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user2620028
2:00 AM
@KendallFrey ill make sure the helivac knows your blood type before you start <3
 
:S
I think I'm O-, I'd be fucked
 
@KendallFrey oh wow
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey especially since there is no helivac, that was just a joke
 
well this is just getting better and better
next you're gonna say I'm going on the nurburgring
 
so joseph smith's bride was 14 while he was 37
definitely off to a good start
yeah or nah should I keep williams.cam
 
2:06 AM
hmm william scam.. nice try
 
hahaha I beginning to think have a bunch of domains extensions is a bad idea
I don't even know a 1/3 of them
 
I think we should have more tlds
let anyone register them and not just the rich
 
</sarcasm>
 
I'd love to own r.lemon
they'd also need to allow single letter domain names again
sigh
 
Why don't they just do single letter domain extenions
 
2:08 AM
Just forget about the idea of a TLD
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey dude that would be so much fun
 
@William it increases the finite amount of domains that can exist
 
@HatterisMad so when are you getting married?
 
@HatterisMad not in a sprint car
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey dude the turns are tight enough that the sprint car would roll almost immediately
 
2:09 AM
I can't remember the reason to stop allowing single letter domains. but I remember thinking it was stupid
 
you used to be able to tell if something is a domain now it is completely impossible
 
user2620028
@ShrekOverflow i think we are going to be applying for the visa soon
 
@HatterisMad that wasn't a problem on iRacing
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey i don't doubt that... the physics are so fucked in that game
 
lol really?
 
user2620028
2:11 AM
at least with the sprint car yeah lol
 
Well I guess putting a car designed for one kind of surface one another surface will fuck with the physics engine
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey the physics with it on dirt are fucked too though
 
They did a pretty good job with the RX though
@HatterisMad remind me again, in what area?
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey traction, acceleration, power curves of the engines, the downforce of the cars with the wings and without, the degradation of the tracks are way off, the cars cornering abilities are way different in real life than what iracing has implemented, you have a clutch in iracing, field of view in the car is double what is possible irl
 
user2620028
2:15 AM
@KendallFrey and since the traction, downforce, and acceleration physics are so far off the car doesn't handle anywhere near what a real life dirt racecar does, let alone a sprintcar
 
how are they off?
too much traction? too little? downforce? acceleration?
 
hatter what is the coolest car mod you have done
 
user2620028
too much traction at low speeds, not enough side bite at higher speeds with the wing on, too much side bite at high speeds with the wing off, downforce is a factor in the previous comment, acceleration is way lowered in iracing compared to real
 
user2620028
@William maybe my automatic lights, cause i am lazy and forgetful lol
 
@HatterisMad Have you tried it, or how do you know these things?
 
user2620028
2:18 AM
@kendall realistically, when you are driving a sprintcar on a smaller track, you are driving the thing on one to two wheels if the car is hooked up well
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey just by watching other people driving them i can tell they look nothing like what they do in real life
 
user2620028
the cars in iracing handle like they are driving on pavement
 
user2620028
@kendall does the iracing car spin left hard when you hit the brakes?
 
usually
some tracks I use the brakes to turn, some tracks I lift off the throttle
 
user2620028
like if you tap the brake then your tail tank is facing the outer wall and your nose is facing the infield?
 
2:21 AM
I say that as if I've tried anything but the two free dirt tracks
 
user2620028
and the tracks you have driven are larger tracks right?
 
@HatterisMad I mean you don't end up going backwards unless you do more than a tap
@HatterisMad define larger
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey 3/8 mile or larger
 
user2620028
i would call 1/4 and 1/8 miles as short tracks
 
one of them is 3/8, don't remember what the other is
haven't driven anything absurdly big or absurdly small
 
user2620028
2:24 AM
3/8 mile are the largest track i would consider it still takes a large amount of skill to drive
 
loktar guihacker.com is down
 
again?
wth, I just fixed it like last week
 
user2620028
1/2 mile and mile are so large that it changes the driving style by so much
 
not a big deal just wanted to see it full screen
 
hmm up for me
lol like my link is any different than yours I guess
 
but yeah it just took a second because it's on azure, the smallest instance type so takes a min to spin up if someone hasn't used it for a bit
 
click that one which is the same on the github page
 
wth.. your link did not work..
bah it was my change prob, needs the www
 
www.
yeah to be fair I should have tried it with www. should have known better
 
I put on this when I wanna pretend to work
 
user2620028
2:31 AM
@kendall you remember me saying i would use the wall as the cushion at my local track? i just found a frame of video from my local track that shows what it looked like after a race youtu.be/17zS0bmpnwA?t=4m18s
 
user2620028
would actually put the right rear tire on the wall for more traction
 
Not sure if anyone replied last time, but anyone here have Mesh WiFi systems?
 
