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12:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@double-beep your link to the duplicate is wrong. — bad_coder 1 min ago
 
12:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@RobertoCaboni It's so interesting that people want two things to happen at the same time - get quick answer by making question seen by as many people as possible and get as little feedback as possible demanding that no questions can be looked at/evaluated for quality by anyone for an hour or more... — Alexei Levenkov 12 secs ago
 
1:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
I don't understand how "accepting your own answer" is related to linked question - none of the answers are by OP... If trying usual rating faking approach (where one puts star rating as first/last line of description of they app to confuse readers) is ok on SO then why we are not allowing names with some other diamonds for example? — Alexei Levenkov 40 secs ago
 
1:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@toshiro92 the question itself set the tone of discussion... Absolutely zero research shown and boasting about how awesome you are and how all that site sucks... The post would like gotten much better reception if you'd at least look through dozen recent meta posts (this exact issue covered at least daily with pretty much exact wording) and integrate your findings into the question... — Alexei Levenkov 7 secs ago
 
2:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Servy
@YaroslavNikitenko You could...read the comment I posted stating the answer? That's kinda all there is to it, really. — Servy 1 min ago
 
2:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
[ Boson ] New comment posted by enhzflep
@TravisJ - looks --> is — enhzflep 1 min ago
 
 
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5:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Fabrizio Calderan
Just reached 100k rep yesterday, in my birthday. Got the that email too. I was waiting for 7 years. I felt a bit sad. — Fabrizio Calderan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
Moderators are draconian in banning the reviews for marking the question as Requires Editing. Imagine the case: the question MAY have a valid answer being a little vague. One option is to mark this question as Unsalvageable to request the author for clarification. However there could be multiple reasons of the problem, valid answer exist! Now imagine that this question is written in a poor English and requires editing. I guess the question is still salvageable but requires editing. This however puts me into the risk of being banned for marking an "Unsalvageable" question as Requires Editing. — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
 
 
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7:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steven
not to forget [game-maker] can also be used as a tag for as a general 'game making' tag, instead of applying for the Studio itself. — Steven 1 min ago
 
7:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by msdr
Additional sites worth considering: reddit.com and freecodecamp.org/forum — msdr 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
 
7:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Olivier Grégoire
Thank you for having removed me from the experiment! I didn't expect to be this fast, but it's done. Thank you very much! — Olivier Grégoire 1 min ago
 
8:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
No, you're not wrong. It should've been a comment, or a new answer. — Zoe 22 secs ago
 
8:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David C. Rankin
Is this what is causing UBlock Origin to report a double or tripled amount of blocks when using SO? — David C. Rankin 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yaroslav Nikitenko
@Servy which answer do you mean? I was wondering about community question, not answer. — Yaroslav Nikitenko 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
What is your end-goal? Having an efficient, more secure but still correct answer for many visitors to come or a single OP that had their intent and possible pride scattered. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Other question: Why did you delete your own answer on that Q/A? Is there something we should know but you forgot to tell us? — rene 1 min ago
 
9:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@rene the deleted answer uses mysql, the other uses mysqli. The question also asks specifically about mysqli. Guessing that's why — Zoe 1 min ago
 
9:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
It seems logical to me that plagarised answers simply need standard flagging rather than adding workload to a Moderator. The Moderator approach felt 'over-elevated' to me. Not to me. Flags need to be judged by someone, and having random community members judge plagiarism, without the ability to see past flags and suspensions or see all deleted answers, doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I think plagiarism is one of the cases where evaluation by a moderator is always needed. — Erik A 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I completely agree with you. I know that normally code edits are frowned upon. However that doesn't mean they Should Not Be Done™ but rather, they should be done carefully and only when needed. I believe that's what your edits were and you acted in good faith. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Though not on topic for making a change to who should handle the flag, there was a discussion about how the flags are found and perhaps creating a separate flag for plagiarism in this answer by Brad Larson to ♦ moderation queue priority concerns in the comment section. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
I don't agree that it "significantly" changes the intended answer. — ivarni 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin
Thanks for the clear answer. I hadn't actually considererd the possible actions beyond post deletion (where, unlike with this, closed topics that ends the issue) so that was a good point to note. Cheers — Martin 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin
@ErikA I can see your point; I would expect it could be a review task for only those with enough reputation to view deleted answers etc. I had also not noted the further actions required for plagarism rather than for other review tasks (as noted in Zoe's answer). Cheers — Martin 1 min ago
 
10:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chrylis -on strike-
I think this is a bad feature. I also appreciate the way the announcement is handled and the Meta comment conversation. — chrylis -on strike- 6 secs ago
 
10:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Does the error have any more details than that? — Zoe 1 min ago
 
10:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dieter
You invented a feature that nobody needs, or at least a minority. Ask first, then build would be wiser. — dieter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin
Simple Cast need to put some code into their .htaccess (or similar, depending on platform and specs) to upgrade all connections from http to https. Stack Overflow should be linking their external connections as https. — Martin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
I disabled HTTPS Everywhere and forced an HTTP connection. The direct podcast link was upgraded to HTTPS. Sounds more like a client-sided problem than a problem with SE or the podcast vendor. — Zoe 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by apokryfos
@rene I deleted my own answer because it was dated and also was mostly identical to the other provided answer (after both were edited) so it was unnecessary. It was also worse than the other answer in its original unedited form. Overall it was just a bad answer — apokryfos 1 min ago
 
11:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
@RobertColumbia No, it doesn't. — Sean 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
From that same user a curious case of self-plagiarism as well, here. — usr2564301 6 secs ago
 
11:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
The avatar on Stack Exchange is unlinked from individual sites. You can have one avatar on SE.com, one on SO.com, one on GD.SE... You can have as many unique profile pics as there's sites in the network. You can manually change it back, but gravatars don't just disappear. Could be a mod cleared it (by accident?), or that the system just derped and for whatever reason removed it. The latter seems more likely though — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yohann.martineau
OK, the error is visible only when i'm connected to my company VPN. And when I'm connected, for any reason, the error message is now "Blocked by Content Security Policy An error occurred during a connection to player.simplecast.com. Firefox prevented this page from loading in this way because the page has a content security policy that disallows it." — yohann.martineau 1 min ago
 
12:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@usr2564301 I don't think there is such a thing as "self-plagiarism". 1. One doesn't violate a copyright when one makes copies of own work (unless the copyright is granted to someone else). 2. One can rightfully pass the work off as one's own. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by taurus05
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because good. — taurus05 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Voo
@Yaakov So thanks to not implementing an obviously needed feature you now have an unknown number of people who were that upset about this annoying "feature" that they went out of their way to disable it and can count them as "neutral" (or more likely they clicked on a question to figure out what was going on and now count as positive). — Voo 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
You do know most of the curiosity gets answered with a clever query on data.stackexchange.com ? — rene 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin
@Scratte well at least, it's answer duplication.... — Martin 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jamiec
I don't think people here are against change - a large proportion of us work in an industry which is constantly changing. What I'm personally against is content getting in the way of what I came for. The constant nagging popup in VS asking for my feedback is along the same lines. — Jamiec 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave
So yes, there has been an increase. Not surprising at all but nice to see it as a chart :) — Dave 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Martin Absolutely. But handling it is not as straight forward. Maybe one Question is a duplicate. To determine that, it's best to know the technology. If I remember correctly there is a script that handles exact duplicate answers. I have no idea why it didn't work here. I think the consensus is to wait a day before flagging. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by taurus05
Thanks @rene for the precise response! — taurus05 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by taurus05
Can someone please help to write a query to determine the most popular tags after 2020-01-01taurus05 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cmaster - reinstate monica
Sorry, but your assumptions on why we reject this experiment are waaaayyyy off! My first thought, when I saw it, was neither "oh, I hate change", nor "oh, that endangers my privileges". It was instead a plain and simple "oh, that really gets in the way of what I came here to do". I enjoy looking over the hot network questions, irrespective of whether technical or not. Those are excellently placed for their purpose. The current experiment is not. And that's why it's being rejected. — cmaster - reinstate monica 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dspencer
Was this ever done? I still see cv2 as "pending removal". — dspencer 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
So if you get this sorted, everyone is a small start-up from now on.... — Luuklag 1 min ago
 
1:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Jamiec My many years experience on the MSO is that people constantly disfavor anything what would be even close to question the leading role of the SO inside the network. Example. But the SO is hostile and probably beyond repair, so the right thing to do would be to better integrate it with smaller, friendlier sites, giving an alternative to the currently expelled users. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
You can also like your own FB or Twitter post, react to your own Slack message... etc. there’s no reputation impact. Is there a reason to prevent it? I’m not sure if it’s intended or not but this might be an interesting thing to think about. :) — Catija ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@cmaster-reinstatemonica (My previous comment is also for you) That is no problem, if they have already started it (and stopped the "we do not divide the SO" crap), they could also fix/improve it. My focus is here on the concept (better site integration, incl. the advartisement of the small, friendlier sites), not the version0 implementation. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 8 secs ago
 
1:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cmaster - reinstate monica
I would never think of SO as the leader of the network. Each site has its own area, and if you are interested in, say, chess, rockets, and physics, well, SO is not the site for you. Your sites then are Chess, Space Exploration, and Physics. SO happened to start the thing, but that's about it as far as I am concerned. What I do not buy, though, is the talk about SO being unfriendly: Any site that aims to be helpful to professionals needs to weed out the tons of badly presented newbie questions. If it does not do that, it may feel more friendly to you, but it looses its best contributors. — cmaster - reinstate monica 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jamiec
So your single data point of people disliking your idea to fragment StackOverflow leads you to believe that everyone is against change. Got it! — Jamiec 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Jamiec It is only an example to show, that the problem existed already in 2015. Note also the recent deletion, which happened by rule violation (the question did not qualify for a delete candidate, and its existence was not a problem until I did not use it as a reference in another MSO post). — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@cmaster-reinstatemonica The sites are built on communities. If a community becomes more and more closed, ruled by a closed, inner circle of avid users, it stops its growth. I believe, the site network should have an "internal race" for the content and for the (good) users, so the "good old boy" problem could be solved by an evolutionary model, network-wide. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
This has already been reported here in another answer, FYI — TylerH 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@cmaster-reinstatemonica Btw, if you disagree that question, feel free to vote for its undelete, so you will be able to vote it down. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
This looks like something out of Star Trek TNG. 💚 — Catija ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Catija It does give off Geordi LaForge vibes, now that you mention it. — TylerH 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I actually don't really like the "code tax" that some people seem to demand. I mean somebody comes in and says "I have this, I need that" and they immediately get a comment to the effect of "what have you tried?". Yes, SO is not a code writing service, literally coming in and going "I have [1, 2, 3], I want to get 6" is super low effort and shouldn't be answered. However, if the user laboriously explained all requirements, included examples of input, multiple expected outputs, also examples of what's NOT expected, then that's still effort, even if there is no code involved. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
@VLAZ: those are exceedingly rare. The pattern "1. my requirements, 2. ???, 3. Profit" is still way too common. My usual pattern is "So what did you try?", followed by a close vote around a day later – even if there are answers. — usr2564301 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cueedee
@yivi, I realize that the challenges involved to do it fairly are likely among the many reasons this was never attempted. — cueedee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
The first thing I noticed was the confusing use of MM for million, but i've only ever heard MM being used for million in the O&G industry (MMbbl for millions of barrels)... — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cueedee
@Blastfurnace - I agree it doesn't belong in the answer an sich. But because it's called "suggesting an edit" I was expecting the original author to review and cherry-pick it for incorporation before going public and I felt I had to justify my reasons for doing so. Again, I would never even have attempted editing if my own original answer hadn't been deleted by a moderator. — cueedee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@usr2564301 oh, I didn't want to suggest they are common. Yes, the vast majority are "write a sorting function for me" or the like. Looking at the regex tag is even worse. However, questions with effort in them but no code do appear from time to time. Yet they too get slapped with the same code tax. I just tend to VTC low effort ones as "needs more focus" since it expects us to do everything. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@Nick Oh noes is my hedge fund background coming back to bite me?! I'll check it out, thanks. — Jason Punyon ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toshiro92
