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12:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
SO is a community of volunteers. You could get lucky with some questions and get a quick answer, but if what you need is time sensitive and you don't get lucky, you could certainly pay someone elsewhere. — Kevin B 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TCD
``` Do not open a chat room or answer in comments or otherwise work around the closing. Closed questions are closed for important reasons; they cannot receive answers because answering them (well) is impossible or inappropriate. As such, any workaround to communicate an answer to the asker is going to cause problems: if the question could be answered, it would be open (or in the process of being reopened). ``` it smells authoritarian approach to questions. Maybe those who closed the question don't know that it could be answered. — TCD 22 secs ago
 
1:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Grismar
In that case, maybe it's dependent on theme settings or something of the sort. When I do it, the code formatting seems to override the bold, and it all shows as normal. — Grismar 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
SO is a database of questions and answers populated by a community of volunteers. I do wish the reopen queue had a better turn-around time, but I also wish we had a functional triage that could have pointed out the mistake and probably a duplicate and sent the question back to the asker before the question saw the light of day, but I can guarantee you that people would be just as enthused by "Why was my question returned for correction?" as they are by "Why was my question closed?" PLUS the round trip time through the triage queue would probably be weeks. — user4581301 1 min ago
 
2:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clonkex
I live well outside the world of Python, but over in Javascript world, beginners (very!) frequently mistake jQuery for Javascript or even an entirely different language. Possibly a similar thing is happening here? — Clonkex 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
The vast majority of the questions seem to be related to ROS (and are also tagged ros), so leaving the original tag for MOVEit seems like a bad idea; the tag would still be misused for questions about ROS. I'd suggest moveit-file-transfer for the other tag name. — kaya3 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
If the post has code which reproduces the issue, but that code is not minimal, then an edit which reduces it to a minimal example could be considered "to clarify the meaning of a post without changing it". Otherwise I agree - the normal reason a MCVE is needed is because the OP has not adequately described their problem in order for someone else to know what the meaning of their post actually is, in which case a clarifying edit can't help but change the meaning. — kaya3 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CtrlAltF2
@eis it's a misrepresentation of the content and the motivations for the content. The problem isn't unexpected behavior, the problem is that I, as a consumer in a capitalist economy, need to know when a corporation paid for me to hear about them. — CtrlAltF2 just now
 
 
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5:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: answer you've linked to absolutely deserves downvotes - JavaScript was the language for automating tasks in Windows since Windows 98 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Script_Host) so it is very unclear why the answer states "Learning JavaScript, you will learn the basics of Node" or suggesting that JavaScript is not suitable for that task... — Alexei Levenkov 33 secs ago
 
5:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
To whom would this be "reported"? — Cody Gray ♦ 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Smith
@CodyGray the flags are not meant to add to the moderators queue, they are meant to be taken care of by automated workflows. — Ian Smith 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
What if there are no function names, it's just a snippet? At any rate, I am not familiar with any such tools for the vast majority of technologies covered on this site. Can you give examples? What "automated workflow" would you use to determine that an answer was recommending the C++98 approach, instead of the C++17 approach? What about in assembly language? If the tools don't already exist, who would build and maintain them? And what about the case where someone is specifically using older versions for compatibility reasons? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@SteveBennett It's not about what you find personally satisfying. It's what helps contribute to this site and its mission. What do we need to do in order to persuade you to actually help improve the site, rather than satisfying your own ego? — Cody Gray ♦ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
@CodyGray Well, you could pay me? Short of that, you might just need to accept that volunteer communities work in spite of differing motivations, and that just because someone does something suboptimally, if it's not actually harmful, you can just let them keep doing it if it keeps them happy. — Steve Bennett 1 min ago
 
6:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Smith
I'm not a C++ guy, so I can't really comment on that. My high level view of this is that it's targeted toward very popular pages, with Answers that have 50k+ views where the code in question is not in a grey area. AWS' CodeGuru is an example of a technology that is handling this at scale for companies. StackOverflow could consider building something similar. As time goes on I think the developer community could improve the method in how these workflows would determine old code. — Ian Smith 48 secs ago
 
6:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Those are quite rare, would an automated process even be needed for such cases? I imagine someone with enough motivation could dash through a few dozen of those pretty quickly. Even easier would be to do a code search for known old+bad code. — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
7:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
I would argue over-saturating solutions for the same problem is explicitly harmful to the community and it's functionality — Laif 40 secs ago
 
7:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thum Choon Tat
I like to moveit, moveitThum Choon Tat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
And after the rules have been finalized will come the much harder problem: How to actually convince people to write such high-quality Articles. I doubt that there will be many such high-quality Articles coming soon. It might be a good idea to actually collect ideas for potential Articles. Something like a suggest (and vote on other suggestions) Article box in the Collectives area, if only to show to potential authors that there might be interest in reading about it. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
I oppose 2 and 8 — #2 the leaderboard is just noise, and IIRC it gets updated every 19 hours based on the answer score. It is simply too fluctuating to tie moderation privileges to that. The gold badge and the dupe closure privilege have a strong logical connection instead: the requirement is 1000 score and 200 answers which is a pretty significant contribution to the tag, and the reasoning was that with so many answers under your belt you know what was and was not already asked. Hence the privilege to dupe close. cont — blackgreen 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
#8 the recognized answers feature is actually useful, especially in very popular Q&As about some basic feature of the technology that tend to have many answers in the hundreds. That makes it hard for newcomers to find the best answer among those, and the "recognized" mark helps alleviate that issue. The problem, if anything, is that it is not used enough, or it is used on Q&As with only one answer, with the double negative effect of being redundant, and deterring others form posting more answers. — disclaimer: I speak from the PoV of the Go collective — blackgreen 1 min ago
 
8:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
"What I am absolutly sure about: There were no comments and no upvotes when displayed to me for the review." Because it was an audit meant to test you. "To me it looks like a pure information not a question" While it does not contain a question mark, the title "Fix for "fatal: Authentication failed for"" indicates that it's about how to fix the error. And the question body does not contain the fix. "If I had seen all the comments and upvotes..." Judge the posts on their own merits, not based on comments or votes (upvotes not always reflect post quality or suitability for SO). — Jeanne Dark 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ike
Thanks for the answer - your are absolutly right to not judge on others comments etc. But as I never understood why I have got banned I do look what others say. May I explain how I read this: Title = "Fix for ..." without question mark sounds to me like "I am describing the fix for the error" - and within the body the explanation is "This is because ... there is a bug" - again no question mark ... That's why this post does not look like a question to me - and still does not ... — Ike 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Do you really believe that there is zero bias against low rep users? — TheMaster 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Kaiido This should be a answer — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
It looks like everyone else that voted on the question understood that the author was looking for a workaround or fix for the bug. However, I can see how this post kind of looks like failed attempt at a self Q&A with the first half explaining the issue and the second half explaining that they found where the problem is. — BSMP 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
Deleted answers count towards the ban. — BSMP 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ike
@BSMP - I am pretty sure, that, if I had looked at the post while looking myself for an explanation of the error, I would have upvoted it - but this would have been another context. Reviewing a post has other criteria - as I understood it. — Ike 1 min ago
 
9:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Does this answer your question? Introducing Outdated Answers projectNick 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Yeah I sympathise with you that this is a very misleading audit. But I would stress that if a post looks sketchy like this, it is always best to open them outside of review. Audits fall flat like that real quick. It is not true that you got banned for this though; you got sent on vacation for multiple audit failures. This was just the one that tipped the scales. — Gimby 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You have asked 3 questions: 1, 2 (exact duplicate of #1), and 3, then there was this one, which was totally off-topic for the main site. You've also posted 4 answers: 1, 2, 3, 4. None of these are acceptable-quality contributions on this site. As such, your privileges to contribute content here have been suspended. — Cody Gray ♦ 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ike
@Gimby: As I got banned already several times, it just needs one failure to get banned for a month ... And as I said: I never understood why ... I am sure I am doing the audits with enough concentration and am reading the post thoroughly ... somehow it feels like being treated unfair by a teacher again and again ... I am too old for that ... I doubt I will do reviews again ... — Ike 1 min ago
 
9:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"I'm not a C++ guy, so..." Well, yeah, that's kinda the whole point. You appear to be assuming that the entire world of programming is the small sliver of universe that you know intimately, but that's not the case. Stack Overflow is much broader than a single programming language, and even in the cherry-picked case of Python 2 -> 3, it's not so straightforward as you make it out to be. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Upvotes are not self-explanatory, they feel nice. That is what you're after. But nicety has nothing to do with it. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Seems the problem was you used answers to thank people; that isn't what the answers are for. The answers are for answering, and the 4 answers that Cody has linked are therefore not answers. If you really wanted to thank people you should have made the (small) effort to get 50 reputation, so that you can comment everywhere. Though such comments are likely to be flagged and removed (shortly) afterwards as no longer needed. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
10:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
I agree this question could be misleading (aka bad audit). FWIW, there's another user who failed this audit before you. For now, I have edited the question to explicitly mention the question. As for the current review suspension, we can only wait for mods' response. — Andrew T. 40 secs ago
 
10:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ike
@AndrewT. Thanks! - With the current text I certainly would have clicked "OK" — Ike 1 min ago
 
10:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
The correct way to thank people is to upvote their post. This helps because other people can then see that this was useful. You need 25 reputation points to cast upvotes though. — Dharman 18 secs ago
 
11:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I definitely agree with point #1. I am not sure about the other two as any automatic action by the system needs to be carefully designed to not cause more harm than good. Invalidating reviews isn't solving the problem. However, if we could implement #1 then I think #2 or #3 won't be needed as much. — Dharman 1 min ago
 
11:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
Trilarion, there's an article suggestion tool headed out; it's not exactly the functionality that you discuss but I think it will help. I agree content production is a heavy lift. I also think that getting rules adoption (once we agree on them) is a non-trivial task. — Philippe ♦ 46 secs ago
 
11:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Fabio R.
I think that the best way to address a homework question is: if the OP provided code and wrote a good question just answer it as you normally would, if he just asked how to solve something don't give them a single line of code, try to describe the steps he should take in an easy and comprehensible way and to point him in the right direction so that he understands what he has to study or look for to accomplish the assignment. This would help the student definitely more than making his homework and more than downvoting the question into oblivion. — Fabio R. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
I would think that some sort of closure protocol would be necessary, yes. I think the things that you raise here are all excellent examples of tools that will be necessary at some point in the future to make Articles an integrated part of the knowledge base, for sure. — Philippe ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica - you beat me to it. I was coming here to say exactly that (and also, I realize that I didn't call out specifically your role in constructing those questions. You put a ton of time into it, and it made my job here much easier. Thank you). — Philippe ♦ 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Fabio R.
