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18:01
Is it okay to ping you if I run out of Half and Half in my kitchen?
Like, I don't expect you to do anything about it, but it's traumatizing to me and I need to talk to someone about it.
That's fine.
I dont mind pings. I just wanna know what for
@rlemon I never had any half and half
which half?
yes
sorry
18:07
my tuition for the next term is $9119
:(
@rlemon I was reviewing an old answer in Unix SE, that & actually only makes the pipe bomb slower doesn't it?
idk. a fork bomb is a fork bomb imo
yeah, it will work anyways :p
I was just wondering why I was seeing it often, when not putting the process in the background would make it faster
@Zirak I'm down for some Overwatch now, wanna play? ^^
@Ikari sure, gimme 10 mins
18:12
/cc @MadaraUchiha
alrighty right
My little brother is going to a 3 month 9 hour a day JavaScript intensive. Would you actually hire somebody like that? It’s his only experience.
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@jmb.mage How good is he
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Idgaf how he learned.
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We've told people with Masters to gtfo
He is smart enough to figure basic stuff out now. string filtering functions, etc. I’ll see where he is after their course. It is kind of Hail Mary, all-in, make or break approach to learning and getting a job.
18:17
apart from it being javascript, i wouldnt mind taking a look at what he learned
my roommate is just finishing up a similar thing
@jmb.mage If I'm really blunt: I think that's a terrible thing to do.
they're not bad, but you come out with fairly minimal knowledge
the best people can only learn so much in 3 months.
@ssube what if you have advanced knowledge?
18:18
then you're probably not at a bootcamp
hmm...
Anyone will tell you: the best thing you can learn is the ability to learn. And a "make or break" approach is not focussed on actually teaching things to be self-sufficient.
But sure, if they came out of that class with a solid base, sure, i'd hire for entry level
im doing a bachelor education at the moment
and its being a piece of cake
i mean, I have to tell the teacher that what he says is simply wrong sometimes
18:18
@Wietlol where?
fuck me this is clever
its kinda disappointing and i lose all motivation
@Wietlol Given your name I believe you also originate from the "low countries" -- I'm doing currently a BSc in AE, and it's NOT easy
@jmb.mage where how?
what do you call "low countries"?
where u doing bachelors?
18:19
The Netherlands.
Or belgium
Does anyone have any experience with the paper.js library?
@jmb.mage at the Hogeschool van Arnhem en Nijmegen
@paul23 the netherlands yea
but my name is english
it's not an amalgamation of "weed" + "lol"?
@paul23 no
back when I played maplestory, i used a random name generator
"ohlol" (sorry)
18:20
it gave me Karakirewiet
but people thought it was too long to write
so they started calling me wietlol
heh
and i got attached to it
btw I have to say "oh that kind of BSc degree"
18:21
the thing is if you do those training courses you also have to make β€œthings”, apps, sites, on your own. Like any skill you must practice on your own outside of courses.
its a unique name, so im happy
@paul23 what is a BSc?
BullShit course
Bachelor of Science. The title you'll get in a few years (sadly, it's not as protected as the older titles).
the biggest problem I have is that I taught myself how to program
18:23
Do you know da whey?
I am currently so far ahead compared to the other students
@nodws Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
there are 3 in my class (including me) that are just there for the paperwork
@nodws yes.
Spit on @nodws my broddas
18:24
@jmb.mage I study aerospace engineering now; having also done a BSc in mathematics and physics in the past... However I currently work using javascript, yet when I started I hardly had any experience with javascript (like 2 months).
click * click*
I did have experience with programming in general, knowing quite a few languages from my studies/bored evenings.
I have programmed mostly in Jvm languages
currently, our classes are in Java
im like... "dude, I invented this shit"
I didnt, but I know everything about Java in development stages
@Wietlol πŸ™„
Hi, why did you name Java tha--- oh
18:26
But a short course wouldn't have helped me at all: learning how to program is not about knowing a language it's about learning how to solve problems. You need to learn how to split problems up into smaller problems and how to tackle large unmanageable blobs of ideas.
you need to know how to not make a mess
everyone can search for stackoverflow answers and copy'n'paste them in their code
(ok, maybe not everyone)
> how to copy, halp!
but, if you dont know how to keep everything maintainable, then you are pretty much out of luck
@Luggage lmgtfy
im wondering if cap is refusing me now
@Wietlol First year Aerospace engineering we had to learn matlab. I remember that still quite well: it was a test each friday, at the end you could "remove your lowest 2 grades". - By the end however I had enough points that any grade I would get would get removed anyways. -- Yet due to attendence rules I was forced to deliver "something". So I just made a viewer that showed the graph...
she plays hard to get
18:29
i thought lmgtfy links were banned
however after 2 seconds it showed the then most popular youtube video
cap can't ban links.
I’ve learned so much about PV, engines and electricity today 😱
What's PV?
18:30
PV?
Helps take my mind off the computer, that’s only less than a day away 😍😍😍
I got a mail "you shouldn't do that".
Photovoltaics
so, solar panels
18:30
he's in the biz. It's PV.
solar power OP
Well there’s a difference between solar and pv
yeah all the letters are totally different
man, I'm kind of realizing I can't make this freelance thing work right now, at least I haven't had so far..
I have my regular job, a part time online job, and the time left is what I have to work on both learning and doing the jobs, and I'm not being very lucky with clients
I either get a realistic easy to deliver job but a terrible client that doesn't play his role, or I get offered a job that I'm not sure I can deliver in an alright time frame (online store, slightly complicated front end app for customizing products, ..)
maybe I should keep it as a hobby for now, kind of a shame, because I wanted to have this line of work as a plan B if I needed to get away from my current job
@IanC If you feel like you need to get away from your current job then maybe it is worth just doing that and pursuing the freelance thing full time with your online job remaining as part time
Most people (who are unhappy with their jobs) are unhappy for reasons that they can't control (workplace culture, boss that is a dick/incompetent/etc.), and most programmers report IIRC that the most likely way for them to get more money is to switch jobs
