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00:39
@Zoe literally anything is bad if not in moderation.
G'Morning
Catching up on sleep during weekends is the best thing since bread..
That's why we need moderators on Stack Overflow ;D /dad jokes
Good morning!
01:18
Morning! o/
01:39
is @Zoe
a girl?
Let's not ask personal questions to candidates ...
Just assume that they're a wolf fox, for now.
02:23
Did you just assume their species, @BhargavRao?!?!?
Nope, they've informed me earlier.
oh, fair enough :D
02:50
@coldspeed It was a source of amusement in SOCVR. Honestly, it's hard to tell from the drawing (the red markings aren't common to wolves)
@coldspeed Well, @JonClements knows, but that's because he can smell them (it's a ninja thing)
oh, thought it was a puppy thing.
He's a chihuahua. He wants you to think he's a puppy
my life has been a lie :(
03:20
I'm going to flag comments that say "I voted for you" that aren't towards me because that's just rude. /joke
03:31
mehhh don't flag comment flag user's bcz that aren't towards you :)
le hype is real
@BhargavRao *sliced bread
Finally someone pointed it out..
10 points to Gryffindor.
Pro-tip: Whenever you're making a controversial statement, add a lot of typos. Users will start correcting them instead of arguing.
Pro-Pro-tip: Whenever you're making a controversial statement - Don't. Step away from the computer.
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:P
@BhargavRao that's about the best bikeshedding diss I read today
The law of triviality occurs a lot in real life..
or is the word "roast", instead of "diss"?
03:38
Either works...
Heh, I like how the results change when you change the number of 'o's in "oh", and search "oooh GIF".
That's the shortcut to find the diss GIF, btw.
lol, there is indeed an observable difference between stages of groups of three "o"s. Such Google.
There were differences between "oooh", "ooooh", and "oooooh" itself ;p
 
