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12:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Yes, your previous review suspension was 16 days, so this time it doubles to 32 days. — Samuel Liew ♦ 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andrbrue
@SamuelLiew I can understand that the suspension times go up for repeating mistakes. But I do not get how a single mistake which imho isn't even one leads to a new suspension. Is there some threshold of mistakes required to get suspended and if so is it absolute or relative? — andrbrue 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Deleted questions, score <= 0, contributing to the question ban: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@KonradRudolph your suggestion is a valid one, in fact probably the only possible one, that's a +1 for me, even though I don't find it much viable. — Marco Bonelli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
FYI you "approved" revision 1 of the question, which has now been edited. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samathingamajig
I would supposed the Linux/Unix stack exchange unix.stackexchange.com, but you should read their rules about asking for opinions. Another option is asking the linux subreddit, they might be able to help — Samathingamajig 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Definitely not StackOverflow since this would be closed for asking for opinion or asking for tool or library recommendation — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
The point of my comment above is that this may not be the best question for this site, since this site is the meta site for StackOverflow and StackOverflow alone. We can give advice on what may or may not be on topic for this site, but not for the others. You might be better off addressing this broader question to the main stackexchange meta siteHovercraft Full Of Eels 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CForce99
@HovercraftFullOfEels no problem just tried my luck. Thanks for your help! — CForce99 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@CForce99 you're now asking a question that is definitely above my pay grade (meaning: I don't know) — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CForce99
@HovercraftFullOfEels thanks is there a way to transfer my question or do i have to delete it and ask it again? — CForce99 1 min ago
 
1:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
It was not the downvotes that got you question-banned. It was poor quality questions that you asked. The system will automatically ban you after you have posted a number of poor quality questions. Downvotes are one of the criteria with which the system calculates it. — Dharman 43 secs ago
 
1:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Spectric
I'll be completely honest, I believe that "Needs author edit" should not just be a flag option, but should be its own category. Sometimes, when a user posts an image of their code instead of pasting it as raw formatted code, I am inclined to choose "Needs author edit", but I am stumped as to which option to choose. — Spectric just now
 
1:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Charlie Armstrong
I know there's a ton of backstory here, and I understand why this is important, but on a surface level, am I the only one here amused by all this hype over renaming four buttons? On a more serious note, I do think this will at least improve the review queue situation, and I appreciate the work put into it. — Charlie Armstrong 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: while you are waiting for next 6 month to ask next question consider reading some articles on general web security and what considered reasonable to allow web server code to do and what not, what are regular treats to web servers... Also check out meta posts on editing questions like meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255644/… if you decide to update your questions. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
2:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
"There's no need to explicitly specify the language if it's already correctly inferred" The problem is, the code for language inferencing changes over time. Just because it was inferred correctly today doesn't mean it will be next year. I'd definitely vote for explicit settings. — Steve Bennett 45 secs ago
 
2:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
That is (the picture) Tom Smykowski from Office Space, from this scene (00 min 11 secs). — Peter Mortensen 56 secs ago
 
 
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3:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
some anonymous coward Name-calling is not really going to help your case here. You can see who closed it at the very top of the question too. — CertainPerformance 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
The question was closed by a community member and an elected moderator. They are named in the blue banner and not anonymous. Calling anyone “cowards” because you disagree with the action taken is both over the top aggressive and goes against our stated code of conduct. It’ll certainly not win you support here. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
@CertainPerformance No you can't. "Name calling" - because you can identify me and boost your petty sense of ego though I'm not allowed to know who closed the question. — John 1 min ago
 
4:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
You are ambiguously overloading "flag". Continuing a SO/SE lack of clarity in terminology & documentation. — philipxy 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
You are ambiguously overloading "flag". Plus independent of other SO/SE uses the word means almost nothing & little in context. Continuing a SO/SE lack of clarity in terminology & documentation. — philipxy 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@philipxy would appreciate if you can post this as an answer — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Boris
@rene your query didn't work for me. I have a number of rolled-back edits (most recently this one) but I get no results for my user id of 3064538 — Boris 29 secs ago
 
