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7:35 AM
morning
I have a question about SMTPs, anyone familiar with that?
From what I understand it's SMTP over TSL, so it should be secure enough. However. Is there anyway for me to know if a mail is sent over SMTPS or over standard SMTP?
 
8:03 AM
ciao Markus, I think you should check if security is enabled in your mail client, I remember Thunderbird has such a configuration box.
Nevertheless, I could be totally wrong as usual
I don't think it's something "set" by mail provider
 
9:01 AM
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Q: How to clean up instances created by SimpleInjector during verification?

BevanAs a part of creating my SimpleInjector container, I've followed recommended practices and called container.Verify() to check that my type registrations make sense. This works well and has caught a number of errors that I've made - but it also creates debris that lingers around afterwards that I...

 
9:42 AM
@Alex omg i hope not :D
@LynnCrumbling hello hello! been too long sir! i was thinking about pinging your other messengers :D
 
@grandangelo Apparently you could find it in the headers of the mail.
Ok. next question. It's an Azure question!! so at least we are getting closer to microsoft, and wpf (still not quite there though)...
So I have a VM on an Azure sub. Now I want to connect that VM to the internet (done), and set a domain (done) and last but not least activate SSL (not done!). So I'm thinking about creating a App Service Certificate in Azure. And try to use it from my VM. Does that sound like a possible solution?
 
10:02 AM
@Markus thanks for teaching something new :-)
 
10:52 AM
@Maverik :)
 
 
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1:16 PM
Reading the message from SO CEO: stackoverflow.blog/2020/01/21/…
...We have not evolved the existing channels of engagement for power users in our community, like Meta, or articulated how we intended to make improvements going forward. This has caused friction as our user base and business have rapidly grown. We acknowledge these issues, apologize for our mistakes, and have plans for improving in the future.
Ya think?!
They need to address the mod exodus. PR won't fix that
Maybe the mod council will help. But the damage is done
 
2:06 PM
@Alex Yes - SE is trying to put out the dumpster fire they set - not sure that they'll succeed, tbh
 
Sad, really
I love SE (maybe the old SE). Don't like disunity, as it will cause the downfall of SE
 
2:27 PM
Agreed - I've pretty much given up on SE entirely now
used to spend a ton of time on it - now, very rarely ever login and answer
will occasionally to help out F# folks, or chat, but otherwise - it's a trash heap
 
2:41 PM
Unity is the key to organizational success. Nothing wrong w/ differing opinions but when divisions this severe occur, the org needs to change its ways and gain more consensus from all involved.
Agreed. Wondering where we can go in the future
 
3:01 PM
Same as Reed over here - given up on SO/SE. I care about it as much as i care about geenral web search
and the only thing that ties me here now is this channel and all the lovely folks in it
 
:)
Yeah, the room's description is true
"A friendly room...."
 
i knew it was all downhill from the day they chose to police "be nice" shit
they had overstepped their bounds and we should have let them know it enmasse in that moment
because they had implied we weren't already nice and they had to actually bring in actual policing to enforce it
 
You can't police that stuff
It's subjective
SO had a tendency at times to be harsh on newcomers but there were ways to handle that w/out killing the site like this
Ask the community, especially the mods, the way forward before making unilateral decisions
The mods and others own this site as much as the company behind it
ExpertsExchange was a paid site (still is) that provided answers. It's mostly dead now
Wonder if SE will go that way
 
 
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5:36 PM
i think regardless of them doing or not, they're half dead and the damage is extensive.. they lost the founding experts and whatever is going to come around isn't going to stick around.. they have no reason to be invested enough in "community" to create real value like the original members
 
6:17 PM
Agree
May be it was always going to end this way for SE; just a matter of time
RIP SE
Long live the chat :)
 
Long live the chat!
 
6:42 PM
Sounds like The Mandalorian... "This is the way." :)
 
7:03 PM
How can the TV show be so good and this last movie so bad?
(just my opinion)
 
Other than the implied relativism... I thought TROS was quite good
 
Okay. That's interesting. We'll have to start a different WPF chat for the fans of TROS :)
Them's fightin' words!
 
Begun, the clone-movie wars have ;)
 
Been watching Red Letter Media's TROS review. Funny and brutal. Don't watch if you're a fan
NSFW also
Lots of profanity
 
Is that the Movie Sins series? Cuz that guy is hilarious
 
7:12 PM
Similar, those are Cinema Sins and I love those. There's a counter that shows all the sins. And he also deducts from them for good things
 
yeah that one
can't stop laughing during those
 
If you get a chance, watch and let me know what you think
 
7:29 PM
@Alex I worry/expect that the chat won't stick around forever - doesn't seem aligned with new management
 
Dang
Would we move to Discord or Slack?
Something to ponder
 
7:46 PM
who knows - may leave it - probably doesn't cost them much, but they don't emphasize it anywhere, and they're definitely not invested in it at this point
 
8:13 PM
Yep
 

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