@Nearoo I think that a similar modal would just get ignored, maybe a better feature would be a FAQ quiz before you can post your first question so that the user is forced to at least read them. Another idea could be to force new users (maybe based on rep) to compile a question template instead of the free box that we have now, so that new users can get used to the correct way of asking a question before letting them write whatever they want — Fabio R. 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
Trilarion, as another data point, our clients are telling us that they have some content for articles, but they're sitting on it until the guidelines are created. So I think it's a little early to make the assumption that we've overestimated the demand. :). You may be right - but this is just another data point. — Philippe ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sayse
@CaiusJard - Thats the eternal september but no, Pandas questions are terrible all year round. — Sayse 17 secs ago
 
12:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
The eternal review trick question: a poorly asked question about a newly introduced bug in a popular developer resource, that becomes popular since hundreds of people experience it at the same time and flock to Stack Overflow, leading the algorithm to think it's a good question. We've had multiple different reports of this exact type of question leading to review bans. — Erik A 1 min ago
 
12:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I think we should treat this tag like other coding challenges tags. — Dharman 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
There seems to be mostly a single user spamming this tag all around. — yivi 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Similar to Burninate Project Euler, this may also be burninated. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
It seems like the user (oh, just noticed you responded at the same time as me, Endzeit, apologies) was burning the aoc but introducing the equally problematic (semantically) tag. Looks like it does need to be burned as a meta tag - if somebody cares to make a burnination request, it will be nice too - I have a suspicion questions under this tag need some culling too — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Rotteveel
@OlegValter What do you think, should I just add tag burninate-request, or does this require more? — Mark Rotteveel 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
I think @Endzeit should put things back the way they were i.e. revert those edits. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Endzeit nothing wrong with trying to fix tagging, but code challenges are not on topic on SO unless the question is really about a specific programming problem and not asking for an alternative solution (optimization of working code goes on Code Review, puzzles - on Code Golf, etc) which makes he tag "meta" as ot does not describe what the question really asks. I would link to the guidelines on that matter, but I am on mobile right mow, and it is a chore to do so from it - I am sure other responders will, though (and urge them to do so) — Oleg Valter 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Mark well, there are quite a few questions with the tag, so the proper procedure requires a burnination request, but I am not sure if it can't be foregone here as the tag falls under the same category as other code challenge tags which have a consensus that they need to be burned [sending smoke signals to Jeanne to find the post if possible]. Simply reverting will likely not do as [aoc] should equally be removed, but we can all proceed chipping away at the tag until it is gone, then wait the for it to be auto-removed — Oleg Valter 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Yeah, until now I wasn’t sure exactly how the leader board functioned (thanks!) so I left that at “broaden”. I don’t know what changes I’d suggest to the leaderboard to make it usable for that purpose, but still think making it more than just a leaderboard would be an overall improvement — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Toby
These comments should really be flagged because it does not answer the question. moreover, it turned out to be a dispute. — Toby 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Rotteveel
@OlegValter You mean the question linked by Andrew T (Burninate Project Euler) — Mark Rotteveel 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
My issue with 8 comes from lack of trust that the people with the ability to use it won’t abuse it or use it poorly, with the given lack of experience with SO. Improvements to that system could change my mind — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@OlegValter "well, there are quite a few questions with the tag" - Only because one person just added them all... — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Toby
@kaya3, no it does not. — Toby 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wovano
@Endzeit, when reverting edits, you might want to use the rollback instead of doing a reverse edit. Not sure if it matters much, but at least it seems to describe the revision history better, IMHO. — wovano 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Potentially because you have the word "move"? Sounds like the sort of broad stroke detection that would be in place. — Nick 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wovano
Regarding the tag, I don't think it will add much, because when looking for solutions, you might as well search on GitHub. Unless the question is specifically about the underlying programming problem, in which case the advent-of-code tag on Stack Overflow is not relevant. — wovano 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
@Zoe does this mean its burninated or blacklisted? — Suraj Rao 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@SurajRao burned for now, I have no idea how to blacklist anyway — Zoe ♦ 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Endzeit
Thanks @Zoe for the help. Im sorry for the inconvenience caused. — Endzeit 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
