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12:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The point, @Shaggie, is that we want new users to stop (or never start) thinking of comments as a contribution. Allowing them to post comments, regardless of the behind-the-scenes mechanisms, would subvert that primary goal. — Cody Gray ♦ 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@Shaggie: The usual response to that question is that answers have more safeguards in place. They participate in the queues, are editable, and can be voted on and delete-voted. Comments have none of these things. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
I added the C# language tag to your question. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
You don't have a language tag on that question. In my experience, questions without language tags get far fewer views. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shaggie
@RobertHarvey: That makes sense. Actually, I think I just read that elsewhere. The only question I would ask is "Isn't this already a problem sometimes with comments now anyway?" I would suggest that more safeguards be put in place for comments, but that is an idea for another post. — Shaggie 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shaggie
This is one reason I suggested that this ability could be denied from those that abuse it, but I understand that this could add more overhead than is desired at this time. — Shaggie 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shaggie
@CodyGray: Hello. I guess one difference in thought is what truly is a "new user". Is that someone with a low rep, or someone that has recently started accessing Stack Overflow. I do understand what you are saying, but I still feel that comments, as long as they don't disappear, are still contributions, albeit minor ones that earn no reputation. Allowing people that don't abuse it to contribute in this way at least allows for more of a feeling of participation. I feel that it could encourage them to participate in more meaningful ways in the future. — Shaggie 1 min ago
 
12:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David C. Rankin
Well, I'm just glad others have experienced it and it is repeatable -- some of the time. At least now it can be looked into. It's more one of those curiosities that after being hear for a half-decade you just notice and wonder -- why that didn't work this time?. Depending on the depth of an answer, I can edit for 30 minutes or so, with maybe a 5 minute break depending on what kind of trouble the kids are getting into.... Thanks for looking into this. — David C. Rankin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
SO/SE search is poor. Google with site:meta.stackoverflow.com & site:meta.stackexchange.com'. Google re advanced googling. — philipxy 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shaggie
@philipxy I am quite familiar with advanced googling, although sometimes it gives me extra stuff that I do not want, like a page that is linked to a page that contains my search terms. I would have thought that SO/SE would have a good search, especially if insufficient research is a reason to take issue with a post. Thank you for pointing that out. I was using the search built into the site. IMHO they should work on that. Some sites actually just use Google or another search engine for their searches. — Shaggie 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wizebin
Shoot I accidentally downvoted this answer, complete misclick. Dang too bad it's locked in. — wizebin 11 secs ago
 
 
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2:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
 
2:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xinthose
results released today: linkxinthose 1 min ago
 
 
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5:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"The signed value -1 is the same as the unsigned value 255." It's not that hard. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Maybe the comment was blocked because you misspelt "sung". I like my negative values in song as well, makes it easier to accept how unnatural they are. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by customcommander
It's perhaps not phrased in the best way but I don't think the suggestions is to simply delete all posts critical to SO from the site. The way I see it is to moderate HMP so that it's not just a number game; HMP can features "hot posts" covering different areas (perhaps something similar to the "Interesting" filter). Allowing contents from all areas while making sure one doesn't take over completely is not censorship, it's just moderation. Now is suggesting, even as a joke, to cause harm to somebody's equipment because you don't like the suggestion, a behaviour that is acceptable? — customcommander 40 secs ago
 
6:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Everything for another Steward badge ... — rene 5 secs ago
 
6:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr Lister
Oh, off topic, but without any context this comment of yours is not true! Languages that support both unsigned and signed bytes will still treat these values as being different. — Mr Lister 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Yes, I noticed that one, too, and wanted to write a bug report on that as well, but the page says “Detailed information about this error has automatically been recorded and we have been notified”, and I’d like to hope that that’s true. — user4642212 37 secs ago
 
7:23 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It would, of course, be more accurate to say that the bit pattern for the signed value -1 is the same as the bit pattern for the unsigned value 255. The bits are identical; what matter is the context in which they are interpreted. Is the uppermost bit interpreted as a sign bit, or a significant bit? — Cody Gray ♦ 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ceving
@MrLister Anything without a context is irrelevant. It is the context, which gives everything the sense. — ceving 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 高鵬翔
Or maybe thanks to thanks lol — 高鵬翔 1 min ago
 