@AlexeiLevenkov Please don't say something I've never written here: I respect this site as I am using it since a long time now, and gave some time for. I will not accept that because this is clearly not what I am saying here. Don't become evil because of a "duplicate" discussion. However, you're right about one point: I searched a little bit before I post this question, but not enough indeed. — toshiro92 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Sounds cool! One thing to fear when using NLP is that what's considered rude might vary over time, with changing culture and slang. Do you have plans to continuously/intermittently review and update the model? — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Looks good (Y), MM just wasn't a standard that i'm used to seeing outside of work and I imagine a lot of others aren't totally familiar with it either (although could've guessed) — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
If I understand the requirements correctly there's only really a "code tax" on homework, debugging and "I need SQL"-Questions. — Scratte 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"Question that caused the ban" - This is almost 100% not quite right, that's just the "question cited in ban message", I'm sure there are a number of other reviews which led to a ban of this length — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by double-beep
Keep in mind that Looks OK, Requires Editing and No Action Needed are almost always the wrong options for Late Answers, First Posts and Triage. — double-beep 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cueedee
What changes then, in your opinion, would have been able to warrant it a "real" answer status? Imho, at face value either "answer" boils down to "here's a link to where you might find what you are looking for". The difference only being the places being linked to. Then if one qualifies (or doesn't), then so (or neither) should the other; the fact that one is phrased as commentary to the other doesn't make it less valuable. — cueedee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
I'm a little baffled that people are still being banned over this, considering that everyone now agrees that the Triage system is hard to understand and needs to be overhauled. I'm especially baffled that we're handing out bans this severe. The one you need to talk to is Samuel Liew; you can find him in hereRobert Harvey 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@ErikA Absolutely. We don't think our model "thinks". It's very sophisticated pattern matching. Our human flaggers are the only way the robot will ever know about new modes of unfriendliness, so if you see something unfriendly flag it as such. We last retrained in August and we're definitely due. We'll update on that when it happens. — Jason Punyon ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@SamuelLiew suggest you lower it to 30 days. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
since you have acknowledged the ban and have done the required reading, I've lifted the temporary review ban — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
This looks like really good work. Kudos. — Robert Harvey 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
Thanks, @RobertHarvey :) — Jason Punyon ♦ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Isn't it obvious, there's a (2) at the end of the title, totally different question — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luis Daniel Mesa Velasquez
Anyone has the right to identify as whatever they want, but everyone else has the right to identify them differently. Suddenly the pronoun I or You will become offensive as well. If you feel offended as a woman in tech BEFORE you've had any interaction with others then that says a lot about where your problem lies... Most women have other interests, I don't see you advocating for fewer women in medicine for example. I've worked for Novell and half of the office was female, IBM in which the CEO is a woman, Amazon where we had women@amazon days... — Luis Daniel Mesa Velasquez 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cueedee
So now the answer's original author is being fully rewarded for knowledge contributed by an editor, how is that - if you want to frame it as such - not considered "stealing"? Btw, I never meant to suggest that editors receive the same credit as authors for upvotes; but some credit would seem, well, fair. — cueedee 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cueedee
And indeed, in all fairness it would have to work reciprocally for downvotes, too. — cueedee 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
It's the difference between cooking a meal and taking a picture of a meal. The person taking the picture only contributed to the presentation of the meal in some capacity; someone else (or others - depending on how big the meal is) actually spent the time and effort into making all of that. 2 reputation is plenty of credit for someone who edits posts. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by apokryfos