View from the docks 😍
 
maryland or viginia ?
my uncle lives near the water in maryland
 
North Carolina, but really south
 
2:35 AM
wilmington?
I have lived there
still live in NC
 
Actually close, South Port
 
@SterlingArcher I got in a practice ride today
 
funny even though I lived in wilmington for 5 months I only went to the beach once
 
@SterlingArcher That water shader looks at least 5 years old
 
Nick you’ll hav to text me I’m pretty stammered rn
Slammered
 
2:40 AM
you're in jail?
 
@SterlingArcher stay out of the water
 
!!afk drunking
 
user2620028
@kendall look at the car immediately at the time start for this link and tell me that the iracing physics for these cars look like this when the cars enter the turns youtu.be/dmCUN6HZ12o?t=47s
 
@HatterisMad 😃 😃
 
@HatterisMad There's not much there, but the most different thing I notice is how it's leaning backwards
 
user2620028
2:42 AM
@KendallFrey yeah dude, it is supposed to be leaning inwards when entering the turn like that
 
why though
 
user2620028
the whole car will roll violently upon entry
 
that's not how physics is supposed to work
is it the drag on the wing?
or some suspension magic
 
user2620028
you have stagger, so the car is naturally leaning to the left, the track has banking forcing the car to lean left, you have the downforce on the wing that lifts the right side of the car up, and the shocks on the left side of the car get hammered with all of this and compress
 
user2620028
might also have softer shocks on the left than the right depending on the track conditions
 
user2620028
2:44 AM
to enhance this upon entry
 
user2620028
that frame of the video basically shows a perfect entry
 
so basically the car likes to lean left, and when you turn the wing grabs the air and helps it
 
user2620028
if your car isn't set up perfectly then it might wash out and slide all the way up and hit the wall
 
user2620028
or it might bite too hard and pick up the entire left hand side of the car
 
user2620028
and then you are typically on two to one wheel and you have to drive it that way ( this is the most typical scenario tbh )
 
user2620028
2:46 AM
@KendallFrey yeah but the air doesn't do much on a shorter track as you don't get going past 90mph entry into the turn or so
 
user2620028
so its typically all just the banking and stagger in the car and how soft your shocks are
 
still there is nothing else I can imagine that would actually roll it that much
 
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MachavityAs someone who hangs out in chat, this isn't toxic. This is what toxic chat looks like and how SO deals with it. So nobody is ignoring toxic chat. The chain of events here is Someone linked an article about wealthy (and apparently lonely) guys spending a ridiculous sum of money to have women "...

 
user2620028
but that is how the car should look when you grab the brake going into the turn, hitting the brake for a fraction of a second should turn the car from heading straight into the wall, into that
 
the friction on the tires is the main force besides the wing, and that will roll it right
 
user2620028
2:48 AM
@KendallFrey we typically have tie down shocks man, so the left side of the car is getting a lot of weight relieved from it and those shocks are snapping down and the car is falling on them too
 
@rlemon interesting, that's pretty well written
 
yea I thought it was nice
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey don't forget as well that the friction is going to be focused on the right rear tire at this point in the turn and we basically gas the fuck out of it so it never really gains full traction, if it gained full traction in a maneuver like this then you would for sure flip
 
user2620028
it is called spiking the right rear, if you hit the brakes or let off of the gas in fear, even for a split second, then you have bought yourself a free ticket into the grandstands
 
@rlemon so far I've been using this time to lay low and watch letterkenny
 
2:51 AM
leveling a highmountain tauren
 
that's always a good use of time
 
Also, for the JavaScript room specifically, we have a GitHub issue tracker where issues like this can be discussed. See chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/42318633#42318633. I'll bring this up with the maintainers of our bot, as I think it would be useful to add to the message new users get when they join. — Kendall Frey 11 secs ago
 
came acrosst a quality copy
 
@rlemon Shall we add a link to the culture repo in !!welcome?
 
sure, we can
 
2:52 AM
@KendallFrey we should update it first, I think
 
update what?
 
if we're going to discourage things
the readme, prolly?
we could do the page proper, but the readme should be good enough if we link it
 
Yeah, maybe I can work on this tomorrow, if no one else wants to
 
the rules haven't been changed in a long while
 
Put together a PR, we can 👍 / 👎 until we get some consensus, then point the bot at it?
 