@Nick that is weird since there is vote to migrate.. (Not sure how it used to be for lower rep) — Suraj Rao 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Nick ah, even easier then :) seems like the problem's solved now — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
 
1:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
This seems like multiple feature requests in one post, most of which have already been proposed and discussed extensively on meta. — kaya3 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
Abusing the "recommended answer" IMO is somewhat not an issue as it lacks a strong motivation. At the very least you pay for a Collective in order to promote your product and at that point authorship of a particular answer you "Recommend" is irrelevant to your goal. A rogue actor may do that to increase their own visibility, but if the pattern of bad recommendations is conspicuous enough, mod flags will be raised. — blackgreen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
@kaya3 I mentionned all question that I found, if you know another, feel free to give link. Also, I propose multiple ways to fix the issue, like a compilation — Elikill58 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Custom flags have been used to ask mods to migrate/move questions to another site. This is why there is a simple check for some words — Dharman 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Collin Dauphinee
Close vote queue is an abomination and the close functionality has been failing to serve its original purpose for years. I suspect getting rid of it all together would open up more resources for other reviews, if nothing else. — Collin Dauphinee 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
@Dharman so I need to change the phrase "move to chat" or drop it entirely... Weird thing to trip over. — Suraj Rao 1 min ago
 
2:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "tell to search on Google": RTFM is not allowed (and never ever needs to be said) — Peter Mortensen 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JNygrenLT
@PeterMortensen No, Visual studio Pro (or Enterprise, or Community). Specifically, for the Git Source Code Control plug-in for Visual Studio 2019 Enterprise. — JNygrenLT 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "tell to search on Google": RTFM/LMGTFY is not allowed (and never ever needs to be said). I presume flagging is right course of action(?) - what is the (authoritative) reference (other than some of the answers)? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Skemp
@kaya3 1) thanks for your edits, especially to the title. :D 2) the reason I found the tag was because I was looking to see if any questions about MOVEit Automation (one of the 'modules') were on SO, or if a different network site would be better, as I've got a question I want to ask about logic options. I didn't check the quality of the questions, but maybe these belong over on SU ... ? There's really just not a lot on any of the SE sites. — James Skemp 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is it? Is it Advent of Code? - "Advent of Code is an annual set of Christmas-themed computer programming challenges that follow an Advent calendar and can be solved using any programming language.". Or something else? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yes, it's triggering the warning on "moved". Lots of people raise flags saying, "this question should be moved to site x". If you're saying "moved to chat", simply ignore the warning. — Cody Gray ♦ 25 secs ago
 
2:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
@CodyGray as the second image shows "success" is false. So the message shows up and flag dialog remains as is. Second click on flag question is successful. — Suraj Rao 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The opposite could be useful - delay voting (up or down) at the very beginning until a question has had a chance to be improved (or closed for good). Many (initial) downvotes are lazy close votes. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Leandro Bardelli
What about users who downvote you every a time lapse? — Leandro Bardelli 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The opposite could be useful - delay voting (up or down) at the very beginning until a question has had a chance to be improved (or closed/deleted for good due to the author's unwillingness to improve it (before any answers by rep hunters)). Many (initial) downvotes are lazy close votes. — Peter Mortensen 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Rotteveel
@PeterMortensen I guess it is. — Mark Rotteveel just now
 
3:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
Thanks for all links. I understand why you think it's not focused. The idea of this post is also to identify problem, and propose solution. It's the following about the backlog question that I ask before, but with largest objective: all review and not only First Question. Also, I didn't find all of those post because I was searching about review, and not just in general :/. — Elikill58 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by camille
@SteveBennett pay you to follow the stated guidelines of the site? If figuring out the answer to something is what's satisfying, you don't have to actually post it. I probably draft twice as many answers as I end up posting — camille 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
That's OK - but yes, if you were searching for posts about the review queue then you were searching for the motivation, not the feature requests themselves. — kaya3 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
"A better question is why do high rep experienced users with gold badges continue to answer blatant duplicates instead of closing them" - what do you mean? That's exactly how they got the rep and gold badges to begin with... By answering any possible question and never closing a question... — Tomerikoo 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Can confirm, that's how i got my gold badges — Kevin B 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