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05:26
Mod is allow to vote or they observe only ??????
06:04
@Shree Why would moderators be restricted from voting? They are users too.
06:22
Question to candidates: What are you going to do when someone flag this comment That is the longest code for a rounding function I've ever seen! as NLN? Which currently has 55 upvotes
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@Makyen they are user tooooooooo . T hanks.
06:44
@Zoe @Makyen @Machavity @Jean-FrançoisFabre @coldsp ^
@Shree Thanks
yw
I miss @BaummitAugen ^
ohh yes
I know don't ping rule but ....................
07:12
Nop at all . Weekend fever :)
ohh, must be!
Unfortunately, before any candidate could answer, the comment got deleted..
Hi, I have one issue I would like to raise.
Say it here, or raise that on Meta by asking a question.
SO is very useful and efficient is it comes to solving very technical pin-pointed coding issue.
??????
07:24
same ^ ???
However, it is not the case when it come to dilemas around earlier stages of the project;
(e.g., which algorithm to choose? what is the correct design for that, etc)
SO hasn't proven itself useful for me.
TB for so
Believe me or not, SO has saved your neck many times and will be saving.
too broad
07:28
OK, thx - note.
yw
N also POB
Zoe
Zoe
08:06
@Shree thanks ^^
@Zlytherin assuming that's the complete content (it's gone now), delete it. Comments have a specific purpose on the main site (meta comments are slightly different and the NLN lines are pushes significantly). It doesn't add anything to the post, now or when it was posted.
@carkod I am, yeah.
@BhargavRao I did also mention my pronouns on my profile because I thought it would make a difference where it matters xd (for context: it main-site and meta comments)
@Machavity neither are pink eyes, but artistic freedom and stuff :D
@Zoe 👍✌️🤙
08:27
@EliorMalul Depends
The problem with "which algorithm to choose for X" questions is that they are often voted based on popularity, rather than usefulness.
Zoe
Zoe
^
08:50
@MadaraUchiha @zoe, thx for your answer. What I'm trying to say really, is I see no reason that SO can be a more relevant platform for this type of quandaries. I can't explain why people rather talk about this kind of stuff on reddit, which from my POV - is an inferior platform.
Zoe
Zoe
SO is a Q&A site, you can't compare it to Reddit
It's like comparing apples and oranges: there will be differences, and they are by design
09:30
OK, yeah - I see your point. I still miss the functionality in SO for discussing some more abstract dilemmas which are very much part of my day to day life. I wish that as a community we could make it happen.
@EliorMalul For that we have Chat Rooms
Hello! I'm very frustrated, I cannot post questions, I have been banned even if I edited all my questions (12)
@Alessandro woo, Question Ban is imposed by the system if someone asks many questions which are negatively received
see my questions
And alone editing can't do anything
09:37
so I'll remain banned forever?
No
I've seen your questions, they are fair enough but
I cannot understand this rules
these
It seems you had some questions which were not well received by the community and now they are deleted
You can find them in the recently deleted questions
Deleted Recent Questions
No deleted recent questions
maybe in the past...
then they are deleted by mods
And maybe they are not-so-recent
In that case a mod can provide you the link
If you edit them and receives good amount of votes, then you can get rid of the ban
09:40
How Can I resume my account from banning
And if you remain unsuccessful in editing those questions well, then system will give a chance to ask question after 6 months
And if I continue helping people on stackoverflow?
That doesn't matter much
A lil bit tho
If you asks a well-received question after 6 months, then welcome again to asking otherwise there will be ban for ever
Stackoverflow has too strict rules
It's quite impossible to follow them...
TBH, I was also banned from questioning
But not any longer
09:44
So I'll have to wait?
Ask a mod to get a link to your deleted questions and try to mend them
6 months? :)
Yes 6 months😂
in 6 months the world can even end ...
:(
Ohh yes it can ;)
If you remain unsuccessful in both ways, then there's no way anyone can do anything, because this ban is from the system itself.
09:47
Ok for now detachment, I make a backup of my PC and then I go to do the shopping... thank you :)
You're welcome
thanks :)
Can mods see the current position of voting?
@Zlytherin Nop its totally anonymous voting. No one see that. We only get final result.
09:57
Ohh, Great
Thanks
Bye o/ Gotta Study, Exam's going on
o\
Zoe
Zoe
10:18
@Alessandro Not really. You just need to know them
@Alessandro here are your deleted questions, score <= 0
https://stackoverflow.com/q/52972403
https://stackoverflow.com/q/49698192
https://stackoverflow.com/q/45564229
https://stackoverflow.com/q/39751152
https://stackoverflow.com/q/38805570
https://stackoverflow.com/q/34472211
https://stackoverflow.com/q/29509258
https://stackoverflow.com/q/29459414
https://stackoverflow.com/q/28579008
https://stackoverflow.com/q/28089655
https://stackoverflow.com/q/27838041
https://stackoverflow.com/q/26278555
https://stackoverflow.com/q/26164281
https://stackoverflow.com/q/24241984
10:34
@Zlytherin As has already been answered, mark flag helpful, delete the comment & clean up any others on the post, as such a comment that's up-voted suggests that it's likely there are others.
@Zlytherin (@Alessandro) Saying "forever" is a bit unclear. Users get 1 question every 6 months while question banned (i.e. 2 per year). The way you stated this, it makes it sound like it's 1 chance 6 months from now and never again.
10:53
Is question ban a bit "too much" ? I mean, some people don't give a damn and create another throaway account, again and again. What's the gain for honest users and StackOverflow site?
It forces the compliant to improve.
Otherwise the better of the worse would stay bad
The worst of the worst will get around it and be shot down each time
That's why we have to peer-pressure others not to answer crap
Zoe
Zoe
^
I know of professional askers with years and hundreds of mediocre to crap questions. They should be banned too.
(They never will.)
They will be banned manually
Zoe
Zoe
It also forces a timeout and reduces a constant crap flow.
Also, if there's a high volume, IP-related restrictions are also inferred.
11:07
@BhargavRao nah, we tried :P
But the one I had in mind with 47k rep hasn't posted since 2017 \o/
On a related note, some very high rep users feel entitled for preferential treatment, even though the mistakes they commit would have had dire consequences if they were a new user.
Why do I vote?
Because the buttons are shiny
Many spammers died horrible deaths to bring you the right to vote.
@rene for the glory of plant life, of course
@rene If you vote for me I'll vote for you next year
Zoe
Zoe
11:21
@BhargavRao Because We Like Pushing Buttons:tm:
