turn from “A site for professional and enthusiast programmers” to a “Help me with my school works” site?. — Trilarion 1 min ago
 
10:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
I had never heard of Monica before the uproar over her dismissal. But reading through her careful recounting of everything that happened, and the company's clumsy responses, it was clear that there was a colossal injustice being committed, with an appalling show of indifference. It really brought out into the open an enormous chasm between the values and thought processes inside SO and those in the community. It was, in short, outrageous. — Steve Bennett 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
@YorSubs No. There was some kind of difference in opinions about pronouns, but that was the small issue that triggered SO's unjustifiable actions, not an ongoing issue that was actually being debated after that point. — Steve Bennett 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rekire
You can define the commit so in theory that should be the same version for ever — rekire 1 min ago
 
10:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@rekire as long as that stays available on GitHub's servers though. It's still a dependency. — Marco Bonelli 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PanthersFan92
You're ignoring what I said. I never said that ALL down-votes are unjustified. I never said users don't have a right to down-vote. All I'm saying is that when I'm getting down-voted without any reason and then up-voted for the same question and see many similar questions (with less effort, btw) getting more upvotes than it's not about content quality. If you "don't need to" look at the evidence that what I'm saying is right than there's no point in continuing any discussion about it because you simply don't believe me which is your right. — PanthersFan92 1 min ago
 
11:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@HenryHenrinson: without any qualification to your comment, all I can do is dismiss that as a minority opinion. Write your own answer if you can motivate it, so we can vote on it. Otherwise, use voting. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
11:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
“This is not a dup of Is multi tag search broken? from 3 years ago!” — It should still be the same as Has the behaviour of combined tags search changed? which was closed as a dupe of that. — user4642212 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
It's too broad. OP didn't research anything, he just post the question "what is A" and another opinion-based question (or he really think microsoft decision maker will come and answer him?). Nor OP has any real problem with it. It's just another "I saw this and I am asking question" question. — Sinatr 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Should this question really be closed as a duplicate of Is multi tag search broken?? That’s from three years ago, but apparently new problems have arisen, leading to new questions like Recent fix broke AND-OR queries; cf “nn questions with new activity”. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
“This is not a dup of Is multi tag search broken? from 3 years ago!” — It should still be the same as Has the behaviour of combined tags search changed? which was closed as a dupe of that. This question is more likely to be a dupe of the recent one, but then none of the newer questions should be closed as a dupe of that 3-year-old one. — user4642212 1 min ago
 
11:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
So I got it right them. It's an ideological debate on "hate speech". The Nazi's in Germany had hate speech laws used to oppress and control people. Today, all Socialists (UK Labour, all US Democratic candidates) support hate speech laws (but they say it's all for kindness and "respect"!!). Normal people don't want the oppressive cancer of Social Justice cancer. We get on with our lives. A technical forum is for technical questions. I have zero interest in Social Justice gender activism rubbish. SE are wrong to indulge Socialist / student activist crap and also the moderators. Right? — YorSubs 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
"it was clear that there was a colossal injustice being committed" and yet no one can show what the "colossal injustice" was. Everyone talks about it, but I've read hundreds of comments and no one says what it was. They booted a community moderator out because she annoyed them seems to be what happened. Golly, it's a forum. She's a community moderator. This isn't Rosa Parks folks. Why is everything such a massive drama with Social Justice? Drama is all that it generates. If it was a white man that was kicked out, literally no one would give a damn. — YorSubs 1 min ago
 
12:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 12379095
Who "You"? Good Riddance Monica. — 12379095 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
So I got it right then. It's an ideological debate on "hate speech". The Nazi's in Germany had hate speech laws used to oppress and control people. Today, all Socialists (UK Labour, all US Democratic candidates) support hate speech laws (but they say it's all for kindness and "respect"!!). Normal people don't want the oppressive cancer of Social Justice. We get on with our lives. A technical forum is for technical questions. I have zero interest in Social Justice gender activism rubbish. SE are wrong to indulge Socialist / student activist crap and also the moderators. Right? — YorSubs 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
"it was clear that there was a colossal injustice being committed" and yet no one can show what the "colossal injustice" was. So many thousands of words but there really is little to say what this "crime" was. They booted a community moderator out because she annoyed them seems to be what happened. Golly, it's a forum! She's a community moderator! This isn't Rosa Parks folks. Why is everything such a massive drama, is drama all that Social Justice ever produces (certainly does nothing good for society!). Also, if it was a white man that was kicked out, literally no one would give a damn... — YorSubs 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
On trying to unravel this a bit more, it looks like both sides are guilty of pushing ideologically toxic Social Justice gender authoritarianism where everyone must conform. Both sides are probably in the wrong here. SE really shouldn't say anything in their code of conduct pandering to the bigots of Social Justice. This was a big mistake, because when you do that, Social Justice fake-activists immediately attack "but but you didn't say it in the right way!" etc. This should be a lesson to SE, to just avoid Social Justice, it only ever leads to problems. — YorSubs 36 secs ago
 
12:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
I don't think that we're just going to be using GitHub. Maybe add https://github.com to those links? — S.S. Anne 41 secs ago
 
1:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Unlikely. The HTML of posts is generated once after post creation or each edit. One-boxing can be disabled by creating a link that isn’t on its own line or with alternative link text. — user4642212 1 min ago
 
1:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by leonheess
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I find that recently the idea that it's "bottom-up" is laughable. The Stack Exchange corporation has most definitely been making "the rules" recently and even if they are very poorly received by the community, moderators, contributors, they are here to stay, with little to no alterations. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Better example: do the same search on-site with SO's search: stackoverflow.com/search?q=java+hashmap+vs+hashset. The canonical post doesn't even pop up. You get 2 seemingly good posts and 10 bad. This could be because the SO search engine is utter crap, or because the good content is drowning in a flood of crappy duplicates, or a combination. Whatever the case, it is pretty sad. — Lundin 1 min ago
 
1:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 000
@nbk You didn't understand my scenario, but it happened because they keep editing this meta-question (I provided a MRE, as difference details (that they keep cutting out) might lead to different meta-answers). I repeat it here: the deleted question was fine. It didn't get upvotes not for its low quality () but because it was really specific (people tend to upvote questions they can answer to). After that I was serially downvoted and my question was then _roombed_. ( () Of course EVERY question can be improved, so I'm sure that also my question could have improved as well) — 000 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
@Trilarion My point is that your question seems to imply that SO may be encouraging or at least tolerating "help desk" answers as part of their strategy. I don't think that's the case, as this problem is much bigger and has been a problem for a long time already. The problem is that users enable those questions by answering them and not downvoting or simply ignoring them. — T A 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ansgar Wiechers
"Is it a top-down approach [...]?" It is now. — Ansgar Wiechers 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@leonheess No. The linked question summarizes the revenue. I would need a certain part of it, which is not included in the answers there, or is it? — Trilarion 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abhinav Saxena
I have learned, so far so good, but still miles to go. — Abhinav Saxena 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abhinav Saxena
@CodyGray Sir seeing your amazing feats, I know I am working with brightest minds here. How to proceed like you. Every day is a quick day and every time is a high time Sir. Please guide. — Abhinav Saxena 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@TA Yes, I think so that SO is tolerating and encouraging help desk questions. For example minimal understanding required used to be a close reason but isn't no more. And several times the company stressed that they want to maximize the number of new users, which we know ask lots of help desk questions. If you want, I can dig up some citations. What do you mean by "the problem is much bigger"? What is the bigger problem? — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Soner Gönül
@user4642212 I'm little bit confused about closing or not at first, honestly. There are still some problems on "Search". Even we know that, so, should we close all questions about "search not working properly" as a duplicate? Even they still appears? On my personal view, this situation affected me really bad. I stopped to monitor questions because even I filter with [datetime] and [c#] (in url: c%23+and+datetime) some questions with tagged python, questions contains only c# or questions contains only datetime tag(s) drop that page and this makes the page unmanageable. — Soner Gönül 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
@Trilarion The bigger problem is (in my opinion) that the community enables those kinds of questions. If people stopped answering bad questions and instead downvoted or ignored them we would propably not have this problem in the first place. — T A 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@TA What keeps communities on track are rules. Currently there is no penalty for answering such questions, but surely there have been many feature requests to that regard, for example removing rep gain retroactively from answering duplicates, .. — Trilarion 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Griswald
I think that was why they even tried to make the point about gender pronouns in the first place, to try and keep the politics off the site. It was clumsy, ill-advised and backfired in a big way, since so many people are desperate to make a big deal over this stuff, it's like a red flag to a bull if anything happens surrounding "gender identity", no matter how trivial or insignificant. Their position is so weak, their insecurity about it shows through via this type of outpouring of reaction, emotion, indignation and pearl-clutching horror, when nothing has really even happened. — Geoff Griswald 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frinavale
Hmm...I haven't contributed to the StackExchange network but I believe I'm a member. Let me check — Frinavale 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sterling Archer
Considering your account is 10 years old, perhaps a glitch happened? Or a recent login, etc — Sterling Archer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tyler Roper
Did you perhaps earn it on multiple different sites in the StackExchange network at the same time? I had this happen somewhat recently and was initially confused myself. — Tyler Roper 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
@Frinavale It's not a messaging system issue, you did legitimately get the badge 10 times in the span 5 hours — Nick A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
"for example removing rep gain retroactively from answering duplicates" - this is actually in practice. If a duplicate question is removed, so is the reputation gain for the answerer. So it is sufficient to downvote and flag bad questions by design. — T A 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frinavale
@NickA haha! Ok so yeah, I've been an active member for 10 years. Maybe they just forgot to issue them over the years. Weird. — Frinavale 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Does this answer your question? Bug in Yearling badge?Tom 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Yearling badge is linked to a certain amount of rep. You will only get those badges when you surpass that threshold and then get the badge for all active years, even when you didn't had the rep at that time. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
@Frinavale Interestingly it was awardedly correctly on main, it's only on meta SO that you've just been awarded all the badges... presumably because you're new to meta — Nick A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
You only seem to have gotten the yearling badges on Meta. Did you have an account on Meta before? I get the feeling that your Meta account only exists since yesterday and it seems that the "Member for..." is copied from the main account, so it awards you the yearling badges you haven't received yet. — Ivar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
@Tom Not relevant — Nick A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frinavale