My concern with your edit was for two reasons: (a) I had an answer there which was made identical with your edit to the other answer. Someone dropping in from google would probably not understand why there's two identical answers to that question (b) You changed the query itself from SELECT * to SELECT COUNT(*) and I think the original intent of the author was to provide a way to get all results as well as the number in one operation. I do understand the later doesn't work in all configurations but this small change did require a lot of explanation as to why it was necessary — apokryfos 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Your Common Sense
@apokryfos your answer was not equal to the other one as you introduced the OOP syntax, which made the difference: " if you opt for OOP rather than procedural". And I carefully preserved it, so the two answers was as different as before - running the same query but getting the result using different syntax, one procedural and one object. — Your Common Sense 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
@Nick yes like the suffix Windows add to file name when you copy them in the same location -.- ... let's hope we won't have the (3) — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Funnily enough the next answer down from yours (from the sorting when I navigated to this) was the same issue: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/396062, as is this one meta.stackoverflow.com/a/396029 and this meta.stackoverflow.com/a/396186 in fact its been reported close to a dozen times — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
I wish that the correct answer was "ASCII art of a raised middle finger". — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
FWIW this just happened again with Jon Clements... — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@RobertoCaboni If the asker isn't willing to put in the effort to make their question on-topic when they post it, it's highly unlikely they're going to bother to edit it into good shape. Such users are essentially engaging in phishing: if nobody answers or their question gets closed they haven't put much time into it so don't lose much, if someone is foolish enough to answer honestly then the asker has essentially gained the time that person spent answering. — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
I'm just happy you aren't claiming it's AI, like seemingly every other company in the world that uses machine learning. Inference is not intelligence, it's a component thereof. — Ian Kemp 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
The Triage queue is horribly terrible and needs to be fixed, see the dupe I suggested - being banned from it is not something to worry about, since you should avoid it anyway until (if) Stack Exchange Inc. decides to fix it. — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
It is never just one review that lands you in hot water. It's multiple reviews. The message you're seeing is one where a mod intervened and issued a manual ban. — Makoto 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roberto Caboni
@IanKemp ok, guys, but that's not the real topic of the answer. What do you think about a specific "Do my job for me" flag? — Roberto Caboni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
Simple, because Stack Exchange Inc. doesn't want questions closed, because questions create page views, which (supposedly) create revenue. IMO, moderators should respond to users who do this by destroying the latters' accounts so that they can never post again. — Ian Kemp 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
You ignored four prior review bans for the same reason, on Oct 30 '19, Dec 10 '19, Dec 26 '19, Mar 8. 64 days is very reasonable. — Samuel Liew ♦ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@RobertoCaboni every flag raised has to be actioned by a human moderator, of which there are never enough. In other words, flagging should be a last resort when the other means provided by the system to handle a bad post are available. In this case, you have the ability to downvote and vote to close the bad question, and those are the mechanisms you should use. — Ian Kemp 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@Makoto First, I quoted the question that was (IMHO) incorrectly closed as off-topic. I would appreciate if moderators explain the reason. Next, personally I see no reason of manual banning here. — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@SamuelLiew I was banned for these reviews already. Should I be banned for them again? By the way, some of these reviews are still questionable, I still believe that it is possible to improve the question just editing, for example, here: stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25548890Dmitry Kuzminov 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
@IanKemp Yep, you'll probably never hear the Data Team use that term. Dave Robinson, one of our former Data Scientists, has a great writeup on the subject. — Jason Punyon ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@SamuelLiew I haven't "ignored" the prior bans. That is why I'm requesting you to re-review this case. I believe that "Requires Editing" is a fully correct verdict for the question I quoted, and closing as off-topic is not. At least even if you close the question for any reason, why should I be banned? — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