@AndrasDeak will there be an election next year? I assume the moderator team is now feature-complete. We only fix bugs ...
Zoe
Zoe
@rene nah, we're good for the next 2 million users after this
@rene even if Baum gets elected there'll still be room for herbaceous plants on the team
flora is vastly underrepresented which I find quite distressing
11:38
I'm best when I operate from within a shadow. I planted a tree first ...
are...are you Baum's daddy?
whenever flower want ♦ there be an election
we could just skip the election hassle and give the flower a diamond
Zoe
Zoe
@AndrasDeak Or we could give the flower some H2O and CO2 and hope it grows some more first. :p
all you want is sugar
Zoe
Zoe
11:46
Nah, I want strawberries and ice cream
So...sugar and fat ;)
Zoe
Zoe
it's technically C12H22O11 though :*
Who do I vote ?
Your sock-puppet?
Own vote dont help to win :P
11:59
@Shree not with that attitude
@Makyen Ahh, I didn't know that we get chance every 6 month. I thought only once!
@rene which one ?
@Jean-FrançoisFabre If you become mod and find someone doing that, then no one will raise voice if you delete the new account and add a suspension to the main account. ;)
> Is question ban a bit "too much" ? I mean, some people don't give a damn and create another throaway account, again and again. What's the gain for honest users and StackOverflow site?
Sock voting is only bad if your main votes too
@AndrasDeak ?????
12:12
@Zlytherin ah, you mean that
@Shree it was a joke ;) "anything can happen if you try hard enough" and all that
We don't suspend users on the first mistake, for ban evasion generally.
We do it for sock puppetry.
It doesn't make much sense to suspend them.
They're already banned, what will adding a suspension on top of it do?
Ohhh it's ok :)
Ohh, yes true, It doesn't
I'm pretty sure I've seen sock masters not get suspended. Or perhaps they were colleagues/classmates...not sure after all
I sometimes don't suspend sock masters.
But it is very rare.
12:15
You're too nice!
For voting rings, it is a different story.
Lol, a few other mods don't, too.
if Jean-François gets elected at least he can suspend the torrent of C noobs
could use something like that :D
Err
We don't suspend new users because they asked poor questions.
We downvote/close the questions and move on
12:19
So you keep records of mistakes? Like if some user was warned by one mod and then he again commits the same mistake, this time another mod is handling that, so how will he know that is it his first time or not?
We record everything
Including what you did in summer of 69
Ohh Great
@BhargavRao but but we can already do that :(
Summer of 69?
12:20
Moderators don't/can't do anything extra.
@Zlytherin Your first six-string
I beg your pardon?
Ohh
😂
How many of you are having your exam going on? Or am I the only unfortunate guy?
Some of the candidates have their exams going on
12:27
Are you referring to the election, or literally?
Cool then, I am not only one😅
What is this luxury of only having exams now and then? I have stress every day ....
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It's called being less than 25.
Unfortunately, I don't have that luxury..
Well, I do have ;)
12:36
I'm not stressed at all...
What are these "exams" you speak of?
... but just petrified?
10th Board Exams
I don't think rene is stressed for being a Developer 😂
12:38
what I would do about noob questions is the same as before, except that vote to close as too broad would be binding.
Hang on a min, this guy doesn't look like 26 y/o
@Zlytherin thatsthejoke.gif
Ohh xD
he looks much younger
Zoe
Zoe
xD
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Doesn't look like day over 19!
12:46
it's the suit that makes him look older
Nah, the glasses
They make everyone look older
Me too then?
Zoe
Zoe
12:47
Just use lenses instead, it makes everything easier :*
13:02
@Zoe Well, I should have figured it out sooner. Who ever heard of a blond fox? :P
Zoe
Zoe
xd
If you want proof of how stressful developing can be, look at @Jean-FrançoisFabre - he was 17 at the last election (or so people thought)
@BhargavRao I'm the one giving exams :P
still stressful.
You need to find out the best questions to make sure everyone fails
It's no effort here
Zoe
Zoe
13:13
@StephenKennedy aged ~30 years in between elections? :p
harsh! ~10 years
Zoe
Zoe
Isn't he like 47?
@StephenKennedy 😀
@Zoe I changed my picture for a recent one. The other one was from 1993 or 1994.
Zoe
Zoe
ah, 1994
13:18
Ancient times
Zoe
Zoe
And the olympic games were in Lillehammer :*
Zoe
Zoe
xD
SO didn't exist, internet was just useless. When you had a problem you had the choice between figuring out yourself, or the big documentation to read as books
As whats now?
13:19
You can google your question. Or post on SO and get banned. Your choice
Zoe
Zoe
it's fortunately not that harsh :')
I'm exagerating. There's quora too.
@Zoe Grr... He doesn't look a day over 29!
@Zoe This is what 1994 was like
no, this was 1996. 1994 didn't have sound in movies
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy ugh... really glad we've gotten away from that >.>
at least slightly
13:35
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Don't forget the forums and IRC.
IRC is that even still running?
or you're talking 1994?
Zoe
Zoe
IRC is still up, yeah
Yeah, just read that on Arpanet.
13:54
@Zoe Has it been improved?
Zoe
Zoe
/shrug
I'm just thinking that if it was invented before 2001 and hasn't been improved, we probably don't like it ;)
*upgraded
@StephenKennedy feeling better now?
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yes feeling alright atm thanks, and the power is back on
good to hear. Having to eat everything from the freezer is daunting
13:59
Having nothing to eat is somehow worse.
I'm very grateful to the poor sods who were out in the cold and rain last night to fix it. I saw them in the field with their torches looking for the fault. Not my dream job!
Damn, that sounds hard.
Glad that everything is fine now. :)
Thanks, it's nice to know people care :)
We all <3 you!
 
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16:40
@Zlytherin ✋
Heyy @coldspeed what is up?
16:57
Somebody mentioned exams, and I felt I had to raise my hand
Do you have a very tiny violin?
Ohh, which exams?
 
4 hours later…
21:23
I guess we'll never know...
I'm almost done with Biology ... It is your Math exam tomorrow ...
21:57
@Zlytherin Artificial Intelligence
@rene If only it were that simple!
I'm here for the Time management course .. Have a seat and make yourself comfortable as that course won't start for another 8 hours.
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Zoe
Zoe
22:28
@rene 6-8* hours
I didn't want to make that joke
There always is that person
;p
Already Monday here ...
So election ends tomorrow
30 minutes left for me
And I should be in bed ...
4hrs into Monday here ...
But, tomorrow I'm WFH, so can enjoy ;p
twerk from home
22:36
T is silent
 
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23:42
Fun fact, the "stu" in "studying" is also silent

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