 
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9:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Use of external plugins and userscripts are not supported. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jizhihaoSAMA
@SamuelLiew Yeah, Maybe just give a tip for other people who also used Google Translation.Don't use translation when edit tags. — jizhihaoSAMA 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jizhihaoSAMA
I tried it without plugins but it also occured.So I think Google Translation cause this issue. — jizhihaoSAMA 2 mins ago
 
 
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10:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
I'm not going to insist that SE engineering research is correct - because as I mentioned above, they did not provide enough data to back it up. Maybe they need to account for higher visits frequency than once a month... or maybe lower, can't tell with data available. That said, estimating by visits looks more promising than by posts - primarily because of the way how I (and maybe millions others) use main site. We don't post, we don't vote - we just search for already posted answers to already asked questions, read them and use what we learned. This can be estimated by visits, not by posts — gnat 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yes, it's not surprising that Google Translate would interfere with JavaScript code running on the site. I don't see how this is a Stack Overflow bug. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Shog9 Measuring, who visits the meta, is not hard, but impossible (for ordinary mortals, like me and you). Checking the "last seen" field might base same estimation, but that is all. Furthermore, how do you measure the proportion of the MSO visitors who checked the site, seen the evil and crap-talk here, and silently went away? They appear as visitors in the access logs. People like me, but with lesser vehemence/time, are there. Imho what should be measured, how well are they serving the "knowledge production", i.e. generated answer ups. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Shog9 Imagine that the next "loop" has some questions about the importance/usability from the MSO, too. What do you think, what type of answers would dominate there? Maybe the "I don't know" type? — peterh - Reinstate Monica 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@AhmedAbdelhameed That is my opinion, and at least 11 other MSO members, too, do our wonderful mods delete my comments or not. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat This is also for you. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 20 secs ago
 
10:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmed Abdelhameed
@peterh-ReinstateMonica I'm not a moderator and I can't speak for them. I did, however, see many users that belong to the "mafia" meta communities disagree with moderators deleting comments on controversial posts on many occasions. On another note, I did not reply to your previous comment (now deleted) tasking about my profile, etc. because it was absurd but I didn't even flag it or anything. — Ahmed Abdelhameed 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
I know that data necessary to estimate visits activity is unfortunately not public, merely wanted to point that using posts instead of it doesn't look like a reasonable approximation / replacement — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
well, such comment is useless even if you think doing good. Flag as duplicate and move on. — Temani Afif just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
When will you stop beating your wife? — Cody Gray ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
@Cody whenever she dies. — oguz ismail 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
Probably flagged and deleted as "no longer nessescary", which is the fate of quite a few comments. It provides no further use once it's been seen. — ivarni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
@ivarni probably. In an ideal world the answer would be deleted, or the rep the user earned from that answer would be removed but this is not one. — oguz ismail 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
by the way, I see only one duplicate question recently answered by that user. Why you think he's repeating this behavior? the old questions were deleted? — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
@Temani the most recent answer he posted is another duplicate answer to another duplicate question. It's not that easy to get a question closed as duplicate in shell-related tags — oguz ismail 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmed Abdelhameed
@peterh-ReinstateMonica I'm not a moderator and I can't speak for them. I did, however, see many users that belong to the so called "mafia meta communities" disagree with moderators deleting comments on controversial posts on many occasions. On another note, I did not reply to your previous comment (now deleted) talking about my profile and stuff because it was absurd but I also didn't flag it or anything. Just an FYI. — Ahmed Abdelhameed 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
What has the whole discussion to do with humility, understanding, ...? I don't have understanding for high-reps who should know better but still answer duplicates. Answers to obvious duplicates (may it be for the reputation or just for the lack of motivation to search), are a problem because it fragments information over different questions. — BDL 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
What am I supposed understand from this alphabet soup? — oguz ismail 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
This is.... What was scary about the whole welcoming bandwagon. Instead of trying to do a better internet, to give information out, now ppl wanna hold hands and sing Kumbaya — Patrice 50 secs ago
 
11:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@AhmedAbdelhameed O.k. The problem is that we have a "ruling opinion", or "ruling attitude" here. People disagreeing it, are constantly voted down (close, del), resulting that most of them leaves. The consequence: the relative strength of this "ruling opinion" becomes yet more overwhelming. This works like an evolutionary mechanism, causing that a single point of view, a single attitude becomes the only acceptable one on the meta. And: this has absolutely nothing to do, what the average main site users think. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@AhmedAbdelhameed The concept, that we have the meta site, to represent the main site community, is an essentially false one. The creators of the site network have probably seen that, probably this is why our meta rep is fixed to our main site rep, but it is not enough. What you see here now, has nothing to do to the main site. You can see here the opinion terror of a narrow group of users, created by a mistake of the creators of the site network. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@AhmedAbdelhameed Note also: if I don't use the word "mafia", but explain essentially the same, on a very polite way, the result would be exactly the same. I tried to do that years long. The cause of my treatment is not my attitude, but that our wonderful power users disagree it. In theory, disagreement is not a valid deletion reason, and unfairly deleted posts should be handled by the mods (or other privileged users). Practice is that even they are the product of the social selection mechanism, thus they don't care very much to save the for them disagreeable opinions. — peterh - Reinstate Monica just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jizhihaoSAMA
@CodyGray Yeah, I removed the BUG tag. — jizhihaoSAMA 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat Point is that the site is driven by the work of the main site answerers, and not by the meta visitors. And that these sets are practically disjunct. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@philipxy Let me take an example to explain. Apache Spark is a popular tool use by data engineers and versions available start from version 1.0.0 to 3.0.0-preview2, Apache Spark has maybe 2-3 tags on SO. If a tag is to be maintained for every maintenance version then we will have a lot! (currently there are 4-5 stable versions of Spark) — Ani Menon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
no you can accept also with 1 rep — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
There's no rep requirement for accepting. There's a couple time limitations, but it's tiny for answers where the answerer isn't the asker. See meta.stackexchange.com/a/5235/332043 for the details — Zoe 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@peterh-ReinstateMonica you yourself just admitted in comments above that there is no way for a regular user to estimate visitors so there is currently no way to reliably tell anything about the set of meta visitors. Also I am not sure that focusing soleley on answerers is the right approach (because there are also askers, voters, curators, etc not to mention millions visitors who just search and read and use what they learned) — gnat 51 secs ago
 
12:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat Answerers are counted by the answer-upvotes they've generated (for late readers of the comment discussion, here is the link). — peterh - Reinstate Monica just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
I don't understand how this relates to my previous comment, sorry — gnat 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat I think it is because you have a mental gate to admit, that the role of the active meta users in the creation of the attractive content of the site network is close to zero. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat (Btw, the correct thing to do with such a structure: allow the meta site to create its own ḟilter bubble, and then let it to silently rest in the wastebasket - hopefully this is what happens, contrary Sarah's recent blog post, except that the company does not admit it openly.) — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
12:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
thing I do not want to admit is that your analysis and data suffice to make such a conclusion. Similarly you can say that I don't want to admit conclusion of SE engineering, for the same reasons. Granted, their approach to data looks more promising than your (for reasons explained in my prior comments) but at this point I am really open to possibility that if done right it may lead to a different conclusion, maybe even closer to your beliefs. I am open to any conclusion if it is backed up with data and analysis. There is such thing as scepticism and open mind, I am trying to stick with it — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat Good. Open mind favors open processing of open data. There is yet another important thing: I actually admit, that the avid MSO users have a partial overlap with the avid SO reviewers. However, my interpretation of this is that the unwelcomingness of the meta makes also the main site reviewing unwelcoming. If I don't find the current pile of... antagonism here, if I don't face that the questions I am answering are closed before I could post the answer, I would be likely still a main site answerer with zero to little meta activity. But not this has happened. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat So I could choose between a silent leave and the current crusade. Most of the people expelled from here, have chosen the first. I not. You created me.peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
1:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by thelr
@Zoe Any reason why your comment isn't an answer? It meets my needs. — thelr 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by thelr
Ok, thanks. I'm not sure why this got voted down... I wanted to make sure I had the right info before I corrected a new user. — thelr 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
speaking of open mind, I think you can do sanity check of your own theory if you want. For that, find out how many meta users does your theory takes into account. Then, pick 20-30 (or 50, 100, etc, how you wish) most visible meta questions and decide for yourself whether your numbers look plausible compared to amount of views and votes on these posts — gnat 45 secs ago
 
1:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
that this new user group, attracted by the late 2019 changes, will be enough strong to moderate (review) I can see where you are coming from in saying this, although imo this is also where the "quantity over quality" mentality forms a roadblock. Most of the folks drawn into SO because of this quantity movement post once, and leave again. They don't stick around long enough to create quality questions and answers, and thus never get to the point where they can become curators (by gathering points), simply because quality is not an aspect they think needs to be kept in mind. — Remy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat I explained it between this and this. My own experience only validates that the MSO is a non-representant, hostile filter bubble. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Remy This was always so, independently from the company focus/strategy (even if it exists. Possibly it is mostly lip service driven by the urge of the investors to improve their stats). The question is, how to filter the most possible user base capable to produce the most useful content. The MSO filter bubble went into the direction where we started to expel even each other. Furthermore, I can't see, how the so-named "curators" would be the most useful people of the network. I believe the most useful users are the (HQ) answerers. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@gnat I also suggest to beware the concept of mixing sanity with the majority opinion. It will dig you in filter bubbles. And it is absolutely not a signature of the open mind. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Curiously, there are Spanish and Russian SO versions... So basically you're entirely wrong. — Cerbrus 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Cerbrus Yes. And the 4 non-English SO clones are only allowed because they have a paid CM for that. Here you can see the list of the languages of the Wikipedia, somehow they have no such problems. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Can you back up that bold statement with a source? — Cerbrus 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
"non-English SE sites are entirely banned"Cerbrus 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Cerbrus Which one? — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
No, that bans new non-English translations of existing sites. We have several versions of Stack Overflow in other languages, as well as sites dedicated to the languages themselves (like german.SE, possibly latin.SE, russian.SE (NOT russian.SO), and several others) — Zoe 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Cerbrus Go for A51, archive.org. I won't dig out links for well-known facts, if it is clearly visible that nothing would convince you. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by FlashBangKev
This answer right here is why stackoverflow is a waste of time for most people. It's a community of two groups. The first group are novice programmers who don't know the answer, and in many cases lack a full grasp of the English language. The second group have the answers but are completely stuck up like yourself. My question wasn't about you as an individual. It was a question regarding the whole community. However you made it all about you and how you're so superior. No one cares that you're offended. Get over yourself. — FlashBangKev 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 is downhausted
@FlashBangKev Why are you conflating novice programmers with people who have difficulties communicating in English? — E_net4 is downhausted 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Cerbrus You can imagine, how important is it for me, how do you misinterpret that I still have the spine to say what is known. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
"Lacking support" is not the same as "Entirely banned". Furthermore, you make a claim, so the burden of proof is on you. Deflecting with "I won't dig out links for well-known facts." is typically done when you have nothing to back up your statements. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You suggested that all members should be blocked from answering questions unless their native language is English. All members includes me. Your suggestion would prevent me from doing what I do best on this site. As this concerns me, I answered it in that context. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You have the audacity to suggest that not being a native language speaker makes someone inferior. THAT IS THE PROBLEMCerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
So I have to leave? english is only my third language but I have been helpful until now ... — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by FlashBangKev
Why is it insulting to highlight that it isn't helpful when someone who is trying to answer you question while not having a full grasp of your native language? It's not insulting to point out that more people would find help if they were receiving help from people who speak their own native language. — FlashBangKev 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Can you point at any example of a question of yours that was clearly misunderstood because of lack of language skills by users posting answers of comments? Taking a look at your posts, there doesn't seem to be much evidence of that happening. — yivi 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by adiga
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Maybe, the problem here is in your suggestion? Maybe your suggestion doesn't solve the problem you're observing? I have been blunt in calling that out, but you're the one that resorted to insults mate. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 is downhausted
You have disappointed us by being unreasonable. Now that the question is closed, it is likely to be deleted too, along with the answers. — E_net4 is downhausted 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Deleted answers, score <= 0: (1 2 3 4 5) — Samuel Liew ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
What has answer quality to do with being a native speaker? You need a minimal English level to be helpful, but that is far away from being considered a native speaker. — BDL 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
The exit is on the top right of your screen mate. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Cerbrus Btw, "lacking support" means here "lacking support of the company". The users would be very happy with them. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@TemaniAfif: You mean English is your third language after javascript and css? — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
He could have accepted it, accept does not require any rep. Probably he did not find the pipe icon on the left. It is useful if you help rep1 users for that in a comment. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Post
Hey folks, just wanted to let everyone know that we're talking about this on our side too, and we're going to meet next week to discuss it. We may need to meet a few times before we iron out what we think is the best way to go, but I'll provide an answer that I'll keep updated as we meet / decide / come up with an idea to share on how we can bring this functionality back. — Tim Post ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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3:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
@Cireo I don't agree. If they occasionally visit Worldbuilding, that would indicate that they have at least some degree of engagement in other sites too (which would be an interesting finding in and of itself). It would not imply that they aren't engaged in Meta. At a minimum, the data suggests that Meta's not just a couple of active users talking to each other - a lot of engaged users are at least lurking (even if they're not always actively posting). I would be curious to see how many of them voted on stuff, though. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I think you need to practice some patience ... — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
 
4:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Peter, one of the big advantages of analyzing log data for this purpose is that it becomes possible to see how many folks are visiting regularly - once a week, once a month - instead of just "visited". This is something the company needs to be monitoring constantly - and doing so with the goal of encouraging civic involvement, not finding new excuses to discourage it. It's always easy to find excuses to silence the voice of the people - we see this all around us, ever day... Finding ways to raise those voices is hard, but it is what they must do. — Shog9 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DA_123
This isn't rendering: meta.stackoverflow.com/ads/display/394409. I believe all the rules have been followed. Any advice? — DA_123 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Shog9 Ok, but the MSO is absolutely not a place where the voice of the ordinary mortals would be welcomed. The current reality is that I need to consider a huge advantage for the system, that they still not banned me. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Taryn
We're investigating it. — Taryn ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aryan Beezadhur
I'm getting this exact same error! — Aryan Beezadhur 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Indeed, that is a huge advantage, Peter! — Shog9 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GSerg
Same here. Can see other people's profiles though. — GSerg 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
This is part of the big-reset. We all start at 1-rep and go from there. — rene 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xxbbcc
I'm seeing the same issue. — xxbbcc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
@rene of course I should've checked the übermeta... — CodeCaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by armagedescu
But the meta profile is accessible — armagedescu 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GSerg
Ah, it's the Activity tab. When switching to it, other people's profiles also crash. — GSerg 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Shog9 Ok, but between "they don't kill you for your opinion", and "you are free to say what you think", there is a little difference. I also think that its major cause is that they mostly don't care on the meta. My impression about the company is that they see themselves as a recruiting/advertising company. Most don't even know what is going on the meta. If I could talk with a randomly chosen SE employee, and I would say to him: "you need to make a cleanup on the MSO/A51/MSE/etc", he would not understand what are these. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
@rene 1) It's not a question 2) There is not even any answer there :) — wim 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Jesus
Solved. Just reload. — David Jesus 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aryan Beezadhur
@GSerg what do you mean by Ah, it's the Activity tab. When switching to it, other people's profiles also crash ?? — Aryan Beezadhur 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aryan Beezadhur
Wait, I can view my profile now! — Aryan Beezadhur 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GSerg
@AryanBeezadhur When viewing your own profile, the Activity tab opens by default. When viewing other people's profiles, the Profile tab opens by default. Which is why your own profile crashes immediately and the other people's profiles are viewable. If you switch to the Activity tab in the other people's profiles, they also crash. — GSerg 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
@CodyGray Yes, I would want a moderator to delete it. Comments can not be downvoted, so answers posted in comments are exempt from the usual voting quality controls that apply to answers. I see wrong answers posted as comments very often, so I disagree with your claims that this would help no one and make the situation worse. — wim 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Shog9 Check also this. He did not even criticised anything! He only asked, where to go with his CS question! The answer of the community: +1 (mine) / -23 . That would be the encouragement? — peterh - Reinstate Monica 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
@EricDuminil Sure. I consider it a good duplicate closure when the answer to the question can be found in one of the answers on the other question. It need not be the accepted answer on the other question. The questions themselves may be phrased differently, or even appear completely different at face value. When it is not the accepted answer, it's courteous to point out in a comment which other answer the OP should refer to. — wim 1 min ago
 
4:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Duminil
@wim: Thanks for the comment. I cannot remember where I read a description of duplicates which was contradicting your point of view. I might have dreamt it or it might have been deleted since. Oh well. — Eric Duminil 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
You're not wrong, @peter - but I am firmly convinced that the solution is more, not less. More voices, more conversation, more debate, more voting, more participation and more visibility! Silence is the death of community, and this community has been silenced for far too long. — Shog9 2 mins ago
 
5:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@usr2564301 The comment was more than 15 minutes after the question was asked. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
 
5:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
What do you mean "ethical issue"? Lack of MRE is simply reason to downvote (and posting wall of code is not MRE) Posting code you own under CC license is completely under your control... — Alexei Levenkov 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
@EricDuminil For what it's worth, the banner on closure says "This question already has answers here:" which is worded, perhaps intentionally, in a way which doesn't imply that the questions are same. — wim 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
If the question is just code, then they don't have a problem statement, so instead of editing it you should vote/flag as "needs details or clarity." — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Duminil
@wim: Good point. I'll leave you alone now. ;) — Eric Duminil 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fireball.1
@JohnMontgomery what if the title and the comments are explanatory? — fireball.1 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@AlexeiLevenkov I guess it is an issue because the code was not developed by OP, but by a freelancer — Modus Tollens 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
In this particular case, they aren't, but if they were, then I would try to rephrase them in non-code text. — John Montgomery 58 secs ago
 
5:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@ModusTollens To me legality of posting particular code is not an "ethical issue" - either OP can post code as CC by-sa 4.0 legally or they can't. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@AlexeiLevenkov That's why I avoided calling it ethical issue... But posting code by a freelancer seems what OP is worried about. Maybe this is a question for law stack? Not sure. — Modus Tollens 39 secs ago
 
6:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by thelr
I've gotten great feedback here. Since asking, I've commented on the referenced question to give the user some instructions on accepting an answer (the link from @Zoe was included). I'd consider this question resolved at this point, but as mentioned before, there's not actually an answer for me to accept. I'll keep an eye on this for a few more days just in case. Thanks! — thelr 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr Lister
@manassehkatz-Moving2Codidact Here, s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̵ in comments. — Mr Lister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact
@MrLister OK, how do you do strikethrough in comments? (Unlike Q&A, I can't edit to see the source.) — manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact 7 secs ago
 
6:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
And the fact that you don't know when it is appropriate to post an answer should be a clue. — Robert Harvey 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr Lister
@manassehkatz-Moving2Codidact Add U+335 (short stroke overlay) chars in between the letters, copied from a char select app. — Mr Lister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact
@MrLister Aha! Quite a kludge, but still could be worth it a times. Thank you. — manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cireo
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica again, not arguing with conclusions, just methods. Would love to see e.g. the coefficients for meta (view/comment/edit/answer/post)ers predicting curation/moderation amounts when corrected for age, and general activity, showing that meta is somehow different from other sidebar promoted communities. — Cireo 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaker
Why is this even a big deal? — TheMaker 1 min ago
 
