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12:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I, for one, would love for terrible questions in the python tag to be stuck in a queue indefinitely. Even more if the asker has to withdraw the question in order to try again (equivalently, edit to start from scratch). I can understand how proposals like this cause a problem for unpopular tags. But how is approving questions, under such a system, any harder than upvoting them? How is that any harder than downvoting them? I already look at multiple questions a day and evaluate them for quality. This is just inverting the polarity of the check, making a whitelist instead of a blacklist. — Karl Knechtel 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"We require an incentive for people to participate in what would be more labor-intense than a review queue." I don't understand why it would be more labour-intensive. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@John Yes, this is the place to ask about what site to ask at. But you got your answer, there isn't one. What is the point of your last comment? — philipxy 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
The original feature-request meta.stackoverflow.com/a/274634 I think only staff can add these, per meta.stackexchange.com/questions/298887cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@Larnu Ironic you just used inline code format inappropriately to say don't use inline code format inappropriately. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@pppery I don't think that answers the question; that only seems to show that there was demand for such a message on the regex tag, and that it was emulating an existing message on the sql tag. That doesn't tell me anything about how these messages are created, or who can create or edit them. — Karl Knechtel 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@cigien the meta.SE link seems to be exactly what I'm looking for, thanks. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
1:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew Reese
@KenWilliams Care to explain/define exactly what "overapplication of the XY principle" means? It's extremely common to be able to quickly understand the issue with solution Y the OP is asking about, and asking why they are trying to do that or getting to the root issue X is a great way to provide an answer "...you can't. Here's why... This is what you can do instead...". — Drew Reese 5 secs ago
 
 
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2:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@AnonCoward The question could probably use an answer that explains why the security boundary needs to be crossed for this. I think I understand, but it doesn't seem obvious. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
3:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
It case it was unclear, the removal of your previous question here was meant to indicate that [meta] is not the appropriate place for this question. — Henry Ecker 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
 
3:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anon Coward
@KarlKnechtel All right then, I tried my best to explain it. I mostly avoid over long explanations like this, since I'm told I come off condescending, but I honestly tried to be as simplistic and straightforward as possible. It's a surprisingly complex question. — Anon Coward 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anon Coward
And for the record, I only know this because ages ago I dug into the madness of how Screen Savers work since I wanted a feed reader to be able to pop up messages over the screen saver. That code is long gone, but apparently the pain isn't. — Anon Coward 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by java-addict301
@ZoestandswithUkraine what are we to do with the offensive tag then? You keep saying it's a discussion for another time but what if this tag is a COC violation? — java-addict301 1 min ago
 
4:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@HereticMonkey Sure. "Is it possible to install Visual Studio without administrative access?" seems perfectly on-topic. It's specific to the programming tool, and the answer might conceivably go into functionality that is specific to programming. For example (I'm just making this up; I don't actually know the answer), maybe everything works normally, except that you can't attach to running processes to debug since that requires administrative rights. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skomisa
You missed the approach which was successful for the OP: post about the situation here. — skomisa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yarco
Well, you are lucky! Because when I asked here, there are 2/7 chance they vote down or vote for close the question even I registered for over 9 years. — Yarco 20 secs ago
 
5:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
@java-addict301 burninations aren't for code of conduct violations. If someone makes a tag with an unambiguous racial slur (or any other slur for that matter), mods and/or CMs handle it, depending on how its flagged (read: flag vs. "contact us"). However, and again, this has never happened as far as I'm aware, because the 1.5k rep requirement for making tags blocks just about every single troll who thinks doing that is funny. Neither master nor slave are classified as slurs, though both of them can be used an insulting way. However, this tag isn't a code of conduct violation — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
The CoC states two relevant lines: no harassment and no bigotry. Harassment requires active action; someone using the word "master" against you intentionally to cause damage (I don't have any examples off the top of my head) qualifies. A tag name does not. Bigotry, on the other hand, has a strong dictionary definition: "the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life". "master" alone simply doesn't live up to that in modern use of the word. Slurs generally classify as bigotry, but — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
"master" isn't classified as a slur. Even the movement to get rid of it claimed negative connotations to slavery, and that's wildly different from a slur. Such reasons give grounds for renames (except when conflicting with entity names, those renames are up to the organization or people involved), not burninations, and are not CoC violations — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
If you have reason to believe otherwise, use the "contact us" link on the bottom of the page and let the CMs sort it out — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 49 secs ago
 
5:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 
6:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
That is intentional to demonstrate misuse, @philipxy . Notice VLAZ does the same with the bold. There's no irony. — Larnu 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@skomisa: I intentionally avoided recommending that. Don't think we want that to become a popular custom. — einpoklum 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@Larnu VLAZ was unambiguous. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I fail to see how the statement "Don't use inline code markdown for something that isn't code." Is ambiguous, @philipxy . — Larnu 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matt
Now it occurs again (August 2022), and I suppose it is especially slow when using Chrome (I usually browse with Chrome, and when it occurred I switched to Edge where it was still responsive). — Matt 1 min ago
 
6:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@Matt Please open a new question rather than trying to re-use this one. It's virtually guaranteed to be a different cause. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@Larnu What is ambiguous is whether you were knowingly misusing markdown. — philipxy 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@Larnu What is ambiguous is whether you were knowingly misusing markdown. I'm done with this now. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Just because both answers are correct doesn't make them "of equal quality". Acceptance is entirely up to OP's discretion, and there is no requirement to accept an answer at all. — Karl Knechtel 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Please read How to Ask, and try looking at highly-voted questions in relevant tags, to get a sense of what questions should look like. — Karl Knechtel 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DialFrost
@KarlKnechtel but both of the answers consist of just code — DialFrost 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Wikipedia is way more different from SO, okay?" Only because people misuse it. In concept, Stack Overflow is probably the most Wikipedia-like place on the Internet for questions about writing code. — Karl Knechtel 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Putting aside the actual opinion expressed, this is an off-topic rant about why people don't like Stack Overflow. It does not address the topic at hand, which is how to respond to individuals who end up disliking Stack Overflow. Voted to delete. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Does this answer your question? How to update and accept answersRobert Longson 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
FWIW, I think your answer is better written (I'm not sure offhand which offers the better solution). You include some meaningful explanation and a relevant documentation link. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
7:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Does this answer your question? Taking a look in the [mirror]Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dan1st
My question was more about whether this was agreed upon/making sure it is documented. — dan1st 1 min ago
 
8:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user000001
The duplicate is wrong. That one asks how to technically accept an answer, this one asks for the criteria used for choosing one in this specific situation. Voted to reopen. — user000001 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@user000001 the duplicate says The bottom line is that you should accept the answer that you found to be the most helpful to you, personally. so why doesn't that answer the question? — Robert Longson 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user000001
@RobertLongson: So? That is general and not tailored to this specific question. Regardless, the questions are different, we don't close questions just because one line of the linked question's answer provides relevant info to the first question. — user000001 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@user000001 It's true in all cases, it's the OPs choice which answer to accept and entirely their choice. We certainly do close questions when the answer to the other question answers this one, in fact that's pretty much the definition of duplicate. *This question already has an answer here:Robert Longson 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user000001
@RobertLongson. No, it's really not. — user000001 1 min ago
 
9:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"I see that your forum is for own personal interest is" Stack Overflow is not a forum; treating it like one will end up with a poor experience. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I must admit, this reads more like a rant than anything else; you aren't asking anything here. It's clear that you don't understand the site, as you reference it as a forum multiple times. As a member for over 6 years, you're also yet to take the tour; that will actually explain many of your misgivings of the site. You were prompted to read that when you signed up, so I really suggest you do. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
As for deleting your account, if you really want to do this you can (you need to take this action, a meta post won't put it into motion), but just know this'll likely make any account you make in the future suffer rate limits immediately, and it will be impossible for you to make attempts to improve the posts causing that rate limit, as they won't be affliated with your account. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
9:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
The question ban is an automatic system to the point that not even moderators can override its decision. Your ban is most certainly not due to anyone's personal interest. The purpose of the ban is to ensure the quality of the knowledge library that is Stack Overflow – in other words, the entire point is to put the common interest above your personal interest . Instead of aggravating people with blatantly false accusations and threats, how about familiarising yourself with the rules of this platform so that you can commit to the common interest? — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@skomisa He had a good attitude and wasn't complaining. That's why it worked. And the question wasn't bad. It could have easily backfired in any number of ways. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
"I can take legal action" No, you cannot do that even if you wanted to. Stack Overflow is a private company which granted you the privilege to ask questions, and they are free to revoke that privilege as well. And in this case it was not unwarranted: even if just looking at the 19 non-deleted questions, only 4 questions have a positive score (of 1), and 5 of them have a negative score. This is not good. — E_net4 the comment flagger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Many of your contributions to the site suffer from quality issues. Some of your questions aren't even useful here because they were caused by a typo. It seems that you treat Stack Overflow like some kind of forum or free help desk. The system correctly prevents you from submitting more. The more low quality posts you make, the less overall quality of Stack Overflow. You can contribute more, but you need to learn how this site works and how to contribute in a useful way. — Dharman ♦ 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Don't ask questions because you want to know the answer, ask questions because you want others to know the answer. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christoph Rackwitz
note: I've retagged those Unity3D Mirror (networking) questions as unity3d-mirror... just so nobody gets the idea that "mirror-networking", as a tag, is a thing (it should not be) — Christoph Rackwitz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eliseo
@mortpiedra, why not edit your question? I check the questions by Activity (not by Newer) and I imagine I'm not unique (About your question, sorry, I don't know about pynton) — Eliseo 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@TheMaster: That might be true for OP, but I said I was offering a general answer. — einpoklum 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christoph Rackwitz
I'm the one who did it. tags have meaning in themselves, regardless of what someone once had the gall to edit the tag wiki to say. "mirror" is too broad, and clearly not only for Unity3D questions. this site (all of stackexchange) frustrates me with its lack of tools for proper housekeeping, and the seeming requirement to debate obvious actions because they go against unreasonable customs. there is a lot more housekeeping I regard as necessary (matchtemplate vs template-matching) but I'm actually afraid to even ask because the outcome might be inaction. — Christoph Rackwitz 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christoph Rackwitz
note: the new tag turned out to be unet-neural-networkChristoph Rackwitz 45 secs ago
 
11:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
@Dharman Your last comment should be what people see first when signing up to SO! — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christoph Rackwitz
note: I did not simply replace all unity3d+mirror tagging with unity3d-mirror. some unity3d+mirror questions actually aren't about networking but about mirroring (something visible). there is no way to do this other than manually. — Christoph Rackwitz 59 secs ago
 
12:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Smith
@Yarco - yeah meta can certainly be capricious and unpredictable. On another day this question could have received an entirely different reception. — Martin Smith 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Szczesny
Both answers are correct but not equally helpful. The solution with np.hstack from np.dstacks is not trivially applicable (and 2x slower) for the actual use case (grid of 16x16 chunks of 3D arrays) mentioned. — Michael Szczesny 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Does this have anything to do with Stack Overflow? Is the H3 tag on Stack Overflow page? — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rand Random
or raise awarness by posting on meta.stackoverflow, seemed to have work. — Rand Random 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by galeksandrp
Is it possible to conditionally replace this tag with mysql-master, <VCS_NAME>-master (or vcs-master simply), aspnet-master. — galeksandrp 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
[ Boson ] New comment posted by clockw0rk
reposting a duplicate is only discuraged because the marketing of SO is afraid of their so-holy google search results. if you can get an answere to your question, ANY ends justify the means, after all, it's your question, which should have a higher concern than any community interests — clockw0rk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
If there is absolutely no other consideration distinguishing merit, reward the person with lower reputation. — Nick Cox 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DialFrost
@NickCox Why is that so? — DialFrost 22 secs ago
 
12:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Yunnosch: The ability to change submitted content is not common on other media (e.g., most forums, Twitter, IRC, etc.) so it is not surprising it is an unknown concept. Use of the word "edit" doesn't make it any better. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yunnosch
@PeterMortensen Does the use of a link to the editing screen help? (or did somebody change the word to a link during migration to meta?) I tend to use the linking word edit. — Yunnosch 56 secs ago
 
1:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
The target duplicate that was originally chosen was pretty darn good and the question here isn't explicitly asking to discern the technicality between these two answers, @user000001, but rather "how to choose between multiple correct answers" which is a general question. I've made the slightest edit to the target canonical to make it more palatable for the concern you raised and have re-closed this. — TylerH 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@DialFrost Askers should not accept an answer based on the answer authors' reputation; please don't listen to such suggestions. Answers should be accepted based on which solution the asker ended up using or most led the asker to their desired goal, or if a theoretical question which solution provided the best (in the author's opinion) explanation or code. — TylerH 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
This does not seem to work, unfortunately. Multiple times with trending sort active, I have visited questions with old, 1-score or 2-score answers (who have been that score for > 1 year) that appear above newer answers, and when I upvote the newer answer and refresh the page, the ordering is the same. How is trending sort supposed to work in these cases? I would expect it to always see the new vote and say "rank this higher than any answers of the same score who were upvoted in the past by at least n weeks/months/years" or something. At this point I can't discern any effect from it. — TylerH just now
 
1:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
@computercarguy well there are some survival bias here. People make mistakes sometimes (mistakenly assume OP did not try solution X while they did, or mistakenly assume X is a solution while it's not), but over 10000000 questions or so it builds up, and there ends up being some frustrating OP complaining. — user202729 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Sgdva what kind of topics? Installing software? Any user focused SE could work. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
@Braiam that is not really a good example. In your case, the X is "reduce outdated answers", the Y is "alternative sorting". In this case, "how to get screensaver running, but stop it when Bluetooth data arrives" is something that OP reasonably want by itself. (... that having said, if you are really strict the actual X here is "how to get something-similar-to-a-screensaver on the screen but stop it when Bluetooth data arrives", so that can also be implemented by, I guess, disabling the screensaver entirely and reimplement the functionality in Python. But I don't think that differs much) — user202729 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sgdva
@Braiam exactly that, thanks! — Sgdva 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@kusocodeing "and is" is there for a reason. That argument is programming on a boat, just because you are a programmer and use it isn't enough. Just because you are a programmer and have a problem isn't enough. It has to be a issue exclusive to the context of programming. For example, licensing questions are off topic, despite being important for selecting some stuff. — Braiam 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
To be fair "general answers" are already at the "general post" i.e. How do I get attention for one of my own questions without a good answer? - Meta Stack Exchange. Anyway... thinking about it what exactly is bad about bumping question (without any progress)? (I mean it gives you unfair advantage against those who do not bump, but if everyone does that they you don't really get anything) — user202729 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
@TylerH Caching. It only updates the sort every 48 hours or so. — Catija ♦ 6 secs ago
 
2:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@clockw0rk: Disagree. Reposting many dupes means a lot of extra work for users who answer and do triage. — einpoklum 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Charlieface
Questions about SQL Server's master database should be re-tagged how? — Charlieface 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
I have no idea; feel free to add it to the guidance. The guidance isn't a guaranteed exhaustive list (as evidenced by the lack of SQL guidance, and a couple other tags mentioned in Braiam's answer), and these answers are community wikis to encourage editing — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
There is emphasis almost everywhere on the OP's discretion in accepting an answer and a recommendation that they reward merit. It's too rule-obsessed to insist that other criteria might not apply and a tad discourteous to urge "don't listen" to other suggestions. To repeat, if there is no perception of differing merit, then go for the person most in need of, and most likely to appreciate, the small boost in reputation. I have 33K and am really delighted if good people in my small corner of SO with more like 300 or 3K can get the extra reputation for their work if their answer is as good. — Nick Cox just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@einpoklum, that sounds more like a problem of SE hiring people to do the work, instead of relying on volunteers. Of the likely +99% of the world businesses, if they aren't keeping up with their business and services, they have to hire more people, not whine or let their customers whine about how not enough work is being done. And maybe, if users weren't spending so much time working the queues, they could be answering questions instead. — computercarguy 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
Should we end [maintenance] of this tag? — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight just now
 
3:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IMSoP
@computercarguy Who would actually benefit from a world where users were encouraged to post duplicates, and staff were paid to clean them up? The staff would get paid, I guess, but that would at best be money diverted from other improvements, and at worst an extra cost to be made up by further commercialising the project, rather than investing in the community. It's like deliberately dropping litter because you know there's someone being paid to clean it up; an entirely negative action. — IMSoP just now
 
3:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
Some of these questions are about a single well-defined topic. For example, the Laravel questions are almost all about the built in "maintenance mode" (php artisan down). This may be true for other techs but I'm not sure if we need a tag (maintenance-mode is slightly better). — Laurel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marijn
@Kos while I also interpreted the quote like that (i.e., accessibility bugs can be reported as answers here), you could also read the quote as "when the changes resulting from this initiative are implemented and there is an issue with that implementation, please report it here". So not general accessibility issues, just new bugs in releases prompted by the findings of the audit firm. — Marijn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
@Laurel yeah, the burnination candidate is present on many similar well-defined topics that could use a specific tag instead. Methinks it's a good idea for observations & retag guidance should the proposal reach the next stage. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DerekG
While this is certainly kind, and is perhaps a one-off solution to the OP's problem, this doesn't actually solve the meta-problem of "how can SO better highlight the real gaps in information / burning questions if these questions are posted by people with relatively little SO experience?" The meta answer within your question would essentially be to rely on the innate curiosity of people with reputation but not direct experience to elevate your question to greater attention, which isn't really satistying / realistic in most cases — DerekG 1 min ago
 
4:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jim G.
+1: Explain what you've tried. — Jim G. 7 secs ago
 
4:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@IMSoP, let me rephrase it for you: Who benefits from all moderation on SE sites being done by free labor? Should your employer give your job to an unpaid intern or a user? It's great that people want to volunteer to help a business out, but a business demanding that people work for free is a lot like slavery. BTW, unpaid internships have been found to be detrimental to the intern as well as other employees, in that they give employers excuses to reduce pay and it reduces the person's self-worth, so they are being phased out in favor of paid internships. — computercarguy 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@IMSoP, and who says commercializing SE is detrimental? SE, the company, has passed over ways to make money, like when they shut down the job portal. Any company that refuses to hire people to keep up with demand is not going to survive long, or is going to stop growing. SE is beyond the point where they can service their app if all volunteers stop, so the site would fail due since it would quickly become a swamp. And if you are saying that paying people is worse than not paying people, I don't understand that. — computercarguy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IMSoP
@computercarguy You're misunderstanding my point; I'm not saying "the moderation should all be done for free", I'm saying "the community benefits from reducing the need for moderation whether it's free or paid". A user having the self-restraint not to post a duplicate which they know will create work for a moderator is not "free labor"; it's irrelevant whether the moderation is paid, unpaid, or done by an AI, the user shouldn't post the duplicate in the first place, because it doesn't benefit anybody. — IMSoP 1 min ago
 
4:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@RyanM Hmm... Five years later, I still think getting IT to help install VS is not on-topic for SO. Also, "Is it possible" Qs rarely go over well, so I'd say encouraging them is something mods should refrain from doing. "How to install Visual Studio without administrative access?" might be on-topic, but that wasn't what my comment was about. It was specifically a rejoinder to Cody's question, "Do you get the IT department to help you fix configuration problems with Visual Studio?" And I don't think that getting better help on a Q&A site for programmers is a good reason to allow Qs on site... — Heretic Monkey 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
... because by that logic recommendation questions should be on-topic, as should hardware questions (programmers work with hardware all the time in the course of programming). — Heretic Monkey 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@IMSoP, then you are misunderstanding my point. I never said users shouldn't show restraint in posting questions or answers. I said SE, the company, should be hiring people to do moderation instead of relying on free labor. And that goes way beyond taking care of dupes. Paying staff moderators would solve a lot of problems and likely allow mods to spend more time trying to teach newbies how to use the site instead of posting dupes. — computercarguy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@NicolBolas So keep them all. It's audacious hubris to think human curators can do a better job than a search engine. — Kevin Krumwiede 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IMSoP
@computercarguy But why is any of that relevant to the discussion at hand? The OP asked "should I post a dupe?" The answer is "no, that won't help, and will just annoy people". That answer would remain correct even if SE somehow found funds to employ a thousand people full-time closing duplicates - the duplicate would still be unnecessary noise, and not help the OP. — IMSoP 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@IMSoP, maybe you should read the comment I was responding to, as it was relevant to that comment. — computercarguy 12 secs ago
 
5:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
What's the actual question? — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rosie
@Kos Marjin and Steve are correct. Since this isn't a bug or planned fix mentioned this would be best submitted as a new question vs an answer here. — Rosie ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
You give an answer in this meta post that you believe is the more correct way, why not mention it in your actual answer too? Addressing both the X & Y problems is also a valid option :) — Abdul Aziz Barkat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@computercarguy: "that sounds more like a problem of SE hiring people " <- I don't think of this repository of Q&A is SE's business. They may have legal ownership, but morally and socially they're stewards of a public resource. And we don't want dupe questions. — einpoklum 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skomisa
Shouldn't "...less than 3k reputation" be "...more than 3k reputation"? — skomisa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
This limitation should be gone as of July 28th, votes should update the Trending score on the next refresh. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@NicolBolas You don't have to sift through any of them; a search engine can do that. People with domain knowledge already don't consider SO worth their time. The vast majority of developers refuse to use this site because of the super-aggressive question closure. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@TylerH the problem with caching should be fixed as of July 28th and I've updated this post to reflect that. If you're still seeing stale Trending scores please let us know and also link the question/answer you're seeing the problem on. Would be strange if a single upvote today doesn't beat an old single upvote. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I mean ... sure ... but that last sentence ... shouldn't it be better if we don't lower ourselves to the rock bottom of civilized discourse? You for sure should be able to pick words that mean toxic but don't read that way. — rene just now
 
6:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anon Coward
That's fair. I added a bit about the inherit XY problem to my response. I'm still on the fence if it makes the answer better, but it does (hopefully) help other users that might stumble across the answer. — Anon Coward 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Thanks @Catija and Kyle; I haven't checked since July (I tried it a lot before August). I will give it another go soon. — TylerH 9 secs ago
 
6:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
@rene Fair point, I'll edit. — EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine 30 secs ago
 
6:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@user202729 no, the X is "making sure that information on the site doesn't get stale and when it does we can deal with it". Why I want to reduce outdated answers, I do not care that the answer is obsolete, I care that there's an answer that is up-to-date and that it is the first one. — Braiam 27 secs ago
 
6:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@einpoklum, what is it about administering SE's rules, Code of Conduct, etc. isn't any of SE's business? And no, this isn't a public resource. This is a resource the public uses, but it's not a public resource. Do you consider FB, Quora, Reddit, Google, etc. to be public resources? I hope not. Also, a steward manages customers, not the business side of things. And when is a business not supposed to manage the content on their site? — computercarguy 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Always start with an edit. Only when they revert it or edit it back in it is early enough to raise a mod flag. And by following that advice there is also easy evidence for the mod to check out. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Unless the post is entirely an unsalvageable sweary rant, in which case flag it as rude/abusive. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
 
7:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
The CoC is only SE inc's business. It shouldn't be our business. It's imposed and it's terrible, as I've written in the past. As for FB, Google, etc. - they are each their own story. For example, a search DB reflects what's on the public internet and is not user-generated. Anyway, this is getting way off topic. — einpoklum 49 secs ago
 
7:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dennis Kozevnikoff
The word "cascading" means flowing, pouring and gushing, and that "answer" says that this term actually somehow means "fighting", how and why? Who wins, how and why? I downvoted that rant "answer" not because it is obnoxious, but because it is wrong, and does not explain anything. — Dennis Kozevnikoff 11 secs ago
 
 
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8:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
That's fantastic, @PM2Ring. Now, I know exactly where to direct all the people who complain about their regex question being closed as a duplicate! — Cody Gray ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@einpoklum, I should have said "enforcing" instead of "administering", but that should still be up to SE, not entirely on the users. Personally, I think that SE hiring mods and them having to deal with the brunt of the stupidity in their rules, etc. would end up forcing SE to change them. As it is, SE doesn't care because they aren't feeling the pain. — computercarguy 33 secs ago
 
8:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@skomisa Users with more than 3k reputation cannot raise close flags anymore because they gain the privilege to vote to close. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Hi, moderator here who works primarily in C++. I would have declined a NAA flag on that. It's definitely not a rant, and it's definitely an attempt to answer the question. — Cody Gray ♦ 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@HereticMonkey Ah, fair. I may have misunderstood your comment. I thought you were referring to installing VS without administrative access more generally. And you're right, your formulation of the on-topic question about installing VS without administrative access is better than mine. — Ryan M ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"Wait! Is your question about the Android Studio IDE itself, or are you just using it for development? Only use the [android-studio] tag for questions about the features and functionality of the Android Studio IDE itself, not merely because you are writing code using Android Studio. Questions about developing Android apps, whether you're using Android Studio or another IDE, should be tagged only as [android]." — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
isn't writing code using android studio a feature of the android studio ide? — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
9:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@CodyGray Oh, that's much better than mine. It conveys properly that it's a question, rather than detecting an error. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@KarlKnechtel: In principle I wouldn't mind it either, but the expectation of the ownership of the site is that we're somehow meant to volunteer voluntarily to help clear this backlog, which doesn't sound like something I'm gonna do — Makoto 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Oh good, the excerpt was used verbatim, despite @Machavity's warning against it... :( — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
10:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yeah, the main improvement that I was going for was turning around your advice, presenting it in a more actionable order. The "Wait!" is an optional touch, which some might find annoying. — Cody Gray ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It is a bit surreal to read you say this, as you clearly support having an [x86] tag. What is the difference? Why would we not have tags for CPU and GPU ISAs? This makes no sense to me. Cortex-M3 and Cortex-M0 might be too granular; I could understand a proposal to merge them both into Cortex-M (although I see counter-arguments, too). But leading off with the argument that we shouldn't have microarchitecture tags is a big WTF... — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
does this qualify as uselful no --> it doesn't. It is a normla not much frequented tag, that has valid questions and useful anwers. — nbk 1 min ago
 

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