2:54 AM
I basically wrote those one day and nothing but spelling and grammar have been edited
 
@ssube a pr to the readme?
 
I encourage more RO's to step in there
 
I wanna make sure we note that space and the sciencey off topic is still good
@KendallFrey yeah
 
!!nudge 900 do some moderation
 
@KendallFrey Nudge #1 registered.
 
2:59 AM
lava car wash I remember going with my mom to the only one in town with rainbow colors
 
@rlemon I was this close to sending you that tweet when i saw it
 
is this a breaking bad referenc
 
:)
 
@William that's freakin sweet. The one I use only does different color foams.
 
3:01 AM
@ssube those are the best tho
you look like you're under carpet underlay
 
yeah, we run to get groceries every weekend, usually have some 🍪 s and a carwash before
watching the fans blow the tiny water drops off is also cool, like watching loose snow blow off my hood
there are a few spots that don't dry/the snow stays
 
Where’s the best place to catch up on all the stuff?
 
define "this"
 
user2620028
@kendall this is a half mile race, look how fast the cars are going on this track compared to iracing cars youtube.com/watch?v=4JhnWAMoF3o
 
user2620028
also fucking rico won it after flipping and started from the tail lol
 
3:06 AM
how is that possible to win it from the tail
does that mean last or just in the bottom half
they almost look lik eflags on top
 
user2620028
well generally means from the back, so that generally means the last few cars, but yeah he started last after flipping it lol
 
are the fins to icrease traction
 
@HatterisMad honestly I can't really compare, it looks pretty normal to me
 
user2620028
the wings are for downforce yes lol
 
user2620028
@kendall and this is what they should look like on a mile youtube.com/watch?v=pe2EAgni5gw
 
user2620028
3:08 AM
ooh actually my bad i think bristol might be a half mile
 
user2620028
@kendall do iracing dirt tracks take rubber?
 
maybe? they certainly slick up, but I don't know how much of that is rubber and how much is dirt
 
!!afk 🌙
 
user2620028
@kendall taking rubber is when the tracks get so sticky that you cant slide anymore, like this youtube.com/watch?v=3iZbAZGVd38
 
I haven't seen that happen yet
How long does that take to happen?
 
user2620028
3:16 AM
depends on the track, its the next stage after slick lol
 
user2620028
and largely depends on the type of dirt, if its black dirt then it will slick up for 10-15 laps or so and then will start taking rubber
 
user2620028
if its a clay or red dirt then it will usually skip the slick part and just start taking rubber on lap 1....
 
user2620028
the rubber is so strong that you will hear the driveline start to chatter when you accidentally slide into it
 
user2620028
and then basically if you accidentally hit the gas even a little bit for the rest of the night you are doing nothing but wheelies
 
user2620028
makes for a really boring race as everyone is just single file in the rubber after that
 
3:19 AM
I had the most boring race ever the other day
NASCARs at Daytona, unofficial race so about 20 cars
plonked it on pole, sat on the apron for 15 laps, easy win
well not on the apron lol
 
user2620028
you catfished them
 
just hugging the yellow line
@HatterisMad is that a racing term?
 
user2620028
yeah lol... its when you drive on the bottom and never move from the spot
 
user2620028
cause catfish always sit on the bottom of the body of water they are in
 
ok, then yeah that's what I did :P
 
3:21 AM
what happens during pit stops?
 
