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12:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@E_net4 Sure, there's no perfect solution, but there are quite a few things we could do and AFAIK we don't. In case of the linked question, there's even a link to CR, so the poster could have been immediately informed about CR being no close reason at all. There's a "performance" tag, so any closer could have been shown a warning as I proposed. The question could be shown to some high-score reviewers, who could decide that a big red sign like "Before you vote to close ...." should be shown. — maaartinus 23 secs ago
 
12:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jherico
Getting the same thing. Kind of annoying for them to be promoting pluralsight in the dev story page and then not letting you link in assessments. — Jherico 1 min ago
 
1:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
Sometimes close-as-duplicate of a similar question is used as an alternative to "too broad". Reopening usually requires not only that it's not a close enough duplicate, but also that it's an actual good question on its own. (Some people might have their internal standards set too high on that; maybe reopen and downvote if it's on topic but not useful.) Also what's obviously a duplicate to an experienced programmer is not always obvious to a beginner. It's important to explain why it's a duplicate (in a comment) if it's not totally obvious, but some of the complaining might be unwarranted. — Peter Cordes 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
The basic idea of giving more weight to users with more rep / badges in the tags is probably good (like for dup-hammer close votes). But it would need to handle corner cases for smaller tags where few people have high rep/badges. e.g. I'm the only SO user with a cpu-architecture badge, and we do get some questions about computer-architecture homework (like cache tag bits). You could argue that those aren't even programming questions, but that's a separate issue. The threshold doesn't need to be anywhere near 9, and could maybe be lower for questions with no "popular" tags. — Peter Cordes 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
Half the time when I google and end up at a low-scoring question with a high-scoring answer, it's basically quoting documentation that I'd rather have found directly. — Peter Cordes 25 secs ago
 
 
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4:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdulla Nilam
@CharleneVas this was almost 4 year and there is an accepted the answer. try something new — Abdulla Nilam 1 min ago
 
5:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yunnosch
@CertainPerformance You seem to know how it could be an answer. Could you please sketch how mentioning that single technical thing can be an answer? That would help me accept that I was wrong, even if it is a bad answer or even bad and wrong. — Yunnosch 50 secs ago
 
6:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
All posts are treated the same. Who contributed it doesn't matter. Jon Skeet shouldn't get an auto upvote either. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
@rene but this New contributor status is really short, I think 1 week max and under specific points. It think it is really OK to understand that may not have enough experience and make that mistake in their effort and question. — Afshin 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Better introduce them as quickly as possible to the core feature of the site. The tour should have learned them that good posts float to the top. They don't do that on their own, that is caused by something. Being new doesn't exempt anyone from following rules. I give you our overwhelming guidance to new contributors might be daunting to take in at once, never the less, with 5000 new questions per day we're not going to let those untouched. Yahoo answers can have them. — rene 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Have you considered the implications of disabling downvotes for a subset of posts, and granting certain users a "free pass"? — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
A general rule not to downvote new contributors is not optimal. This would prevent us to remove off-topic stuff. And it would send a wrong signal to those users. Not to forget that this feature can be used to trick the system by creating a new account for each question. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
@BDL you have a point, but I think at least a limit on their down votes(for example -1 max) will be sufficient. — Afshin 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
Problem is that people with new contributor status normally get down voted a lot easily. it comes from 2 different area:1) their down mistake may need -1 for example for their post. But you suddenly see easily -5 or more because a lot of people just down vote questions when they see someone has already did it. 2) I personally feel people down vote without taking New contributor experience into consideration. I have seen a lot of people just say "learn to debug your code". This is not a way to teach people on their mistakes. — Afshin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
As I mentioned in my comment, at least limiting down vote(for example -1) is better. I have seen people are reluctant to answer questions that is down voted,because they get down voted them selves too(happened for myself few times). We need to answer their questions properly because they are beginners in a lot of cases. — Afshin 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
This post got -1, my post got -9 and it's nearly the same I want to complain, the posts are quite similar... — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
Content is being up- or downvoted, not the user. Stack Exchange is about posts, not users.Jeanne Dark 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
problem is that a lot of down votes comes from they fact that the first person down voted the question rather than really deserving down vote. although you have a point. And no, I have seen a lot of down votes that comes with a comment like : "Learn to debug". — Afshin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
I wasn't trying to imply that at all. It looks like it could be a (poor, badly-worded) answer to a completely different question, but here, even if you squint, I think it's pretty hard to see how it could even be an attempt to address the problem OP is asking about — CertainPerformance 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@afshin, you're going to need to provide evidence of significant numbers of questions that suffer from that issue. I'd wager they deserve all the downvotes they get. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
I started this because I say 1 question like this yesterday. And I'm sure we can find several more. People was answering incorrectly in comments and down voted question to -3, and I answered correctly I got -2 down vote myself. After people realized their mistakes they deleted their comments and my post became +3, but question was still -3. I really don't think question deserved a -3 down vote people it was a mistake that I'm sure everyone has made(like the people in comment at first). — Afshin just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yunnosch
@CertainPerformance Sorry for misinterpreting you. I still hope for an explanation, it would be my shortest path to peace. — Yunnosch 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
@Afshin Are you referring to this question that's based on the OP forgetting to add curly braces? — Jeanne Dark 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arulkumar
Still the bug is exists. rev 2019.8.23.34694Arulkumar 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
@JeanneDark yes.that question. — Afshin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
@Afshin Did the downvoters comment and say exactly that? Because else you can't know who downvoted and for what reason. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Afshin
@JeanneDark They were incorrect about it (e.g. someone said you needed --x). Code was not indented correctly at first(OP mistake), but answering incorrectly because code indention is not correct should not be an option. They removed their comment afterwards. But I have seen a lot of down voted on new contributor specially when code is small. It seems people think that no one can make a mistake in a small code. And when you need first down vote on such codes, you normally get a lot more quickly afterwards. — Afshin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@Afshin there's a significant number of people that expect that you should use a debugger before asking here so expectations do vary as to how much effort is required before asking. — Robert Longson 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xdtTransform
For a lot of new user that post on low frequency tag, it's already the case. Due to low trafic their firsts posts have no kind of moderation. Then they hit a popular tag and get a leg sweep. But because of their previous questions, they are more resistant to feed back. And may become more agressive. — xdtTransform 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@Afshin this question should never have been answered. It's a typo and should be closed as such. No wonder you get downvotes when answering such questions. — BDL 1 min ago
 
7:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jan Doggen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
It's not a hot potato game - it is dumb SO users who keep posting comments about "you should post this at CR" without knowing what's on topic on either site. Please flag such comments as "no longer needed", and that's that. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
And I don't see how this meta post is not a duplicate. — Lundin 1 min ago
 
8:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Remember that mods aren't experts in everything, so for something to qualify as "not an answer" it should clearly not be an attempt to answer the question even without any knowledge of the technology. — John Montgomery 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
I don't think a warning on close votes for the entire tag would be appropriate - for instance, the question you linked is clearly Too Broad regardless of whether it would fit on Code Review. — John Montgomery 21 secs ago
 
8:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
What FAQ are you speaking of? This? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/271055/…Lundin 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
I recognize what you're talking about, but "cuddling" new contributors or "protecting" them from reality doesn't do them a favor in the long run. Neither for using SO, or in real life. It's probably not necessary to DV massively, but 1-3 certainly isn't a bad thing in that it alerts the community that the post needs to be handled (maintain site quality). In order to help it would be better to politely instruct the OP about the problem with the question... — Cindy Meister 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
...If it's a typo, point that out in a comment (not an answer) and flag/vote to close as off-topic->not reproducible. A Q&A about a typo is not useful for other users, in the future, which is why the question should be removed. Help the OP, a beginner, fine; but also help SO. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@JohnRees Between the meta sites, the MSO community represents least its main site community: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1095336/…peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Greco Jonathan
there is always a gap between what is meant to be, and what it really is. — Greco Jonathan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
My last remark in this thread is that I would discourage you from making frivolous comparisons to fascism. People wanting good grammar and spelling have nothing to do with the (historical) far right, and it is not healthy to normalise that insult. — halfer 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@Danilo: I think non-native English speakers can ask and expect some tolerance from native speakers. However, there is nothing wrong with people wanting to correct grammar - if grammar is already poor in a question then a non-native reader will struggle with it all the more. — halfer 1 min ago
 
9:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
You are on Meta Stack Overflow. This question will not be answered here and you may want to go read How to Ask and what kinds of questions are on-topic. This appears to be a request for an API, which is not on-topic on the main site either. — E_net4 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That question was chosen as an audit because the system believes it's a "known good" post, because it as 11 upvotes and no downvotes. I notice you haven't chosen to vote on the question either, despite you feeling the question is subpar. — yivi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kampai
I am afraid of this kind of post, I was recently put on hold for few days because of this kind of mistake, however you may never know. — Kampai 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@Lundin No, meta.stackoverflow.com/q/388759/1709587 - the one I linked to. I hadn't realised there were two related [faq-proposed] questions about asking SQL questions. — Mark Amery 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Nobody probably realizes, which is why this stuff shouldn't be on meta to begin with, but on the main site in the form of tag wiki. — Lundin 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
I don't see a need for gold badgers to lead on this. Other people are perfectly capable of understanding the issues involved well enough to do it, and the gold badge doesn't grant any powers that are relevant here. — Mark Amery 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
See also this, for example. — yivi 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
Review audits lie to you about upvotes to make it less obvious that it is a review. But notice that the question was asked 28 days ago and has 442 views so if it was considered bad it would likely already have been closed. You can always click 'link' to look at the full question with correct votes. — greg-449 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Skip is always a valid choice. — Robert Longson 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kampai
@greg-449: Fair point. That was a metaphor for me. — Kampai 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@MarkAmery Then you are assuming that the posts linked are technically correct and up to date. I wouldn't do that. Gold badge is the only way we have to tell that someone has relevant technical expertise. In addition, someone would have to review what's already in the SQL tag wiki. Etc. It's very easy for someone without deeper technical expertise to make incorrect assumptions. Formally you just need someone with 20k+ rep to update the wiki. But eh, given the traffic of the SQL tag, finding gold badge users should be easy. — Lundin 55 secs ago
 
10:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@BradLarson You should watch the probability that a user makes a bad review (failed audits / total review count), and not the total number of the bad reviews. Although this argument is exactly the type what I could even say to the wall. — peterh 46 secs ago
 
10:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
Worth to note that it's easy to stay a new contributor for life: You create a new account each week. — Temani Afif 1 min ago
 
10:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
This response - and any comments below it that are in general agreement - are making a far more negative assessment of the site than is reasonable. There isn't a ban on asking people to try debugging, and it is perfectly possible to word debugging suggestions in a positive and encouraging way. — halfer 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Is this not similar to the voting buttons in your own posts or in posts where voting is locked, for example? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@yivi: do you mean the style of notification is similar? For what it is worth, they are not - the "you may award your bounty" floats in free space, next to the post score, and needs to be dismissed manually, whereas the warning about voting on your own posts slides in from the top and auto-dismisses. They're also different colours (red and pink). — halfer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
No, similar in the sense that voting buttons could be completely disabled when not really available; but the choice has been made (maybe for performance and/or consistency reasons) not the get that information until the user actually tries to perform the action. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@yivi: I agree that disabling the award button would solve the problem, but then that might create a fresh problem, which is that the user doesn't understand why the button is disabled. Disabling voting buttons on own posts is a bit better, since it should be obvious why one cannot do that, but perhaps it is better to have explicit error messages for truly lost people? — halfer 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I'm not saying disabling UI elements is better (or worse, for that matter.). I'm just saying that this seems to be the same kind of design choice. Until the status is actually needed (the user really trying to award the bounty), it's not retrieved. — yivi 1 min ago
 
11:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@halfer No, there is no "comment" ban, but there is increased number of flagging comments suggesting improvements to the question or similar (suggestions to debug, read documentation...) While it is certainly possible to phrase suggestions to sound more positive at the end there is no guarantee that even polite message will not be targeted. I would say that situation escalated to absurdity and it leaves bad experience all around for both new and experienced users Comments asking for clarification or an MCVE are not rude/abusiveDalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
@DalijaPrasnikar: are you basing your observation on experience, or is there some data available for this phenomenon? Even if we thought that SO has gone too far in the niceness project (and broadly I do not), it is still moderators who are responding to these flags (and many mods are happy to be critical of changes to SO policy they do not like). — halfer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I look forward to the future questions on Meta following such a change "Hey, I posted X and got no downvotes, now I post Y which is the same as X, but I got downvotes. Why are you mean to me?" — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
11:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I honestly like this idea. It can work as a short introduction to each of the most prominent array methods - map, filter, reduce. So it should say something like "Each will iterate through the array and change stuff. map to tranfrom from X to Y (include example), filter to remove some items (include example), and reduce to get an array and return one item (include example).". I think this would help a great deal, as many people have trouble initially grasping what we consider very basic transamination mechanics, so showing how these are used would be a good tutorial. — VLAZ 18 secs ago
 
11:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@halfer I don't have hard numbers just experience. I have been frequently browsing through meta questions and before "welcoming" policy was introduced there has been zero to none questions about why some "suggestion comment" were removed. Now such comments get removed more often (I have seen some of them vanish) and there is number of questions on meta asking for clarification. Linked meta question gives some insights from moderator's perspective. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
While my experience is subjective and involves my feelings, being welcoming policy was also brought here by people's feelings. So expecting that one side can have feelings and other cannot is unrealistic. And to explicitly state my feelings, yes I feel like I have to bend backwards in order to comment and not accidentally hurt anyone and I am more reluctant to leave comments on questions than before. — Dalija Prasnikar 27 secs ago
 
12:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vikas P
Actually that question was asked two years before and it closed with the reason quality can be compromised. But now stackoverflow itself improved much with technologies. So why we can't rethink about it ? — Vikas P 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
It's whitespace + tag, though. I don't know the algorithm, but that might've contributed to it ending up in the reopen queue — Erik A 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YakovL
@ErikA nice catch, not sure either — YakovL 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
This is not a duplicate; as this is a feature request to prevent downvotes on new users; not singularly a discussion on the philosophy behind why people downvote and that effect on new users. — George Stocker ♦ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller
[ Boson ] New comment posted by weegee
Yes..... but the best answers you can get about performance is only on code review. — weegee 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Was an attempt made to get this question migrated to CR? I don't see it in the timeline. Why would closing this question on SO cause a problem for CR, such that we'd need a warning when closing the question on SO? I could see maybe a warning if a closer asked for a custom migration to CR, but then, those involve a moderator. And that's one of the many reasons we have moderators -- to prevent us stupid users from making ill-informed migrations. Or is this just in response to a comment someone made about asking on CR? How is that relevant to the close dialog? — Heretic Monkey 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Just to make it clear... my feelings are not a problem for me... but my reluctance to give feedback and just down voting and/or close voting gives even worse experience to people that should actually benefit from "being welcoming" policy. Removing comments like in this case will only backfire in the long (and short) run. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Louis
"it closed".... The other question isn't closed. The rest of your comment makes it sound like you have something new to say about the topic. You can post an answer on the other question if that's the case. That's true for everyone: if someone has something new to add they can post an answer on the other question. There's no need to post a new question. — Louis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
I edited those two answers, to the best of my knowledge. One of mod flags was rejected. Still awaiting for any input from you. — Danilo 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
Also since the time i did write an second question i've fixed my problem. So if that question is deemed ok, i can place an answer to it. — Danilo 1 min ago
 
1:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
I would not be opposed to the idea, but it's worth noting that points is not a very good indicator of talent. There are a handful of help vampires lurking on the main site, with several multiples of 10K. I think you can tell much more about an engineer by looking at a random sample of their questions - good posts will reflect effective communication, problem solving, intuition, succinctness and clarity. — halfer 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
@gnat all of those are discussions, this is an actual feature-request. — George Stocker ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
I mean this as constructive food for thought @DalijaPrasnikar: could your opposition to the Welcoming policy subconsciously be causing you to look for problems you think it causes? The inverse could be true of me: I am generally OK with the Welcoming project, and I have barely modified my advice on debugging questions (other than checking my accidentally sharp tone). — halfer 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@GeorgeStocker as far as can tell, there is no firm consensus among our community whether this is a problem, see Closing feature requests as duplicates of general discussionsgnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
Well, we don’t want to spell out exactly what makes a request suspicious because that just gives people who are suspicious a way around it. If it’s intermittent or rare across the broad SO population, and the fix is as simple as the message describes (“hit back and try again”), I’d say there isn’t a problem to solve here. — Dan Bron 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
@DanBron that sounds like the start of an answer. More specifically, it might be helpful to explain what kind of bad behavior this is designed to stop - is it trying to detect hacking attempts? Posts from locations that frequently spam? Trollish behavior? Requests that are likely a part of a DDOS attack? Requests from users that are currently Suspended? People that use Stack Overflow "too much" and probably need a break? — Robert Columbia 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
duplicate feature request: Disable downvoting for users with reputation less than 50. "Don't handicap your children by making their lives easy..." — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
see also: Disable downvoting for users with reputation less than 50, "Don't handicap your children by making their lives easy..." — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
I've noted several complaints on Meta, but nothing that seems excessive. I think some concrete examples would be helpful to drive the point home. — fbueckert 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NathanOliver
Per "The Meta" this is not the intended behavior. — NathanOliver 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Ah, so it was. Good catch — Machavity 18 secs ago
 
1:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
For context, it was removed by OP in revision 6. — Zoe 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
From balpha: "We don't usually require sticky IPs (in particular once you're logged in it shouldn't be an issue), but if during the process of logging in your IP address changes, that's extremely fishy, and that's why we bail out. So when this happens, all I can tell you is to reload [...] and click the Google button again, in the hope that your ISP lets you keep the same IP address for a few seconds :)" — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
I appreciate you examining your biases @Dalija - we all have 'em. — halfer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@halfer I would not rule anything out. But am I trying to be as objective in my observations as possible. Problem with welcoming policy is not policy as such (and I don't object that) but the fact that it was brought as solution to misdiagnosed problem. On top of that initial blog post Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change. was downright insulting. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Users with >3k have the ability to vote to reopen, which should be used to indicate they feel the post can be reopened. Thus, automatically putting the question in the reopen queue for their edits is superfluous. If edits by < 2k users aren't going to put the question in the reopen queue, then the automatic entry into the reopen queue is only useful for users with 2k < rep <3k, but that would be after the system has trained them for 2k that their edits don't put the post in the reopen queue. Do posts from users with that range of rep really make the question on-topic all that often? — Makyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Since the problem was misdiagnosed, I expected from the very beginning that solution will not be the right one, since moderating content is still and will be fundamental to the site. There is no welcoming and nice way to moderate content. And the receiving party will always be unsatisfied by the level of "niceness" As result people are flagging comments all around. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
(I understand why people say they are insulted based on the ideas in that post - however I think the problem is that people are not comfortable with the idea they may be subconsciously discriminatory. I think it is Science, but to the offended, it's just Political Ideology. It was brave to post that piece, but perhaps given the history of Meta, maybe it was overly optimistic to think it would be welcomed with open arms). — halfer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
(I seem to remember that it was suggested that we go easy on editing in order to be more welcoming, and I remember that I disagreed with that at the time. But I felt the piece was raising ideas to encourage folks on Twitter to get involved in the conversation in a productive way, rather than constantly sniping from outside of the community. Putting ideas on the table doesn't mean they'll get done ;-)). — halfer 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard
@Zoe true, but is it relevant? I mean, if it would have been removed by a different user, the OP here wouldn't be able to hammer the question? Anyway, this answer isn't full anyway, see Sonic answer for the real picture. :-) — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
Incidentally, if anyone wants an interesting (long) read about the dilemmas of trying to do the right thing, read this. I think it is brilliant, and it outlines the difficulty of changing behaviours in a community, keeping it practical, and sifting useful voices out of the clamour of the outrage mob. It's a complex problem, to be sure (both here and there). — halfer 2 mins ago
 
2:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Random guess: Suspicious requests are a part of SE's XSS protection, and Pluralsight made a request SE thought was a bad self-XSS attempt, possibly due to a bug. — Zoe 19 secs ago
 
2:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xdtTransform
What is the gain compare with only one snippet with all the code? Too much code in one block, You can put code in normal code block for the explanation and still provide a complete snippet. People won't have to copy past from multiple part. Ps: I'm not trying to be picky, just fail to see the real life scenari.. — xdtTransform 59 secs ago
 
3:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by lightswitch05
In 2019, this is a non-answer. SO uses Fastly CDN and we're talking about a static JS file that can be cached indefinitely using cache-busting methods. Not only would it have a minuscule impact on the backend servers due to Fastly caching, but it would remove an entire DNS query and TLS connection. Besides the overhead with creating a TLS connection, ajax.google.com has a 60 second TTL. With HTTP/2, this JS file could be multiplexed loaded with the other java-script files being loaded. The file should be moved for performances reasons alone. — lightswitch05 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I agree w/ fbueckert, I haven't seen any change in reception of close voters since this has started. Do you have some specific examples, Makoto? — TylerH 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Afshin so, due to a mistake from the OP in posting their code, they made their own question impossible to answer. And we should NOT signal to OP this isn't okay? We focus way too much on the people now. What has happened to 'stack is :upvote good content, downvote bad'. That's how we curate our library of knowledge. It's just a reality of the site. Or it was. Now, we need to decide if the old way still works,or if we need to become teachers and educators instead. The old guard thinks thisll kill stack. I guess I'm a grumpy old man now.... Cause I agree :/ — Patrice 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joe W
php, javascript and jquery was removed in revision 6 of the question — Joe W 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I would guess not since the entire point is to have them be isolated sandboxes, where the isolation is "from the rest of the page". Not a JS wiz, though, so it may be possible. — TylerH 55 secs ago
 
3:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
It doesn't seem lik ea duplicate to me; unless you have a previous feature-request asking for this same thing. — George Stocker ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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5:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mathieu Guindon
"Stack Overflow wants to send notifications. Allow?" ~shudder~Mathieu Guindon 1 min ago
 
5:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@TylerH - all of the issues I've seen that have come up have largely been in this thread. — Makoto 16 secs ago
 
 
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6:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Hi. I'm your friendly neighborhood fact checker. Rep collection has never been criminalized, and has been encouraged. All askers and answerers are presented with the information they need to write good questions and answers, and through that earn rep. Whether people decide to follow that or not, however, is not SE's problem - that's the individual's problem. The reason stats have gone down is because there's only so many questions to ask. The first few years, there were practically no duplicates because they didn't exist. Also, the standards were different and have since changed. — Zoe 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Omri Attiya
I know that it's possible by doing that. I asked if there is a way for linking snippet or if such a feature can be added — Omri Attiya 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by weegee
@OmriAttiya Read the first line, it says "no" and this feature will not be added in the future because then this will be a security issue. — weegee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 林果皞
The downvote is almost ruining this site. I try to avoid ask question in popular tag unless I rushing to get my job done. The reason is probably too many high scores users in popular tag and they earns high amount of reputation points and so some of them downvote without any loss. — 林果皞 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
The stats have never been considered an insult. If SE attempted to chase away new users, the community would eventually wither and die (because no users in - the inevitable users out will eventually leave no users if there's no one new joining). There's in fact new people joining daily, and some of them manage to get familiar with the insanely large definitions of what's OK, and what isn't. Many people don't, either because they just came here to ask a question and nothing more, or because they for some other reason just don't come back. Getting used to all the guidelines is a job of its own. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
I'm pretty sure you're confusing a desire to stay and gain rep with something everyone has to do. No one is required to stay and collect relatively useless internet points after posting a single question, and no one is required to moderate the site either. Those who do, do so because they want for whatever personal reasons they have, whether that's showing off to potential employers, or just because they want to be a part of the community. You're making the question quality stats into a hyperbole. Fallign quality != criminalizing rep collection. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Well, if it's sandboxed, which I think it is too, they can't access each other by design. — Zoe 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tyler Roper
@OmriAttiya You didn't ask if such a feature could be added, your question verbatim was "Is it possible to somehow link them together? Meaning to use each other's functions and variables? Or even decide how they will relate to each other?", to which weegee provided an adequate and correct response. — Tyler Roper 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yash Krishan
And I thought it was witchcraft. — Yash Krishan 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrik Alexits
the error is still present, what to do to get the right person's attention? — Patrik Alexits 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@林果皞 down votes on questions are free anyway. Only downvoting answers cost rep (-1 to be precise). — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Does it really make sense to close this as "can no longer be reproduced"? I'm pretty sure other people could still encounter the same scenario. — John Montgomery 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Did you mean to post this to stackoverflow.com instead of here on Meta, perhaps? — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neil Higgins
I think you could be right... cheers — Neil Higgins 1 min ago
 
7:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
I've downvoted this so it won't appear in the close vote queue again. I've also voted to close it (I think you're right). — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gert Arnold
After the experiment, will questions that were closed by three votes still require only three reopen votes, forever? — Gert Arnold 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
This is almost surely a duplicate question - you can use user:me in any search query to filter to your own posts. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Why do you need a separate search bar, when one search bar can do all the searching? — TylerH 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roshana Pitigala
@TylerH That question explains how to use the main search bar. What I'm suggesting is to add new search bars to make it easier for the users. — Roshana Pitigala 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roshana Pitigala
We know how to use the features in SO because we've been here for a while now. But what about the new newbies? — Roshana Pitigala 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
To be fair, on the subject of being able to search through your content on your own profile in the various tabs (specifically the Favorites tab here), I have asked for that in the past and others have, too. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by weegee
You just have to click your profile and then the search bar will automatically be filled with the userid, just type anything you want to search after that. — weegee 21 secs ago
 
8:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gonzalo Garcia
Why this question is -15 downvoted? — Gonzalo Garcia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@GonzaloGarcia probably because the OP was impatient ... the comment from Martijn didn't help in that respect. — rene 44 secs ago
 
8:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Also watch out for links encoded as rebuses hidden in the first letters of each sentence. — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turtlefight
@Shog9 so is this a yes or no? :P — Turtlefight 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
I don't see an issue as long as the answer stands by itself and the links are at least relevant: stackoverflow.com/help/promotionShog9 ♦ 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turtlefight
@Shog9 yes, but he didn't disclose that his affiliation to the links and copy-pasted the answer from an external site (not his own) — Turtlefight 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turtlefight
@Shog9 OK, thanks for your clarification 🙂 — Turtlefight 1 min ago
 
10:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JoshDM
Down to 65 now. — JoshDM 2 mins ago
 
10:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@Lundin The users are dumb or just new.... and there are tons of them, which means that the system itself is dumb or new. The system isn't new, so it's dumb. +++ The two meta questions are surely related, but I'm asking for stopping users closing questions while Makoto's question asked for removing comments. — maaartinus 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
I've seen some [c] questions with really crappy formatting that were made readable by suggested edits. — JL2210 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
It would be technically possible to link different iframes from different windows together, to an extent, if one controls all sites in question, but it'd be really odd and pretty pointless, at least in this case — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@HereticMonkey The OP has stated in the second (now deleted) comment that they reposted to CR (all migration-related comments were deleted). So this is at least as big a problem for CR as for SO (actually bigger since it's better placed here and since CR is much smaller). Involving the moderator means more work for them and that's something what could be handled by more experienced users alone (it's just about showing an additional warning, so there's no need for a big boss). +++ The question was closed and reposted on CR - and this happens again and again. — maaartinus 34 secs ago
 
10:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
I don't get what you are proposing - essentially stop closing questions tagged with "performance" whatsoever? The one you've linked to is perfect example of an awful performance question - "my code MethodINotGoingToShow(42) is slow. Fix it" - I don't see why it needs to stay open in current state nor I see good reasons why people suggest to move it to CR to help with perf part of the problem... Or is your suggestion to ask people to think/read guidance before providing random recommendations? (If you do have solution for that - share!). — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
Can someone explain the downvote? — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Not my vote... but I don't see any direct evidence of spam in this case... At very least it looks like author had a question, worked on it and then posted answer to blog and SO in couple days (or less likely copy-pasted someone else solution with proper attribution) — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@AlexeiLevenkov No, I don't want such questions to be prevented from being closed, I only want them to be prevented from being closed for this wrong stupid reason. And even more I want them not to be re-posted to CR. And yes, I don't want to forbid closing, I only want to warn the closers in case they're probably wrong. I don't have any 100% solution (this would need an AI smarter than our users), but I guess, we could catch quite a few cases - without much programming effort and without bothering the users much. — maaartinus 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turtlefight
Not my vote either - just to toss into the pot: the first 5 links in code block are to sites from the user & the code seems to come from another site, presumably not affiliated with the user (the following 3 links) — Turtlefight 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@AlexeiLevenkov Note the username, the multiple links to firedevelop-related resources they include in the answer, and the low-quality question. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@AlexeiLevenkov I don't think the question is awful. Imagine yourself having maybe one year programming experience, how would you write it better? — maaartinus 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@Turtlefight Thanks. Incorporated. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@maaartinus ohh… meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/388868/… :) … Without putting any effort to investigate I would likely write awful question too... But why the fact user is new should change if question contains all necessary information or not/answerable? — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@maaartinus for FR itself - I don't think suggesting CR is main (or even significant) problem with "performance" questions... If SO would consider more guidance based on tags in general your suggestion may be part of it, by itself it probably going to add more confusion than value... Especially if you see people with less than 3K rep commenting to post on CR - they won't even get warning you suggest as they are unlikely to close the post... — Alexei Levenkov 38 secs ago
 
11:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
@User1973 If you’re gonna pay people to solve your problems, why involve SO at all? This sounds like outsourcing with extra steps. — Dan Bron just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Raedwald
I created and answered a question specifically to have a post to introduce novices to debuggers. — Raedwald 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Raedwald
The first question you are linking to has been closed as too broad. — Raedwald 13 secs ago
 
11:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
How do you know the gender of that user? — Peter Mortensen 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@AlexeiLevenkov The problem with noobs is that they'd need to spend days investigating (and then, they may write a ten pages question containing their findings. No thanks). +++ Downvoting is fine, closing is fine but only after providing some hints - "Too broad" is simply too broad and should be banned. If you treat SO as a growing archive, then OK, but for getting answers it became pretty unusable for beginners. +++ Moreover, the question is only unanswerable because of being closed, by I guess, I provided an answer. — maaartinus 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by maaartinus
@AlexeiLevenkov I may be wrong, but I read pretty all [java] [performance] questions and the CR nonsense comes again and again. It's not only about closing a question, but it's also about spamming a (smaller) site. In the end, there are two closed question, no answer and a doubly frustrated OP. Nice for the SO archive and stupid for anyone using it actively. — maaartinus 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turtlefight
@PeterMortensen i don't, what would be the appropriate way to address a user with unknown gender? (sorry, English is not my primary language) — Turtlefight 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by User1973
@DanBron It's not like I set out to pay someone in the first place. I posted on SO in hopes that someone here could help (usually this is the case). However, this time, I didn't get an answer that solved my problem (rare!). So I figured I'd try to find someone externally to help. And if I (or the freelancer) posts the answer on SO, then chances are it might help someone else too. — User1973 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by User1973
Sometimes it seems like people crucify honest and reasonable questions...as a hobby. — User1973 50 secs ago
 

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