 
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5:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roshin Raphel
@RobertLongson I asked the same question to the OP in the comments, I thought he might be able to improve the question by editing. — Roshin Raphel 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
What's the next value in the following sequence? 6, 10, 3... — Robert Longson 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You commented because it required an edit by the author. Why didn’t you choose that option? — yivi 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daedalus
@RoshinRaphel What edits can the community make that clarifies the question? — Daedalus 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roshin Raphel
@RobertLongson Okay — Roshin Raphel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
The question cannot be made answerable by the community, it needs to be closed till the OP clarifies it. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Ok, let’s hope the new labels do make a difference in the reviewers experience. — yivi 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Yes, but you had a review suspension notice telling you that on Aug 22, which you read. — Samuel Liew ♦ 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roshin Raphel
@yivi When I reviewed the post, the option was not Community edit, it was Required editing, so I thought it meant for the OP also. — Roshin Raphel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roshin Raphel
@SamuelLiew Yes, but It is now that I get the difference — Roshin Raphel 1 min ago
 
 
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7:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gwyn Evans
Just for completeness, it appears that Reddit’s probably a better place to ask that sort of ‘strategic’/‘design’ question, while SO restricts itself to the narrower, ‘tactical’/implementation’ problems. — Gwyn Evans just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Wow, so this is not the first ever request for this feature? Color me shocked. — Cody Gray ♦ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Agreed in general, but I think this particular question, as currently worded, seems a bit too broad. I'm not taking any action, though, because I don't have any expertise in R, certainly not enough to override the community. — Cody Gray ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Merging into [gdi] certainly seems like a compelling option. Someone should try to find a moderator who is a WinAPI expert and also isn't too busy with work to do stuff like this. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@eis It has never changed much. Again, it's the crap huggers vs crap deleters. Some people simply think that if I write a one-liner answer while drunk at the same time as the cat walks across my keyboard, then that post is some great tome of knowledge that must be preserved for eternity and deleting it would be a deadly sin. — Lundin 1 min ago
 
8:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
If nobody else gets to this I'll revisit this in my weekend and provide an answer. — rene 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Boris
@rene could you also fix the query in your answer on the question you linked please — Boris 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
sure, that still has to wait for the weekend. I don't have time cycles available today ;) — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
That seems sort of counter to the proposal to get Questions reopened. What is the point of having one or two highly downvoted open posts, even if one learns to post Questions, if the result is a Question ban? Wouldn't it effective make the users that have learned it explicitly barred from using their new skills? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@TylerH I really have no idea what you people are reading into answers. I certainly can see now how people can be so convinced that the answer in question properly answered the question. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
 
8:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
The two buttons that reviewers (should) use the most in Triage were: Skip and Unsalveageble. One of the things I found most confusing when I started reviewing was all the options in the flagging dialog. Adding a button that, for the most part, effectively does the same thing as another button is likely to cause additional confusion. I've removed the "Needs author edit" completely from my own user interface and instead named the Flag button "Flag / Needs author edit". I think that makes it less confusing and it also makes the button wide in size and easier to "hit". — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 posts memes
@KonradRudolph "calling out anonymous downvoting is fine" Except that it isn'tE_net4 posts memes 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frank Schmitt
That's the most sensible approach by far. I' like to upvote this a thousand times, but alas, I got only one vote :-) — Frank Schmitt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frank Schmitt
"It would take the OP a minute to translate the error" - no. Simply no. Nothing could be further from the truth. Have you ever tried googling for the correct English translation of an error message in another language? There's a lot of guesswork / trial and error involved. — Frank Schmitt 10 secs ago
 
9:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dylanh724
Still no answer in 2020? — dylanh724 8 secs ago
 
9:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
What kind of other action would you expect, besides suspension? Anything in particular on your mind? — yivi 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
How do you know that they weren't 13 at the time they signed up? And just didn't update their "About me"? How do know if they're in Europe or not? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
I'm thinking your answer had a more effective impact on me about not posting bad quality stuff, than all the rules, flags and stress did. Back then, I was just afraid of ending up in the low quality stack. Now I'm just thinking that I should avoid tainting the place any more than it already is (feeling emotionally involved). — Clockwork 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ForestG
I was wondering, is this happening nowdays as well? — ForestG 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
@CodyGray What are the rules on doing that 'merge' manually for tags with < 100 questions? For example, I would be happy to start doing just that, if it's allowed. And others who've posted here would presumably be willing to help out. — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
 
10:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I suggest to wait for Hans Passant to give his blessing to this ..... — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
And how is being able to repeatedly waste the time of volunteers who help you fair? There are other users who can benefit from the help.... But they're busy answering and moderating..... Where is that fairness now? — Patrice 1 min ago
 
11:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Just use auto-comments: stackapps.com/questions/2116/…rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@E_net4postsmemes As I implied in my comment, I simply don’t agree with this. It may (currently) be a majority opinion (but I’m not even convinced it is — outside of meta users) but it’s not a consensus and it’s not uncontroversial. — Konrad Rudolph 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@E_net4postsmemes As I implied in my comment, I simply don’t agree with this. It may (currently) be a majority opinion (but I’m not even convinced it is, outside of meta users) but it’s not a consensus and it’s not uncontroversial. Cody’s reply is an opinion, it’s not the law. And as mentioned by Cireo’s comment above, your question here is in principle doing the same thing so it seems you also disagree, or at least that your agreement is inconsistent. — Konrad Rudolph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 posts memes
@KonradRudolph even if just an opinion, it is one that nearly all moderators stand by. Even recently a moderator proposed that a subset of these comments are 1-flag cleaned automatically. In other words, one cannot expect such comments to stay for long. The rest of the comment that you edited in is a far-fetched extrapolation of what I said, and will be ignored. — E_net4 posts memes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@E_net4postsmemes You do you but you’re starting to sound a bit hypocritical. — Konrad Rudolph 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 posts memes
@KonradRudolph Where exactly am I being hypocritical? — E_net4 posts memes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@E_net4postsmemes Like I said, this very question is the moral equivalent of the “why the downvote” comment. This isn’t a “far-fetched extrapolation”, it’s a clearly apparent fact. (And that’s totally fine, by the way.) — Konrad Rudolph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 posts memes
@KonradRudolph No, because that requires equating "explanations to downvotes" with "explanations to flag outcomes", an apples and oranges kind of comparison that does not check out. — E_net4 posts memes 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@E_net4postsmemes It’s only an apples to oranges comparison if you assume a priori that every downvote is deserved (which seems to be the case, from reading your frankly bizarre reply on your last link). But that’s nonsense. Downvotes, like flags, are feedback/moderation tools which are occasionally misapplied or controversial, and should not be shielded from scrutiny. — Konrad Rudolph 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 posts memes
@KonradRudolph Well, this isn't going anywhere, as clearly seen from your stance. Feel free to move away from my nonsense. Have a great day! — E_net4 posts memes 1 min ago
 
11:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
 
12:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Sorry for spamming this thread, but I think the newly introduced second flag button is causing a problem. Three users flagged this post an hour before the review ended. That should have been the result of the review. But it wasn't. It looks suspiciously like it's possible to override 4 users flagging a post (2 using "Flag" and 2 using "Needs author edit") with "Approve" or "Needs community edit". Both the "Needs author edit" and the "Flag" choice should be counted as the same choice. — Scratte 1 min ago
 
1:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T.J. Crowder
Another case where just adding the language can matter: TypeScript posts. The default formatting language for the TypeScript tag is JavaScript, despite the fact that highlight.js does a better job highlighting TypeScript when it knows it's TypeScript. So adding lang-typescript (with the lang- prefix) can improve the formatting of the code. Related FR here. — T.J. Crowder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I'm sure it's just them not having updated the button text yet. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Without additional restrictions, "[close voters get notifications ...] whether they are following the question or not." is simply a non-starter. I do not want or need ~46,000 notifications, thank you. The first change the company should make is to stop putting questions in the reopen queue when they're edited by someone other than OP. Then we can see how things start to look. Reopening on Stack Overflow is already 40% easier than yesteryear, ever since the threshold was changed to 3 votes. Considering many times askers reopen vote themselves, you often only need two votes to reopen a Q. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
This should have the additional requirement that the reopen vote also can't be by OP. With those two requirements: 'reopen vote cast by someone other than myself or OP' and this might work. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Tech Expert Guy
Line breaks in code are subjectively determined (you could have code that doesn't have any line breaks, but that would be too hard to read for other people), so if it's not like the edit made some hard-to-read code easier to read, I think these edits should be rejected. — The Tech Expert Guy 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
UI/UX principles dictate features should be opt-in, not opt-out. Especially features that send you notifications. Or do you think people enjoy spammy/unsolicited emails, newsletters, and notifications? Voting does not constitute interest or involvement to a the degree necessary to merit automatic notifications. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by UuDdLrLrSs
@TylerH I was specifically talking about voting to close, not upvote/downvotes. I think the choice of opt in/out depends on what the intended expectation is when the person engages in a VTC. It is my personal preference that I am generally interested to continue engaging in the question. — UuDdLrLrSs 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Also FWIW I felt the question score floor experiment was quite successful (apparently I'm alone in that). If questions stopped showing drops at -2 or -3, I think they'd get a lot fewer pile-on downvotes. Combine that re-implemented feature with a change to questions dropping off the homepage at -2 instead of -4 and I think questions stand a much better chance of being salvaged altogether. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
This, in my opinion, sounds like something you should be contacting Stack Overflow directly about and using the "I want to appeal a Code of Conduct Violation" option. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@UuDdLrLrSs So was I. "Voting" encompasses all forms of voting, including close and reopen voting. — TylerH 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I don't think the -400 reversal was from the 400-score bounty. You still earned that. The -400 score was likely from some user getting deleted or from the automatic system check that runs each day to see if someone serially upvoted you 40 times. — TylerH 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
Does this answer your question? This question already has answers where?toolic just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stevec
@toolic interesting, good spot. I guess it doesn't happen too often. — stevec 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
@TylerH, Do you see my 400 bounties in this list? as you see the moderator reverse and then undo his/her action. — AmerllicA 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
There quite a few "user removed"/"voting corrected" events in your reputation history. It would probably help if there were less of those. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
the last comment notes that "The currently shown duplicate has been deleted." — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by UuDdLrLrSs
@TylerH where was the term "voting" used that you are referring to? In any case I was not suggesting opt-out for anything but VTC. — UuDdLrLrSs 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Personally, i think the choice is more based on UX. Even if they end up in the same(ish) place, the reasons for the 2 are different. If a post is rude, or completely off topic (asks about Licensing for example) that would be a flag option. User edit would be more because it's in the wrong language, perhaps need an [mre] added, or the error they say they get. They lead to the same place, but you won't get people selecting "requires editting" for the reason "needs the error to be added by the OP in an edit". — Larnu 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
@Larnu, Thanks, I will do this, but I won't come back to Stack Overflow. here is a heaven of moderators to F*** some users like me. — AmerllicA 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
With respect, @AmerllicA, insulting the moderators is not going to help your case. This is a website aimed at professionals, and throwing such language in their direction is only going to make people side with the moderators and against yourself. The community expects all users to treat all other users with respect, whether they be new, experienced, veteran, moderator, or staff. *(Note this is aimed a comment that I have flagged as rude, and is likely deleted by the time many read this.) — Larnu 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
Here is the deleted duplicate: stackoverflow.com/questions/1534812/…. You can find this is the revision history. — Laurel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It would also probably be better if your colleagues and friends didn't award you hefty bounties. That very soon starts looking suspicious. — yivi 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
