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12:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marvin
Maybe if they have a quote that "looks like" an error message, it does not alert them — Marvin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
Personally, that title screams "primarily opinion-based." — TheWanderer 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
Hard to tell from what you're saying. Is your question mostly/all code? — Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
What is the exact error message that you are getting? There is a quality filter that is designed to keep out low-quality questions. One of the things it looks at is the ratio of code to non-code. If you just dump 90% code with no explanation, then that's not a good question, and not going to go over well. I can't tell much from your screenshot, but it looks like that may be the case here. Sharing the exact error message with us will allow us to give you more specific guidance. As would sharing the exact text of the question that you're trying to post. (Now that you're on Meta, edit it in.) — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@TaylorS Just FYI: Moderators can't lift question or answer bans. Those are fully automatic. If there's been serial voting that hasn't been automatically reverted within 48 hours—there's a script that runs every 24 hours—, then you should raise a custom moderator flag, or use the "contact us" link at the bottom of each page. For more information about question and answer bans, please see: What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”?Makyen 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by muhammad tayyab
Sad decision and good luck for your next journey :) — muhammad tayyab 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
if conversations start to take an aggressive turn, disengage and flag for moderator attention. — TheWanderer 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Albuquerque
Closing the question because it is "primarily opinion-based" is totally fine - it ok for a question to be flagged as such as it should be closed if it is so. My issue is (1) am I breaking any community rule and (2) were the comments and their responses appropriate by both sides? I'm asking this because I was unhappy with the way the comments went and I wish to avoid that kind of discussion in the future. — Albuquerque 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The question is not really on-topic for Stack Overflow. We don't do "best practices"-style questions; they don't really fit our format. See linked duplicates for an explanation. If you have an issue with a comment, you should flag it for moderator attention. One of them that you flagged was inappropriate, so I have deleted it. The other one, well, I don't see it as being unfriendly or unkind. It is making a recommendation that you look into other Stack Exchange sites like Code Review or Software Engineering, where your question may be more on-topic. — Cody Gray ♦ 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
I see a stray } in between the code blocks, so the code formatting is almost certainly wrong. Hard to say if that's the problem without more details though. — John Montgomery 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@Script47 Actually, you're most likely talking about an API key. A token is a different thing wrt. the SE API. API keys are obtained by the app/script author on Stack Apps. Tokens are obtained for the user and app/script combination through an OAuth2 flow. Without an API key, there are 300 requests/24 hour period/IP address. With an API key, there are 10k requests/24 hour period/IP address (both quotas shared with everything from that IP address). With a token, that app & user has 10k requests/24 hour period. See: api.stackexchange.com/docs/throttleMakyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Albuquerque
@CodyGray your comment with the duplicate backing links answers my question pretty well. Next time I will avoid asking "best practice" questions on Stack Overflow and to simply report and wait if I think something is "rude and inappropriate". Thanks for you attention. Additionally, I believe the question should then be closed under "primarily opinion-based" and not "too broad". — Albuquerque 1 min ago
 
1:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Happy to swap around the close reason. Considered doing it the first time, but generally we don't worry too much about it. The distinction between "primarily opinion-based" and "too broad" is quite fuzzy anyway---there's naturally a lot of overlap. The reason we don't allow "primarily opinion-based" questions is because they are almost always "too broad". :-) Anyway, done now. Flags are indeed the best way to get a moderator's attention, but please beware that this is a huge site with a relatively small number of mods, so it may take some time before we get to handling them. We will, though! — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
1:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
But the answer was a guess, it should not have been posted, the question should have been commented on for clarification & close voted, guesses are not answers that should restrict a question from being clarified or deleted, you should delete or edit your question if/when you think it doesn't answer the question--which it never did, because the "question" was not clear. — philipxy 46 secs ago
 
2:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Also, see that place where right now it says “enter image description here”? When you edit your question, actually enter a description of the image there. — Heretic Monkey 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
"I've looked at almost all of the regex solutions on StackOverflow submitted within the last 10 years": there are 400k+ answers. You've been there a month. Sorry it's not just possible. You appear like you know everything on regex. If the solutions are wrong, then write your own ones. There are 200k open regex questions, so adding a proper answer on each one and getting one vote gets you 2 million rep. I don't see the problem then — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stephen C
Indeed, the idea that there is (or should be) a single "correct" closure reason is a bit unrealistic. Questions are often "closable" for a variety of reasons. Especially questions that are egregiously bad. — Stephen C 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@x15 You claim, "It is an art that custom crafts a solution to search and manipulate text. Solutions cant be collected and used as a menu to order pies. It can't be pigeon holed and reused." If that's truly the case, then regex questions would indeed be off-topic for Stack Overflow. This isn't a "give me teh codez" site; we don't write custom, one-off solutions for everyone. Rather, this is like an encyclopedia or wiki, where we are developing a library of high-quality answers to commonly-asked programming questions. If there's nothing general or reusable in regex answers, that's very sad. — Cody Gray ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"Write a regex for me" questions are very likely to be closed. That is how it should be. That's not the purpose of this site. What are not closed are general, reference-style questions about regular expressions, and those still merit the [regex] tag. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Ericson
@TylerH: Our early results suggest that the review step is very nearly as effective as the ask wizard. It might be worth looking at whether the benefit is primarily to people new to the site or if it's a universal sort of thing. Maybe we can save people a step if there's strong statistical evidence it wouldn't help. — Jon Ericson ♦ 36 secs ago
 
3:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
"it would beneficial for community to switch accepted answer" only OP can switch accepted answers. One would expect users with your reputation to know that. — Braiam 11 secs ago
 
 
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4:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
The bounty setter is already penalized by having their offered rep disappear forever. It's already their loss if they don't get back to you for the rest of the bounty period. If your answer isn't getting any feedback from anyone during the bounty period... that's unfortunate, given that bountied questions ought to receive more attention (but I know that they suffer from a problem where the traffic doesn't really pour in until the last couple of days). — BoltClock ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@BoltClock I totally agree. But in my case, i didn't get opportunity to know my mistakes or improve my answer if required. I don't know how future visitor will believe about answer without OP's response. — PraveenKumar Lalasangi 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
You haven't invested any differently on a bounty question than you would have on a question without a bounty. So how you respond to this should be the same as how you would respond if your answer to any other question didn't get any feedback from the asker. Granted, you might have put a little more effort than usual into your answer... — BoltClock ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@BoltClock Yes, i haven't invested any extra time for bountied question, because Either it may be bountied or normal, I will simulate, address the issue, test it and post the answer. It will not take much time for me as i have lot of ready to test template projects in my workspace. No worries. But as SO has grown up, IMHO there was chance of improving quality of content if OPs response was there. What my answer looks to me is Just a Content without any feedbackPraveenKumar Lalasangi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe the transgirl
Feedback on anything is never required, and will never be. — Zoe the transgirl 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@Zoe It might be your opinion. have look here it is clearly mentioned that If someone posts an answer, be ready to try it out and provide feedback!PraveenKumar Lalasangi 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe the transgirl
No, that's not my opinion. That's a fact based on the way the system is built. That's still not a requirement, that's a best practice. How on Earth do you expect it to be enforced anyway? What about questions with tens of answers? It's not practical — Zoe the transgirl 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Moon
yeah. I want to say 'broad' or 'lack of research'! Above answers & comments clear my doubts as well. Thanks! — Moon 1 min ago
 
5:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user1725145
Coerced speech is beyond "change, disappointment and adjustment". If it was just a bunch of people accusing each other of being cliquey or the website Not Being What It Used To Be, I'd be saying "yeah, yeah" and watching from the sidelines without changing my behaviour. The principles enshrined in the FAQ and aggressively promoted by SE however would have a profound negative effect on me in real life now, every day. If these principles became law in a country where Monica was an SE employee, she would have been sacked. If you don't stand up for freedom of conscience, who will protect yours? — user1725145 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@Zoe it is not about practical vs impractical but it looks like quality vs quantity. It is about enforcing responsibility of OP. How on Earth do you expect running away from responsibility? Might be you have not read my question clearly. After OPs question there is no single comment by OP. Forget about tens of answer to questions which are not generic usage. My point is clear, enforce OP's responsibility if you need quality. It is not about reputation it is all about feedback. — PraveenKumar Lalasangi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
@PraveenKumarLalasangi The bounty doesn't mean your answer isn't good enough, and has nothing to do with "Visitor during bounty period may not able to judge answer.", why does it matter if visitors aren't able to judge your answer? The bounty is to get more answers. Hence the bounty reason was "This question has not received enough attention."Nick A the Popcorn King 1 min ago
 
6:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shinjo
does "lack of research" reason apply to when they found reference on other site and not on SO? — Shinjo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
A chat score of -11 is reasonable good I would say, given your chat habits ;) — rene 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
So we should send moderators round to peoples houses? Or take legal action in every case? What if they are dead? Do we make their relatives take over. Enforcing action really isn't tenable. — Robert Longson 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@NickAthePopcornKing You misunderstood question context, to make it clear edited question. — PraveenKumar Lalasangi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
@PraveenKumarLalasangi I wasn't answering the question, that's why I posted a comment, the answer to your question: "Is it wrong to expect feedback from OP?" is yes. — Nick A the Popcorn King 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@RobertLongson you made my day :D — PraveenKumar Lalasangi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TelKitty
Wot? I am the sweetest and most obedient Telkitty I have known of, always in the top 100% of users. @rene — TelKitty 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
@Nick Then you need to read help center content You are saying help center is wrong. — PraveenKumar Lalasangi 1 min ago
 
6:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
@PraveenKumarLalasangi I didn't say it was wrong, I'm just saying you shouldn't expect it, just simply be prepared to act on it. — Nick A the Popcorn King 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
More specifically, it is a set of recommendations for question askers, to help ensure that they get the best answer possible. It is not a set of requirements, or things that answerers should expect. Ultimately, Stack Overflow is not a help desk. We are not here to answer questions for individual people. We're here to build a library of high-quality answers to programming questions. — Cody Gray ♦ 32 secs ago
 
7:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
What's SOCVR though? — einpoklum 1 min ago
 
7:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@FélixGagnon-Grenier you can't on SO, not with humor, not without. Someone's (lack of) math skills are personal, we don't do personal. Comments are reserved for dealing with content, not people. That does not change anything about how overblown this entire deal is though. Its an unwanted comment, it should be deleted and that's the end of it. — Gimby 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Sorry, but I don't think this is on-topic anywhere on the Stack Exchange network. Certainly not here. — Erik A 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
I don't think there is anywhere in Stack Exchange you could ask this. You're asking us to find something online for you that isn't software or hardware, there's no site that allows that kind of question. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
 
7:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by x15
I think that about sums it up fella's 200k open regex questions, whatever open means, that are all reference quality, waiting to be answered by an expert, me, to construct a library of high-quality answers. Trouble is, that version is not the way Regex works, never has and never will. — x15 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
If you want some kind of certification from Siemens maybe your best bet is contacting Siemens. — ivarni 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ellie Kesselman
@Makoto In your comment, you actually said that "it does seem like the high rep users are going to be upset about this. That's fine". You have made a profoundly negative observation about the entire raison d'etre of SO. The voluntary contributions of our high rep users are precious. It can never be "fine" to implement policy that makes high rep users upset, thus disinclined to participate in the future... unless, well, you are saying the rep is not an indicator of meritocratic value. Which is it: rep is meaningless or knowledge is of secondary importance on SO? — Ellie Kesselman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
Given that the OP won't contact the community team directly, nor respond to the substantial and considered answers below, it feels like closing this is appropriate. I am happy to leave it open if the OP is willing to engage. — halfer 5 secs ago
 
8:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
Possible duplicate of How to withdraw the bounty?Ivar 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
They would down vote it. — greg-449 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
From How does the bounty system work?: "Can I cancel my bounty?... If you feel there are exceptional circumstances, flag the question for moderator attention to explain the situation." — Ivar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JAD
@einpoklum SOCVRJAD 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
They might also add their own answer. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
It takes quite a number of mouse clicks to add a bounty, how did you do all of them "accidentally" ? — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by honk
By the way, it seems that all of your code has already been proposed in other answers. What was you motivation to add yet another answer? — honk 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sayse
You've answered a 9 year old question with an answer very similar to the one that was already accepted. I don't understand what you're asking here — Sayse 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Yul
@honk I am trying involved into the community, It is what I thought and it is the first answer. — John Yul 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Yul
@Sayse I didn't know that. And as mentioned above I am trying involved into the community, It is what I thought and it is the first answer. — John Yul 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gourav
But that's not accepted here on Stack overflow. If you see a similar answer previously posted than yours, remove your answer and upvote the previous one. Don't post duplicate answers. If you do that in excess, your account will be banned — Gourav just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sayse
There are plenty of new questions that are looking for answers or flags to duplicates. There is no need to answer questions that have already been answered unless your answer offers something the other answers dont — Sayse 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sayse
@Gourav - You won't be banned for posting duplicate answers unless plagiarism is involved. — Sayse 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
This is moving towards a bad first experience on Stack Overflow... Sorry about that. I would recommend that you take the tour and read through the help center before you continue to try and participate on Stack Overflow. There are quite some rules and regulations that we all need to follow which you will learn about in those resources. The question you found unfortunately is an older question, older questions do not always set good examples. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Yul
@Sayse Got it, I haven't realized how old the question is. It is a first attempt here to try to answer the question. Because I met a related question and searched on google and find it. What I answered is also what I use in my code.And what I want to mention is that maybe not only open and just use the file but also need to mention the difference with the "print". In summary, first I explain what I did here, second I am trying to involve, third I am not confidence about my answer that's why I write question in meta. fourth now I know the rules here. — John Yul 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Yul
@Gimby Thank you so much for you advise.I have had the account for years but just search.It was the first time I was trying to do something to contribute to community, it is somehow a little bit depressed before your comment since no one cares about the propose or what you did. I will read the guideline, thank you again. — John Yul 50 secs ago
 
9:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
John, a couple of times you mention what you posted is "the first answer". You might get that impression because Stack Overflow can sort answers by three different criteria: Active, Oldest, Votes. If you're viewing answers sorted by "Active" then yours would be the first one listed, but that does not mean it was the first one submitted. That you'd see by sorting on "oldest". In order to see the answer others found most helpful, you'd sort on "Votes". Enjoy interacting with the site :-) — Cindy Meister 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sayse
@CindyMeister - They mean it was the first answer they had posted. — Sayse 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Yul
@CindyMeister Thank you, I have noticed that the first time here. I had a question like why some answers with low votes can get the first place.Now the question is gone. — John Yul 14 secs ago
 
9:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TiiJ7
According to the answer here you should be able to use either the language code or the name of a tag. So this may be a bug? — TiiJ7 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
@halfer The OP did comment on some answers... — user202729 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
I guess they would delete the other comment if you simply raise a custom flag explaining why you feel that comment is (or can be perceived as) harassment. As some other moderator said here, they thought it's just a harmless joke... — user202729 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@TiiJ7 that certainly feels like a huge oversight, I’ve set it to lang-js now. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@T.J.Crowder: Tagging with javascript used to set the default “best effort” highlighter. Using <!— language: [tagname] —> on the other hand will never fall back to the default highlighter, so you end up with nothing. I’ve now set the tag to use lang-js. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TaylorS
@Makyen Honestly its more about the CONCEPT of question banning. People wonder why SO is slightly losing popularity to newcomers; Its because people downvote these "newbie's" questions so horrifically, that the person is banned before they even get a chance to start over and make a new question. I actually originally had a different account, but because I got question banned on my first question, I had to restart, its been nearly a year since, and im banned again already... — TaylorS 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TaylorS
Listen, I understand some people aren't good questionnaire's or whatnot, but that doesnt mean we should be banning them left and right because we dont like the way they are. Instead teach them, help them become better at it rather than trying to get rid of them. — TaylorS 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@TaylorS The situation is complex. While things can change to make SO more welcoming, the model you suggest has been demonstrated to be a failure on multiple sites. Stack Overflow's goal isn't to help the question asker. The goal is to build a repository of programming questions and answers which are helpful to future readers. In order for the site to be successful, quality must be maintained. That requires removing questions not meeting the standards and banning users. I'm happy to discuss it further, but this isn't the place to do so. Let's not hijack this question for such a discussion. — Makyen 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Note that right now using javascript still doesn’t give you highlighted text; I’m hoping that that’s just because a cache layer somewhere needs to clear still. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
11:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by meJustAndrew
It is such a shame that these issues still make elected moderators leave the community... I wish somebody could give more details of what happens behind the scene — meJustAndrew 1 min ago
 
12:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by immibis
Then why is the flag called "very low quality" and not called "unidentifiable garbage"? — immibis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
SO has a help page where you can find explanations for stuff: stackoverflow.com/help/search?q=community+wikiTom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vivek Mishra
@Tom thanks for that link — Vivek Mishra 1 min ago
 
12:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@user202729: sure, but that is not the same as being a willing participant in a discussion. — halfer 22 secs ago
 
12:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@thebjorn what if they know about your background we are going far into this analogy, adding pieces that have nothing to do with it. Martijn knows about OP's math issues? No? Then let's not make it a point of contention here. — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@immibis good question. Might be worth discussing — Jonas Wilms 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Programmer000
Full error message during build fail: — Programmer000 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sid
That's not what I asked... I can see it without the required reputation, that's the question. — Sid 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Duplicate closure on Stack Overflow and meta work based on the answer(s), not on the question asked. The answer on the linked duplicate does indeed answer your question, since it's all part of the same experiment documented there. — Gimby 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
Yes I have applied for reinstatement. Thank you for being just, as I have taken some extremely unpopular stances on MSE and here lately. — Yvette Colomb 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PraveenKumar Lalasangi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TelKitty
Why has the 'chat' tag been chosen as the tag badge to track? — TelKitty 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
@ErikA yes, I applied to be reinstated. — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Reinstate Monica
Best of luck @YvetteColomb, I just hope everyone gets an equally fair crack of the whip. Things haven't been very "just" lately. — Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
@ReinstateMonica it's been a nightmare. Honestly. I'm coming back, as I still believe in the people on the site, including the general user base, the other mods and the CMs. I'm taking a stand to say I believe there's a future for this site. sigh I have no problem with the defence of Monica, just not at the expense of others. — Yvette Colomb 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Shinjo What do you mean by 'finding reference'? — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ed Plunkett
@CodyGray As a guideline then, just say "have a nice day" and end the conversation? — Ed Plunkett 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
I can prove anything by statistics except the truth. -- George CanningAmit Joshi 1 min ago
 
1:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@AlexeiLevenkov A better system than life-time appointment for judges is one that not only allows for impeachment of them at any time (e.g. the US system), but also simply limits their terms to a longer period than a typical election cycle (see: the Federal Reserve, also Tim's? John's? a CM's post on MSE a while back about possibly instituting term limits for moderators). — TylerH 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@ReinstateMonica Your comment is not correct. Moderators going on extended hiatus normally retain moderator status while away. — TylerH 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
I'm going to guess it was plagiarized from here and that has something to do with it. — ivarni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
I don't agree with the suggestion to go and post late answers on the best questions with score > 500. Too many users don't have the good enough judgement about whether they are contributing something new/useful, and the majority of time late answers on such highly scored questions just add to the tail of crap (or worse, the answerer didn't even bother to review existing answers first). — wim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
That answer has the command itself (already given by other answers), a link to their own github repo (the repo has the same name as the author, so affiliation is implicit, but should be made explicit) and a large portion copy and pasted from another site, without marking that text as quote. Is all that really useful? — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Raedwald
That post had only one upvote, so arguably not "very good". — Raedwald 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
Don't remove the regex tag. Some people use it to avoid seeing regex tagged questions. — wim 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-Fran&#231;ois Fabre
@wim and I personally never do that. But if a super-expert discovers stackoverflow, they may add something new. Else, moderators are here to delete duplicates/low quality answers. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TRiG
You need to (a) use code formatting for code, so it looks right, and (b) also include some text explaining your problem, so it's not just a code dump. If you're doing both those things right, the question should go through. — TRiG 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by frogatto
@ivarni Yes, it's mostly copy&paste. I didn't noticed. — frogatto 32 secs ago
 
2:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xdtTransform
Do we have to change people name and company name? — xdtTransform 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by apaul
@MrLister They have. You should change with them. — apaul 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
That leads into a separate discussion on how the question should be marked. It was NOT off-topic. It was a legitimate C++ question. There needs to a clear distinction when the only thing wrong is the language spoken by OP, with an easy re-direct to the correct SO site. Even the description of the unclear tag (how the question I'm referring to was marked) is nebulous. — sweenish 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
@TylerH the main reason for posting it, was the level of abuse I was getting in the form of people telling me to take a break. "you said you were on a break - take a break" and other comments. They were not polite and I'd receive many such comments under posts and in chat. This post was to put an end to all that. — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henke
@Heretic Monkey et al, thanks for your edits. This comment does not ask for clarification or point out problems in the post. I may decide to delete it within a few days or weeks. Thanks also for your comment. — Henke 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr Lister
@apaul Not gonna change my user name. — Mr Lister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Draken
You've posted on the wrong site, you should have posted the questions here: stackoverflow.comDraken 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by apaul
@MrLister You were never asked to. Is reading comprehension not your thing? — apaul 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
That link reinforces what I commented earlier. "very low quality" or "not an answer" just because it's in a foreign language? That's BS. As was made abundantly clear, the big reason is people not knowing what's being said. But that cuts both ways. You don't know it's a "very low quality" answer or question if you can't speak the language. There simply needs to be a "wrong language" reason with easy re-directs to the correct language. I bet it wouldn't even be too tough to just move the question. — sweenish 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@sweenish: The concern is also that op would not understand an English answer anyway. There is also no problem with leaving a comment linking to the appropriate page (maybe even in op's language if you're able to write it). Specific redirects would only work for languages where a language SO exists though. — BDL 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IAmFrenk
Oops, my bad. Will post on the correct site and than delete this post. — IAmFrenk 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John M. Wright
Thanks for reporting this. I've added it to our investigation list. — John M. Wright 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
And now you're side-stepping my actual question. — sweenish 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Why don't we just delete the slightly unfriendly comment if it isn't already removed and move on? — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
A post that is not in English, posted to an English-only site, is not understandable. A question that is not understandable is of low quality. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
It helps your case here when you start watching your mouth (hands). Edit comments like "BS dupe" and the addition to your question title are neither helpful nor useful. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
A question not in English is, by definition, off-topic. It can't both be valid and not in English. — fbueckert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
About the edit: A question in any other language than English is off-topic on SO. No matter what it talks about or how good the quality of the question is in that language. It might be a good question somewhere else (ru.SO, es.SO, pt.SO) but not on SO. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Draken
Question migration is not an easy thing and can cause confusion. Unless people are 100% sure and it's a migration that needs to happen often, they tend to not allow the question migration. If you feel the need is there, then feel free to raise a feature request in the meta and the community will vote on if they feel it's a worthwhile. There is always inconsistency between what some people say and others do, not everyone is up to date on how the rules work or what's best practice. Answers in comments are frowned upon because comments are often likely to disappear. It won't help future readers. — Draken 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
Except I understood it? I get the majority rule thing, but people here are latching on to the wrong topics. Here's what I want: either all these high point people legitimately crack down on answers in comments, or explain why this one in particular was so much worse. — sweenish 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr Lister
@apaul I'm not sure I follow; you said I should change. That what were you suggesting I change? — Mr Lister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
I've flagged to have this deleted. I'm inclined to agree it serves no helpful purpose, but is just fueling more debate. — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by apaul
Looks a lot more like you're concern trolling. Poorly. @MrLister — apaul 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
Some other things you can do: this answer needs an explanation as to how or why it solves the problem. This needs it even more, and also needs formatting. — Robert Columbia 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
If it's a bad question, you can down vote it or improve it. If it's not useful to others, vote to close it. Being self-answered doesn't absolve a question of being bad. — khelwood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
@Tom, the original edit to change my title was neither helpful nor useful, and grammatically incorrect. The suggested dupe is BS. It's nowhere near what I'm asking. Reading my question would have told anyone that much. I also think higher-ups need to consider their definitions better. The question was NOT off-topic. That's probably the worst choice. — sweenish 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Look, what sort of response are you expecting to get, here? Are you trying to get clarification on the current policy, change it, rail against it, or what? Your actions are counterproductive for any meaningful action to be taken; you're just hardening resistance against your stance. You can argue against the duplicate if you want, but calling it BS isn't going to do anything but ensure those that disagree vote to close it. — fbueckert 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@JonEricson So the review step is not just a review step, but a multi-step wizard-like process? — TylerH 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