 
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8:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Shog9 Between this and this I explained a problem, which is imho the main cause of the unwelcoming attitude of the MSO. What do you think about that? — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
8:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turamarth
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ono2012
Well the question is fundamentally different - they are not my questions, and they are both really old. The answer is generic enough to suffice meta.stackoverflow.com/a/265737/1452172 I guess my problem is that the dupe question also has answers so I ended up reading both - and I keep coming across dupes with answers. Thanks :) — ono2012 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
The problem is... the system is designed to not delete anything that might be useful. A duplicate question might be useful. If we want it deleted, enough people have to vote to delete it, which is locked behind a privilage at 10k. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I'm confused what the problem is. Are you saying the two questions mentioned are duplicates but are not marked as such? You have enough rep to vote to close them as duplicates. If you don't want to read both... don't read both? As far as dupes having answers, that's because we're not fast enough in closing duplicates. It was only quite recently that the number of votes required to close a question was reduced to 3 from 5. That helps, but there's always people who don't want to see their special unique question closed as a duplicate. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
And if doing so moving comments to the question explain that that is the source of the edit clearly in the edit summary for the reviewersNick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ono2012
@KevinB just 6000 more to go :'(. On a serious note I feel highly trained to be in the "suggested edit" review queue but not the close/reopen ones so I have disconnected from review queues entirely, I'm not likely to use any unlocked abilities if more come. — ono2012 1 min ago
 
9:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by thelr
This isn't a duplicate - it had been MUCH more than 15 minutes after the question was posted. — thelr 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ono2012
@HereticMonkey I see Qs closed as dupe almost immediately. IMO meta is ppl raging about removing dupes, protecting SEO, glorifying old good questions. Dupe questions AND answers is seemingly against prevailing opinion. So my expectations of the site wasn't met, dupe answers posted on the same page would downvoted to oblivion but on separate pages, I end up reading both. I didn't know that dupes were seen as useful to help an end user hit a Q to match their wording, then follow the dupe link to the great original with all the answers. Expectations altered, ex. given still doesn't fit the ideal — ono2012 58 secs ago
 
9:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
If you see this in the reopen queue: please actually look at the linked question. The duplicate is clearly inapplicable here. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
 
 
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11:03 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
I think the linked question does conclusively answer this: there is no limit, other than the 15 minutes delay. Most likely the OP immediately tried to check the answer but it didn't work at the time. When asked much later, they didn't try again and just repeated the initial "it dint work". — usr2564301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@ono2012 - don't forget that you are not "a user" of SO, you are moderator/content author... Most people who use SO don't even have an account - and for those people duplicate will never show up (due to instant redirect). It is useful to let people who can review question to see both original and duplicate as they may figure out that those are not duplicates or need any other moderation action (like you suggested flagging). If you don't want to see moderation part use non-signed in browser session... — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
11:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@usr2564301 Unless I missed something, nothing in that question or any of the answers says that it's the only requirement. — John Montgomery 11 secs ago
 
11:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas
@Siguza Could make it a minimum of 4. Wouldn't mind having 10 to choose from. — Andreas just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
i voted to leave it closed, the comment including mine, say all there is to say and nothing more is there to say about it. Why it is reopened is beyond me, what did you expect more to come. — nbk 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
I mean one thing you failed to notice was that 2 of the people that voted to leave closed were 2 of the close voters in the first place (and now the other has commented below explaining why) — Nick 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@JohnMontgomery It means you can't claim it's robo-reviewing, all 3 had made up their minds beforehand, they didn't meaninglessly click leave closed — Nick 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@Nick I don't see what that has to do with whether the reviews were correct or not. — John Montgomery 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@nbk Why do you think the duplicate target was appropriate? If you think it should be closed for another reason that would be one thing, but the duplicate was completely wrong. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@Nick Unless they also mindlessly clicked close in the first place (the first comment pointing out that the duplicate was wrong was there before the additional close votes came in). And making up your mind beforehand without paying attention to edits or comments isn't good reviewing either. — John Montgomery 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
teh comment He could have accepted it, accept does not require any rep. Probably he did not find the pipe icon on the left. ays it all, the user was not able to accept the answer because he didn't understand the concept here imlemented, but that was not the question asked — nbk 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@JohnMontgomery Following the crowd != Robo-reviewing, which is what your question appears to be about, unless I'm reading it wrong — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@Nick I've seen it happen lots of times before, this question just happened to be a particularly blatant example. — John Montgomery 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@nbk If a comment answers the question, then it should be an answer. It certainly doesn't make the duplicate correct, because the duplicate says absolutely nothing about whether there are rep requirements. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
 

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