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12:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matteo Italia
I don't think any of these points is an impossible obstacle... Wikipedia surely tackles the first two problems you cite, plus probably some form of the third, yet they manage to keep it running, reasonably fast and without ads, all through donations and voluntary work. Conceptually, a nonprofit SO/SE (meant as Q&A sites, not as their current parent company) doesn't look impossible to me. — Matteo Italia 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@MatteoItalia: Wikipedia is very straightforward to curate. Facts are facts, and there is no "ranking"; there are references to find, references to add, and trolls/griefers to deal with. The overhead turns out to be fairly low, too - the system has to be performant but doesn't have to update its state too dynamically. A Q&A site is not linear in that same capacity, and a site like Stack Overflow has a ton of additional features/functionality bolted on to it. It's not impossible, no. But it doesn't make much sense to give it away for free, either. — Makoto 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Feng
Thanks, I will change the question. — Feng 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by hotmeatballsoup
Hi everyone, what can I do to get this question re-opened? I've made several edits and believe the question is now in compliance with SO standards. Please let me know if there's anything more I can do. — hotmeatballsoup 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bergi
You can try editing the question (which bumps it to the front page again), writing a better question and explaining more clearly what you are looking for (if you're dissatisfied with something). — Bergi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
I only see one question on your account, and it has an accepted answer. Why did you accept it if it didn't satisfy you? — John Montgomery 1 min ago
 
1:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
I find this very interesting... When I stand for free speech, then many people (yivi, Martijn Pieters, and others) always claim, that there is no such thing as "Free Speech" on SE. If you do not stand for democracy and free speech, then stop whining about moderators getting fired deliberately, this is exactly where this leads to and what you ask for! — Ctx 1 min ago
 
1:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Sorry, nowhere is it said that a single good question will lift the ban. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
1:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Legorooj
Thanks for the help. The problem is that I can't fix my previous questions easily... They were asked from me when I was at the stage I thought I new everything and... I'm not like that now. Read my Qs if you want - any pointers would be helpful. — Legorooj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It is possible to ask here on Meta for help improving a specific question, but you should do so knowing that attracting that attention to your question may attract even more downvotes, so it is a gamble. — Cody Gray ♦ 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Not being a Python expert, there may not be much I can do to help you directly improve your questions. And, as a moderator, there's nothing I can do with respect to question bans/throttles. They're all implemented algorithmically, with moderators having no control or even really any visibility into the process. I don't, for example, even see how low your total quality score is. I have to just guess, based on how many downvoted questions you have. — Cody Gray ♦ 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Legorooj
@MartijnPieters thanks... Could you have a look at the questions that got my into this? They are the only ones with downvotes of course - I don't know how to improve half of them. I was a bit of an idiot in how I wrote them. — Legorooj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Legorooj
There is one specific one I'd like to ask about if you could - it's my most downvoted, but also most viewed and arguably best question. Would you mind? It's about bit size maximums... — Legorooj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yeah, I saw that one. I personally think it's a pretty low-quality question. The problem is not formatting, but runs deeper than that. This is probably something you'd need a Python expert to really help you with improving. To me, it looks like it both lacks a minimal understanding of the topic domain and lacks any evidence of research effort (two things that do tend to go hand-in-hand). As to how to fix it, I'm not sure what to recommend. My suggestion was to ask a new question on Meta. This could be used as a model of how to go about doing so. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Seems it may be a duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/818535/… or other similar questions, since it isn't actually related to Python, as far as I can tell, but just bit-manipulation, or even a fundamental understanding of how numbers are stored inside of binary computers. — Cody Gray ♦ 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
(Well... why can't I act cute to the mods?) — Maika Sakuranomiya 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Legorooj
Kinda - it's about how to a specific operation with python. I understand that point of view, but have to point out that there are many other questions that do that. Some of them have upvotes in the thousands. — Legorooj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
Well... i was trying to act cute to the mods. Why can't expand that. anime.stackexchange.com/q/56142/45359 see here. Plus, that is not even gibberish. — Maika Sakuranomiya 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It is gibberish in English. It means nothing to a Stack Overflow moderator. Even when translated via Google Translate, it still does not appear to have any meaning. It may be a term with significance in Anime, but this isn't an Anime site, and even if it were, you would still need to ask for some action to be taken as part of your flag. We are not interested in you acting cute; that is not the purpose of flags. This isn't a dating website. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
2:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
Was the answer last time not enough? — Rob ♦ 45 secs ago
 
2:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: Feng, "I'm trying to get something to work" is not a way to "show research effort". I would not recommend bringing a lot of attention to a question like you did here before fixing it up so it at least looks like one with some amount of research shown. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
3:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SecretAgentMan
After reading your user profile, I'm a bit puzzled at this. — SecretAgentMan 58 secs ago
 
4:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cœur
"The answer rate dipped badly in January 2019 for the first time": incorrect, it's a floating situation correlated to deleted unanswered 1-y old questions from the roomba job. So if you run your query in April 2020, you'll see the apparent drop in April 2019 instead of January 2019. — Cœur 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
Sorry... I forgot for a while ghat flags are not meant to act cute to the mods. Please... i apologize... forgive me and have my post deleted. — Maika Sakuranomiya 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
@SecretAgentMan - oh right!!! Sorry... I forgot for a while... i will promise to never do this again. — Maika Sakuranomiya 1 min ago
 
5:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I'll be pruning some comments here. Let's continue the discusson in The Meta Room, or Tavern on Meta SE, or Discord. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I'll be pruning some comments here. Let's continue the discusson in The Meta Room, or Tavern on Meta SE, or Discord. — Samuel Liew ♦ 34 secs ago
 
5:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@MartijnPieters FWIW they also posted an update article discussed here at MSE. "Stack Overflow makes peace with ousted moderator, wants to start New Year with 2020 vision on codes of conduct" — gnat 1 min ago
 
6:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aparente001
I can't suggest an edit (frustrating). "But when is a cause, there is a effect" -- please insert "there" after "when." — aparente001 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Post
@DavidsaysReinstateMonica It absolutely was not. Everything I wrote here was accurate when I wrote it, to the absolute best of my knowledge. Things have changed, that doesn't make me a liar, which is the implication your comment rather abruptly asserts. There are human beings on the other side of the comments you leave, please keep that in mind. — Tim Post ♦ 20 secs ago
 
6:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@GeoffGriswald - The sheer ignorance of your statement literally confounds me. He was a mod. He also essentially ran the entire team of moderators at Stack Exchange (as a whole). He also provided invaluable statistical analysis of the health of the entire Exchange. He was also instrumental in many features, both public and private, to ensure quality content was protected. He also... you know what, it doesn't matter. Someone so irrelevant as you doesn't deserve my time explaining. The next time you consider contributing anything to the site here, do some research. — Travis J 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Note that only point 3 and 4 are required. The first two are just stuff Jeff made up and are not needed to comply with the CC BY SA 4 license. — Erik A 1 min ago
 
6:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
In your profile you say "I am very sorry to the mods. I have been abusing with mod flags". Are these actions really demonstrating how much you've changed? How is this your "best behaviour"? — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
It's probably a duplicate of one of those then. How a question is received is a function of when it's asked. If you you're the first person to ask a basic question that's a lot different to being the ten-thousandth person to ask that same question. Highly upvoted basic questions tend to be either a) old (which is why they were first) or b) about a new technology (also why they were first). — Robert Longson 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Faiz Hameed
I asked the same question, I received enough of a negative rating. Could be because such a question is not entertained here — Faiz Hameed 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ward - Reinstate Monica
How can you "forgot for a while" when it's in your profile that you've done this before and been told not to do it again? — Ward - Reinstate Monica 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
This happened before my apology. I just brought this up later. — Maika Sakuranomiya 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
I'm not a mod and I remember this happening before. — Cindy Meister 13 secs ago
 
7:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bhargav Rao
They don't hate the site, they disagree with the policies which are destroying the very site in which they put in years of effort. — Bhargav Rao ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Reinstate Monica
inb4 edit war, round 2... — Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
8:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Maika better not ask for the q&a to be deleted. Might be useful in case you forget about the rules again. — yivi 1 min ago
 
9:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
@CindyMeister when? Give me a link. — Maika Sakuranomiya 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Maika better not ask for the q&a to be deleted. Might be useful in case you forget about the rules again. And once more; you have absolutely no activity in Stack Overflow. Why frequent this meta and raise flags at all? Unless I’m mistaken, this site does not appear to be your cup of tea — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Also, exact duplicate of your post on Meta Music Fans. — Andrew T. 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
(ㅡ1) this is no good answer. — Maika Sakuranomiya 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
-|-1 because this is awesome!!! :D — Maika Sakuranomiya 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maika Sakuranomiya
➕1 THIS IS A GREAT ANSWER WITH SO MANY DOWNVOTESMaika Sakuranomiya 1 min ago
 
10:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Signs point to yes. I guess the argument would be that Google PageSpeed Insights is a tool primarily used by programmers, but I'm not sure that's even true. Search-engine optimization is outside of Stack Overflow's scope. Google's own page that you linked to is not sufficiently descriptive of their own product for me to be able to tell exactly what it does, unfortunately. — Cody Gray ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Legorooj your score is around 0.2, you need 0.5 to be out of the quality-ban. — rene 5 secs ago
 
 
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12:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
I will delete this question and answer in a day or so — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@hotmeatballsoup: thank you for your update. The question is now an [mre], and I will try to update my answer. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
 
 
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1:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
Uhh, why has this been re-opened? It's basically "Should a coding Q&A site that's not Stack Overflow be run as a non-profit" which is not even remotely on-topic here! — Rob 18 secs ago
 
2:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mat
Write the one you feel is simplest. Ask on SO if you get stuck. Then go to codereview.stackexchange.com to get feedback once it works. Repeat with the other solutions as needed. You'll then have practical, personal experience on all and you'll be able to make the best choice for your context. — Mat 27 secs ago
 
2:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
Just apropos of your 7th bullet point... I lost interest in contributing to SO in a substantial way after my early experiences of having questions silently downvoted and locked for "not being real". Actual text used in the lock message. The look down ones nose at Windows users ruled here for a time, and while I don't doubt their expertise, their manner was horrendous. This is not a defence for the actions of SO in relation to Monica. Any thing but. But I am a little bit sympathetic with SO having an... ambition... to try and make the place more friendly for the smelly riff-raff. — Stumbler 30 secs ago
 
 
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5:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
To become less angry or excited. — yivi 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wasif Hasan
No I have already visited that I need to know what is the definition for "cooling down"? — Wasif Hasan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
When I have difficulties with English expressions, it sometimes helps me to search the expression I'm having difficulties with in a search engine. It's usually easy to find a definition. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wasif Hasan
You are really misunderstanding it. I want to know what is "suspension for cooling down". The English meaning is clear to me, I want to know what type of suspension it is and what are the indications of it. Please help me if you can. — Wasif Hasan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wasif Hasan
Thank you for your prompt reply. — Wasif Hasan just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Someone gets angry or too excited. Then they are suspended so hopefully during the suspension time they can become less angry or excited, by virtue of forcefully disengaging from whatever was making them angry or excited. I'm sorry but I'm not able to help you any further. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Thanks for posting a reasonable answer. I was starting to get excitable myself. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@yivi it are excitable times ... — rene 1 min ago
 
6:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
And in that ask ubunbtu case: just leave it for a 2K-er to fix. You don't want to mess with workarounds if your edit needs to go through a review queue — rene 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Or... I can see plenty in that question that could improved past the 6 character limit. — yivi 1 min ago
 
6:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Just a learner
Thanks for your answer! I agree with you. But I'm not a native English speaker and I need to read really carefully to catch all these:-) In fact, I skimmed that answer really quickly and I only found that one... — Just a learner 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Just a learner
Please don't dislike my question. In fact, I searched before asking this question. But I didn't find anything related. — Just a learner 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by laticoda
-3, seriously ; thanks for t he link @dbc — laticoda 1 min ago
 
7:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bergi
The last diagram seems to be the most relevant and significant. Could you move that to the top maybe? — Bergi 1 min ago
 
7:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
Gaining reputation for 'serving the community' (such as review queues, flags, etc.) is a topic that comes up not infrequently here on Meta. While it may seem nice to offer 'small' rewards (say, + 50 rep for every 1,000 reviews), would we then need to 'punish' (-50 rep) those who fail audits and get review-banned? It's a can of worms that, IMHO, should be left securely unopened. — Adrian Mole 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
I have spent countless hours on this over the years, posted dozens of times, analyzing the same data relations, even talking with Shog about what it all means, where it all came from, and how to make it better. Sorry that all you get is a comment, but I can't even right now as far as mustering a decades old research answer. There isn't just one facet to this. Many of the issues highlighted do play a roll. However, the end result is that quality is declining. Compared to the beginning, experts who ask questions now is absurd. That is what needs fixing, if you think that quality is a problem. — Travis J 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by miken32
Someone deleted the comments on that question, so it's gone now. I agree that Roomba should be way more proactive. — miken32 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
I would argue we address that issue by tuning the close reasons to allow for questions which experts would actually like to ask, which would be widely accepted by the community, but which are currently prevented due to close reasons not even meant for that type of post. — Travis J 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
We don't want you to skim really quickly. — Robert Longson 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
You're welcome :-) — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Just a learner
I accept your suggestion. Thank you! — Just a learner 1 min ago
 
8:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Why do you even ask that here? That happend on askubuntu, so either ask there or on MSE because that's a global rule. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Has QUIT--Anony-Mousse
The last one is least related to the current resignations (because as mentioned, the January data point is not reliable yet). It rather shows that in 2014 something changed, discussed before here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/320223/…Has QUIT--Anony-Mousse 54 secs ago
 
8:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
She was fired due to something she said in private communication with the company regarding the new rules on personal pronouns. The company said they had good reason to believe that she would not enforce/follow the rules based on what she said. Monica says this isn’t true. Neither side has posted a transcript of that conversation. — BSMP 19 secs ago
 
9:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
Does this answer your question? Review ban progressive systemgnat 1 min ago
 
9:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
You didn't mention to search on Stack Overflow first (before asking) for similar problems/error messages/concepts. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
Not the best choice for an audit, IMHO! — Adrian Mole 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
We need the positive stories, not just the negative ones. Thanks for reminding us all. Can someone forward this question to the appropriate SE staff (that may not see it otherwise). — Peter Mortensen 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dbc
Posts to use for review audits are selected algorithmically using a fairly primitive algorithm, see How Are Review Audit Posts Selected. I agree that's a bad post to use for an audit review, in fact it's questionable whether it should have been deleted. — dbc 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dbc
If you want to dispute a specific review audit, you can tag your question with disputed-review-audits. — dbc 31 secs ago
 
10:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiny Giant
I don't see how that question is opinion based. Maybe worded poorly, but not opinion based. Try "How can I go about continuously observing the position of a DOM element?" as your questions statement. — Tiny Giant 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tiny Giant
Simple, don't ask which option to choose, ask how to accomplish the task and let others answer with the how. Asking which is the best way is inherently primarily opinion based unless you have some sort of metric for which would be the best way, in which case you could probably evaluate that by yourself. — Tiny Giant 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Roberto Caboni: There are plenty of quiet corners on Stack Overflow (away from the popular tags with easy questions) where, given enough effort, it is possible to earn a lot of $rep. And as FGITW is much less of an issue, it is also possible to provide comprehensive answers of lasting value. Even with late answers. — Peter Mortensen 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Roberto Caboni: There are plenty of quiet corners on Stack Overflow (away from the popular tags with easy questions) where, given enough effort, it is possible to earn a lot of $rep. And as FGITW is much less of an issue, it is also possible to provide comprehensive answers of lasting value (the whole point of Stack Overflow), not playing the guessing game with one-line answers. Even with late answers. — Peter Mortensen 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flame
I've changed the tags and voted to reopen this issue. — Flame 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
This possible outcome is not an unrealistic one, quite possible in fact. But you do realise the way it is written can get you suspended, right? — Peter Mortensen 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@ivan_pozdeev: Agreed. I have tried the same, using Stack Overflow as a research tool and low-quality posts drown out useful content. Hopefully, they will come to their senses and open a helpdesk part of Stack Overflow, instead of trying to stuff everything into the same bucket. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Legorooj
@RobertLongson thx for the feedback and I checked all of those questions and they don't really answer mine. — Legorooj 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@ivan_pozdeev: Agreed. I have tried the same, using Stack Overflow as a research tool and low-quality posts drown out useful content. Hopefully, they will come to their senses and open a helpdesk part of Stack Overflow to relieve the tension with beginners (and thus repair the public image), instead of opening the floodgates even more and trying to stuff everything into the same bucket (and trying to change users). — Peter Mortensen 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Qwertiy
@TinyGiant, that means I should remove ideas about solutions? Do you really think, it will make the question better? — Qwertiy just now
 

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