@TylerH but only when the OP speaks a different language, in my experience. Because I see it on the daily, as do the same people who brigaded my post. — sweenish 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Treat it like any other bad question. It really doesn't matter who answered a question here, self-answering doesn't exempt the question from being moderated. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kemicofa
Would it be ironic if he answered his own question? — kemicofa 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thorbj&#248;rn Ravn Andersen
I was wondering about why this is so clearly very, very important to SE? Is this personally relevant to anybody? — Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
I don't flag questions as off-topic or unclear because I'm unfamiliar with the library or specific principle being asked. In the same vein I don't go after answers because they use code with which I'm unfamiliar. Maybe I should start brigading comments that offer solutions in comments, though. What I'm learning is that SO flags are severely deficient in at least one key area. And we enforce violations to the extreme when people talk differently. — sweenish 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Yes, they are frowned upon. — TylerH 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@sweenish It's unclear to me what you're referring to re: language. My comment is purely in response to the title of this question. Comments are not for answers, no matter who tells you otherwise. — TylerH 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aloisdg
@NickReed dont loose to much of your time with the question. With the meta effect, I am confident to say that the question is going to be closed soon. — aloisdg 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
@fbueckert An actual answer to the question I asked. Not an unrelated dupe and people just parroting broken definitions at me. If answers in comments are verboten, why do I see it every single day, just as often as not? Why did people decide it was super unacceptable just because OP wasn't speaking English? Because that was the only differentiator. — sweenish 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Reed
Alright, thank you all for the input; if I think I can help the question, I'll edit it, and if not, I'll vote to close it. — Nick Reed 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
"unless it's really relevant" That's the point. It does matter if an opinion on LGBTQ+ issues is coming from a queer person as opposed to someone who is not, because queer people are queer and can provide a firsthand perspective in much the same way as your maintainer example. The fact that there is a user card at all - that the poster is attributed at all - means that posts are never truly anonymous, especially if their main account, especially if it's well-established on this site, uses a common persona they use elsewhere. — BoltClock ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
The post is nothing but a copy from the linked pages; it was deleted as part of a series of such posts, so I didn't leave a comment on each and every one of them. It will not be un-deleted. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Then...maybe lay off the charged language? You're arguing with everyone who's trying to tell you how SO works, and you're ignoring and challenging it. Nobody's going to attempt to help or answer your specific question if you ignore what everyone's already telling you. — fbueckert 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@Tom: it's a link to a gist, not a git repository, and was added after creating the initial plagiarised post. That section didn't add value to the answer in my view, certainly not enough to excuse that the rest is all just copied. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
The thing is I have heard these definitions. I very clearly disagreed with them early on. But all that's happening is people repeating them. Should I just circle back and keep re-posting my disagreement as well? I'm also very clearly saying that how SO works is broken in a very specific case. And it's very clear that people have no interest in making any kind of change. — sweenish 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
I was posting a detailed answer to your question, but it got closed. Oh, well. — Robert Harvey 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@Tom: nope, not arguing either way, just correcting a minor detail. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@MartijnPieters You're arguing like I were against your decision, I'm not. I agree with you there. The (later added) link to their github account (I don't bother if it is a gist or a repo, it is a link to their github space and affiliation should be mentioned explicitly) just adds another reason why this answer isn't useful. — Tom 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SQLiteNoob
I think a new community will need to be created. — SQLiteNoob 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
I'd have been willing if the explanations were more than just repeating the definitions I disagree with. If you present nothing new to me, what is there to be open about? — sweenish 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Note that the content on Stack Overflow is licensed under CC-by-SA 4.0, so you could host the content on your own blog or website if you felt it was so valuable that it needed to be preserved on the open internet. You just need to give attribution. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Well, making that change requires an open mind that, perhaps, the system isn't actually broken? You don't have to agree with the policy provided, but it doesn't help to just say you disagree with it; it essentially writes off any argument to the contrary and doesn't show a willingness to engage with disagreement, and perhaps be willing to change your mind. — fbueckert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@MartijnPieters Oh ok, accepted :). Then I really just misinterpreted your comment. — Tom 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
@RobertHarvey I would still be interested to read your answer if it makes sense as a wiki or edit to existing wiki. — sweenish 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
That's temporary, not a bug, there is a voting experiment going on. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@MartijnPieters Since you're a mod, can you delete the last comments starting with my "You're arguing like I were against your decision, I'm not." ... that subject was just a misunderstanding and these three comments are kind of obsolete now. Thank you. — Tom 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
If you're unwilling to accept what already exists...why should anyone pay any mind to your disagreement? It's a circular argument that nothing productive happens. With that, I'm also done. A conversation requires people talking to each other, not at each other. — fbueckert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
OMFG. I get blocked from answering, and you can answer under the wire. WHEN IS STACK EXCHANGE GOING TO FIX THIS BUG??!!! — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yhyrcanus
