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1:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Unclear questions being closed, is a good thing, ultimately the question can be reopened provided the question is made clear so the close reason ultimately isn’t that important — Security Hound 20 secs ago
 
1:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
If you intend for people to be required to do something like this, please see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/357436. If this is a request for site functionality to make it easier to write messages like that, it would need a much more specific design, and the site is still not interested in adding things like that. There are many third-party user-script options. (Also, please tag feature-request rather than discussion if you are requesting a feature like that.) — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
1:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
It never would have occurred to me that the labels could be clicked in order to focus a corresponding input field. — Karl Knechtel 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Aside: am I the only one who finds that h2 and h3 styling are much too similar with Stack Overflow's default CSS? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
 
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4:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
That post isn't deleted. — Nick stands with Ukraine just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Emmy
@NickstandswithUkraine when I click the 'edit your question' link it says 'page not found' — Emmy 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Can you screenshot that page not found message? That would be a bug, but one I cannot reproduce stackoverflow.com/posts/73889933/edit is the link I see on the Edit question button and it displays the edit window appropriately (that said the post-owner duplicate UI is a different component than the one we see). — Henry Ecker 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Emmy
@HenryEcker - where do I upload the screenshot? — Emmy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
You can edit your question to include that information. — Henry Ecker 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
@Laurel Thanks for the update. I discovered as much empirically the other day (much to my disappointment!) but forgot that we had discussed that here. Thanks for the link to more info! — tripleee 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
The person who closed the question is not an admin, and not even a mod - just someone who is recognized by the site as having javascript expertise. See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/230865 for details. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Since you mentioned that "when I click the 'edit your question' link it says 'page not found'" could you right-click and copy the link, then paste it here? — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Emmy
@AndrewT. It goes here, which is quite bizarre: stackoverflow.com/questions/9761/…Emmy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Emmy
@NickstandswithUkraine The button below the 'edit your question' link works so I've edited it with that. But thanks for sending the link. — Emmy 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
It would be really nice if you could document (in your question here) the exact steps you took which sent you to that (incorrect) link. If the UI is directing post owners to the wrong location that is very much something that we would want to document and fix. — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@HenryEcker I'm afraid the link was supposed to link to MSE #21788: How does editing work? but ends up with per-site #21788Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Hmm... Okay so the post owner feedback "edit your question" text link for duplicates is trying to direct to MSE with a relative link and so directing to a specific deleted question on SO. Odd that my UI here on MSO directs appropriately... I still think that this would be a really viable bug report if the steps were in the question and retagged correctly. — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Emmy
@HenryEcker I've edited the question — Emmy 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Re: the bug, I've posted it separately on network-wide Meta.SE. — Andrew T. 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@HenryEcker it's because the original post was on MSO, thus it redirects to the same ID on MSE. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"But the question it refers to me is about assigning the value of one promise to another" no, it's about getting the value out of a promise. Which is exactly what you want to do - you have a promise and you want the value it resolves with. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
5:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nils Kähler
The hover effect is also not aligned, and functions differently. The i next to TEAMS becomes lighter, and COLLECTIVES does nothing, when hovering over it. — Nils Kähler 12 secs ago
 
 
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8:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
My 2cts, but the "like I need" in the Title is completely [vague/fluff/useless/non-descriptive] to me... // Perfect are the Input + Output, and nicely formatted, that's very good...! // No Query/Code posted, => feels a bit like "Gimme ze Codez" apart from mentioning "PIVOT" + "Aggregation" and those 2 Terms could use some Links to some Documentation or to some Thread(s) on SO showing your Research and your Attempt(s) to solve your Issue yourself... — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
My 2cts, but the "like I need" in the Title is completely [vague/fluff/useless/non-descriptive/ unfocused ] to me... // Perfect are the Input + Output, and nicely formatted, that's very good...! // No Query/Code posted, => feels a bit like "Gimme ze Codez" apart from mentioning "PIVOT" + "Aggregation" and those 2 Terms could use some Links to some Documentation or to some Thread(s) on SO showing your Research and your Attempt(s) to solve your Issue yourself... — chivracq 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sod Almighty
What a STUPID place to hide the damn link! Seriously, what is wrong with SO's UI designers!!!??? — Sod Almighty 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Passer By
May I also suggest the first question reviewer be handed a ban on reviewing... — Passer By 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
250 views in 12 years is a good indicator that this question is not that important so nothing should be done. The site and searching engine are doing their job — Temani Afif just now
 
9:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AakashM
"getting in the way" getting in the way of what?? — AakashM 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
Agreed you shouldn't reopen, but you can comment to explain that you think the duplicate isn't helpful, but that there are problems with the question which need to be fixed. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
 
9:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lino
That question title makes zero sense... — Lino 37 secs ago
 
9:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Gosh, I wish software would not be used after 12 years… — MisterMiyagi 17 secs ago
 
9:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tsyvarev
"Since OP is clearly showing an effort to fix the question by listening to feedback" - Which exact feedback has been fixed? The one 'please give us a "minimal reproducable example"'? - Even the input has been deleted from the post. Or the one 'to which silly mistakes are you referring?'? Nothing has been explained in this aspect. Whatever changes have been made, the question post doesn't look like the one which should ever exist on Stack Overflow. Undeleting the question just for give OP some directions... Well, I expect some other mechanisms should be used for that purpose. — Tsyvarev 46 secs ago
 
10:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@Tsyvarev: As I already stated in my post, I had posted a comment (which I have now deleted) asking OP not to ask two unrelated questions in the same question. Afterwards, OP followed my advice by reducing the question to a single question. Therefore, it is my opinion that OP has fully complied with the feedback that I gave them. Also, your complaint about OP deleting input is not justified, because that input was part of the second question, which OP has removed. It was correct for OP to remove everything releated to that question, because it was inappropriate to ask two questions in one. — Andreas Wenzel 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@Tsyvarev: I believe that OP has also sufficiently addressed the feedback asking for clarification about what they mean with "silly mistakes". In OP's most recent edit, they added the statement that the program is not showing any output. Therefore, it appears obvious to me that OP is asking how to fix the bug in the program that is causing it not to show any output. I agree that the wording of the question should be improved (either by OP or by the community) before the question is reopened, but I do not believe that this warrants the question to remain deleted. — Andreas Wenzel 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SaschaM78
The link contained in the question gives a "Page not found" error, seems the mentioned question has been deleted. — SaschaM78 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@Lino: I agree that the title of the question is not useful. That is one of the reasons why I believe the question should not be reopened yet. However, this can be easily fixed, once OP has provided sufficient information so that an appropriate title can be selected. Since OP has been very cooperative so far by listening to all feedback and acting on it, I do believe that there is a high probability that OP will provide the necessary information. — Andreas Wenzel 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
How is such a question as currently written going to be helpful to future visitors? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 13 secs ago
 
11:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@HovercraftFullOfEels: I never claimed that the question is helpful in its current state. In fact, I downvoted the question myself, because I consider it not helpful in its current state. I only intend to remove my downvote once the question has been fixed. My only objection is that the question should not be in a deleted state, because this prevents users from posting additional feedback to help OP to fix the question. In my opinion, this does not seem fair to OP, because so far, OP has addressed all the feedback that was given to them. — Andreas Wenzel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Needs Improvement -> Unclear would be a better flag in my opinion. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
That specific one can also be flagged as off-topic, as it's about updating grub. Seems better on Unix & Linux. — Gino Mempin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LinFelix
Where can I figure out which flags call for immediate deletion and which do not? The description of 'severe formatting problems` could be argued for.. — LinFelix 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Unfortunately, the flagging modal is a little messy. The options "a duplicate" and "needs improvement" lead to question closure. Others send it to mod queue, which usually means deletion by mods, account suspension or account deletion. For all other issues, you can use custom flag reason (in need of moderator attention). — Dharman ♦ 33 secs ago
 
11:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
I agree with @OP actually, Low Quality + Unclear "at the moment" (from the Screenshot), but the Qt (Question) is salvageable, ... but Qt opened 5h ago => closed 4h ago, => the Asker (on 'Main') only had 1h to react to Comments and improve the Content/Quality before their Qt got deleted without any pardon... The Qt should/could have been closed as 'Unclear', but I don't see "the" Reason to delete it within 1h... — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Note: The sample input and output was removed in revision 3 (the currently latest) — Peter Mortensen 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
That question would not be a problem in one of the homework tags. The answerers would happily take on all of the work. — Peter Mortensen 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joy
@ZoestandswithUkraine - we had a live Q&A experience during the event that we posted throughout the sessions and everyone had access to it. This question was to collect any questions that people from the community felt needed more explanation or if they wanted to provide feedback on what they saw. — Joy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joy
@Laurel - yes, we'll be doing a blog recap for everyone. — Joy 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Perfect Use Case for the 'Staging Ground', I would think... :idea: — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@LinFelix "severe formatting problems" usually means it's not fixable by an edit by any user other than the author. Of course, almost anything can be re-written completely but consider reasonable edit. Different people would have different definition for what is reasonable to edit but I think all would agree that the edit needed to make the question you mentioned not have formatting problems is trivial. stackoverflow.com/posts/73849837/revisionsVLAZ 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@PeterMortensen: OP originally asked two questions inside the same question. The input and output you are referring to is related to the second question, not the first question. After I told OP that they should not ask multiple unrelated questions in the same question, OP correctly removed everything related to the second question, including the input and output you are referring to. — Andreas Wenzel 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Gino Mempin: Yes, it doesn't appear to be about software development at all. — Peter Mortensen 40 secs ago
 
12:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Will the presentations be available on the YouTube channel, Odysee, or similar? — Peter Mortensen 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(One message is "We use a third-party event platform for this page. Please accept functional cookies to browse the agenda.".) — Peter Mortensen 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is "git force fulling"? "fulling" looks like a typo. "pulling"? "filling"? Something else? — Peter Mortensen 48 secs ago
 
12:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Not in the example, but sometimes for avoiding the need to use horizontal scrolling (for readability). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
12:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Please note that any question could have multiple valid close reasons at once. Too broad questions are almost per definition also unclear. Questions lacking reproducible code are unclear. A question asking which is the best tool is both a recommendation question and primarily opinion-based. Any problematic question for whatever reason, could also be a duplicate. And so on. The important thing is that the question gets closed, the reason why is secondary. Though in case there are multiple problems it's always nice to the OP know that through comments. — Lundin just now
 
1:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
It reminds me of the classic trivia team name, "Often Wrong, But Never In Doubt" — TylerH 1 min ago
 
1:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
So why not rewrite the question? Please note that "UPDATE"s are very confusing. I read the question for the first time in the form that it's currently presented, so I don't understand why you have such clause at the end. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
 
2:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
When I click on your link, I don't see +50, like in your image. — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PavoDive
I can see this going out of control with people adding answers with some minor comments and/or explanations that add to an answer posted before (potentially ad infinitum...) — PavoDive 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aronchick
oh, because i didn't want to hide the context of the original comments. To be clear, i think the reason for close is correct, but I wanted to make sure it was still valuable for future searchers. — aronchick 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Edits are supposed to invalidate comments. The whole purpose of comments is to ask for clarifications to the question. The proper reply to comments is editing the post. Once you address the comments through the edit, you can flag comments as no longer needed — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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4:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
OP can edit deleted questions in shape before un-deletion... I don't see how un-deletion at in this state for question that is subject to meta-effect is good idea (unless your goal is to make OP q-banned ASAP). You may want to clarify why do you think -7 vote count will not turn into -100... — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
5:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Honestly, how to pivot is SQL Server is a pretty common question, and we do have several duplicate candidates for it. For the OP, where they want to pivot on the row number, one such example is Group by column and multiple Rows into One Row multiple columns, where I demonstrate both a static and dynamic version. A search of "how to pivot without aggregation in SQL Server" gives good results too. — Larnu 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I must admit, the question isn't "too broad" but if it is reopened, I would likely choose to "hammer it" of at least one duplicate candidate. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
 
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6:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aronchick
Interesting! Will do for the future i guess - since this one is closed. Still would be a bummer if this got excluded from SEO/search tool because it's closed. — aronchick 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
But why give up on this question? Closed just means that it's pending further edits from its author. — Dharman ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
This isn't the right conclusion; there is a separate closure reason for that, closed as duplicate. — Larnu 8 secs ago
 
7:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sytech
Feedback on GitLab collective decommissioning: I have been the top contributor to the GitLab collective for some time. The collective leaderboard is pretty much the only thing that motivated me to contribute there. Hate to see it go. — sytech 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by davidbak
w.r.t. GitLab the statement is remarkable in that it doesn't point to a single thing that actually led to the discontinuation - instead it highlights how well things were going with GitLab cooperation. So, these things just come and go based on unannounced criteria? Why would anyone get involved with this? Either as a contributor or as a sponsor? Or even just reading the "articles"? — davidbak 33 secs ago
 
7:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharmaraj
Collectives definitely are helpful to discover related QAs and the articles. I would've loved to see collectives around (maybe just add some label that it's decommissioned). For now it looks like all answers by recognized members seem to be technically "recommended" (they show up when you have "has recommended answer" filter in collective page) and "recognized" members seems to be someone the company knows or employees irrespective of the Stackoverflow contributions. — Dharmaraj 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
The author (I located their profile), has no other questions, so they are in no danger to be question banned. They joined today, so the likelihood of having a ton of deleted questions, is unlikely. I would agree the question is not yet in a format that justifies it NOT being deleted. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Hi HegeGabi, welcome to the Stack Overflow Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 1 min ago
 
8:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"My only objection is that the question should not be in a deleted state, because this prevents users from posting additional feedback to help OP to fix the question." I am skeptical. If the question is this bad, what are we supposed to say? OP needs to start over with How to Ask/tour. — Karl Knechtel 50 secs ago
 
9:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by allejo
For the folks comfortable with Tampermonkey, you could write a script to change the unified-theme class on SO's <body> to theme-dark and things should mostly work fine; there are some exceptions to this such as charts. This wouldn't work on network websites, however, since those sites haven't had their themes updated for dark mode. — allejo ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@AlexeiLevenkov: In your comment, you wrote: "OP can edit deleted questions in shape before un-deletion" -- Yes, and that is precisely what OP has done. After the question was deleted, OP has listented to and acted on all existing comments at that time, including my (now deleted comment) to not ask several unrelated questions inside the same question. Since OP is obviously showing an effort to fix the question, it would now be appropriate to write further comments to tell OP how to fix the question, but this is not possible while the question is in a deleted state. — Andreas Wenzel 47 secs ago
 
9:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@Tsyvarev: In your comment, you wrote: "Undeleting the question just for give OP some directions... Well, I expect some other mechanisms should be used for that purpose." -- Which "other mechanisms" are you referring to? As far as I know, there are no such "other mechanisms". Therefore, it seems unfair not to provide OP with further guidance on how to fix the question, especially since up to now, OP has listented to and acted on all feedback on how to improve the question. — Andreas Wenzel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@AndreasWenzel the current state of the linked question calls for -20 votes... I would not unleash that on anyone myslef... Indeed it is a problem to communicate with someone who do not have any other contributions... but opening such question to meta-effect is not something I would do just to give link to [mre] (which no one provided in comments first). — Alexei Levenkov 35 secs ago
 
10:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
"Staff has been largely ignoring bug questions for months now. Most don't even get a [status-review] tag anymore" – In general, I think there are too many posts on meta for developers to be reasonably expected to see them all. However, adding the [status-review] tag to a post (per this process) does create a ticket for us internally, which CMs then triage to the appropriate person/team. As you can see, quite a few bugs have been fixed, though there are always more. — V2Blast ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tsyvarev
@AndreasWenzel: "Which "other mechanisms" are you referring to?" - I don't know whether someone can invite the OP into the chat. But if this is impossible, then even the mod message looks better than undeleting the question. Yes, I am aware that a mod message should be used only in very important cases, but undeleting such question is even worse. — Tsyvarev 12 secs ago
 
10:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tsyvarev
"I believe that OP has also sufficiently addressed the feedback asking for clarification about what they mean with "silly mistakes". In OP's most recent edit, they added the statement that the program is not showing any output." - Such a useless statement about the problem. There is only one output statement in the code - cout<<x-y - and this statement is executed conditionally. The obvious reason of absent output is that the condition x >= y is evaluated to false. Most likely the OP is aware about such possibility. So, we return to the beginning: what exactly is not clear to OP? — Tsyvarev 33 secs ago
 
11:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Wenzel
@Tsyvarev: My guess is that OP is unaware of how to use an else statement. I agree that the question requires further clarification and should therefore not be reopened yet. All I am asking for is that the question gets undeleted, so that users can post comments to the question asking OP for clarification and further information. — Andreas Wenzel 6 secs ago
 
11:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
By your response, then the documentation is wrong? When it says you must flag to choose other? — James Risner 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user16217248
What is an example of 'needs immediate deletion, but is not spam or abusive?' — user16217248 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@user16217248 Ahh, what an excellent question. Please let us know once you find an answer. :) Moderators would like to know that as well. — Dharman ♦ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
You have to refresh the page. This bug has been there for a long time now and SE is not interested in fixing it. — Dharman ♦ 29 secs ago
 

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