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01:00
@Meredith a year ago select stores in ontario started. but it's still very rare
and a year ago it wasn't really a thing
That's crazy
Where do you buy beer then
@Meredith It's pretty safe to assume that he doesn't get any reference ever
You can even buy beer at Target here
liquor and beer is government controlled. so you go to liquor stores owned by the gov, or beer stores licensed by them
Why don't they license the beer to grocery stores
01:01
they started too
as I said above 😀
but it's a slow rollout, because you have to be certified to sell alcohol
and not every store wants to pay to have cashiers certified
Just require them to pay for it
Paying for stuff is overrated
why not require them to sell certain pasta brands?
it's their choice what they sell.
or you talking about the staff? because that'd probably be a big nogo for a lot of people
what store doesn't want to sell beer?
user9107868
This is so not relavent
01:02
@SterlingArcher paying for stuff is for rich people
We even have grocery store owned liqour stores right outside the grocery store cuz they can't sell liquor in the actual grocery store
Booze is so good for business
Every business
@KendallFrey nice
You can buy beer at the movie theater
I should say, I think the rest of Canada is the same. but all of these things are for sure Ontario specific.
Does your beer come in bags?
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01:04
I don't really know the liquor laws in other provinces other than legal age
@Meredith lol
no, but wine does.
some*
Anybody interested in a $100 wine voucher? ($100 off a $160+ case of wine)
the bags in a box tho.
I don't drink wine
user9107868
NOT RELAVANT
Oh we have bagged/boxed wine too
besides milk, we have the same (basically) packaging as you guys
@TheOneWhoMade please stop telling us what is and isn't relevant to the room, it's annoying. We come here everyday we don't always talk about const and for loops... we know that shit.
It's rude
If software developers can't talk about beer, what's the point
Every node developer has a favorite IPA
IPAs are gross
01:06
IPAs are delicious
I haven't found a single IPA I've enjoyed
Apparently it's a genetic thing like cilantro
Is cilantro soapy to you
Yes we know the rules
I don't.
Get out Liggage
user9107868
01:08
*Luggage
user9107868
@Luggage thank you
His real name is Liggage, Luggage is a nickname
You're annoying and I'm about to kick you
Establish yourself first
Then you can joke
Maybe.
I'll establish my foot in your ass
01:09
Mibye.
@KendallFrey STOP SAYING MY THINGS
s/NS/HS/
Do you guys strive for immutability in your code?
I don't know about 'strive for'. I do it sometimes when I need to
No, I strive for quality. Immutability is a pathway.
We have heavy Object.assign({}, state) usage, so that configurations, and data isn't mutated
01:10
I forgot what mutability was years ago
user9107868
The path to hell is paved with micro-optimizations.
Mmm I wouldn't really put mutability and optimization together
Typically has no performance effect
@SterlingArcher But really though bite the bullet and start using Immutable.js. Having an actual decent library is so much better than fucking around with native objects
cloning certainly can if you do it a lot
01:12
@SterlingArcher if it's in a large part of the application, it certainly can
Deep clones sure, but shallow copies?
how many times are we talking?
Hard to say
enough to make a clone army
m'lemon
omg that's your nephews nickname now
nailed it
01:13
shallow copy?
dude, didn't we already go over this?
mlem
That's a cat noise dummy this is cringy
well he's like 4 days old. so he's basically just making cat noises
mlem seems fitting
i think 'shallow copy' is better
I forgot our little babies are twins
That's crazy
01:15
yea, I didn't know until I logged in saturday and saw your message starred
@SterlingArcher she's not your accomplishment, settle down
was like, hot damn, your bro and my bro had kids at the same time
Kids are gross
Maybe they are the same person. Maybe you two are brothers
no u
@Luggage fucking crazy coincidence is that I did have another brother who died (I never knew him) whose name was Jordan
but like for sure dead, not younger than me living in the USA
01:17
@rlemon you forget about cryptosleep
& they didn't name you in honor of him?
Salvador Dali style
no, that'd be weird
user9107868
hey anyone know what language Cap is programmed in?
!!tell TheOneWhoMade help
01:18
@TheOneWhoMade Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
source is there
also you know this, you've run a version of the bot
user9107868
$$ban rlemon
user9107868
@TheOneWhoMade I can't mindjail rlemon, they're an owner.
4
rekt
01:19
um
We told you not to do that
posted on March 07, 2018 by Gibson Fahnestock

This release comes with a lot of big changes. There are updates to V8, libuv, and ICU, a bugfix in npm, and support for building with OpenSSL 1.1.0. Notable Changes deps: update V8 to 6.2.414.46 (Michaël Zasso) #16413 revert ABI breaking changes in V8 6.2 (Anna Henningsen) #16413 upgrade libuv to 1.19.1 (cjihrig) #18260 re land npm 5.6.0 (Myles Borins) #18625 ICU 60 bump (Steven R. Loomis) #1

please no more trolling
and I don't wanna join your room
01:22
@Feeds You bore me.
feel free to remove it
> HOME FAQ JOBS MEDIA FEEDBACK HAT FLAMETHROWER
lmao
LMAO
@KendallFrey you'd think someone with is money wouldn't use squarespace
but here we are..