user2620028
whats a pit stop :O
 
@William it was an unofficial race, so too short for pit stops
also no cautions
 
catfish = hugging the line
catfish = inaccurate portrayal of yourself in life on social media
catfish = fish that has teeth that can bight
 
basically I was just trying to minimize the chance of being wrecked, cause it's nearly impossible to pass anywhere but the inside
 
how fast was this race
 
user2620028
3:23 AM
we usually say someone is catfishing when they hug the bottom and never leave it
 
user2620028
and then you say you have been catfished when you try to follow them down on the bottom and realize that the line is really really slow and the driver is just driving insanely well to be going that fast down there lol
 
user2620028
i get catfished a lot :(
 
user2620028
cause i always set my car up to drive above the cushion, so when i try the bottom i will lose a couple seconds on the car in front of me almost guaranteed
 
Is it typically hard to pass on a high line?
 
user2620028
but it will be that one time you don't try the line that you find out the rubber has been down there for the past 7 laps and you could be going way faster in a way safer line
 
user2620028
3:25 AM
@KendallFrey no its almost required to pass on the higher line, but rubber usually forms in the middle or on the bottom, so you have to get off the top sometimes to try and see if you can find the rubber
 
user2620028
if the rubber forms on the bottom and you are still hanging around on the top then you will be left in the dust, or wreck trying to overdrive your cars capabilities on the top, when you could just putt around on the bottom with basically zero risk
 
@jpp I disagree. It's the Java room. I don't go in there. I don't care what goes on in there. The room owners can get on with managing any unwanted behaviour in their own room. — Martin James 8 mins ago
"java"
 
@KevinB yeah lol
 
user2620028
so someone will always set up their car to run the bottom and will run the bottom really fast and make you wonder if there is rubber down there, and you will come off the top and check out the bottom for a turn and lose two seconds and start cursing them for catfishing you lol
 
PornHub Expands Parental Controls For User Accounts https://trib.al/5ju87RV
5
 
3:29 AM
probably for teens watching gun videos
make sure to block those
 
user2620028
just restrict them to missionary, no midget nugget porn for them
 
user2620028
had to make sure i was typing that into the right chat
 
3:46 AM
\o morning
 
I'm looking for a react-based library that lets me lay components out like a tree.
I found one (github.com/uber/react-digraph), but it doesn't allow for much customization (which I need).
 
o/
 
Basically, I'm trying to make something like this: nifi.apache.org/assets/images/flow.png
I'm not sure what the best way to go about doing this is
 
@littlepootis stackoverflow.com/questions/7231039/… looks old but you might get some keyword
 
@SurajRao Thank you, they seem great
 
4:13 AM
Also that q I linked might be off topic by current standards
 
Despite that question needing some close votes it does seem a bit deprecated. I want to say Raphael is no longer supported?
I vaguely remember looking for the docs a couple years ago for work and only finding 404s
 
5:11 AM
yeah Raphael is dead
it was amazing for doing anything in IE6 dealing with svgs
but man.. that was so long ago
actually.. heh it looks active
eh maybe not so much idk. released this on Nov 11, 2016
 
when i map an 'ID' from an object array, how do i grab the id that's the highest numerically?
 
^ that was the last release
then depending on which way you sorted it will be the first, or last element
/me heads to bed
 
night o/
 
errr
it sorts the first number
what if my id's range, ex: 31 is higher than 3
but it places 4 at the end
@Loktar answer:
    var pID = Math.max.apply(Math, PurchasesDataList.map(x => x.ID));
 
6:21 AM
if
 
7:04 AM
This network doesn't cease to impress.
 
@JacobSchneider Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
ohhi
 
hi
@CapricaSix Will Do
 
@JacobSchneider hey, Caprica is our bot - no need to thank here, welcome :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, was wondering why I got the response so quickly, are people just nice or what? :D
 
7:12 AM
We had people come here and ask to ask a question and be polite around it which was kind of them but wasted everyone's time - so the bot pings people letting them know that asking questions is fine.
 
Yeah, makes sense. also, nice Bio Btw
 
Thanks I guess?
 
Hah, sorry. I do that.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum How's Morris?
 
@MadaraUchiha good, I guess?
 
7:18 AM
lol, is there a meta question now about the js room?
 
There is, yes.
 
that blog post sure did stir up SO
 
Atom is really slow, what editor should I use?
 
@Ikari It did, and I fear that it's not for the better.
@JacobSchneider For JS? vscode
 
@JacobSchneider personally I'm a fan of vscode but webstorm is also quite popular
Hi @SamSaffron - welcome
 
7:20 AM
indeed, it feels like it's making the community divided
 
@Ikari not the first time and not the last time, probably.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, Tried it. I quite like it actually.
 