Yeah, i noticed that. I saw you said it was closed, but somehow i could still answer (and thought maybe it was re-opened, so i just went for it. — yhyrcanus 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@sweenish: The short answer is that comments are for clarification about a post's on-topic subject matter. That is their only sanctioned use. Any other use subjects them to removal, including posting answers in comments. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
yhyrcanus, there is a grace period which allows you to post an answer when you started writing the before if was closed. That feature just doesn't work at any time. — Tom 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
@fbueckert Your question is broken. How can I have a disagreement and be accepting of the thing I disagree with? Things don't improve when everyone blindly agrees with what's established. Disagreements and challenges drive change, not thinking it's working just fine. Definition parroting also fits into the definition of talking at each other, please don't pretend I'm the only one at fault here. — sweenish 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
"I usually leave a quick comment on such posts with the reason why I deleted it, but as I had a large number to process I didn't in this case." - alas, this doesn't seems to have truly saved you any time, since you then wound up explaining yourself here. — Mark Amery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
@RobertHarvey And I try to adhere to that. I can eat my flub because at the end of the day I saw an opportunity to help since I happened to speak their language. I was here more about the wild overreaction I received to a daily thing, where the only differentiating factor was a non-English question. Mods either care about this or they don't. They shouldn't selectively care a whole bunch just because the question wasn't English. That doesn't paint a good picture. And SO's flagging system needs something specific to foreign languages because the flags as they exist now aren't adequate. — sweenish 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zev Spitz
@RyanLundy The little conspiracy theorist sitting on my shoulder is whispering in my ear that all "this" has been engineered by the CEO so he could swoop in and save the day. (In 6-8 somethings...) — Zev Spitz 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by randomusername
I'm going to follow up with what about those of us who have already identified ourselves on our account? — randomusername 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@TelKitty Did you complete any badges recently? — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
Your second paragraph is the thing here. I didn't formally answer. I [eventually] corrected the typo in a comment, and according to the group that came after me, they don't see the same leeway you do. So what is it? Do we only care when OP speaks a different language? All I wanted to do was get them on their way and repeat a sentiment to visit the correct site next time. But I get the nth degree because OP wasn't in English, but the same thing happens literally all the time when it's English. So, how much do we really care? It's not a good look for SO. — sweenish 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@MarkAmery: I'll reconsider if this becomes a regular occurrence. I really am not going to got revisit hundreds of posts. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sweenish
Selected and +1. That leeway is what I thought was acceptable when I dropped my comments on that question, but some people feel strongly in the other way only when OP doesn't speak English, it seems. — sweenish 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@EdPlunkett You don't even need the "have a nice day". Regardless of how you mean it, that can easily be taken as a flippant "don't let the door hit you on the way out". Best to just disengage at the point you realize that (A) you have lost interest/patience, (B) your words don't seem to be getting through, and/or (C) you have nothing more of substance to say. Not every comment needs a response. Note that if I really thought there was really something wrong with your behavior, I would have done more than just deleted the comment. We all get frustrated; I understand that. — Cody Gray ♦ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Hard to say, I'm not familiar with the selection algorithm. It makes sense that it would select a tag badge to track where you were...further along. Do note that you can change it using the gear/cog icon to the side. Perhaps you picked [chat] at some point for the lulz? @TelKitty — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"...changing from time to time as Stack Exchange updates their prettier.js deployment." Really, now? When was the last time this happened? — Cody Gray ♦ 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@CodyGray: I don't have dates, but lang-rust.js was added in at some point. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
To clarify, no moderators were involved with that question, except for deleting the comments in response to flags on them. The flagging system is perfectly adequate. Posts written in languages other than English can be flagged for literally any reason, including "very low quality" or "needs to be closed". The issue is not whether you should provide solutions in comments (you really shouldn't, but you aren't going to get into trouble for posting on-topic comments). What you shouldn't do is post anything that is not in English. — Cody Gray ♦ 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@CodyGray: that said, I don't see any changes past Jan 2017 show up in the version served by the CDN. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Raedwald
Belongs on MSE. — Raedwald 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
What do you expect? A house visit with a giant S as Jeff used to do? — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Honey
They do not partake in the activities that are needed to build and grow a community. They overwork their Community Managers and force them to act as intercessors without giving them the authority to help build the community Can you be more specific about this? Like what issue? — Honey 1 min ago
 
4:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
This is a pretty intractable problem, and not at all limited to this specific case. I'm not sure what we can do to address it. Maybe adding a tag warning or some usage guidance would be a start. A staff member would be required for that; it's not something moderators can do. And all that'll do is make the admonition at the beginning of the tag wiki excerpt more visible. It can't make people follow it. — Cody Gray ♦ 43 secs ago
 
5:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
And this is why plagiarism is so much work even for mods. — BoltClock ♦ 1 min ago
 
6:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@Programmer000 When Cody asked you for the exact error message you're getting, I'm pretty sure he meant the error Stack Overflow is giving you, not the one your code is giving you. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
 
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