If any two out of the five questions in the reviews I linked is re-opened by the community or other moderators, I will lift your review ban immediately, since that proves I'm partially incorrect. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@SamuelLiew that is a double standard. First, I don't want to reopen old questions that don't bring any value for the site, even if the reason of closing these questions was invalid. Next, right now I have a concern regarding one distinct question and ban. Referring to the previous cases is invalid. — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
You would understand if you read the help center. — Dan Bron 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
The reason provided is "off-topic". Follow the links provided. — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@SamuelLiew moreover, how can I contribute to reopening the question if it was deleted? You just avoid answering my question requiring me to do something technically impossible. — Dmitry Kuzminov 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ryanyuyu
"As you might not, unlike Jason Punyon and Dave Robinson, I have no hesitation" I'm so confused. — ryanyuyu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
Does this answer your question? What exactly is a recommendation question?gnat 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
I would upvote twice, if I could - but, alas, my sock-puppet is currently in quarantine. — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Sounds like bugs should be filed against Facebook, Twitter, and Slack. It makes negative sense to react to your own post. — Cody Gray ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"Our questions suck. Maybe you'd like these better?"Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I love this answer. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Servy
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
None of your reviews that Sam linked here were even close to borderline. None of these could ever be salvaged by editing. All of them needed to be closed. There's no possibility of those ever being re-opened. If you are not seeing these types of questions as extremely problematic when you're reviewing, then you're either not paying attention or you don't have a good grasp on this site's quality expectations. — Cody Gray ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
Hah, I knew I had read a question somewhat like this one before. — E_net4 the comment flagger 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by winter128
i think i got it thanks — winter128 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@CodyGray personally I'm trying to make my questions/answers of a high quality, but I don't expect the higherst quality while reviewing. I realize that newbies experience difficulties expressing their ideas, but they still need to get helpful answers. That should be the reason of classifying questions as "Requires Editing". That is my rule of thumb: if I understand the root cause of the question and I can personally edit it to improve the quality, I judge it as "Requires Editing". Am I wrong? — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
As long as I can vote to close the same question multiple times for the same reason as the user mashes the Re-open button every time it's closed, fine. The number of users who actually agree with a closure is exceedingly small. If you think we have a lot of questions asking for un-bans about "Requires Editing" now, imagine the number of questions asking for un-bans about "Re-open" once this is implemented... One of the reasons in Keep closed should be "because the user clicked Re-open without doing anything". — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yes, "Requires Editing" means someone other than the original asker could edit it, making it into a question that complies with our guidelines and quality standards. What I don't understand is how you could possibly edit those questions into shape. I couldn't. The fact that newbies may struggle to express their ideas and need an answer doesn't have anything to do with us or the site's quality standards. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
To answer the question in your last paragraph: yes, because not all moderators use the userscript you described. And not all moderators go through the song-and-dance of declining a flag, then going back to the page and deleting the original comment anyway. They especially don't do this dance for a bot. — Cody Gray ♦ 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
I susp it's shorth for "notice". (That's human patrec at work.) — usr2564301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitry Kuzminov
@CodyGray Ok, for the sake of quality standards I can agree with you. Personally I dislike the garbage questions from newbies. However initially I had the opposite problem: many times my flags on poor quality questions/answers were rejected, that is why I started looking for sense even in questionable posts. I feel lack of clear criteria on the site that makes triage either risky or useless. Who needs classifying the obvious? But I wouldn't dare to use "Requires Editing" anymore... — Dmitry Kuzminov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
*psst* they're using regexS.S. Anne 26 secs ago
 
5:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user85421-Banned
isn't "may not have noticed them at all" a good reason to improve how to inform in such cases? — user85421-Banned 39 secs ago
 
6:06 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mxmissile
So this is like a Terminator SJW? — mxmissile 11 secs ago
 
6:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Montrose
This is something I absolutely want to see done. — Kevin Montrose ♦ 18 secs ago
 
6:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Taplar
"know that Stack Exchange Inc.'s desire to integrate hordes of desperate help vampires into this community could never succeed, because the vampires' desires are completely orthogonal to the values that this site was founded on and that its community holds dear" -- really? I can't tell you the number of times a question has been asked without providing enough details, or showing an attempt (as expected and detailed in meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/261592/…), only to have people clamor to answer them. — Taplar 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
Unfortunately, we’ve already seen steps taken in the “let’s hide useful information from low-rep users” direction. meta.stackexchange.com/a/337104/323179. I’d really like to start by seeing that reversed. — Laurel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ben Voigt
Since "Unsalvageable" actually means "Return to Sender" why don't we put that on the button? — Ben Voigt 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
The particular "culture" (if we want to use the term very loosely) that is embodied in the robot is that of comments that were flagged by users in the past and handled by our moderators. It is defined by action, and there's probably some level of caprice (which moderator handled the flag probably impacts how it was handled). — Jason Punyon ♦ 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
The customs and social norms of particular cultures were not incorporated to this research. Stack Overflow has has oblique "cultural" guidelines in the past ("Be nice.") and we've gotten more prescriptive as time has gone on (now we have the Code of Conduct). — Jason Punyon ♦ 40 secs ago
 
7:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arnab Dutta
Moderator can you please drop it to the proper channel under stackOverflow ? — Arnab Dutta 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vaibhav Joshi
People on stackoverflow are really condescending to newbies. — Vaibhav Joshi 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mat
Posts never get migrated from meta to main. — Mat 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Click the edit link highlight all, Ctrl-C. Ask a new question on Main. Ctrl-V. No effort ruined. — Heretic Monkey 40 secs ago
 
7:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arnab Dutta
"No more questions being accepted from this account" - hoped you people might help. Hoped someone out there will understand the gravity of the question and the need of the feature — Arnab Dutta 1 min ago
 
8:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Instead of asking your regular questions on Meta (where they will never be answered), ask how to improve your posts. — S.S. Anne 1 min ago
 
8:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
@TylerH while it was 2015 - first elected mod in 2020 or something :p — Jon Clements ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Lima
I think the discussion is falling back to whether or not a user has put effort in a question. That was not my intention. I am asking what should be MY behavior as a user that likes to give answers. If I see a question that didn't show much effort (take a Regex question, for exemple), is it wrong if I give it an answer? I have the free time, the patience, and I actually enjoy doing so. But am I making the site somehow worse by giving answer to a clear but effortless question? — Pedro Lima 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
The new flags were introduced in August 2018. See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/313754/…TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@cueedee I don't see reasons to create "partial answer" status. You are welcome to ask separate question as true "feature-request" with clear explanation what you proposing and why it is useful for the site. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
8:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
The last paragraph seems like a moot concern as mods vary wildly in what they consider worthy of removal when it comes to comments. — TylerH 25 secs ago
 
9:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
Also with 255 days this hardly could be your first ban. They usually start with 16 days or less. Doubling every time you get banned within 30 days of being unbanned. — Luuklag 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Of course, we talk about Themes - we don't ask to spend 100s of hours. Why do you want to decide that a user must use narrow columns if he prefers wider columns? — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
On Stackoverflow, a lot of code is cut because the lines are too long. But this is not the subject of this proposal: If users like to better use the Monitor space by changing to a wide Stackoverflow-Theme, then it is and it should be their decision. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@IanKemp it's a bit harsh to punish the users for what SE is pushing them to do. — VLAZ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@Taplar That's generally people who don't understand the core values of the site (or have a thing for collecting imaginary internet points, which is a problem far outside our purview). — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Taplar
When such behavior is allowed to continue for a long period of time, without any noticable ramifications, can it still be considered a core value? — Taplar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@VLAZ I agree, but what other options do we have? :( — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@IanKemp not many, that's to be sure. It's either closing the questions and explain why until they understand or...until they get question banned. Not ideal either way. SE has been in a more cooperative mood lately, so it's possible they listen this time and do something about it. Or...you know, not but that hardly changes how things stand anyway. — VLAZ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
@VLAZ I can confirm that they don't (and won't understand). Even worse, they are convinced that I am the one who is breaking the rules by not allowing them to repeat their question and I am the bad guy making SO the worst place ever. I cannot give you examples because I automatically flag those welcoming commentsTemani Afif 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
So he got started in January, posted to anything with a pulse and burned-out after two months. Swinging wildly to try to hit a valid reason why this happened, didn't land a single punch. Good thing the meta people are always around to stick a jaw out, maybe the upvotes will keep him inspired. Its what we do. — Hans Passant 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Ed's username is elixenide now. — S.S. Anne 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@TemaniAfif Yes, I'm aware how users react to duplicate closures. And you are doing an amazing job alongside so many gold badge holders. Yet, that's really where we're at - SE is pushing people to re-ask questions. We've tried to point out that's not correct to both curators and question askers. Yet nothing happened. So far at least twice, if I remember correctly. SE is throwing curator under the bus here and nowadays trying to save its image by trying to reduce "toxicity" yet said "toxicity" is in no small part driven by SE decisions in the first place. — VLAZ 2 mins ago
 
9:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave Kielpinski
the focus on unfriendly comments is fascinating given the influx of incredibly poorly worded questions from new users. i basically have given up answering on Data Science or Cross Validated and i guess i'll give up commenting as well. honestly, what's in it for volunteers at this point? — Dave Kielpinski 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Maybe the unfriendly comments can be clustered in some way. I have no experience with NLP, but maybe there is some kind of formula of what makes most of the unfriendly comments unfriendly. — Trilarion 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
Oh haven't read that answer had tp upvote it, but it rings somehow true. the hole situation is to dispare if you have the tendency to do so. New user don't know the layout and different tags have different rules, so that even old members get it wrong. The user with lots of answers don't get upvoted for what ever reason. and the high rep users answer the same questions over and over again. Yeahh everybogy is miserable Oh o forgot moderators, they have to ban people who try to help, becausse the revwers don't understand the differenet rules either and get to decide over a lot of crap — nbk just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@toshiro92 I'm not sure what do you mean "accept comment", but irrespective how your wrote your post I expressed how it looks for me. Meta sucks in that sense - people who frequently post comments do frequently read all posts on meta and post comments on all of them (unlike main where no one can do so). We see meta.stackoverflow.com/search?tab=newest&q=review%20ban and after 10+ roughly identical posts like "I've been on SO X years. Never made mistakes. Now a month ban. Not shown." reaction gets less... inviting... If you have suggestion how to avoid that - I'm sure it will be welcome. — Alexei Levenkov 50 secs ago
 
10:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Well.. this was.. unexpected. — Scratte 49 secs ago
 
11:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
@Scratte Feel free to post an answer ... you may even get an upvote from Hans! — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Not my end. I don't work for Stack Exchange. I'm just a community-elected moderator. But it looks like one of the staff members (Max) has just looked into this! — Cody Gray ♦ 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
There are ways of verifying this, @Luuklag. Not that it would be impossible for people to cheat the system, but...it's also inevitable. I think, on balance, it makes sense to lower the barrier of entry to allow those who would otherwise be excluded. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MSalters
Good point. It's hard to deny that there is some cultural difference between Stack Exchange, Inc. and its users, given the events of 2019. — MSalters 1 min ago
 
11:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by enhzflep
I inspected the html last night and deleted the god-awful mess. This morning, the horror show wasn't presented to me again. Dunno if it was this action, or that of my voting behaviour in this thread. In either case, I'm no longer frustrated by SO's amateur hour. Thanks.... I think. — enhzflep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@PedroLima if you disagree with the post being closed as duplicate please follow standard meta.stackexchange.com/questions/194476/… to get it re-opened or maybe ask new question on part that is not covered by duplicate. Generally there will be no "discussion" after post closed... — Alexei Levenkov 41 secs ago
 

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