So, I'm trying to collect feedback on async iterators
And I got 0 responses so far to my poll -_-
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Are you surprised?
 
:B
 
7:22 AM
It's not like async iterators were this high profile very televised feature
 
@MadaraUchiha well, I posted it in JSIL :D There's that, I waited on posting it elsewhere - plus it's kind of long, but we've had people come in ask about them before.
 
!!afk 😴
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yikes that is a very serious and long form
 
brb meeting
 
> Filling this form can take up to 20-30 minutes. Ain't nobody got time for that
 
7:26 AM
I wanted to be entirely honest
 
.
 
Why do I see this error in TS , while it does work in console ?
 Promise.reject(3).finally(() => {})
Property 'finally' does not exist on type 'Promise<never>'
 
Because finally is a feature of ES2018
(OR es2017?) anyway it's too new
 
oh. Thanks.
 
7:28 AM
So what is the alternative in es6 to "finally" ?
I don't want to write the same callback twice (success,fail)
 
@RoyiNamir that was the alternative.
 
:-) Thank you
 
It was just delayed from ES6 to give cancellation with finally with cancellation a chance to materialize - it didn't so it was eventually added - it's safe to use now.
(and polyfill)
 
!!rust or lisp or something else
 
@towc rust
 
7:34 AM
haskell
 
People are bugged by an onion article.. I was hoping this place would not turn into facebook
 
see? That right there. I can't tell if the user is misunderstanding the context or plain out trolling
so what am I to do? I ignore it. Or complain about not knowing what to do
 
Yup do not feed the trolls. Rule no 1 of internet
 
to clear confusion: I'm saying you might be the troll
 
7:51 AM
Oh flattery.. but no. I was referring to the infamous meta post
 
@RoyiNamir You could polyfill it
 
8:13 AM
Promise.prototype.finally = function(onResolveOrReject) {
  return this.catch(function(reason){
    return reason;
  }).then(onResolveOrReject);
};
Though I hate to patch protoype
 
@RoyiNamir in that case you could just make a wrapper
finally(promise, callback);
but
 
👍
 
Promise.prototype.finally = Promise.prototype.finally || function (onResolveOrReject) {
  return this.catch(function(reason){
    return reason;
  }).then(onResolveOrReject);
};
 
actually no, I should focus on a project that intrigues me, like building that github navigator for vim
 
But ^ has an advantage of simply not doing so if finally actually works
 
8:19 AM
will take weeks, maybe
 
@towc that would be really nice
won't take weeks
github api is incredibly simple
 
but my vimscript skills are young
 
well I know there is the entire GraphQL thing going on now, but even that is simple
@towc can't you write a native plugin 😃 ?
 
I don't want a vim-like experience
I want a vim experience
also, integrating for ssh/non-ssh, making it easy for the user to input their keys, then doing the layout stuff, figuring out edge cases and sanitizing everything for vim
I'm not sure where to get started on a few of those, so it will take weeks, I think
I'd love it to be something nice and usable, not just for me
ofc I'll keep my standards low-ish for now. Planning big with not much experience almost never goes well
storing temporary files to enable linting and stuff without having to clone the whole repo (which was why I wanted the plugin in the first place) is probably the scariest bit
 
@towc that sounds very impressive if you could pull it off :D
I am not a vim-user anymore
 
8:31 AM
once a vim user, you don't come back
you're lying
 
@towc Microsoft paid my way out of it
So I am trying to setup a slightly complicated cloud deployment
I have modules being stored on S3 which is where I'd like them to be preferably delivered from. However, in order to restrict access to S3 I have an EC2 instance sitting in front of S3, such that each time I get a request on EC2 I simply create a signed URL for S3 and redirect the user accordingly if content is available on S3.
Now since this is a GET dominated use-case, I'd like to put Cloudfront in front of all of this
 
8:46 AM
While typing this I figured it out ^
 
mornings
 
morn
 
Mornings!
Wait its morning in Australia already?
 
eing
in australia it's night
but who's from australia
 
I thought Ikari was
 
8:56 AM
I don't think so, we've played overwatch together
how am I supposed to play with someone who is upside-down?
 

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