@Ivar I have a feeling you are right. I was not on meta before and just checked it out yesterday. This is probably the reason. — Frinavale 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A
Damn it Cat! I was typing! ;p — Nick A 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frinavale
No this still doesn't make sense. There are a good number of my answers that feed into my reputation that I'm sure give me more than 200 a year. And I log in a few times a year too so it's not like I've been completely inactive for over a year. — Frinavale 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frinavale
Thanks guys, this makes more sense. — Frinavale 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
@Tom I'm gonna say no, because this is a fun and interesting meta-specific situation. :D — Catija ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
Tricky situation. Moderators should not get involved with judging the technical accuracy of answers. The answer isn't complete plagiarism, it contains original content, however wrong it may be; the duplicate part is just an artefact of the circumstances. We shouldn't generally bend any rules just because something is receiving more attention than the average post. — Overall, it'd be best for the author to delete it or the community to vote to delete this. Other than the fact that it's receiving some attention right now, there's nothing much there for a moderator to deal with. — deceze ♦ 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
@deceze note the screenshot, it’s positively scored so we can’t vote to delete it. Absent moderator intervention, we can’t do much. — George Stocker 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
Yes, so the only reason a moderator should get involved is that it's currently a popular post; is that reason enough to get on the slippery slope of deleting content we usually won't? — deceze ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
I have not deleted question but 24 days ago my one question is deleted by team that was downvoted here is link stackoverflow.com/questions/52317882/…VikaS GuttE 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Interestingly, your recent edit history doesn't look that bad. Wouldn't have excepted a automatic ban from that. — BDL 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
@deceze I’m a bit confused. We as moderators regularly deleted copy and pasted answers. Is there somewhere that changed? — George Stocker 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
What people probably would like to have would be a frozen version of the code at the time of the artifact creation, independent of any existing Gist and the actual code from the Gist and a way to toggle between the two. At least for the public Q&A. Can the boxes do that? — Trilarion 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
You have 7 deleted questions, 3 of which have negative scores… — deceze ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@deceze Isn't that what George has been asking for? — yivi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
The reason for that is typically plagiarism. I don't see a clear case of that here. The intent of the author clearly wasn't to plagiarise and they basically state that they're only doing so due to the circumstances (because they couldn't delete their post). — If anything, should we honour the poster's implied request for deletion…? — deceze ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
@deceze where I can see them? only one question is visible under delete question. — VikaS GuttE 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
@yivi Trying to lawyer through this here; we don't want to be deleting for the wrong reason… — deceze ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@BDL rejected suggested edits to (now) deleted posts could be at play as well. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
@BDL What I need to do for getting out from edit ban if my edit history is good? — VikaS GuttE 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
"do I need to create new account?" - no, don't do that. The system will detect that you're trying to evade a question ban, and your new account will also get question-banned. — F1Krazy 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
@yivi could you please point some post so I can get idea, also is there any way to get out from ban or period time for same. — VikaS GuttE 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7… — deceze ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You get a chance to post again every 6 months, and then go back to being banned. The only way of getting out of the ban for good is by improving the average score for your questions. So your new questions should be as good and interesting as possible, to attract votes; and you should attempt to edit your existing questions so they are of better quality and can be voted up. Your deleted questions affect this average, so you should edit those into shape if possible, and if you believe the improvement is substantial undelete or flag for undeletion. — yivi 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
@deceze if you see my questions apart from seven four questions are not answered and one is deleted by Moderator, so deleting questions which are not answered also impact? also can if i undelete them does it make impact to get out from ban? — VikaS GuttE 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MEE - Reinstate Monica
With regards to the truncation link: There's also a different styling for truncated posts between blobs and gists. (once: "This file was truncated", once "(truncated)"). This should be merged, too. — MEE - Reinstate Monica 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
I say all that to say that fundamentally, we need to rethink how we handle wrongness over time. The library has been created, now it's gotta be maintained; and that means fewer eyeballs because the answer has been around for so long. We're in the long tail of a few people seeing it, we have to have a plan for that. — George Stocker just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
Even in the category of 'wrongness', this is a special case: this is tragically wrong with real world consequences. A situation where if high rep users could vote to delete positively scored answers, it'd be a matter of drawing attention to it; but in this case we can't. We can either edit the answer (to what? To leave its wrongness? To delete its wrongness?) or we can downvote, or we can flag. we can't clean up; and since Moderators are by design not subject matter experts, they won't clean it up when they see it unless we get lucky. — George Stocker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Vika You should reread my comment. It explains what you have to do and how deleted questions affect you. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
@George I'm sure other wrongness on here has also had real world consequences. This one just happened to be widely publicised by someone competent who managed to track down the exact post that caused it. Popularity is the only thing that makes this post "special", not real-wordliness. Agreed though that we should have a better plan for this kind of case either way. — deceze ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
agreed. The original 'downvote wrong content' made sense in the beginning of an answer's lifecycle where there were a lot of views; but now we have very few visits to each question after it's been answered, causing (over time) bad answers to proliferate and lower the vaue of the site overall (and increase black-eyes). — George Stocker 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
One of the problems here is that once the answer is accepted owner cannot delete it. It can be pretty frustrating experience. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@YorSubs: Honestly, it just sounds to me like you've been reading too much click-bait Internet content. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
 
4:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Blue Water
No idea why it says New contributor. I've been on here for six years. sighBlue Water 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0012
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@TA I thought about it and I think the biggest problem is still that the new mission of SO is not clear. You said that the company does not encourage help-desk questions, my impression is they do. They company and the community should make up its minds what the further mission of SO should be and then we could work towards it. The current mission doesn't answer much. I can't even decide if I agree with it. — Trilarion 9 secs ago
 
4:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Dalgas
One nice thing about this feature is that copy / pasting of code may not be required in some cases. The onebox snippet is cached so it is captured and persisted to give a clear reference at the time the question or answer is given. Edits to the question or answer will trigger a refresh to give an opportunity to use the most up to date version from the source. As far as guidance, that may be added to as additional onebox providers are created. — Geoff Dalgas ♦ 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Dalgas
I'll look into the possibility of supporting markdown inside of the PR body. The only risk is that we are using a slightly different flavor of markdown so the render output wouldn't be a perfect 100% match, but it would be good enough. I'll look into dynamic truncation as well - that's a good idea! — Geoff Dalgas ♦ 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Dalgas
Good catch - I will modify the links for the username to reference the gist profile. — Geoff Dalgas ♦ 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Dalgas
Ah yes, we could easily support showing the line numbers somewhere in the snippet body. I'll add this to the list. — Geoff Dalgas ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rick James
@SonerGönül - I see "close as dup" to be a "consolidation" of multiple items, thereby helping focus effort into one item. But only if the items are the "same". I'll vote to reopen yours. After that, your item can be a dup of my current bug report or vice versa. — Rick James 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Don't Panic
I don't see any indication that it was ever deleted. — Don't Panic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
Why do you think that answer is deleted? — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rick James
@user4642212 - I agree with you. Soner's issue is the same as mine ("Recent fix..."), not the 3-year-old item. — Rick James 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rick James
This bug report should not be used as a dup of the Feb 2020 bug!Rick James just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ted Goas
@Berriel where would you expect to see the line numbers? — Ted Goas 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
You've asked this on the meta site - you should ask this on the main site. — Wai Ha Lee 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
The software basically decides what can be done with it and the software is completely under control of the company. Then there is the code of conduct, which the company updates regularly. With the community it's a bit more unclear. It's a bunch of individuals with some common goals and they may or may not do what the company wants. For example they may use the software in a differently than preferred by the company. Somehow both parts rely on each other and need each other and therefore the rules are determined also by the community. It's a power struggle, a bit like politics. — Trilarion 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Rick Edit the question and explain it there, instead of commenting here and pinging the question author. Thanks. — yivi 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Could we just undo the copying in of the other answer as now unnecessary duplication of content? Leave deletion to the owner. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
@Robert Harvey. Honestly, it just sounds to me like you've been just accepting everything that Social Justice demands without actually thinking about the consequences, hypocrisy and utterly incoherent and lacking in sense or reason that these "Progressive" ideas are. All US Democratic candidates now want "hate speech" laws to stop "hate". But what is "hate"? Well, it's whatever the priests of rightthink say that it is. Anything can be "hate" and you go along with it all because you think that it's "fairness". This is all woolly and faith-based as any logical/rational analysis can show. — YorSubs 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
