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12:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The first sentence is close to incomprehensible (perhaps partly due to missing punctuation). Can you rephrase? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lightness Races with Monica
Thanks for adding this Geoff - it does indeed make a world of sense. đź‘Ť — Lightness Races with Monica 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
Kindly define "very extreme" — desertnaut 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
@desertnaut Death threats, repeatedly posting extreme abuse/bigotry, chronic suspension evader, and so on. — Rob ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
Oh... OK, I thought we were still talking about plagiarism. In the meanwhile, since I finished writing the post above, I have raised 1 more similar flag here and 2 more at DSSE, yet the user has yet to be banned, even temporarily, here; do you plan to just "warn" him? — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
With all due respect, I think you are kidding me... :( — desertnaut 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
@desertnaut Your original flags were handled by another moderator, and yes, the process written above was followed. I handled your most recent flag - but as their post happened in the past, it wouldn't make sense to escalate further now. If they continue to post plagiarism, please flag again, and we'll escalate as necessary — Rob ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mackycheese21
+1 freehand circles :) — mackycheese21 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
As written above, we've found users are more receptive to feedback from warnings than a suspension. We're not in the business of punishing users, we're in the business of cleaning up messes and guiding people to become more productive members of the community. If they continue after being explicitly warned, that's when we need to take further steps. If they don't, well then, I'd call that a success — Rob ♦ 1 min ago
 
12:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
None of us is in the business of punishing people, but certainly at least one of us (that would be me, of course) seems, at the end of the day, to have done something very wrong. I honestly hope you are right, but if I start getting retaliation downvotes, I will kindly ping you here, hoping that you will not claim that it is "another story" or "that's life at SO"... — desertnaut 15 secs ago
 
 
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2:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by manveti
Yeah, really don't like having that question put in my mouth. "Possible duplicate" says "look here if you want help". "Does this help you?" says "yes please, dear person who answered 'it doesn't' less than two minutes after I suggested the dupe and therefore clearly didn't read it, continue to ping me in comments to beg me to do your debugging for you". — manveti 41 secs ago
 
2:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
@desertnaut: Even if we did suspend the user here, that's not going to stop them from seeing and stealing content from here. A network suspension isn't going to help much either, unless the staff decide not to welcome them to even read the network anymore. But that's up to their discretion. The most we can do is escalate. — BoltClock ♦ 12 secs ago
 
 
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4:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by robsiemb
Thank you for the quick answer, and I appreciate the detailed response. No problem about the mistake, I've come to appreciate that at the scale of SO, mistakes will happen with the best of intentions. I'll admit, moderation even at the 2k level takes a surprising amount of effort, I can only imagine what doing several hundred flag reviews on top of all your real life must be like. Good luck with the mud :( — robsiemb 1 min ago
 
5:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@BoltClock not sure what your point is exactly in this hypothetical extreme scenario; steal content why? To post it to Quora? It is apparent from the pattern (because that's what it is, a pattern, not a single unfortunate case) that the motive has been the SE rep system; take this out, and there is no more reason to steal anything... Beyond my initial question for permanent removal, I certainly understand the escalation, but... a warning? — desertnaut 1 min ago
 
5:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@BoltClock sorry, I lost you; the other site?? — desertnaut 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
@desertnaut: My point is we can't do anything on our (stackoverflow.com's) end but ask them to knock it off. Suspending might send a little bit of a sterner message, but it's only actually going to enforce anything when issued on the other site, not here. — BoltClock ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@BoltClock As strange as it may sounds, what strikes me as most outrageous here is not the plagiarism itself. Plagiarism I can buy; but plagiarizing an answer and not even bothering to leave an upvote (which costs nothing)? This I cannot buy, honestly; IMO, it shows someone who doesn't have the slightest clue as to what SO is about. Anyway, you are certainly more experienced than me in handling such situations, so let's just hope you are right... — desertnaut 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@BoltClock Welcome!!! It's really good to have you here!! :) — desertnaut 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
@desertnaut: Oh, damn it. So the plagiarism is occurring on both sites. Then I don't understand why each site is handling this inconsistently. — BoltClock ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
Both sites - both ways... — desertnaut 1 min ago
 
6:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mat
Your answer is just a piece of code with no explanation as to why it solves the problem (assuming it does - I don't know C#). That's not all that useful. Looks like a "do this thing and the compiler shuts up"-type of answer rather than "here's what you can do and why you should do it like this". — Mat 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
Impossible to know why a particular person voted the way they did. But in my opinion, generics aren't the right approach to solve the question as asked. Also, you didn't explain why their code doesn't work. Not sure if I'd downvote for those reasons, but well, perhaps someone else did think it was worth downvoting for. — Rob ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dx_over_dt
@Mat Gotchya, thanks. Is that deserving of downvotes? — dx_over_dt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dx_over_dt
@Rob interesting. Why would generics be the wrong approach here if the person wanted a list? — dx_over_dt 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
@dx_over_dt To me, it's not that they want a list - it's that they currently have a list as their attempt. They want to iterate a collection and return a single item. That seems very suited to using IEnumerable<T> rather than a List<T>. The signature indicates that the method won't mutate the collection, and it'll also work on any other type implementing IEnumerable<T>, not just List<T>. Anyway, that's my subjective opinion on it. Others may disagree — Rob ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V.7
For me eveything seems right except font color and duplicates in badges area: i.imgur.com/QrTMcfX.png It might that someone edits this part of header on the air. — V.7 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tukan
Ah, so the rabbit hole is deeper. It would be nice if I could blacklist such a user so I would not see his questions anymore. — tukan 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shaido
@V.7: Note the duplicated reputation and the text additional texts "xx gold/silver/bronze badges". These are normally not present. — Shaido 1 min ago
 
7:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
repro-ed on Chrome 78, Win10 — rene 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I strongly oppose walking through flowerbeds ... — rene 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
We don't actually have any flowers. They all turned blurry, so the groundskeepers replaced them with shrubs. @rene — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Note that problem casting List<Derived> to List<Base> discussed plenty of times on the site already... — Alexei Levenkov 59 secs ago
 
 
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8:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
(Sorry, but I have to say it) Good boy! You did what he asked... Again, main problem here is that you don't know which part of the homework OP does not understand. You can only wild guess from his code mess. And all you did was wall of code and no explanation. It is hard to expect that any student on same skill level as OP will be capable of analyzing that code and learning from it in meaningful way. If you had walk through explaining the algorithm and every line of code then your answer would teach something and it could be helpful to others besides OP (now it is hardly useful to OP too) — Dalija Prasnikar 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
We can't tell, nobody can. It depends. Also, this is off-topic here on Meta (and on main) and in general personal advice questions won't fly anywhere across the SE network. Try chat or a traditional forum. I hear reddit and Quora are pretty popular. — rene 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Different sites, different moderators. For all we know the mods on DataScience had warned that user before and/or had other additional reasons to suspend. Don’t assume you know the full picture here. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Selaron
@MartijnPieters Thanks for your replay, please see my update of the question. — Selaron 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neil Lunn
@YaakovEllis Granted the 50% remark is indeed there. The intent however I am not completely assured of. If you mean ...with the goal of making them more friendly and results-driven." Then I would believe the commentary has indeed shown that those two goals seem to be largely in conflict. To be frank, I am personally concerned that SE in general is spending too much time on being welcoming to new users, when the main body of new users are in fact not new at all, and are indeed abusers of the system and the main cause of many problems. The community can spot "new users" and be welcoming. — Neil Lunn 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@MartijnPieters forget DSSE, the real question here is: what exactly counts as first offence? It is the first time one does something wrong, or just the first time one gets caught, despite the fact that one may have multiple violations? Common sense suggests the former, however here you have handled the situation according to the latter... — desertnaut 42 secs ago
 
9:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@MartijnPieters and if I have been warned here and then get caught plagiarizing in, say, Math SE, is it really my first time? How far MathSE is from SO, really? — desertnaut 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@desertnaut There is no black and white answer here, and is moderators have leeway to take different actions in different situations. However, other sites have their own moderators and actions on another site are under the “jurisdiction” of other moderators. For me, everything before us mods finding problematic behaviour we want to see corrected is a first offence; just because the user has plagiarised multiple posts doesn’t change that. That doesn’t mean I won’t hand out a suspension just because it’s a first offence. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Qwerty
I just had to spend 15 minutes searching and reading to find out whether my votes will be applied once I reach 125 score. The wording is so wrong and the link to KB is useless. What an outrage! — Qwerty 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@desertnaut and moderators do often share details of user behaviour with other site moderators, if we see a pattern repeated on another site. However, as other mods have said: our primary goal is to keep our sites clean, not to hand out punishments. I completely agree that behaviour like this is pretty appalling, but you have to accept how we handle this. We don’t give out suspensions just because you feel the behaviour is heinous and deserves stronger punishment. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@MartijnPieters Sorry Martijn, I don't get what you mean by "For me, everything before us mods finding problematic behaviour we want to see corrected is a first offence" (everything?); and we are discussing here, right? The issue arguably is not my feelings... — desertnaut 1 min ago
 
10:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zev Spitz
Your position is opinion-based. This answer contains a factually incorrect statement. The Excel object model is independent of the Excel application host -- it can be referenced from Word, Access, or any other VBA host, just like any other COM library; and can be consumed from other COM hosts, such as WSH and classic ASP. The object model is also independent of the VBA language -- any COM-supporting language, such as Python, C#, and Java can also make use of the Worksheet, Application and Excel.Range objects). — Zev Spitz 1 min ago
 
11:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
What I mean is: if we have caught a user plagiarising, their total body of plagiarised posts “up to the point we contact them” is one offence. They may or may not have known that what they were doing was wrong. I personally have still suspended users on first offence if I find exceptionally large numbers of plagiarism, or that our community has been telling them in comments that it’s bad and they then tried to obfuscate their copies, or have been using sock puppets, etc. But multiple plagiarised posts doesn’t count as multiple offences. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Personally, I only send a warning once I find at least a second instance of plagiarism. Copying a single post is easily cleaned up. The moment I find two, and so know there is a pattern, we know we have a problem that needs correcting for. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matze
@TylerH: Good post, though I think that getting upvotes for even clearly stated and well formatted questions is rather seldom. — Matze 1 min ago
 
11:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@MartijnPieters appreciate your thoughts and opinion. Still waiting for your kind clarification if I have to accept how you are handling this and stop discussing it, as it admittedly sounds very strange (and quite unexpected) in a Meta discussion... — desertnaut 50 secs ago
 
12:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter
I don't want to disappoint you, but even suspending won't help much if staff will helpfully merge all accounts created to circumvent the suspension into and the user can just continue using the network as if nothing happened meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334398/…samcarter 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@samcarter thanks; but it's not a matter of me being disappointed or not, of course — desertnaut 54 secs ago
 
12:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@desertnaut: I just have the feeling you passionately want a certain outcome from all this. I'm not telling you not to discuss this, just trying to manage expectations. Know that we are aware of the user and their antics, and that we are handling it. Also, we can't go into details on individual cases. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
1:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Quite surprised (again and again) that such basic question still attracts upvotes. Do SO-Members now try to disguise sand as pearls, because there are no normal pearls anymore? — Tom 1 min ago
 
1:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Perhaps update your answer with some of the information from comments (e.g. elaboration of "very extreme")? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@desertnaut: It is rampant on Quora. Yesterday I flagged 3 answers on Quora; each contained wholesale copies of (3 different) blog posts. — Peter Mortensen 52 secs ago
 
1:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Tom: It is what is rewarded, answering questions. Finding duplicates is not (and often on the contrary). The reputation points system is optimised for very quick answers, not building a repository of (non-redundant) knowledge. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Tom: It is what is rewarded, answering questions. Finding duplicates is not (and often on the contrary). The reputation points system is optimised for very quick answers, not building a repository of (non-redundant) knowledge. We are at 18,503,131 questions. — Peter Mortensen 54 secs ago
 
2:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@PeterMortensen Well, the whole system isn't actually designed to provide a repository of knowledge and avoid redundancy when possible. This would require that we edit questions into canonical posts by removing "fluff" and unneeded background information and then close other questions appropriately to get sign posts. That's done in some cases, but it is rare. As you say, it is more rewarding (at least for the own greed/"karma"/ego) to answer posts instead of closing them. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@Tom Someone relatively new to the site without a lot of time spent in any particular tag, won't know if there are duplicates. Or perhaps even realize what to do in the case of a duplicate. People who have that knowledge and experience are logically those that should be voting to close as duplicates... — Cindy Meister 43 secs ago
 
2:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
... the answer is in the title of your meta post, it went down for maintenance. — Gimby 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aloisdg says Reinstate Monica
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@MartijnPieters or it might just be that your feeling is wrong, and "passionate" is the completely wrong word here. Thank you for trying to manage (i.e. lower) my expectations, but it's funny how you have seemingly managed to get me in the defensive, as if I am the wrongdoer in this whole story; for spending my precious time in order to expose this nasty situation in two SE sites, you are very welcome... — desertnaut 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
as the answers could be useful to another user encountering the same error message - that's the key. Consider putting upvoting on the list of things you may do. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
You are guided. You are provided links to helpful material that helps you understand what it is we are looking for, and close reasons that explain, at least in general terms, what's wrong with your existing questions. — fbueckert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
When you write "What is the actual reason behind this error" although you know the official reason, then you assume SO is lying to you and their other members. Have you any reason to think they are lying to you? — Tom 1 min ago
 
2:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pynchia
There is no way to edit my profile description anywhere. It used to be easy. Now I am hostage to the SO community — Pynchia 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pynchia
No, there is no edit anywhere. It used to be easy. Now I am hostage to the SO community — Pynchia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V.7
By your leave, I'd like to add two cents and tell that had same issue and the only way sometimes is just to wait for another allowed question which, hopefully, might help others, too. — V.7 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Neely
Have you reviewed/cleaned up all the questions in the tag prior to posting this request, or is a cleanup still needed? <200 questions isn't bad at least if it still needs done. — Dan Neely 26 secs ago
 
3:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@desertnaut: sorry if I made you feel you were in the wrong, that was not my intention. I can't express, ever, how thankful I really am for you, and our community as a whole, in helping us find cases of plagiarism. Plagiarism clean-ups are largely manual affairs, so I'm always extremely grateful for people helping us find every single individual case of copying! — Martijn Pieters ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TiiJ7
Those elements are meant to be used by screen readers (hence the "sr" in the class). They are actually present on all pages, so it looks like they simply forgot to include the needed CSS to hide them. But they are indeed the cause. — TiiJ7 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@PeterMortensen: I don't know if Quora tracks flag rankings for accounts, but if they do, I surely must have a huge ranking value there. I regularly handle plagiarism here on SO and then find newer copies over on Quora, which I flag every time. Granted, they also have handled my flags diligently, with the post disappearing within minutes, often! — Martijn Pieters ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nico Schl&#246;mer
I've ploughed through it now. About 75 left. — Nico Schlömer 19 secs ago
 
4:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Just because it's Meta doesn't mean it's suddenly OK to post images of code. — Cody Gray ♦ 11 secs ago
 
4:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zev Spitz
RE Who comprises that audience? My bet is: business types, not programmers. Execs. Accountants. MBAs. Not programmers. From the SO tour: "Stack Overflow is a question and answer site for professional and enthusiast programmers." The target audience of any tag is inevitably a subset of the broader SO audience. — Zev Spitz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Neely
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Raise a flag. there's literally nothing us regular users can do about it. — Kevin B 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
I can’t seem to stop myself from getting banned, although I think I’m on a slightly different IP now. — Laurel 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@desertnaut then your job is done. move on — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
What if this user was plagiarizing content here to another, entirely separate site? Say, like Quora? What recourse do we have? Treat other sites the same way, even if they're in-network. Plagiarization is a problem for the target site; even if we were to suspend the user here, that wouldn't solve the problem. You can't stop someone from reading the site, after all. DS.SE can bring the hammer down, and prevent them from posting more plagiarized content there. And vice versa, when they do so here. — fbueckert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@KevinB that's exactly what I did, and I was practically told that I shouldn't have — desertnaut 1 min ago
 
4:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
Anything is possible given enough time, money and donuts. — Robert Harvey 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
Use the RSS feed plus IFTTT? — Dan Bron 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
@DanBron I did not understand very well. I use @ rss2tg_bot for the RSS feed. I searched for StackOverflow on IFTTT but it has nothing related, no device that joins the two services. — Frederico Mattos 32 secs ago
 
5:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V.7
Goes 2019 and nearly 2020, no chat. Please, make a beginning 2020(SOSO) a year of chat of StackOverflow application's chat, preferably, using material or flat design! — V.7 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bart
I believe development on the app halted completely. — Bart 1 min ago
 
5:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
There is no planet where this question is a duplicate of the previous one... :( — desertnaut 35 secs ago
 
6:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"flag declined doesn't mean that you did anything wrong"???? How is one is expected to learn what to flag and what not to flag then? Ask about every flag on meta? Does it also imply that "flag accepted doesn't mean that you did everything right"? — Alexei Levenkov 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You have to read the decline message; you can't just look at the state. Declined might just mean, "the flag is valid, but a moderator chose not to take any action". It's like a downvote: it's a signal you may have done something wrong, but doesn't necessarily mean you need to modify your post/behavior. — Cody Gray ♦ 52 secs ago
 
7:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I guess asking you to move to a supported country is out of order? ;) — rene 1 min ago
 
7:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
Thank you Cody, although I confess I cannot understand your tone; I don't want you (or anyone else, for that matter) to do anything - I just posted a very simple and clear question ("What am I missing? and what should I do in a similar situation in the future?). You have certainly answered them both, but I cannot formally accept your answer, as you sound like yelling at and attacking me, on the grounds of your hypothesis of "what it sounds like I want you to do", and I regret to say that this is neither accepted nor appreciated, much less from a moderator with your history... — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
And if indeed "The only thing you have done wrong is expecting for moderators to take prescribed action" holds (no "sounds like" here), I am happy because it doesn't seem I have done anything wrong, since I didn't hold any such expectations - as I said, it was a question seeking guidance... — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
At the top of the page alternative sources are listed, like overcast or soundcloud do those work for you? — rene 1 min ago
 
7:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sth
@desertnaut FWIW you write in quite aggressive tone yourself, with bold words that can read like yelling and attacking (And to me it definitely sounds like that in your other question). I'm surprised that you take offense at the tone of this answer when your own posts sound much harsher, at least to me. — sth 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@sth duly noted; bold is a necessary evil (somehow we need to give emphasis sometimes), and my issue here has absolutely nothing to do with the bold parts of the answer. Appreciate the feedback though — desertnaut 1 min ago
 
8:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You aren’t the first person to accuse me of having an accusatory tone, and you surely won’t be the last. I confess I don’t really understand why, and I can assure you that no offense or attack was intended. It is entirely possible that I’ve misread your intentions or goals. I’m not good at reading minds. But you’ve been very insistent here, both in comments associated with the previous question, and in posting a follow-up. If you have some additional motivations you’d like me to appreciate, feel free to let me know. I added the last paragraph to clarify that we always appreciate it... — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
...when users raise flags in good faith to let us know of things they come across that they find concerning. If you don’t pay any attention to any of this, and you keep raising flags on plagiarism, I assure you that no one will be angry with you for doing your part to keep the site clean. As a final note, I’m not sure what you meant by, “a moderator with your history.” What history is that? A history of being a call-it-like-I-see-it, persistent, pain in the backside? Yeah, that’s me. It cuts both ways. :-) @desert — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
This post could benefit from covering the fact that moderators do have a unique conduit to employees (who are in a position to reach out to Medium as a license enforcer with standing) and whether that's an appropriate avenue for passing such notifications up the chain. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Wow, what a horrible design decision — TylerH 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Haney I think a better option would be a message saying it's disabled due to low score but with a button to run it anyway. Actually malicious posts should get deleted by flags before too long (average is probably 10 minutes or so). This doesn't put control of snippet running in the hands of users so much as the mob, writ large. — TylerH 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
What in the world is Telegram, and why would we want to integrate it with Stack Overflow? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Marked this as a duplicate of your previous question on the subject. If someone wants to develop such a bot, they can do so and post about it in an answer to that question. If you want to begin developing a bot and open-source it to the community, then you can self-answer that original question with the necessary information. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
@CodyGray Telegram is one of today's greatest messengers, where many companies and programmers have accounts, discussion groups, and idea-sharing channels. Whatsapp has no bot functionality, Telegram has, in addition to e-mail, it would be a nice way for people to be able to receive notifications and to know more about their notifications. — Frederico Mattos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Worth noting, however, that Stack Overflow is a licensee, not the licensor, @Tyler. They can always make a request of a third party, but I’m not sure they’d have any more standing than you or I. The original poster is who’d have the most legal standing, as far as I understand, with the caveat that I’m not a lawyer and wouldn’t admit it if I were. While mods could escalate this to employees, I really don’t think we would, realistically. But that’s a conversation that we can have. Does the community think that the standing policy described here needs to be amended? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Not sure where else you would be looking as you type, other than the screen. The compelling argument is the second one that you made: as I revise the title to fit within the character limit, it’d be nice to be able to do that in the same textbox, without having to round-trip copy-paste into another application. I’m something of an expert on this. Every 3rd comment or so that I leave exceeds the character limit and needs substantial revision to make it fit. :-( — Cody Gray ♦ 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
One of today’s greatest messengers, eh? They should perhaps be paying you commission to market their service. I still don’t understand, though. If it’s a discussion channel, why would you want to route offsite notifications into it? — Cody Gray ♦ 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joe W
One of the greatest messengers that people have not heard of? Sounds no different than what a bot could do in Discord, Slack or any other chat program that supports bots. — Joe W 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
Sorry, I really see him as one of the greatest messengers today, here in Brazil the dispute is totally between Whatsapp and Telegram, so I said he is one of the biggest. Maybe out of here this is not reality. I'm a layman on the subject. I only use it because it meets my needs. About the notifications, I thought that if you received there, it would be a way for the person to know that there are news in questions that she participated, besides the email that is already possible today. — Frederico Mattos 19 secs ago
 
9:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
Answers that tread the same ground are OK. In fact, when you see one of your answers treads the same ground as another answer; see how you can improve your answer? Is it really and truly that there is no possible improvement you can make from your own experience? We have hundreds of kinds of coffee, and hundreds of different coffee shops, and no one ever says, "Gosh, I can't open a coffee shop, someone already did that!" Think about how you can add your unique point of view and add it to your answer. Maybe it's a different way of solving the problem, maybe it's going deeper? — George Stocker 57 secs ago
 
9:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
This is old. Always got rejected and never got community sympathy. Ultimately blew up pretty badly when an ultra-high rep user got suspended for doing this. There is a new angle, the new CC by-SA 4.0 license explicitly gives you the right to disassociate yourself from the post. This way. Getting traction on that however require things to normalize, that still seems pretty far off. — Hans Passant just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
5 per day is not enough when you have 2000+ answers. It forces you to do this task over separate days, rather than getting it all in one hit. It doesn't actually prevent you from doing the task. So, that's just annoying. — wim 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
@PeterMortensen Exactly mate. — Frederico Mattos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
@CodyGray I didn't like the way you handled it, saying I'm getting paid to advertise. Strange to be treated that way just because I thought I had a cool tip to make my life easier and maybe it would help other people too. — Frederico Mattos 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
@GeorgeStocker That's a dumb analogy. The coffee shop will fill up if there is too much demand, and then service will become slow. S.O. is not like that, another answer just covering exact same ground is not adding any value. — wim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
@JoeW Sorry for my bad english, I'm brazilian ... But you said people never heard of Telegram? Are you sure about that? Alright that outside of Brazil may not be so well known, but i think is a bit of exaggeration. 4,164,480 people have already downloaded it from Google Play, it's a little hard to say that it's an unknown messenger. — Frederico Mattos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
@JoeW Sorry for my bad english, I'm brazilian ... But you said people never heard of Telegram? Are you sure about that? Alright that outside of Brazil may not be so well known, but i think is a bit of exaggeration. 4,164,480 times have already downloaded it from Google Play, it's a little hard to say that it's an unknown messenger. — Frederico Mattos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jpmc26
@CodyGray At the keyboard. Not everyone can touch type; looking back and forth is a natural habit if you don't. — jpmc26 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@wim Then just don't delete them. Who knows, maybe they could be useful to someone in the future? — JL2210 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yeah, “batching” your cleanup of older answers is the edge case. I’m sympathetic to that. But on balance I think the rate limits do more harm than good. This is one of the few cases where reputation isn’t a good basis on which to reduce the rate limits. Amount of rep has no correlation to self-vandalism, and, in my experience, more rep tends to increase the odds of someone underestimating the value of their own zero-scored contributions. As Hans says, this is an old debate. He comes down on the side of removing old zero-score answers. I think he purges a bit too heavy-handedly sometimes. — Cody Gray ♦ 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joe W
My comment was in regards to the responses you had in your question about what it was. And while you may think it is a great messaging service having bots to help with it isn't exactly uncommon these days especially with messaging services that have desktop clients. — Joe W 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
Sorry Cody; beginning your answer with "I don't know why you're having such a difficult time swallowing this" (now edited out by @TylerH), before even starting to explain, is "darn sure" not appreciated. Reading words is arguably better and safer than trying to read intentions, goals, or minds, especially if, as you say, you have reasons to believe that you may be not that good at the latter. "Darn sure", nobody asked you why you don't moderate or police the Internet; the last para of your answer would be more than enough in itself to answer the question here. — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frederico Mattos
I understood @JoeW, thanks for explanation... In fact, it would be cool if all bot-messengers had the same service for people to get Stack notifications when they are not online at the site. The idea went to Telegram because that's where I use it, but if everyone else had it, it would be even better. — Frederico Mattos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
