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8:00 PM
How much should a 1080 go for?
 
@BenCraig like 599ish I think?
 
@BenCraig 3 times around
 
@BenCraig aka without bitcoin inflation?
 
I'm curious if I can get rid of the 7970 I have downstairs
 
8:01 PM
549
 
it would be easy, but it has a water block, not air
 
@TylerH Yeah. Im not planning on getting a new card anytime soon, but I like to look and imagine
 
@ssube I see them selling for $150 n ebay
 
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@Loktar Yea I'd have one if that was possible
 
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Permanently out of stock
 
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8:02 PM
I saw some for $650 on Amazon. The ROG STRIX ones
 
@ssube My build machine has a 5770 in it, of course, it has some easy work, but it still runs.
 
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In stock, prime shipping. Almost bought one
 
$150 isn't bad for a card I paid maybe $400 for
 
yeah prices are for sure coming down though, they were $250 in the summer
 
8:02 PM
it was the Sapphire GHz one, too
 
I sold my 290x for 370 last summer
 
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@Loktar isn't a Founders better than all the others anyway?
 
and I paid 380 or something new in 2015 lol
@Jhawins no, it's marketing BS lol
 
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Why is it cheaper
 
8:03 PM
So if $550 USD is the price it should go for, then theyre only $100 more in store here, thats not terrible
 
I got my GTX 950 2GB back in September 2015 for $170... wow I can't believe I've had that card for almost 3 years already
 
founders editions came out early and were $100 more
and people paid it....
 
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They're at least the same then?
 
No wonder it complained a bit when I tried to play the latest Ghost Recon game on high settings...
 
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@Loktar They're over $100 under the market today tho
 
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8:04 PM
Maybe they weren't so dumb to pay it...
 
@Jhawins yeah stock clocks etc, plus the earliest/first released
 
@TylerH Yeah, I have a 960 in my machine now, got it for $230~ ish(?) Fortunately it's still a champ for all my needs, I just wish I sprung on the 1070 before the mayhem happened, so I could be with the VR cool kids.
 
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You think prices will ever be normal again or new GPU releases will just take a 150 hike at launch?
 
most third parties like EVGA, etc you can get nice ones with great cooling solutions also stock overclocked
 
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I wouldn't price them where they are if it were up to me. It seems the market spoke and they're worth $650-700
 
8:05 PM
@hilli_micha I think my card is plenty powerful for what little gaming I have time for these days (especially since I am spending a lot of my gaming time on a backlog of older games)
but I think it could do with 1 or 2 extra GB of VRAM
 
@Jhawins I mean, RAM has been pretty inflated for the longest time now, so I'm not hopeful and there is too much money in the cryptocurrency scene to just die off with any urgency.
 
I'm just glad I got mine when I did, but man there are 3 at Bestbuy near me for MSRP
 
my current and last GPUs were EVGA
 
I just waited until there was a bundle with 2 games I wanted
 
3 1080's Ive almost bought one a few times to resell..
 
8:05 PM
got a rare card at a fair price
 
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@hilli_micha At the same time everyone is saying crytpo is over and stock is falling
 
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Confusing days these are
 
RAM prices are still brutal and there's no way to avoid that
 
I mean, there is no doubt that there is a shit load of money in the scene now. And, to be fair, people have been saying crytpo is over and dead since the first dip in BTC years ago.
So I'm not hopeful.
 
I wish it would for real die though just so hardware can be normal again
 
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8:06 PM
Oh yeah. My point was that I had no point, it's all speculation
 
what is the holdup with all these high prices? some rare earth element?
 
@hilli_micha it just recently crashed (again)
 
Did anybody ever encounter problems with video-playback in Safari browsers?
 
the high prices for memory are due to the DDR3/4 switch and future types
 
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All I know is. I bought AMD for $9.53.
 
8:07 PM
 
how many dies can produce a particular type of memory at a time
 
LOL even articles are all over the place
 
they can switch types but it takes a while
 
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@Loktar lmao jesus
 
would a laptop with these specs be a good deal for 4088.50 Processor : Intel Xeon E3-1575M v5 Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz)
Operating System : Windows 10 Pro for Workstation 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Pro 64 for Workstation English
Display : 17.3" 4K (3840x2160), anti-glare, IPS
Memory : 64GB DDR4 2133MHz ECC SoDIMM (16GBx4)
Graphic Card : NVIDIA Quadro M5000M 8GB
Color Sensor : With Color Sensor
Camera : 720p HD Camera with Microphone
Keyboard : Backlit Keyboard with Number Pad - English
 
8:08 PM
good luck lifting it
 
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@Rick For $4,000?
 
