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1:58 AM
@TylerH I said "sort of". As in it was as close as we have - did I mention we need better tools - cause we need better tools :)
 
 
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6:49 AM
@GeorgeStocker I mean, we own everything that is on the land (the content). Nothing besides time and money stops any of us from taking all the goods and making our own stack overflow, under a different name. So in that sense the relationship between SO and the community is different then on say, reddit.
 
 
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usr
4:18 PM
It's certainly fitting that my comments under this announcement about more censorship were deleted. I had a feeling they would be, although I don't understand what the justification would be. Reposting them here:

It's funny that staff or mods often say "we care about your opinion" but then do not act on it. It's not enough to give us a warm hug and try to make us feel good. Many users want specific changes.

"Snarky comments about how the company won't fix the issue no matter what we say" Well, comments like that are not mere feelings. They are true to an extent. Instead of fixing the reas
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I'm not very experienced with Meta so maybe I don't quite understand the situation. But if comments like those get deleted I certainly see why the community is in arms.
 
5:11 PM
@usr Your comments are more inciting than actually pointing at anything new or productive. I suspect (I didn't delete them) that this is why they were deleted.
Like I said, we know the situation is not great (understatement of the year).
We're trying to be productive and return meta to a place where it's not a cesspool of "you guys are shit" no matter what is being said or discussed.
Because that's where it is right now, and it's nearly impossible to have a discussion, even when we want to.
And I'll repeat myself once more: We know it's primarily the company's fault. We're trying to move forward.
 
 
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8:55 PM
@MadaraUchiha I don't know how much treating the symptom instead of the cause really help going forward, even less when presented as "We have decided that and unless you can write something convincing us its bad we'll do it"
 
i'd rather meta be deleted and/or never visited by staff rather than the rampant censoring the proposed changes will (or are) bringing. What good is feedback if only one side of the argument is allowed?
 
9:25 PM
@KevinB please leave an answer if you have something to add to the discussion :>
 
already done
 
@AndrasDeak that of course doesn't apply to george. :shrug: — Kevin B 57 secs ago
replying here because that's a "dead comment walking": some of us are more equal than others
I wonder why after a 1-year hiatus in meta answers he's suddenly so invested in making things right in the exact way that only the company wants
Perhaps SO is hiring?
 
@AndrasDeak I think that's just personal conviction and not an interested move
 
true, it's not like I typically agree with George in anything
I just get a really bad taste in my mouth due to how some of the mods are handling Madara's discussion
even if they think we're just part of the problem at least they should hold back on their personal vendetta against the Old Ways out of courtesy for Madara
Agreed. I have been deleting comments very sparingly, and only when flagged on this thread (most commonly, obsolete comments leftover from the deletion of others). Until a decision is made, moderators should act the same as they always have. — Madara Uchiha ♦ yesterday
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9:48 PM
@EJoshuaS I can't use chat at the client site right now either; I'm having the sub-optimal experience of using my phone to respond to chat pings. — George Stocker ♦ yesterday
Just saw this one, and the irony is a bit striking...
 
Cc @TinyGiant (I just read back the transcript). It's not Madara you should be angry at.
 
10:55 PM
tbf, my comment deserves to be deleted, not because it was a reply to another comment, but because it's not constructive, maybe even unkind/rude, definitely not intended to cause/promote discussion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It was simply to point out the irony in the fact that comments disputing other comments being deleted simply isn't being equally enforced at the moment. I don't think it should be enforced at all, as that makes it impossible to correct misinformation left in comments, as has been expressed previously.
 

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