@yivi what about edit ban? — VikaS GuttE 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The edit ban is temporary. Usually a matter of days. Frankly, I have no clue where can you get that information. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonesome Reinstate Monica
@CodyGray So suggest a better name for a tag that is understandable by those (many) of us who know that the Monica incident is one part of a larger whole, but have no idea (and never will) that "community" and "company" are tied to the larger issue. My suggestion is weak? Fine. Perhaps try to come up with a tag that has meaning (for the OP, for me, for the many who were introduced to the issue via the Monica fiasco) rather than going on a rant. But hey, it is your community. Treat it how you like to be treated. — Jonesome Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
Again I ask, can anyone detail this "colossal injustice" in simple/clear terms without obfuscation? It certainly looks like nobody can. For example, who got punched? What specific violent act was committed? What breach of contract happened? Who intimidated who and where did it happen / who witnessed it? Because without these things, it's all just hearsay and click bait, right @Robert Harvey? — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
Honestly, it just sounds to me like you've been just accepting everything that Social Justice demands -- Quite the opposite, actually. But I've learned to temper my histrionics with a bit of old-fashioned pragmatism, decorum and respect. — Robert Harvey just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
ok thank you everyone for your help, now last and final question. If you see my all deleted questions were you can find 4 questions are not answered and 2 are closed/deleted by moderator. I agree those are downvoted but I want know deleting question which are not answered also affect ban? — VikaS GuttE 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
Indeed, and we can see that in them frantically down-voting your comment. My comments have been banned as "spam" or "offensive" (talking frankly and truthfully is "offensive"... yeah, if we dare to question the Orwellian right-think of Social Justice, the ideological zealot become insane with rage. Agree that their positions are weak/incoherent. I don't know what's going on with society. We need to turn a corner away from all of this Social Justice madness (and in particular the "gender identity" madness). I hope that SE move away from appeasing Social Justice, it just encourages their rage! — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YorSubs
So you think that it's pragmatic to just let crazy people make demands of us and push their ideological authoritarianism on society? I used to appease them somewhat too, but what's going on now has gone way way beyond a joke that we can just ignore. I mean, this parasitic brain-worm is now in Codes of Conducts on technical forums!! Where does it end... They say that they are offended all the time and we have to all just roll over and appease them. You see that appeasement is what you are doing right (and what I used to do also until I realised how pernicious all of this is)? — YorSubs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@YorSubs ...I think perhaps you should read up on what exactly the "Monica" situation was about. SE management was insisting that people must use gender-neutral pronouns when referring to someone unless the person had made their preferences known. Monica had questions about how that policy would be implemented (especially in regards to a singular they). Chaos ensued. So quite the opposite of how you are portraying the situation. But, hey, if your bubble is comfortable... — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The score of all questions is taken into account. Deleted and not deleted alike. — yivi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VikaS GuttE
@deceze Regarding question ban I will take care all rules in future. You closed and marked this question as duplicate but provided link only answer question ban what about edit temporary ban, could you please help me by answering my question what is ban period for edit and how to get it out from same. Thank you for help. — VikaS GuttE 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@YorSubs: I'm really not saying any of that. What I'm saying is that fueling the ongoing moral outrage is not the way to fix things. — Robert Harvey 41 secs ago
 
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