Dear @yivi, You are everywhere and I don't know why you just wanna say something, I guess you don't think about your works even one second. I just ask you, please do not post anything under my post. just it. thanks. — AmerllicA 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@AmerllicA I see, however, the message next to the -460 loss on your profile shows "Voting corrected". That's not a moderator engaging in a personal vendetta, it's an application of system rules / guidelines on what kind of voting is acceptable on the site. So again I'm not sure it wasn't automated, in at least some part. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stevec
@Laurel I get a page not found here on SO. But I can see an older version here: web.archive.org/web/20101115142205/https://stackoverflow.com‌​/…stevec just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
@TylerH, I calculated all of my bounties by using hand and bot and I'm sure the moderator reverses a decision of another user, and it is pure violence. — AmerllicA 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It doesn't work like that, @AmerllicA. I'm as part of the community as anybody else. You don't get to exclude me just because. And I'm not sure I understand or like your "you are everywhere", or your "you don't think about your works even [for] one second". — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I must admit, after reading that chat log it does look like you are "gaming" the system with comments like "upvote this my answer, because I am willing to reach it to 20 score and then win a gold medal." and "I manage all comments, delete the read ones and then A moderator found our crime!!". That latter comment admits to it... If you and mleister are connected from the same IP, I would not blame a moderator for being suspicious. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
@Larnu, I don't know mleister and he is for another country. please do not judge me by these guesses. — AmerllicA 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@AmerllicA I appreciate that as humans we make emotional responses to things, however, some of the responses you are giving here, with emotions run high, are not positive to the community or your plight. I would at least suggest taking a "time out" and letting your emotions run their course before making comments that can easily be read as rude or insulting. You'll likely find that you read the comments in a different light when your frame of mind changes. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@UuDdLrLrSs Your post says you want an opt-out auto-follow feature after talking about your efforts to follow questions you vote to close. Voting to close is something I do quite often and also is quite often done on posts where no amount of editing would salvage them/make me interested in re-visiting (e.g. recommendation questions, topics far too broad for SO, things not remotely about programming). Especially for people who are active in the queue vs people who only close vote organically, this would be way, way, way more noise than signal. — TylerH 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by UuDdLrLrSs
@TylerH thanks, I understand what you meant now. — UuDdLrLrSs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I am simply stating that's an interpretation, @AmerllicA . I used "if" as I have no way of confirming that interpretation. I am sure mods have far more access to related meta data than I do. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomer Shetah
Yes, it still doesn't answer my question. — Tomer Shetah 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"I get a page not found here on SO" only those with 10k+ reputation can view deleted posts. Don't worry, you're not far off. :) — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Moderators can't reverse stuff, but SE staff can. I'm pretty confident a mod escalated your case to the Community management team, where they analyzed the voting and bounty patterns and then SE staff went directly into the database to apply the reversals. That is what you see in your history. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frank Schmitt
@StackOverthrow I consider myself somewhat of an old-timer (being a member for almost 10 years now), and I strongly oppose mandatory comments on downvotes (personally, I sometimes add an explanatory comment if it's not blatantly obvious why I downvote, but in the majority of occasions, I don't bother). — Frank Schmitt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
The bounty is indeed removed: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1318079 that you still see it on the site is probably a caching issue. If the posts html gets regenerated, for example by editing the answer, I assume the +400 badge you see on the answer will be gone. But I'm not 100% sure. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by klutt
Braces for single statements is something where opinions differ a lot. Also, that's definitely not the relevant issue with this aswer. — klutt 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
@rene, I'm pretty sure the SE staffs don't valorize for a user like me, they pay attention to the high reputation users and moderators, I didn't cheat, I worked on that issue for 3 days,and the post owner gave it to me. Obviously, this is Code of Conduct violence — AmerllicA 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@TylerH It’s incredibly unproductive to start a discussion based on a ridiculous hyperbole. Your number is completely baseless. If you max out your close votes per day you would get at most a handful of notifications — maybe one or two per day, maybe more (and this may well turn out to be too much, but there’s no need to make up ridiculous numbers). — Konrad Rudolph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@rene - I never viewed that question and it shows as having a bounty awarded to that answer. — Security Hound 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
@AmerllicA You're not doing yourself any favours with your tone and use of language here. To the main point though - the mods asked the CM team to look at what could possibly be suspicious voting, they did and their conclusion was to invalidate certain things as you've noticed. Now, you could use the Contact Us link and plead your case -although it's unlikely to change anything. There's nothing the community or moderators can do at this point so I'm afraid there's little point discussing it further. — Jon Clements ♦ 52 secs ago
 
2:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@KonradRudolph Where's the hyperbole? That's the number of close votes I've actually cast. Per day, I could get 40, or even more if some questions are deleted allowing me to re-cast, notifications, not just "one or two" per day. If you want to be notified when a user edits an off-topic post in a pointless way, that's fine. But don't ask for everybody's time to be wasted along with yours. — TylerH 50 secs ago
 
2:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@TylerH But only a tiny fraction of these are edited by the author (~17% on a subset of close reasons are edited, but the vast majority of these edits are not by the author), let alone in a substantial way (creating an automatic threshold may not be trivial but is entirely feasible). That’s the hyperbole. — Konrad Rudolph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristinalustig
@Scratte Thanks for bringing this up - I'm looking into this now. — kristinalustig ♦ 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@KonradRudolph It's not hyperbole to say my experience is different from yours, it's just... reality. You for example have somehow never seen a question you voted to reopen get reopened. Chances of that happening over such a long period of time are way less than .01% I think. Either your sample size is way too small or your criteria for what qualifies for reopening needs some serious re-adjusting. — TylerH 24 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joel Coehoorn
No, I think I do understand those roles.. I think most others do, too. But those features were set up to include a wide berth for user discretion, and I believe over the years that discretion has tilted far too much towards closing+downvoting weak questions, especially among new users, often to the detriment of the site as a whole. I also believe very strongly in question quality standards, but I believe the way to get there is by teaching those who come here to do better, not by shutting them out or driving them off. — Joel Coehoorn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristinalustig
I think this is a really fair point. That combined with the added complexity of the LQP queue using the same option on the backend means that, for now, we're going to change it back to "Looks OK." Trying to get that change out today, I'll update my post when I do. Thanks for the feedback! — kristinalustig ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Konrad Rudolph
@TylerH To be clear, me never having witnessed a reopening was since the recent introduction of the “follow” feature (and I don’t follow all questions I close, only those that I deem salvageable; I also haven’t used all my downvotes per day in quite a while). Your 0.01% number is once again purely made up, I bet the real number for this is way higher, since this happened to me. — Konrad Rudolph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristinalustig
And @gnat I'm fixing this as well - thanks for calling it out! — kristinalustig ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
At worst it's an attempt of an Answer. There's are no rules that will grant an NAA on that post. The upvotes says it's useful. — Scratte 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
eh, the upvotes don't change anything about whether or not it's NAA. Nor do they strictly indicate usefulness. @Scratte — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@KevinB You're right, of course. But NAA don't usually attract a lot of upvotes, simply because they don't answer the Question at all. Not even partially. Granted some links-only Answers sends the reader somewhere else, which some find to be useful, but they also do not actually answer anything themselves, not even partially. — Scratte 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristinalustig
@Scratte Actually, can you send a link to the particular post you screenshotted? It'd make debugging much easier, thank you! — kristinalustig ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
i do agree though that the answer in question is most certainly not NAA. i just disagree that the voting in any way should affect that decision. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
please consider tagging the linked bug report with status-planned - this seems to be established convention for issues that are expected to be fixed — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I assume you're suggesting that a post you made on meta received downvotes, and those downvotes caused your question rate limiting on the main site to become worse? — Kevin B 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@kristinalustig I believe I took it from this reviewScratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
If you have a meta question that gets downvoted, usually people either (1) disagree with your request/suggestion (in which case, don't take them personally!) or (2) think you haven't done enough research (eg, there are multiple easily-findable prior discussions on the subject). On the main site, downvotes are directly related to quality, but on Meta, it may mean quality or it may mean just disagreement. — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I'll have to do a bit of searching (unless someone beats me to it) but i don't think voting on meta in any way affects your ability to post on main. Most likely, your meta question attracted people to view your profile, and then further explore the posts you made and vote on them. — Kevin B just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
why not searching an online game where you can earn/buy virtual points and compete with others? You seems not focused on the content or quality in the site but only reputation and points. Let's admit SO did a mistake removing your bounty, it's not the end of the world and you will lose nothing. Keep adding good content and you will logically earn more useless and virtual points — Temani Afif 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Answering It All
@KevinB Exactly. My question on the main site doesn't affect anything but the meta one did. I want to actually change this so that I can fix the posting rate. — Answering It All 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Answering It All