We all have our history; to stay consistent with mine, I can no longer sit here, getting intimidated and dismissed beforehand on the basis of some hypothetical motivations that I may or may not have, while having to listen to how much my actions are appreciated (thanks for the edit, BTW). I guess it's a good time to leave SO for good; so goodbye, and thanks for all the fish... — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
That is a major overreaction to having a flag rejected and feeling dismissed by a moderator. I’m sorry that you were offended by my wording. As I said before, it was not intentional. I wrote this answer right after reopening this question, so surely my impressions were colored by the fact that you had seen it fit to ask this as a follow-up. It was quite clear that you were having trouble accepting or understanding Rob’s answer to the previous question. I wasn’t meaning to condemn or insult, just expressing that I must be missing something, given the huge gap. Obviously I respect you. @des — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
The fact that "The detailed status (declined/helpful) of the flags is not my concern here" was clear and explicit in the question itself. As I said, kindly try to read, not guess... :( — desertnaut 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@wim - I have also have over a thousand answers, the amount of times I have deleted an answer, is a handful of times. Perhaps it's not the system that should change? Why are you removing so many of your answers? Even if you have thousands of answers, you could in theory, eventually reach a limit with the system and be unable to submit any answer. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
1) The fact that "The detailed status (declined/helpful) of the flags is not my concern here" was clear and explicit in the question itself; 2) there were also two explicit assumptions, which render your two first bullets irrelevant to the question. 3) the question was not what you should do, it was clearly what should I do. As I said, kindly try to read, not guess or imagine... :( — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
@SecurityHound I literally explained why I'm deleting answers in the first paragraph of the post. Wasn't clear enough..? Today I delete this answer because it's redundant (other user posted same thing, with more explanation), there is no edit necessary to add anything to answer, and the system blocks it for no good reason - this is nothing to do with ragequit, just removing redundancy. — wim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Sorry, that part of my comment was meant as a joke. I was not accusing you of actually being a marketing shill, just amusing myself at your phrasing. — Cody Gray ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
That answer seems to be a perfect example. The code you include is not at all equivalent to the code in 9000's answer. You're using a with statement, you're opening the file in binary format (I assume, based on my knowledge of C's fopen function), you're calling requests.post instead of passing a "POST" string to requests.request, and you're using some of kind of property bag or whatever in the last parameter. Since I don't know Python, I have no idea if your example is preferable to 9000's example. But I do know it's different. @wim — Cody Gray ♦ 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wim
Hmm, I think we have to disagree. Other reasons you mentioned are trivial, is same answer for the fundamental issue to the question (which is: file should be opened in binary mode not text mode). Anyway, I will delete it tomorrow so moot point. — wim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@ZevSpitz If you want to make yourself heard, please post an answer to this question. Otherwise, I would ask that you leave Lynn Crumbling alone, both by avoiding making edits to their answer and by avoiding attempts to engage in a protracted debate via the comments section. Simple disagreement can be expressed by a downvote. — Cody Gray ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony_Henrich
@jpmc26 If you're looking at the keyboard the whole time and never look at the screen, then you won't see the counter either. I want to know who types something and never checks for anything like proper spelling before submitting a form!? — Tony_Henrich 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony_Henrich
@jpmc26 If you're looking at the keyboard the whole time and never look at the screen, then you won't see the counter either. I want to know who types something and never checks for anything like proper spelling before submitting a form? BTW, I look at the keyboard when I type. I would at least notice the last word I typed and notice it got cut off because of a hard stop. — Tony_Henrich 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jo King
Since the language has officially been renamed, and most new questions are now being tagged raku, can this be implemented? I don't have enough rep to propose a synonym — Jo King 5 secs ago
 
11:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony_Henrich
@jpmc26 I said the counter is the best choice. In my opinion, switching to an external app to figure out how many characters some text is, copying from there and pasting back in the webpage is worse in terms of UX than a hard stop. What if the person is on a mobile phone? This is a major hassle to be switching apps on a single screen mobile apps. And imagine if your advice was in the era when there was no copy and paste on iPhones!! — Tony_Henrich 1 min ago
 

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