18:43
After a few years, i couldn't keep development/web related things as a hobby or do freelancing
just wasn't fun anymore once i was making money doing it
Once it was associated as a job to me, i felt that if i wasn't making money doing it, it wasn't worth doing
@TylerH I get it, I'm actually fine with my job, it's alright.. It just doesn't prepare me for anything else, and I'm not sure about the stability in a medium-term future. It's a partially public company, and there's this whole politics ghost behind it suggesting to make it private
so I'm more afraid that I'll be surprised later by some change that will leave me in a bad spot of finding something else than unsatisfied
Fortunately "It just doesn't prepare me for anything else" is something you can solve on your own
For a while i considered leaving my job because i felt the same way about it... but then i realized i really enjoy working here, and that problem is something i can solve either by pushing for new projects that use newer tech, or by learning off the clock.
@Zirak do you have formatting utils I can use here?
    // in Zirak style?
    function finishCb(cb) {
        return function(resp) {
            var gistData = JSON.parse(resp);
            cb('Donna Noble has left The Library.' +
                ' [Donna Noble has been saved.](' + gistData.html_url + ')');
        };
    }
    function getBotStorage() {
        return Object.keys(localStorage).reduce(function(filtered, key) {
            // we hide the config because it contains keys
            if (key.startsWith('bot_') && !key.includes('config')) {
                filtered[key] = localStorage[key];
            }
            return filtered;
        }, {});
    }
also seems like it should be baked in somewhere?
18:53
@KevinB you're right, I guess I'll just keep studying without the pressure of delivering work, maybe make some example websites to my portfolio with no clients behind it. I'd still be preparing for the possibility of needing to do it full time
Now i'm free to use react/angular/node etc where appropriate over coldfusion
banana
🍌
@Ikari tell Zirak I have questions for him, Overwatch can wait
18:54
push messages from the chat websocket don't show up in the network tab
you lookin in the right place with all filters off?
Do any messages from websockets show up in the network tab?
I'll work on learning Magento for a while, I think that would open a lot of doors, though the way you build websites with it is a lot different than what I'm used to (actually coding it bottom up)
That would make my life easier
@Cereal the connection does, the messages appear in frame data
18:55
@Cereal you can see "new" when you send a message
Oh really. I guess I never clicked on it
that posts, the incoming websocket data is in the frames
filter to websockets.
make your connection
select it
check the frames.
ah, I need to have the network tab open when the connection is made?
I think so
Thanks for the input @KevinB and @TylerH, I've been banging my head to the wall lately trying to decide whether to pick this complicated freelance job or not, your advice actually helped me have a better idea of what to do
think I'll decline it for now
18:59
i mean... really think about it... unforunately, the job i passed up was working for justin.tv bfore it became twitch O.o that might have been a mistake
lol
You could have been the king of fortnite...
sorry, I mean't freelance job, I've no current offers for an actual job on the area :p
@KevinB so kappa could have been Kevin?
ah, yeah, i've given up on freelance jobs, just don't need the money and rather play games in my off time
who knows
:p
there was this front-end position open nearby, but I never stepped forward to see what it was about and if they'd actually consider hiring me
I'm also not sure the wage would compensate me quitting my current job
19:02
I passed it up because i didn't feel the pay that was offered was worth it, considering the increased cost of living there
it's so cheap here
@rlemon See, my coding style changed between when I wrote the bot and now
yes but I'm trying to keep mine consistent with how the bot currently is
@rlemon those better be some good questions :p
Now he skips semicolons.
when working on the bot*
19:03
Looks pretty ok
but is there alternatives to the formatting and bot memory stuff?
as in, have you already wrote utils to do that?
For the formatting you have String..supplant
kk, I'll check that
for the memory...nothing that I can distinctly remember
Check the config file maybe?
pretty light. nothing in there.
19:11
So I'm at a new office this week, and I was thinking I really liked the chairs they had around the office
Thinking, i'd like one of these at home
Look them up: 850 bucks
Each
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Did it fit in your car
user1596138
Oh
@Cereal herman miller?
I'd have to fit it on the plane
steelcase think w/ mesh back
user1596138
Post em links
!!refresh
!!backup
Can you undo a refresh?
@rlemon Donna Noble has left The Library [Donna Noble has been saved](undefined).
user1596138
Those do look nice
19:13
well that's nice. :(
user1596138
I'm in the market for a entire home office unfortunately
user1596138
Within the month
in Sandbox, 2 mins ago, by rlemon
@rlemon Donna Noble has left The Library Donna Noble has been saved.
something isn't right. that should work
I tested it
!!version
@Cereal That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
19:13
I propose a version command so you can ensure the right version is running
@Jhawins Idk about all the buzzwords on that store page, but they're comfy as fuck
It definitely does conform to your back too.
The back leans back while the seat stays flat, also nice
I wonder if I can expense it
just the portion of time you spend sitting in it working, not playing :)
Cats wouldn't be able to scratch it either
How do I set the current schema at the top of a postgres sql script so I don't have to reference the schema when creating/altering tables?
is it set search_path?
19:20
ugh. @Zirak I hate that you over write the configs when the bot loads.
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@Cereal Isn't that how every chair works?
All of my chairs, the seat leans with the back
user1596138
Wtf lol
user1596138
The one Im sitting in does too
@Luggage @ssube
19:28
it ends with "burn in hell," so you think of us? :P
Clearly!
!!backup works again
@rlemon Donna Noble has left The Library Donna Noble has been saved.
Yeah I thought you'd appreciate :D
!!backup
@KamilSolecki Donna Noble has left The Library Donna Noble has been saved.
19:29
oh welp
@rlemon goodo jobo
Our exact launch window today is 18:51:31 - 18:52:01 EDT (22:51:31 - 22:52:01 UTC). #NASA #TESS #SpaceX #Falcon9
30 second window :D
blasphemy
meh, people have been setting off fireworks within 30 seconds for centuries.
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Q: Mischievous ('.class').length result