@RobertLongson Glad you realized that. I will put up the link, please wait. — Answering It All 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Hard for us to comment on why a question was treated the way it was when you're not linking the question so we don't know what it was about. But meta and main are separate you can be banned on one and post on the other. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@KevinB Sorry I have here a home rule: if I see an "i", I vote the post down. I can not vote your comment down, but I will leave it unreacted. Please at least try to use markups, capitals, round sentences, etc. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Answering It All
Also, I want to let you know that by quality, I meant an edit from the past. Please look at revisions for more details, — Answering It All 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
I've accepted your answer on the basis of, "Look, No Hans!" Please don't be offended if I later un-accept if circumstances change! 😊‎ — Adrian Mole 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@peterh-ReinstateMonica honestly, i dont really care, :) — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@KevinB Yes, I know. All the people with "i"s and without bothering to write markups, sentences, etc, behaves so. So, I will be the possible worst also to them. And they don't care - as you can see, the Nash-equilibrium of the system will be a frozen, mutually hostile state, and no one can do anything to it. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
@peterh-ReinstateMonica Out of curiosity (if I may ask, since I like trivia), what inspires you to encourage proper grammar? — Clockwork 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
If you raise a feature request people will vote on whether they think it's a good idea or not so either they didn't think it was a good idea or they didn't understand it. — Robert Longson 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@KevinB Your main site posts are HQ! You don't care only in your meta comments. Uhmm... — peterh - Reinstate Monica 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@Clockwork About 2/3 of the users of the site are not a native English speaker, resulting that all of us need to be give his best in the communication. "i" does not really harm the communication, but it is a clear signature that the user lacks even the most minimal cooperativaty with the other users of the site. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
i consider comments to informal and effectively scheduled for deletion — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
@KevinB You are a special case, most of the rergular "i"-writers are VLQ users with VLQ posts. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 posts memes
This reiteration of the question is still very unclear. Answering the two questions: 1. they already don't affect your posting capabilities on the main site; 2. ...when someone votes based on that assessment, I guess? Meta does in fact have low quality questions, while at the same time it's true that votes can be the judgement call on any premise or proposal made by the question. — E_net4 posts memes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
No offence intended, @Joshua! — Adrian Mole 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joshua
@AdrianMole: I'm no export in windows API, but I am an expert in HDC at least. I say we don't need the tag. — Joshua 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flydog57
Given how these threads are normally so full of puns, I think @AdrianMole wins the prize for today with his "Look, No Hans!" comment. — Flydog57 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AmerllicA
@TemaniAfif, Thanks. but the moderators, They are so annoying. — AmerllicA 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“Likewise, I don't like how the question received a downvote, especially since it wrecked the schedule of question posting.” How exactly did a downvote prevent you from submitting a question? — Security Hound 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“even they have relation to the SE staffs and all of them could reverse anything by using tools or directly changing DB.” - This simply isn’t true.Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@RoshinRaphel - You selected the incorrect option, this wasn’t the first time, did you ask about your first review suspension less than 2 months ago (approximately)? The question didn’t mean even minimum guidelines for a question. — Security Hound 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
The language should probably exist first, and there should be at least one question on the site proper which deserves the tag for the tag to be created — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
Please ask only one question per question, especially if the questions are barely related. — GalaxyCat105 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
If your unwilling to edit your question, and resolve the issues with the question, then the question is unsalvageable and it should be closed and/or deleted. — Security Hound 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
an answer being wrong/useless doesn't make it not an answer. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
the answer was flagged as very low quality and received 4 recommend deletion reviews... why wasn't it deleted? The best thing you can do when you encounter a low quality/useless question is downvote it. — Kevin B 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-Claude Arbaut
Well, since it doesn't answer the question, I wouldn't call it an answer either. But maybe the policy is not as strict as on Math.SE. — Jean-Claude Arbaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
The answer looks utterly unrelated to the question, but unfortunately, that doesn't make it flaggable, despite being intuitively undeserving of continuing to exist on the site. When you see something like that, downvote (looks like you haven't done that yet). Once a post has negative votes, 10kers can vote to delete it without flag involvement. — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
You need at least 1500 reputation to create tags. — GalaxyCat105 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@WayneConrad - You were likely suspended before — Security Hound 13 secs ago
 
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