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hey idk where to ask this
but theres a read light in my laptop webcam when i see it in the sunlight, and you cant see the light in normal lighting
 
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if that means that the webcam is active, could that mean that i am being hacked? Because I only use the webcam when im video chatting
 
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Not sure, sorry
 
5:43 AM
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Rob
6:33 AM
@Makyen Hope you don't mind the mod abuse superping. You were curious about the project I'm working on.. it's somewhat at MVP stage. The integration with burnaki is still very flakely. However, I've got something working: Current burnination progress. Any feature requests/bugs, please raise here.
Basic gist of it is, a way to track burnination requests. Every hour, the service crawls meta looking for burnination/retag/synonym requests. Once a 'rodgort' admin confirms which tags are relevant, the tag(s) will be tracked every hour. Some useful things off the bat: Finding completed requests with no status-* applied, and burned tags which have re-appeared
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And as a last minute thing, a leader board based on what Burnaki reports
 
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The project isn't necessarily a secret, but would prefer not to announce it too publicly until it's a bit more stable (biggest thing is there's no authentication/permissions yet)
 
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The chat/burnaki is very alpha, still working on issues with it not properly joining rooms
 
@Rob No problem with the ping. Feel free to do so anytime. Thanks. for doing so. It looks great. It should be quite helpful.
 
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6:40 AM
Ah, I forgot the landing page: rodgort.sobotics.org
Anything under Admin/Administration headings won't be available publicly once it officially launches, that'll be restricted to trogdor ROs
 
@Rob Ahh.. more cool stuff :-)
@Rob That sounds reasonable.
 
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Yep. There's a bunch of triage work. '1374 require tag approval' basically means we've seen 1374 requests with tags, but no one has yet marked which tags require tracking. Hoping to bulk import that sort of information from the trogdor worksheet
The 'completed but still have approved tags with questions' is something it's picked up that should be pretty actionable
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10minutes and hasn't died.. that's a good sign
 
@Rob Yeah, for at least a significant number of them the Trogdor worksheet should have good information, but the "Tags OK" column should be checked to verify that it says "Yes".
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@Rob Yeah, that looks like a list of potential blacklist candidates.
 
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6:54 AM
Ideally, that's what it can work towards. We'd at least have evidence of the tag continually re-appearing
The trogdor sheet might be a bit tricky to import, but I'll have a look at that once most of the system is stable. It works for the most part, albeit ugly. The chat stuff needs to be re-written, but other than that..
It's mostly quality of life stuff
But yeah, since you're pretty active in SOCVR and burns, I'd appreciate any feedback you've got
Had to somewhat rush out the burnaki integration, as BR is too quick for me with the latest burn ;)
 
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@Rob Sure, I'm happy to provide feedback. It's looks really good.
@Rob Yeah, that happened quite a bit faster than I expected, but I was also distracted by some real life stuff, so I'd kind-of chalked my impression up to me not being focused.
 
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Well, now that the king of burns is back, things might move a bit more quickly ;)
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7:10 AM
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True. The impression of happening rapidly was probably increased by just coming off the huge and long lasting burn. That was significantly more than long enough such that it was easy to fall into a pattern of activity.
 
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Yeah, that was mostly my fault, got kinda put onto that burn since other mods were on vacation. It seemed to be going steady, then I got busy at work when it died down
 
7:28 AM
Nah, it was good. It was only lagging for a few days at the end. That appeared to be significantly contributed to by some people getting busy in real life. I expect there were still a large number of questions that could have been closed. OTOH, people were starting to get a bit tired of it.
 
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Yep, that's true... while there are still questions that could possibly have been addressed, it's (at least in my opinion) good to keep the community engaged rather than sticking to the same tag for too long. Anyways, we've got a nice and small tag to focus on now :)
And maybe it'll drive engagement having a 'leaderboard', but I'll be keeping a close eye on it.. I don't want people to be closing/deleting questions just to be on top
Which is part of why I haven't really made any mention of it, yet
The other thing it addresses is burns starting before the community agrees. I'm not into naming and shaming, but it'd be good to have some insight there. Still working through the details of how/what is publicly shared
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@Rob Yeah, it can be a difficult balancing act between gamifying something so that people are more interested without making it such that people step outside the bounds of what's acceptable in order to "win". Normally, it's something that needs to be tweaked as you see what's happening.
 
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I guess.. there's some accountability if I personally make that information easily available, whether or not it's already public or not
And I don't want to release a tool that makes it easy to focus on a user who's (in all good intentions), starting a burn prematurely
So, it may turn out that I only show actions made after a burn starts, unless they're part of a select group (likely to be trogdor ROs)
 
@Rob My gut feeling on that is that A) it's really good to get that information. B) it would be reasonable to restrict the information significantly, perhaps to just moderators, but it shouldn't be made publicly available on a large scale. It would probably be OK to have it available to the same group that you are considering admins. Those people should know that it's really up to moderators to handle. They should know that public shaming is not the way to handle it.
 
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7:40 AM
Yep, my thoughts exactly
 
Yeah, I was writing that, and only after sending it did I read your most recent messages. :-)
 
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8:41 AM
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@Bob Please just work..
 
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9:44 AM
Oh, that's good news
 
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