Tyler LazenbyI have two div's with the class .news-alerts. When I run the following code, I look at the console log and it says There are 11 alerts. What could be causing this? var alertCount = ('.news-alert').length; console.log("There are " + alertCount + " alerts."); $('.close').click(function(){ alert...

19:36
@KevinB mischievous!
@rlemon :( I'm sorry too
yeah, that's what made me click the title
"Mischievous"
@Zirak I was just venting. I had to change the config to not contain keys I want to override in loader.user.js
and the weather key that was there was invalid
!!tell Cereal clap this is now standard
@rlemon Command clap does not exist. Did you mean: slap (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
gash darnit
why am I so bad at this?
19:41
she gotcha there
I swear I'm testing
in Sandbox, 1 min ago, by rlemon
I πŸ‘ love πŸ‘ my πŸ‘ hands
swear more, test less :D
wat
why would clap work standalone but not in a tell
that was with my local version
beer!clap should work
@rlemon Nuh-uh
wtf....
back to testing..
staph
19:43
on the bright side, she doesn't have the clap
where's hammertime
HAMMAHTIME!
HAMMAHTIME!
o shit
derp
19:44
Nice we can now leverage lemon
I changed my pattern, but listeners still trigger.
my bad
lool
!!tel kamilsolecki I love you
@KamilSolecki Command i does not exist. Did you mean: 3, hi, u, d, pi, y, !, ^, Ο€, ?, א (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
@kamilsolecki I love you
you want tel
19:46
5 hours ago, by rlemon
@BenjaminGruenbaum "I like to fondle dead goats"
I expected a double from you :/
!! isn't the trigger for his local bot
hello guys :)
not sure but can we ask node.js related questions here or this is strictly only JS?
welp
it works. I just didn't get a new file on refresh I guess.
@Nero yea
19:47
!!tell Cereal clap this is now standard
@Cereal this πŸ‘ is πŸ‘ now πŸ‘ standard
!!clap WELCOME TO 2018 BOIS
WELCOME πŸ‘ TO πŸ‘ 2018 πŸ‘ BOIS
aight. next?
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Q: how to split the from HTML text thought jquery

perus joshHi please check the below html code and push out the text Daici Chen, Ph.D.Research Associate ProfessorSun Yat-sen University the result should name - Daici Chen, Ph.D. title- Research Associate Professor company-Sun Yat-sen University kindly help me to do this in jquery thanks Josh

19:48
@KevinB very basic question mate, I've been trying to create a RESTful API for the last hour using node.js, mongodb but I am not making any progress
@KevinB can you recommend me any good and up to date tutorial to follow?
nope, haven't read any recently
@rlemon Now add a currency system that gives people points for chat activity, that they can spend in a shop that's populated with all the extra steam keys I get from humble budles
ok
i have probably 30 keys i'll never use
damn, my internet went off for a while, got a bit lost in the conversation
gotta get ready for work anyways
see you guys later!
19:53
o/

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