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12:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
"I am unable to find any solutions" is not a question. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
12:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Or add a comment. — Peter Mortensen 9 secs ago
 
1:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
You might not be able to place a bounty on the question, but others can, which is why you want to frame a question to make it as easy to understand and (in particular) as interesting as possible. Even if you don't get an answer, you'll likely attract decent chatter in your question's comment section, and if you do, you could always ask someone to help you with a bounty. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 10 secs ago
 
1:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Why developer minded souls is treated as dangerous and totally wrong answers is accepted and most voted? Do reputations turn people cracy? — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
 
1:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Many downvotes is not a false perception if counting all those that get deleted. By deleting and hiding the perception is not as bad and you believe it is a false perception that there is many downvotes. I dont downvote much because I dont want to loose my mind. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Zoe You are conflating two things. The answer you cite says "rejected for not making a meaningful improvement or making the post easier to read", while peterh says "user suggests an edit, and it is an improvement". Your citation doesn't support your argument. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
-15 ... There is a lot of info here the downvoters not want us to see — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alex
So why doesn't official open API for community to do that. — Alex 1 min ago
 
2:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
The kids is those who set the programmers in isolation. How can developing be so dangerous? We are treated worse than terrorists. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 35 secs ago
 
2:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Reopen does not happen but closing is fun try making the hard workers upset. Why am I adicted to this? Three maniacs set me in isolation and I believe kindness and hard work to try explain does work. They are IDIOmaTIC, not developer minded, want not to contribute. I talk about those who close and not want to reopen because I have more brain. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
 
2:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
I reopened question after soo much refinements and they deleted it all! Another invention got stolen :( I wanted others to see and learn — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
 
3:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Reason to close as unclear is unclear. Reason to close as too broad is too broad. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 26 secs ago
 
3:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
I dont understand a fucking shit so I have the rights to shut you everyone down! Idiots get the powers and those who are programmers with a developing mind must be punished so hard. How often dont we see the not understanding in the comments from those who closed? — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
It is not a re-open procedure, it is a deletion-procedurePauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Acting by not understanding is only idiots doing. If there are 3 who understand the question and can participate and there are 3000 who not understand there are no rights whatsoever for those 3000 to disturb the important work! — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@gparyani that's wrong. Please vote to delete from review. If the post author undeletes mods will get an auto flag, and we can take corrective action. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gparyani
@SamuelLiew Some of these spammers are exploiting another loophole: re-deleting clears said automatic flag, so they undelete and re-delete, and then at some unknown point later, undelete again. This won't solve that problem. — gparyani 27 secs ago
 
4:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Not really, @Brock - but I might be able to help you with that query if you give me a link (or a spec). — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
 
 
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5:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@gparyani if you see this happening please custom flag.. we can delete accounts — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patel Romil
[ Boson ] New comment posted by weegee
@lucidbrot it was a valid close. The OP provided no code and was asking the best way or the most optimised way. Do you know, that type of question are considered too broad for even code review? Do check their site. This discussion is off-topic here. If you want to get more information, talk to us in the meta roomweegee 1 min ago
 
6:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by weegee
the unmitigated rage when we're either closing it because it's too broad, or it's a dupe...that certainly makes me feel unwelcomed. Why? Because you didnt research enough, if the question got closed as a dupe. Maybe you didn’t read the how to ask page before posting your broad question? You feel unwelcomed just because you didn’t read the rules? — weegee 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 
6:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
You mention you'd request the paid work from another site. I'd say, as long as that's not against that site's rules it's fine - the request for someone to do the job as paid work is not on Stack Overflow. It would be nice if that person (or you) then posted the solution as an Answer, here. But If no one here could answer and you paid for it, that would be completely up to you. — Cindy Meister just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
ALL: I do not think this is a duplicate. The OP has stated the request for paid work would be posted on another site. Those questions all have to do with money being offered on Stack Overflow. — Cindy Meister 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
Total beginners can't always interpret an (oder) IDE that only says "Syntax error". — Cindy Meister 50 secs ago
 
7:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
...Your reference to article about Facebook suggests that you are primarily concerned that this influence can get manipulative, well yes I worry about this too. I can't make others vote fairly but I try to avoid doing that myself and what helps me here is making a rational explanation prior to voting in a particular direction. Usually I keep these explanations by myself but since other user expressed their concerns about voting here I decided to share my reasoning — gnat 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@JonEricson good catch, I meant to write "I can vote as I please as long as it's not personal". As for the influencing, this is unavoidable effect of voting that rates content. Votes are intended to tell readers whether content is good or bad and this is by design an attempt to influence their behavior with regards to rated posts... — gnat 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
There are still inconsistencies, for example the badge requirements still have “up vote” and “down vote”, with a space. — Sebastian Simon 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@Braiam sure, and edits that actually are an improvement should naturally be approved. My point, if I didn't make it clear enough, is that terrible edits are still approved, and bumping questions into the reopen queue over an edit like that is a waste of reviews for one, and it doesn't help the author of the question. I mentioned it because, in my opinion, it didn't look like the answer remembered to address robo-reviewers and other ways horrible edits get through without being an improvement (such as human error). The answer looks like it's, in part, based on that as well. — Zoe 19 secs ago
 
7:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
There is nothing more “complete”. Flag/vote to close; comment if you want. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Udo E.
@yivi, can't the asker be guided on whether to delete or not after problem is solved in the FAQ for instance? — Udo E. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don’t believe that kind of comment is useful. And may lead to arguments. Just let the system work and let the user make their own decisions. — yivi 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@weegee Seems like you got something wrong here. Makoto is not posting from the viewpoint of a user getting their question closed, but from the viewpoint of a moderating ist closing a question and receiving hate for it. — Modus Tollens 15 secs ago
 
7:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I would have thought that message was self explanatory. — yivi 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DmitriySidyakin
... over 2 days? — DmitriySidyakin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@PauliSudarshanTerho Tone down the insults in comments and answers, please, they are not constructive. — Modus Tollens 6 secs ago
 
8:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@PauliSudarshanTerho exactly, we don't think users should actively raise flags to resurrect now deleted comments. The correct cause of action is editing the post to include the info from those comments. Comments are post-it notes, and just as their real-life counter parts they don't tend to stick forever ... — rene 43 secs ago
 
9:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
...Your reference to article about Facebook suggests that you are primarily concerned that this influence can get manipulative, well yes I worry about this too. I can't make others vote fairly but I try to do that myself and what helps me here is making a rational explanation prior to voting in a particular direction. Usually I keep these explanations by myself but since other user expressed their concerns about voting here I decided to share my reasoning — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard
@Alex do what exactly? — Shadow Wizard 53 secs ago
 
9:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
FWIW sometimes you can get a completely informal discussion going in chat that would point you to those kinds of resources... I think a certain minimum of reputation points may be needed in order to join chat groups (certainly, in order to create one - but I can't remember what's required to join an existing one). — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
 
10:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@CindyMeister the chat privilege comes at 20 reputation. You can chat sooner then you can comment ... and at 100 reputation you can create chatroomsrene 1 min ago
 
10:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by a_horse_with_no_name
@weegee: yes, correct. — a_horse_with_no_name 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by lucidbrot
I am not really invested enough in that specific example to discuss in chat. But: It was a question by a user who realized their way was bad and wanted a better way (note: not The Best Way™) and guiding them would not be easier with a code example. — lucidbrot 9 secs ago
 
11:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Deletions can not be other than descructive and should be impossible to do without some constructive work, like telling why, learning someone something to not repeat a behaviour to delete again, or just make use of intelligence to replace comments by a summary or put the good points in the question or answer. Is it the reputations breeding criminals or why are the so many? On SO they move freely when they can not in real life. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 37 secs ago
 
12:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Deletions is descructive and should be impossible without constructive work, like telling why, learning some knowledge (about the topic not vague communityrules if they really believe they are superior) so the endless repeatition of finding answers could stop instead of deleteing more and more. Just make use of the superiour expertice (uh) to replace comments by a summary or put the good points in the question or answer. Is it the reputations breeding cryminls and why let them do so much harm deleting without building. Destruct only by compensate with minimizing construction! — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
But in this subsystem they move freely when they can not in the protected real life. Deletion IS a cryminl act when doing it in secret and without any help. Deleteing truths about the crm system breeding them. The more they delete the more we shout, outside if not possible here. Those with no ability to speak should not delete. The most common phrases that fit on a dize, like this is unclear or too broad is not enough because no brainwork is not needed to roll a dize. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
What's wrong with a public room? Create it, and then post a link as a comment to your question — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
But in this subsystem they move freely when they can not in the protected real life. Deletion IS a cryminl act when doing it in secret and without any help to us. Deleteing truths about the crm system breeding them. The more they delete the more we shout, outside if not possible here. Those with no ability to speak should not delete. The most common phrases that fit on a dize, like "this is unclear" or "too broad" is not enough because no brainwork is needed to roll a dize. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
There is no difference between a "discussion" room for a question and a public room, except that the Feeds user created it and posts the link to the question as first message. And it doesn't have a room owner. And on the all rooms search page it shows up on a different place. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by weegee
@lucidbrot that is your comment, the question was different. It is indeed too broad. No code and other reasons were secondary to judge. It has no code, and asking us to make it from scratch is also not a easy thing to do — weegee 1 min ago
 
1:06 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
Thanks, @rene That's sooner than I'd thought :-) — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Background if you need: I had a question that got closed as unclear because of oppinionated reasons: Object.prototype.pop() is forbidden for beginners but is effective in optimization. I had put more and more work and edited best I could according to moderators misunderstanding comments. They said "I dont understand" without asking a specific question. Their lack of knowledge should holded it closed. They wanted use cases and I was aware it could make question too broad, so I was extremely careful to put the last words. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
There's several languages that in some or another way have a pop function related to lists. In addition to list, also note some languages use arrays or sets instead. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Thank you! Maybe a pure moderator based system could work if more is as kind as you. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
1. If your question was not deleted, you can see it in your question list. 2. If it was, you can see it in the list of your "recently deleted questions". 3. If it isn't there, you can politely ask a mod to show the link to you. Nothing forbids to the mods to show it for you, but also nothing enforces them. They typically fulfill such good-standing single asks. — peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
I think, unless that's limited to 10k users, you can search for isdeleted:1. Unless you're a moderator, it'll show you your posts that've been deleted. Alternatively, go to the reputation tab and scroll down. Make sure "Show deleted posts" is checked. Your post had downvotes, so you should see a +x removed in the event list (or -2 downvoted if you go back a little in time). That approach only works while the post is deleted. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Zoe isdeleted:1 is 10K only: meta.stackexchange.com/a/270562/158100rene 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
@peterh, the question was automatically deleted by a deamon with name CommunityPauli Sudarshan Terho 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@Braiam But that's just "edited and then reopened". It's not "edited by someone other than OP, and then reopened". — JL2210 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@PauliSudarshanTerho There was an answer on there that was deleted yesterday by the answerer. Doing so, in combination with a score <= 0 and the question being closed triggered the 10 day roomba criteria, which is why Community deleted it. See stackoverflow.com/help/roomba for the deletion criteria — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
Wow, this is too much for my brain to hold, I want to focus on the topics instead of become a system expert — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
Can we please stop this? We're not going to get anywhere by attacking each other. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
You don't need to remember all the criteria. Just know that under some circumstances, an automated process deletes questions defined as abandoned. If you want the specific details though (either now or in the future), it's all in the link — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
I think it's just to show you where you are in comparison. I can't speak for the underlaying motivations. It's slightly confusing though, not really the best design. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
They close it again with no hints at all! HELP! stackoverflow.com/questions/56199543/…Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@JL2210 that's counting all the non-OP edits. If they were that prevalent in the site, we would see a higher difference between the proportion of questions that gets edited and reopened vs edited and stays closed. Yes, it may happen, but it's not that significant right now, specially looking at the questions closed with unclear. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by J Arun Mani
Yea that makes sense. So the the number on extreme left, shows the points I earned in that respective tag (here its python) ? Okay, they could show it in a separate column, its confusing and disappointing to know that I still have a long way to go... ^^ — J Arun Mani 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
I undeleted my answer. Someone has edited the post. Work is going on. Just one more close vote for any reasons at all :( I commented: This post got closed, reopened, now two close votes again! It should be impossible without helpful notification! I dont know if you are jokers or try by this involve me in making the system better. "Deleted automatically by Community" - the core phrases built in system is twisted too or a lie.Three persons call them selves Community — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by J Arun Mani
Yea, I got it :) — J Arun Mani 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brock Adams
Thanks, @Shog9, that line of inquiry didn't {strike}support my agenda{/strike} yield consistent results and I've dropped it. ... But I've got plenty of other queries, like this one that timeout on SO's data; if you can tune something up to make it fully functional, that would be great. — Brock Adams 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
It's perfectly reasonable IMO. — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Aren't we all top users? — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
We should at least incent those people what they can do with debugging their code. — πάντα ῥεῖ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
The backticks are prone to mistakes, such as including words in "code". — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
THEY DELETED MY ANSWER UNNOTIFIED! I putted it back again — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauli Sudarshan Terho
It is not the tool - it is how tools is used. And tools should exist to hand the misusers high! Those who repetetively have hit close vote without communicating during this experimental period is in the statistics. Send them to the court! — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
If you checkout the page while logged out, you will notice that. — Braiam 1 min ago
 
3:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@πάνταῥεῖ: I don't necessarily disagree. I'm merely framing the position from what the new policies seem to be at this point. — Makoto 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
I cannot see how is "being nice" policy in contradiction with suggesting debugging as step toward solution? — Dalija Prasnikar 7 secs ago
 
3:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
smells a bit like a one-level tag hierarchy: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255245/…rene 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Also related to this MSE questionRobert Longson 42 secs ago
 
3:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
Downvoting without explaining is annoying. Explain why I'm wrong. — Gaurav Mall 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave
No it doesn't but that's why there is a flag for comments like that. — Dave 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
@GauravMall then flag those comments, but that doesn't make your action acceptable. — jonrsharpe 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Gaurav cursing you isn't moderation. You ask about moderation in your question — Patrice 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
I did, but that doesn't validate that somebody can curse you(f*** words were used) — Gaurav Mall 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave
Downvotes never need to be explained and on meta they simply mean people disagree with you. — Dave 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
"It was really important" - to you. That's not a valid excuse to knowingly post something off-topic. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
Off-topic doesn't mean that somebody can curse you(f*** words were used) — Gaurav Mall 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
You knowingly went against the rules. What did you expect? In my opinion the very fact you know it makes it worse. 'hey, I know this isn't the site you wanted to be, I know this will be deleted, removing all useful information for the future, which is literally against the reason behind this side, but I really need help?'. Don't get me wrong. It sucks to be stuck on something like this. I empathize. But stack doesn't have to be the solution to ALL programming related questions. — Patrice 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
340 up, 84 down. Not exactly stellar 'keeping the site clean':( — Martin James 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller
"Helping others should be the main objective" - It's an awesome byproduct if an individual is helped, but it is not the goal. SO is not a helpdesk, its purpose is to be a useful repositority of knowledge for future readers to come. Voting is how we signal what should stay, and what should go. — StoryTeller 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
see also: Why was my question so quickly deleted by a moderator? at SE.SE meta. "...We have no obligation to keep your question around if it doesn't meet our community's standards. That's how it works here. Next time, you should read a site's rules and standards before posting your question." — gnat 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
I'm embarrassed that this is even a question. If a user cannot debug, they cannot develop computer programs and should stop trying to outsource the hard bits to SO. There's a reason that skilled and experienced developers are paid well, and its got nothing to do with writing code. — Martin James 1 min ago
 
4:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩
It asks for judgement on the part of anyone answering and thus it is an opinion based question. — Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
It reads like a hardware recommendation question to me. This would be off-topic on SO. Also, compile time will depend on a lot of factors, not only on the number of CPU cores. Your question, btw, does not have any close votes at the moment. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony_Henrich
Any why the close vote here as well!!? — Tony_Henrich 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony_Henrich
Where's the opinion or hardware recommendation? It's asking if VS is able to use the increased number of cores. — Tony_Henrich 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@Tony_Henrich: There are no close votes to your question here. Are you confusing down-votes with close-votes? — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony_Henrich
@bdl I am aware there are other factors. I am asking about cores also. It's not a mutual exclusive thing. I meant downvotes. Well now it's getting down and close votes because of the exposure my question got from here. Thanks guys! — Tony_Henrich 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@rene I think it is more like an instinctual thing than a rational strategy. — peterh 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Yeah, I totally fear my privileged position. The horror that someone else is going to share the effort to moderate this pit ... — rene 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@rene Btw, you are not so bad. The really bad guys only vote for down, close, delete, silently - because they know very well that it is right. The really bad guys won't ever start a debate below such a post. — peterh 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Since we're low-key sharing content but not context, this is the relevant question, and this is a screenshot of it for <10k users. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Tbh, I've seen worse answers from you. If you only could resist the urge to include your vendetta into every single post ... but we've been over this before IIRC. No need to rehash. Have fun! — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@rene My vendetta is against this monopolistic opinion-terror. A healthy community should be able to embrace contradicting opinions. The MSO is the exact opposite of it - actually, even if you represent the majority opinion, you will be likely voted down, for anything. I say, it is enough - so I totally ignore the so-named "majority opinion", and I simply say what I think right. And I spit to the voting scores. I hope, others will follow my example. You can consider this vendetta, if you wish, actually it is - but still I am sure, this is the right thing to do. — peterh 1 min ago
 
5:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by User1973
@CindyMeister I think you're right. I think people were excessively dismissive on this one. — User1973 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
"yes officer, I told you, I know that shoplifting is illegal. I think you're going a bit overboard with your policing, because I already said I knew" — TheWanderer 32 secs ago
 
5:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
As the moderator that deleted your post because you had to flag it for deletion (I was actually going to send you a moderator-only message for this): Don't abuse the site by deliberately posting posts you know violate our rules. That's not going overboard, that's just how the site works. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Oh, I'm not defending the logic here @DalijaPrasnikar. I'm merely framing the position from what the new policies seem to be at this point. I do agree that asking someone to debug your code is a reasonable ask, but I've personally never been able to make that sound "nice" without it coming across as me with all of my rep stating, "Hey, why aren't you debugging your code?" I'd rather users debugged their code before asking a question here - no doubt - but I've never come across a message asking someone to do that that felt welcoming enough to slide. — Makoto 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
You don't lose any privileges if other people catch up to you in rep. I don't understand why you would think people would be afraid of losing something they can't lose, because of an even that doesn't affect them. — TheWanderer 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@TheWanderer Yes, this is why we should actually help and motivate others to collect more and more rep, instead of harassing them. — peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
@peterh if you see someone actually harassing someone else, flag it. — TheWanderer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Whatever you want; as long as your “contract” with the freelancer allows it. — yivi 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
If you're going to pay someone to answer your question, and you want to go with option A, then you shouldn't ask it on SO. Otherwise, I don't really see a problem. You're doing everything related to payment completely separately from the site. As long as the question is on topic and good, and the answer is too, then we won't know the difference. I'm not sure someone who could be paid each time that question is asked by someone would like to post the answer publicly and only be paid once, though. — TheWanderer 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@TheWanderer I do. How about this post? (Sorry I think we are long on offtopic waters) — peterh 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
@peterh I'm not sure I see where there's any harassment going on there. Even I downvoted the question because I had no idea what you were trying to say. You seemed to be arguing that it shouldn't be a bad thing to gain rep, but that's already the consensus. It's just bad to gain rep with the sole intention of gaining rep, instead of prioritizing the purpose of the site: good content. — TheWanderer 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
Well, just as a side question were could I have aksed my question? — Gaurav Mall 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
I do contribute. I didn't get my 1,200 reputation from now-where. But I also got work to do. — Gaurav Mall 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
@Patrice In your bio, you state that your job is to help customers. That has to do with customer support. My question was labeled off-topic because it had to do with customer support. What's more, it was directed towards firebase users, who only would know the answer. So that said: If not at stackoverflow where could I have asked my question? Firebase Support takes up to 3-4 days. I only had hours, what should I had done? — Gaurav Mall 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
Even though, I am going to get a lot of comments about this: Just now 3 views happened within a second and they just downvoted my question in 1-2 seconds. Whatever the loading delay the could not have the question is 2 seconds. — Gaurav Mall 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
Also, once somebody posts something even remotely bad, everybody goes to their profile and starts downvoting all of their posts. If that is fair, I don't know what this site is doing. — Gaurav Mall 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gaurav Mall
Also(this is with every post I have seen) when somebody sees there are a lot of downvotes, they are influenced to add a downvote without even reading the question. — Gaurav Mall 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChrisF
If they aren't here to answer those questions then that is a poor reflection on them. — ChrisF ♦ 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Even if the question might be on-topic, it is certainly missing all details. What's the input html code, how is the library used, ... — BDL 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@ChrisF Disagree. There are over 1000 questions about mpdf here - a library that has one active maintainer, finwe. He fixes issues and reviews and merges PRs and has put up extensive documentation. He's not morally obligated to also answer 1000 questions on Stack Overflow, as the price of making a piece of software available to the world. Let him do the bits of work that he's willing to take on, and whoever wishes to do so shoulder the rest. — Mark Amery 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@Makoto Actually, it all boils down to "be nice" is poor choice of words. We should not be nice, but professional. Nice raises unreasonable expectations. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChrisF
@MarkAmery - I wasn't aware that it was just one person. The usual state of affairs is for companies to tell people to use SO and not follow up. However, I still believe it would look better if they were clear that they can't handle all the questions themselves. — ChrisF ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I don't disagree with you @DalijaPrasnikar. It's professional to ask someone to attach a debugger to their code to see what's going on. Unfortunately...I don't think many others see this site as a "professional" environment these days. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clive
You don't have to read much to be fair. So, I decided to post a question that would have been off-topic is the fourth sentence. Pair that with the title and it's not difficult to work out if one agrees with the sentiment of the post — Clive 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@Trilarion you may be paying too much attention to visible size of close queue - it is too easy to manipulate to be treated seriously. I've got a habit to just ignore it (especially after I learned about stats showing that vast majority of questions that leaked through close queue are eventually handled by other subsystems and end up closed or deleted anyway). You better try to find some other way to estimate efficiency of your close votes — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jhpratt
@CindyMeister The answers are still the same, though. — jhpratt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Many high-rep users strongly dislike others working for the rep, fearing their privilegized position in the system, and ignoring that the rep is the main drive of the volunteer contributions to the site." - what privilegized position? The "honor of cleaning up the trash"? Rep only gets you privileges. Purely technically, someone could write answers that only are community wikis after they hit for an instance the commenting privilege, and it still doesn't make them any less valuable to the site. Good contributers come in all rep ranges, and contributions exist in all forms, and not all are — Zoe 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
visible. Some edit (more visible), some close questions, some answer, some ask, some take on the massive job of coordinating burninations. More people means, on average, less work for users. The CV queue is growing out of control, and while what we need is a higher vote total, that mainly means new close voters. For each 5 users who hit 3k rep, there's a potential to handle 50 more questions a day, but we're getting a whooping ~45-50k questions per week. — Zoe 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Further, most people post answers to questions that should be closed all the time. The answer this question attracted was from a person who, in the past, has posted answers to several off-topic questions instead of closing. You're talking about goodwill and people who don't do it for the rep, but they get to keep it most of the time. There's no community wiki either. People also give out bounties. Some more than others, and some have given out thousands of rep worth in bounties. It's pretty common because high-rep users actually have rep to spend. — Zoe 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by M.A.R.
Do you see another perspective on this? The answerer would be yet another one of "I just spent [some] effort on this and the OP deleted the post as soon as I posted my answer" people. It's really a no-win situation, and the only person who could have prevented it in the first place was only you. — M.A.R. 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
@GauravMall I'm surprised to know that you think it was OK to break the site's guidelines because of your own emergency. This leads to many more assumptions that I'd better of not explicitly state here, at the risk of being misinterpreted. The moderator's answer already seems to convey this pretty well, anyway. — E_net4 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
For comparison, a low-rep user who gives out a bounty risks using several privileges, especially if they're close to 1 rep (as in not thousands), while high-rep users (for an instance those stuck in the limbo between 3k and 10k, 10k and 15k, and 15k and 20k) aren't risking as much. The users with more than 20k rep won't lose any privileges if they don't drop under 20k. I'll argue the majority of high-rep users want to preserve the quality of the site, and don't mind new users gaining rep. Without new users, the site will die, because we will always lose users. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
However, I do agree with you on this: "My suggestion would be to tune your question asking tips & tricks (essentially: know and learn a lot of other SE sites. Practically all your problem has an on-topic part on at least one SE sites. Ask that part on that site, tuned for the expectations of that site.)" - that being said, OP has shown a disregard for the site rules by admitting they knew it was off-topic, but posting it anyway. I'd say the first step is realizing excuses doesn't make it any more permitted to ask the question. See the comments: i.imgur.com/8vibs39.pngZoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
I personally don't think that asking whether VS will use more cores is appropriate for SO - clearly one looked at the "Build and run option" and read corresponding help to know the answer... I don't see how one would be able to ask non-opinion based question after that. — Alexei Levenkov 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Downvotes on main question are necessary as you don't explain how just looking at "build and run" options is not enough... or what results of bing.com/search?q=vs+mulitcore+build fail to show... (that's from people who read title only, body of the post on main is completely hardware reco) — Alexei Levenkov 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
"Also, once somebody posts something even remotely bad, everybody goes to their profile and starts downvoting all of their posts." No, that is user targeting and one of the few cases of voting fraud. We have measures in place to reverse such votes, when they persist, one should flag for moderator attention. — E_net4 1 min ago
 