Small correction: "Unfortunately the askers greatly outnumber the answerers" should be curators... There are enough people answering the questions, not enough closing them... — Tomerikoo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Here is another example (with +10/-2. Two (not deleted) answers total). — Peter Mortensen 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Raphael Morgan
I don't think having it as a tag is very useful. Everyone's doing the challenges with different languages etc, and I don't think anyone's going to be more of an expert on advent of code regardless of language than they are on their language regardless of what's being done. At that point they might as well tag it as a logic puzzle. — Raphael Morgan 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@Toby, the comments don't have to answer the question, only the answer does. And we are disputing the validity of this answer, so it's relevant and shouldn't be deleted. — computercarguy 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "I just copy & paste"": Hence the full Stack Overflow developerPeter Mortensen 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB,that's not what I asked. And I think you know it. I also think you know that not tagging me in your response is a tactic used by people who don't want their opinions disputed and want to have the last word. — computercarguy 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Which part wasn't what you asked? At this point, not using @ is just spite, due to how much you're hanging on it. ;) — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, acting like SO/SE is the only free option for people, then saying that if they don't like it they can pay somewhere else is not only false, but also an example of the hostility I'm talking about. — computercarguy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
If you're asking where to ask something within the SO Network where you'd get a timely answer, the answer is nowhere; that's not what this is. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, you only ever tagged me once. So your "spite" for me "hanging on" is basically from the very beginning and exactly what I'm talking about. — computercarguy 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, except that most questions that get answers usually get a prompt answer, then other answers trickle in over the next day. Sometimes up to a week afterwards, rarely after that. If that's not a "timely answer" and not what this network is for, then a whole lot of people, including me, are deceived by how this whole community of sites presents itself, and not just in regular advertising. It's also telling that people advocate for "fast close", but then people like you don't seem to care about "fast answering". At least that's what you're saying here. — computercarguy 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It's not that i don't care, it's that it isn't a guarantee. Never has been, never will be. Therefore complaining that it took 3 days to a week to get an improved question reopened is silly. The goal here is long-term benefit. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
<Insert reference to a Your Common Sense post> (the closest I could find was Should the answer be the simplest ever possible, even at the expense of quality/security?) — Peter Mortensen 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB,"complaining that it took 3 days to a week to get an improved question reopened is silly", only if it's not your own question and you have apathy for anyone who can't ask a question to perfectly meet the very subjective guidelines of the site, and have to make it interesting to people who would otherwise close the answer. It's like you are saying that complaining about a hammer that smacked your thumb is silly when that hammer was designed to slip off the nail and hit your thumb. — computercarguy 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I understand you're upset that it sometimes is hard to post a question and get help with your individual problem that likely won't help anyone else in the future, but, honestly i don't care. I'm not here to help 1 person, i'm here to create/curate content that will help thousands. This isn't a help desk. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, how do you "help thousands" without helping 1 person first? And how do you know that a question won't help anyone in the future? I've had DV, dups, and closed questions and their answers help me quite often. To think that you can see into the future to know what will and won't help others 100% of the time is just pure fantasy. Especially with questions that were closed for typos that we in the process of getting fixed and answered. Not only is it extremely difficult to post a question on this site, but it's also hard to post an answer, which makes getting help near impossible. — computercarguy 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
If you want personalized help, you can always pay a consultant — Kevin B 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, I've been on this site for years, but elitists like you have made me seriously think about leaving multiple times. You pretend to know everything and that everyone should just bow to your "advanced knowledge", but that's not how the world works. — computercarguy 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@TheMaster I believe there are people who have a bias against low rep users. There are clearly people who have a bias against high rep users — Kevin B 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Power BI is under the same umbrella. Is the reception to those similar? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by m7913d