LOL...
 
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Go home Rick, you're drunk
 
that price... 720p camera
rip
 
lol
 
8:08 PM
so it's a rip off
 
> NVMe
> 64GB
> 4.1 Pro
> ...
> 720p
 
because it's a lenovo
 
idk I wouldnt pay that much, but the camera just makes me lol
1080 has been the standard for YEARS lol
 
nah, those lenovo workstationbooks are great
but it's meant to sit at your desk, in a dock
 
idk where you can even find a standalone 720p web cam new haha
 
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8:09 PM
What part about that thing is worth $4K?
 
Curiosity, why would you need something that crazy?
 
I don't care about the camera
 
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Not seeing anything interesting but 4K monitor
 
@Loktar I got one for $3 from china to watch my printer
 
graphics card
ram
 
8:09 PM
well yeah no one does, but why include such a shitty one in a 4k machine
 
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@Rick Shit graphics card, what
 
cpu
 
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You not gonna game with it, right?
 
nope
 
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You're gonna do real work things lol
 
8:10 PM
is 4k even worth it on a 17" monitor?
 
the ram and space are nice... but yeah
@Shmiddty hah great point actually
 
virtual machines/machine learning
 
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userbenchmarks puts that GPU at -759% the perf of a 1080
 
they have 4k phones these days
science has gone far too far
 
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WHich is funny when you do it that way
 
8:10 PM
half of the price is in that nvme i bet
 
@Loktar it sounds like they got the field of view right, and the resolution
 
well ok, 1/8th of the price I guess
 
Hopefully they fix these issues, and we'll see if they can compete!
 
my desktop is getting low on disk, I either need to move my steam entirely to a network drive or spring for a bigger NVMe drive
 
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I love how it still comes with a DVD burner
 
8:12 PM
so it's a good deal for what's included i would think
 
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In 2018
 
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I honestly haven't used a disk in 2 years
 
but no bluray?
 
@Rick for that hardware, in a laptop form factor, it's reasonable ish
the parts aren't cheap but you are still paying for the form
 
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If I wanted to watch a DVD the only way I could is in my car
 
8:12 PM
idk I still wouldn't even say it's a reasonable price, it's definitely not a deal
 
@ssube what would be a better alternative?
 
@Shmiddty definitely not...
 
it's just normal price wise, but not a "good deal"
 
parts for that system are, what, $2500?
 
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@Rick have you looked around? For that price at System76 they have some crazy machines as well
 
8:13 PM
50% markup for a laptop, a few % for prebuilt
it's not a deal but it's not a mac
 
not even the fastest ddr4
 
I don't think they make 16GB sticks of the fastest stuff
 
lol man a huge chunk of the price is in the ram though
 
Well the form is also nice, compact and keyboard feels good on the fingers
 
at least, I couldn't find a 4x16 kit when I was looking a month? ago
had to step down a few speeds to find a kit that size
 
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8:15 PM
@Rick link?
 
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I can't find it based on the specs
 
just pricey af
 
@Luggage FYI (not that you claimed this or anything) 'rare earth' elements is a deprecated name (because it is misleading); lanthanides are not rare at all
 
8:15 PM
just in case anyone thought that...
 
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@Loktar that's like 1/4 of my damn budget lmao just buying my ram
 
I had to customize it
 
@Loktar that's 3000
 
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I want to be able to upgrade later so need 2X16
 
and apply a cupon code
 
8:15 PM
the latest is like 4200
 
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But nice, Lenovo is nice
 
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It just linked to the empty cart
 
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Especially the workstations
 
@Loktar this is what I have atm
 
I hated those lenovo laptops that had a 1 screw remove HDD
 
8:16 PM
Yeah, RAM sucks, I managed to find a 8GB stick of DDR4 laptop RAM for $40, felt like I won the fucking lottery
 
I've never seen so many HDD failures
 
it's about $100 cheaper than when I got it, too :(
 
I used lenovo products from back in the day and they all sucked bad
 
All because it was too mobile
 
I now carry a bias
fuck lenovo
 
8:17 PM
ditto
 
yeah I'm a dork I even have 3200 lol
 
lol
 
I have 2 sets of those
bought sep 23rd 2016, let me check price diff heh
holy fuck
> 119.99
 
ohh speaking of ram, I need laptop ram
 
8:18 PM
$215 for 16GB of RAM, kill me now.
 