 
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8:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
What would the success criteria be for such a test? — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brad
If you're going to make it even easier to delete stuff, perhaps consider a time limit between closing and deletion. Pile-on close votes are a real problem, and rapidly turn into delete votes. — Brad 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brad
@Shog9 Whatever the criteria is for this test in the first place. However they plan to measure "efficacy" of the action. — Brad 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@GauravMall I can’t find any evidence of anyone using swearwords in the comments on that post. The only one having behaved inappropriately was you. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 59 secs ago
 
9:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Ok. So, efficacy of reopen votes isn't directly affected by close votes (or vice-versa): only one type can be cast at a time. So, the current test should tell us whether 3 is sufficient to improve the efficacy of reopen votes as well as if 3 can do so for close votes. — Shog9 ♦ 39 secs ago
 
9:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by joanis
@MarkAmery thank you for the clear answer and clarification about the mpdf project and its author. I'm a lot more willing to consider good questions from that project in the circumstances you describe. — joanis 1 min ago
 
9:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
@TheWanderer Sorry, I think we are on offtopic waters. Maybe it should be better to talk about it on the chat. You could read the discussion, the answers and the comments on the remote question. All of them says, that "it is ok, only ... is bad". The result is, what we can see on the main site - rejected edit suggestions, always urges to forbid more and more, nightmares of the CMs before they post to the MSE anything, and so on. Simpy the voting habits got an unhealthy direction. This should be fought. — peterh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
The entire div is hidden (it appears to use a with display: none on screens smaller than 640px) when the screen is small enough (meaning it's not just hidden away somewhere). — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
 
9:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Adding to what @Shog9 said, it's very unlikely that 4 users or more don't see a reopen nomination, unlike in the close queue where something could enter and no one look at it. — Braiam 1 min ago
 
10:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
Discussion about this FAQ proposal: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/388842/1709587Mark Amery 1 min ago
 
10:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
It's less unlikely than you might think, @braiam - though for different reasons. Askers delete their questions with some frequency - often before a review can complete. Also... Lots of people may see a question, but few may know the topic well enough to evaluate it; I've seen questions hang in review for weeks while everyone skips past them. There is certainly value in a lower threshold for reopen as well. — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by duplode
Tangential meta-meta two cents: discussing the appropriateness of a [faq-proposed] in the [faq-proposed] itself is awkward regardless of the strictness of comment moderation, so I don't think the justification in the second paragraph is truly necessary. Discussions about the need for a faq are often held before it is posted; the only difference here is that you are doing it after it was posted, which seems entirely fine to me. — duplode 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
I don't agree with this. Having "@Downvoters" in the comment is valuable because it makes clear that the comment is being made in response to negative feedback. Without that, to a visitor who sees the comment and doesn't have the privilege required to see that there have been downvotes, the comment's presence will be confusing. — Mark Amery 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255583/… please. You shouldn't try to create a new account to circumvent a possible ban in any case. — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brad
"Lots of people may see a question, but few may know the topic well enough to evaluate it" This is actually my beef with questions being so easy to close. I see a lot of questions in specific knowledge domains where the question makes perfect sense and is well-formed and clear for someone remotely familiar with the topic. That doesn't stop a bunch of people for coming by and saying, "oh there's no code so I'm going to drive-by downvote and vote to close." Even in cases where specific code isn't relevant or required for a specific question. — Brad 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
@Machavity it isn't duplicate. The warning clearly points me to the list of actions i can take to prevent that. This is question about best course of action. — Danilo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
@Machavity why did you remove the link? Please return it back. The link can give helpful insight in this occurrence. — Danilo 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@Danilo The link wasn't to a question. It was just a bunch of text in a link format. There's nothing to return — Machavity 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
No problem then. But please in future , comment that link is unreachable. I didn't knew that you can't see that link. — Danilo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
@Danilo Well, do as advised. Overhaul your older questions to improve them, before asking new questions. Especially the ones you deleted. — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
I've only deleted 1 question since it was necessary for delete your own question with 3 votes or higher badge. On other questions i was "trusted" and since that question i am not. And i have questions that propose ( show in code ) an dumb way to do something that was corrected in answer. I don't know what to edit there. I can edit last 2 attempts, but i don't see how that will help since warning wasn't from the future. — Danilo just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
probably best not to delete a question just to get a badge. And as we don't take such badges away once earned you can always undelete that question now. — Robert Longson 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
You won't get a ban for one problematic question. You likely have more questions that were downvoted and deleted. A moderator will probably post links to them here. You can then start to edit them. — Modus Tollens 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Ask a moderator and they'll give you the link to it if that's all that's holding you back from deleting it. — Robert Longson 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
@RobertLongson it was over a year ago... I was naive and stupid. That question is long gone now - I can't do nothing about it. — Danilo 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
@ModusTollens that would be nice. Machavity ... yeah you did in the edit, but not in the comment. If you were to mention it in the comment i could've replaced it or take it down myself. — Danilo 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
And honestly i don't see this question as a duplicate. I did edit this question to make my question clearer. I know what i can do to help my case, but i don't know if that course of action ever worked. — Danilo 32 secs ago
 
11:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
Awesome, no mod to help me out, and this question is closed an 2 votes to be deleted. It seems no one recovered from asking ban. — Danilo 59 secs ago
 
11:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danilo
That would be much appreciated. — Danilo 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
@danilo I can post an answer that tells you how to fix the questions Samuel listed. It’ll be a few hours though. If this question gets deleted in the meantime I’ll undelete it and reopen to help you out. — George Stocker ♦ 1 min ago
 

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