Couldn't Stack Exchange use Database right to prevent such copycat sites, at least in countries that understand it legally? If I understand it correctly, only the individual contributions (= every post on its own) is licensed under CC-BY-SA. Is Stack Exchange required to license the full database on its own under CC-BY-SA? — m7913d 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, I'm assuming you've deleted my last comment? You don't like it when people contradict you? That's exactly the reason why I wrote that comment. There's a huge difference between having respect for people who earn and give respect, than having respect for imaginary internet points. — computercarguy 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I don't have the ability to delete comments yet, @computercarguy, I assume it was the mod watching the comment archive — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@KevinB In my experience, I have yet to see bias against anyone with high rep. On the other hand, there is always bias against low rep users. I'm not really saying it's a bad thing either: Reputation by definition means good opinion about someone and it is earned rightfully. But Gimby suggesting as if there is zero bias and people are only targeting 'content' and not users is demonstrably wrong. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ike
@RyanM Thank you. I think your answer and Erik As comment are good explanations why this question was rated as OK by the "algorithms" ... still I am curious what the mods will say and if I get unbanned ... — Ike 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I personally, give low rep users more leeway, and am annoyed when their questions are quickly closed on semantics. so you could say i have a bias against users with rep. — Kevin B 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
How many downvotes? This kind of IBR (Internet background radiation) is probably not zero. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, well, it was pretty sketchy that my comment was deleted so quickly. — computercarguy 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(ID 70180319 has now been deleted) — Peter Mortensen 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(What book are they referring to? One of Herbert Schildt's?) — Peter Mortensen 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@PeterMortensen I'm not sure what you're asking, but they're both under the "Power Platform" (along with Power Automate and a couple other things) — TylerH 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(What book are they referring to? One of Herbert Schildt's?) — Peter Mortensen 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@KevinB, helping people more who need more help is not a bias against people who should already have base knowledge about a system. The onboarding of new users is next to nil. Spending time to help bring people up to speed should be a requirement, not an argument about how people can't ask a perfect question their first try. — computercarguy 50 secs ago
 
5:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
What do you think that I should do now ? Should I just don't do anything ? Or just let question as now (I already upvote), but such as we can't add bounty I can't bump them ?Make multiple post for all no-existing proposition ? — Elikill58 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
You are right this was a bad audit item. As it was written when you reviewed it, it did not ask a question and deserved to be downvoted/closed as unclear. The system that picks audit items, unfortunately, only looks at the question's score, comments, and answers. It isn't smart enough to read the contents and understand if a question is good enough or not. However, you also aren't banned from one failed audit, unless a moderator manually applied the ban. If you were banned instantly after failing this audit, it means you have failed quite a few other audits recently as well. — TylerH 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Philippe You're right. It's too early. We've done our job here and now should lean back and await what interesting stuff might have been held back. :) — Trilarion 1 min ago
 
5:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
"Unfortunately providing feedback can actually blow up in people's faces", like how all the comments on this answer were deleted, regardless of how relevant they were. — computercarguy 1 min ago
 
6:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
And don't get started on the batsmurf insanity that is a C++ parser. — user4581301 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
The more general term is Cargo Cult Programmer. Screw Stack Overflow, these folk will copy from ANYTHING. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrMythical
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@MrMythical: I would argue against that as a dupe since...well, the OP isn't asking what the restriction is, they're making a suggestion to undo the restriction. — Makoto 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrMythical
@Makoto The OP says "I do not see any rational reason for this restriction", which is why the feature-request was proposed. The dupe I proposed shows why this is there — MrMythical 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
@Mr I have noticed my error after 5 minutes. Why can't I change it? It makes no sense in my opinion. — 0___________ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@MrMythical: A better dupe has happened along which addresses the heart of why the restriction cannot be lifted, so I'll go with that. — Makoto 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
I spent a year providing support to a team of grad students tasked with writing a system that would parse C code written by intro to programming students, infer the intent of said code, and make suggestions on how to improve it. It was interesting times. Learned a lot about how compilers worked, particularly the parsing and pattern recognition. I don't know what the grad students learned, if anything. Anyway, complete disaster. Never even got past the first problem: The code of intro students is hard to derive meaning from because they know not what they are doing. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
There is a badge for taking the tour offered when you joined the site and learning the minimum information about the workings of the site necessary to have a satisfactory Stack Overflow experience. You do not appear to have the badge. — user4581301 1 min ago
 
7:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Not all staff members are moderators. — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
7:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Some staff need moderator privileges as part of their job regardless of whether they've reached any reputation threshold. Not all staff need these privileges; that part of your assumption is incorrect/incomplete. So staff that get them have the 'moderator' tag applied next to their name on posts and in the profile. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
Shouldn't you find out more about how the system works before getting involved in such recommendations? — charlietfl 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
eh, it's not unreasonable to not know what you don't know, and to act according to what you do (or think you do) know — Kevin B 51 secs ago
 
7:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CVerica
@Thum Choon Tat Working of yours they could also rename the post: I'd like to moveit, moveitCVerica 9 secs ago
 
8:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alex Rudenko
@PeterMortensen, at least this answer was about git and not CVS :) — Alex Rudenko 16 secs ago
 
8:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
I'm not sure how to feel about this as a whole, but I do think that there's an argument to be made that adding code that reproduces the problem asked about by the OP doesn't necessarily violate the OP's intent. Definitely would be a case by case thing, but I think this would be especially true if the question is about the problem generically and isn't a debug question. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@zcoop98 I agree it doesn't necessarily conflict with their intent, but at the same time without knowing OPs code it could for all we know have a different cause, just be totally unhelpful to them, or anything else. While that may not matter here with the age of the question and unavailable OP, the correct action would still be for EJoshuaS to post their own question and then, when answered, for this one [being discussed] to be closed as a dupe of the newer one. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
If you had to add the MCVE anyway, why not just create a new question instead? — Dharman 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
You have enough reputation to just edit the post yourself. This is a workaround for such rare situations. — Dharman 19 secs ago
 
8:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Journeyman Geek
I suspect the 'middle' ground would be to convince companies for the 'previlege' of posting things we'd actually want to read. As per Theresa's post, making revenue is non negotiable. The question is — Journeyman Geek 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Yeah... I was in process of typing up an answer in support, because I can see cases where this could be defensible (questions are primarily for the knowledge base first, and OP second, afterall), but I don't think this case is a great application of it. Your snippet belongs as a comment under the bountied question, or in a new question altogether (which is find since this one has no answers), especially since your added example uses Angular 8, when the question is about Angular 5. — zcoop98 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
This linked question is a feature request, not a support question, but it does contain an answer, and mentions that it's an intentional decision: Increase question views once per user in a private teamzcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
@Dharman Good idea :) — 0___________ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Trilarion yeah, actually, I would love to see them (stripped of rep and with subject to proper curation, of course) extrapolated to the pubplat as a whole, I think they have potential too. As a collectives feature... not so much, but since they are likely to stay, and we are here defining the guidelines, what is worrying me is the enforceability of them. CMs' involvement by-article is not scalable at all (I hope Philippe reads these conversations), so unless we also define the mechanisms of ensuring articles stay aligned to the guidelines, I forsee severe quality issues... — Oleg Valter 49 secs ago
 
9:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Yeah, can confirm, it's not just you. Related on MSE: Misaligned dot next to unread custom question filterszcoop98 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
[ Boson ] New comment posted by McAuley
To me, one of the most annoying ones is this 'codegrepper.com' site. Blatant scraping, with no real value. It pollutes the search results. I've taken to putting " -codegrepper" at the end of my searches but it doesn't always work. Not sure why. — McAuley 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by epascarello
If title contains phone number and emoji..... auto ban user. — epascarello 1 min ago
 
10:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Steve Bennett: Then you can support this proposal. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I'm more curious about why the extra card is only shown on the activity page and the Developer Story page, and not the actual profile page, nor the settings page. Also, it's not shown on your Meta SE profile page. Very inconsistent all around. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
10:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@ThumChoonTat thanks, now I feel old... — Braiam 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
What does this all add up to? Continued ability to work as long as we want to! Rejoice! And have pity for the poor shmucks left over when we are all gone. Maybe it's good thing our environment legacy will put them all out of their misery. But seriously, We generally see the worst of things here, because the folks that'll really get the job done in the future generally aren't asking that many questions. — user4581301 14 secs ago
 
11:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
@PeterMortensen Interesting proposal, I don't really buy it though I think. — Steve Bennett 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 

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