2*8
 
is what I paid for each set in 2016...
 
is there a recommended brand?
 
I basically maxed CPU graphics cards, and harddrive
 
corsair is a safe bet, all intel/server stuff is good
 
8:19 PM
Corsair is always my go-to if I give a shit
 
Anyone knows how I can invite a user to chat?
 
But I've dabbled in Kingston, A-DATA, and others. A-DATA is the only one I've ever had an issue with, one stick of an order was faulty, but I sent it back and they took care of it. So no major issues.
 
I've heard mostly good things about gskill, I wanna say
I've had bad luck with Kingston, but they're a reseller iirc
 
@Jonathan how are you communicating with them now? do they have at least 20 rep?
 
Yes they do
ask them in the comment? :/
 
8:20 PM
that's usually the best bet
 
The $40 8GB of DDR4 I bought was Kingston, so wish me luck.
 
Whoa I didn't know the rift touch has button awareness!
 
@hilli_micha I've had this bookmarked forever because it's an interesting article, but relevant because Kingston: bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918
it gets into the details of fake SD cards and where they might have come from
 
If Russia is blocking Telegram for not handing over its encryption keys, does that mean WhatsApp & Skype, which aren't blocked, have already done so? Have they admitted or denied this? https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-regulator-orders-block-telegram/29170161.html
 
8:24 PM
@mjabadilla Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
does anyone have a sock that has never been into the chats before?
I wanna test something
 
@rlemon You mean ever, or that Caprica knows about?
 
I wanna see if I manually send an invite to someone who isn't a "chat user" if they get the notification on main anyways
 
@mjabadilla I created a new room
 
lol so i checked to see if my sock had ever been greeted by cap
it had, once when i logged in because my main was suspended
 
8:27 PM
:O
 
naughty me
 
hrm, how can I test this without creating another sock?
@MadaraUchiha ideas?
 
create a user
 
@rlemon Don't think you can
 
oh..
20 rep
 
8:29 PM
I mean, mods have superping for that express purpose
 
@MadaraUchiha well I can just post to the endpoint.
and that works
 
@rlemon You get 200?
 
I just wanna see if I can do that if they're not a chat user
 
superping me @MadaraUchiha
 
notice me senpai
 
8:29 PM
@SterlingArcher
 
you get my invite?
 
thanks <3
 
@rlemon Me?
 
ohh fuck off so
> It was not possible to send your invite: The user is already present.
 
@MadaraUchiha you were the one recommending a desk vacuum/brush thing, weren't you?
 
8:30 PM
I guess I should invite you to rooms you're not in?
@MadaraUchiha there, you should have gotten that
 
amazon came like 5 minutes ago and my keyboard is already so clean :D
3
 
@ssube I was
@rlemon Got that one
 
@MadaraUchiha yea I was trying to invite you to 1
you were already there :P
now what happens if your 'user' doesn't have a chat user associated?
the ids are the same.
I know what you might think will happen, but is that tested? 😛 I have no faith now since the websocket leaks from the past
 
8:33 PM
Not sure.
I would have offered to delete a chat account of an already existing sock
But I'm not sure it's equivalent to not having a chat account to begin with... or reversible.
 
if I remembered Dr. Eval's password I'd say that one
ohh yea
 
@ssube that sentence concerns me
 
Next person to make a sock, before joining the chats, can you let me test something? kthnxs
 
!!afk am concerned
 
@SterlingArcher I'll do more than concern you bby
 
8:38 PM
@ssube SterlingArcher is afk: am concerned
 
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@rlemon you pleb, not using fkey to it's full potential
 
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body: fkey({UserId: 871050, RoomId: 157612})
 
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I vote to ban rlemon
 
@Jhawins well, I'm passing a string.
 
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Also @rlemon I have an account linked to one of my other logins that I have never used if you want me to login to it
 
8:40 PM
Has it been to the chats?
 
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Ah yea you're right
 
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And lemme check
 
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It's been to the chat domain I'm sure
 
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Never participated
 
Then I think the user was created
 
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8:41 PM
How would I find out without visiting the chats
 
Er, the association
What's the id
 
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It uhh.... It linked that account to my real one
 
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So nvm
 
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It was my facebook login
 
o wait, is the association made when you create the account...
 
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8:42 PM
@rlemon it's prompting me to make an account when I tried to login with Google
 
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So. If I click this submit button I will have an absolutely fresh ID
 
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Do you want me to
 
I just grabbed some random id's from main that shouldn't have chat accounts (well, probably not) and they are all chat users since join date. :/
 
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Ahh okay
 
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I'm sure out of the newest users most wouldn't have actually visited chat. That's a safe bet
 
8:43 PM
chat.stackoverflow.com/users/5122582 like completely random id
chat user since ... blah
 
I thinking about making my own android browser on top of Chrome. Any ideas?
 
well... the id's don't line up with main do they?
 
@KevinB afaik they do
 
@KevinB they do not
if you mean user IDs for chat
 
8:44 PM
yeah, so you can't just pick a random userid
 
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LMAO the first one I clicked is already suspended
 
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They do match up.
 
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You can simply visit chat.stackoverflow instead of stackoverflow.com on any user
 
@TylerH well mine does, yours does, Kevins does.
 
8:44 PM
mine lines up
 
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That's how it works they all do
 
I think it's a safe bet that they do
 
That's... actually new
 
okay, so everyone is a chat user. next thing to test is does it work like pings.
 
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I checked a ton of users on the Newest users by creation date page, all have matching chat/main creation dates
 
8:45 PM
if I ping someone who has never been to chat, they don't get the ping.
if I invite someone to a room who has never been...
 
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@rlemon invite 9655385
 
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It's me.
 
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Oh fuck
 
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What tf it merged that one to JDonks
 
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Hahaha nvm
 
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8:47 PM
That's all the logins I had that I might've logged into SO with before. SOL
 
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Why are you testing this anyway
 
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It doesn't seem interesting, but it's something so I jumped on board
 
I wanna see if you can invite users to the chat who have never been
no reason. seems annoying and useful if it is possible.
@Ikari so.. some hentai weeb shit just added me on Twitter. was this your doing?
 
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I found a really weird situation
 
like, full on hentai
 
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8:49 PM
I logged into yet another email and it had me actually create an account
 
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But the notifications on this account are pointing to notifications on Jhawins from 2014
 
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This is fucked up lol
 
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@rlemon you know how usernames and avatars take a bit to get to chat? So does the main account itself.
 
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This one 404s atm
 
ahh, so it's not instant.
 
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8:51 PM
Nope
 
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Fuck now it's complete
 
fetch('/users/invite',{
	credentials: 'same-origin',
	method: 'POST',
	headers: { 'Content-Type': 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=utf-8' },
	body: `fkey=${fkey().fkey}&UserId=${WHO}&RoomId=${1}`
});
 
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Go to chat.stack for that user
 
well when it is active. wanna run that with the appropriate id and see if you get it?
 
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8:51 PM
It's a 404
 
potential spam hole if it does allow it, but also a neat way to get people into the chats if they're talking smack on the comments.
 
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Yea, running arbitrary code I found on the internet while at work is what I do best
 
@Jhawins well it's not arbitrary, and you understand what it says :P
 
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For now
 
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302
Location: /error?aspxerrorpath=/users/invite
 
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8:53 PM
I have no confidence that this account will ever show up tho. Like I said it is half Jhawins somehow
 
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This account has privledges lmao
 
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But I literally just created it, had to pick a username etc
 
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Can you see anything like deleted or something on it with your rep?
 
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Kay, this account is fubar
 
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chat.stackoverflow.com itself is a 500.
 
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8:57 PM
@MadaraUchiha what the hell is this user I just made? If you get bored stackoverflow.com/users/9655392/jhawins-dirty-sock It has some notifications as if it is my real account Jhawins, as well as milestones etc. But I just chose the initial username 10min ago. It also 500s going to chat etc. Just lots of weirdness around this user
 
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If you don't feel like it, don't, or if you want to delete it, do. Idc. Just really curious now
 
Lets say I have 1 million lines of TSA claim data. And I have to get the average claims per month per airport. Is this something D3 can do?
Or is there a better library?
This will be put into a bar graph.
 
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D3 is a charting library for visuals right? Or does it actually handle data manipulation for you
 
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Afaik D3 is only about that bar graph, not getting the data to use
 
Oh interesting.
 

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