01:24
lol squarespace?
check the source.
indeed it is
i.imgur.com/Er5SlfD.gifv white people are bonkers
you are white you sasquatch
@SterlingArcher baha
01:26
Same
i identify as martian
i'll take my roadster, mr. musk
what's wrong with squarespace? besides the obvious "we can just host it ourselves because we know how"
@Luggage that's how Meteor trapped clients
Oh you don't want hosting with us? Too bad good luck getting your app running by yourself sucker
nothing I guess. just seems like someone with his technical knowhow and pull wouldn't use a template website host
@rlemon actually technically I'm hispanic
If I started a business I would qualify as minority owned
user9107868
01:28
@rlemon you took that out of context
no, you're big and hairy and you drop a lot of food
I'm white
well, i was thinking for non-technical people that did other businesses
@Luggage ohh yea, then it's fine. at least they don't spam my ads like Wix
but for Elon.. dude. at the very least pay an intern to write it for you
user9107868
https://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/41520716#41520716
https://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/41520718#41520718
01:29
Honey
we see you trading w3schools links in a back alley of SO chat.
:opens coat: hey you guys want some w3schools?
Why do people think we always have a JS topic ready to go?
> This is our chance!
01:32
I think I would have preferred having cheap windows phone which you could upgrade and downgrade then this Android nonsense. Literally my last Samsung didn't receive updates for even 2 years.
I kind of wish windows phone didn't flop. I rather enjoyed the live updating tiles
^ that to but
But apparently it was just buggy af
This begs the question: which android phone? They are not created equal. Most are created frustrating.
I like my phone
I have no complaints
01:33
@Luggage I even own a Nexus officially I think it is 24 months
@Luggage sort of like back in the day where the only good android phone was a motorola droid series?
All the others were cheap af and laggy to hell
@Meredith what phone do you have
yea. i had an OG Droid
I had a droid turbo and it was good
I have a pixel now
Pixel 1 I guess
i have a pixel 2 xl. I like it a lot, but sometimes wish i got the smaller one.
01:34
I'm pretty interested in the new Pixelbook
I'll probably get the pixel 2 soon. or maybe if they come out with a new one when I pull the trigger
I like @Luggage's photos
Have you guys seen that yet?
Yeah never get an XL phone
they're real nice 😉
01:34
pixelbook looks what to overpriced.
nevermind it's $1000
yea and it's so fast, too. the only phone i can whip out of my pocket and actually snap a quick photo
I don't think I'd mind an XL. it's jacket season here most of the year
user9107868
@Luggage Im sorry is there something wrong with that w3schools?
My laptop is an hp spectre
01:34
only in the summer would it suck.
I love it
the focusing and such, i mean
only knowing one language sucks
Good specs, good build quality, runs linux well
time to go watch a tutorial in french :/
01:35
My phone is literally more experience then my laptop but that is another issue entirely.
@TheOneWhoMade w3schools has a notorious history of teaching bad practices and not being relevant with modern standard code
Are you on Oreo meredith
Yeah
user9107868
@SterlingArcher I am using its code editor.
@TheOneWhoMade Mostly no, but some other sources like MDN and better. w3schools can have out of date or just wrong info sometimes.
01:36
I don't like the notification dots. It seems like a repeated/unneeded feature
@TheOneWhoMade jsfiddle.net
Why not just use the JS console?
much better
Or jsfiddle, that's much more verbose
codesandbox.io is another alt. useful for setting up quick react demos
user9107868
01:36
@SterlingArcher I have found that the w3schools editor works the best with chrome.
I like jsbin
I thought you were having issues with codesandbox.io
user9107868
Others do not actually represent the true result
they do
01:37
Oh yeah
The reason why I decided not to get a pixelbook:
im gonna need a reproducible example of that
7th gen processor
@SterlingArcher it's weird, but the best I've seen that lets you install npm packages.
@rlemon oh nice!
user9107868
@SterlingArcher I will get you one this weekend.
01:38
@Meredith if it was similarly priced to the chromebooks hell yeah
It should be
My $160 chromebook is still chugging along like a monster and it's like 5 years old
Oh not the pixelbook nvm
@TheOneWhoMade I'll hold you to that
@Meredith do you have notification dots enabled if you are using the stock launcher
01:39
what is that
Just the dots on an icon on the home screen?
Yeah
Its the answer to notification numbers in iOS
which IMO are retarded
my kudu is 4 years old now. still chugging along
almost no problems.
Just a colored dot in the top right
I don't see the point
But I'm usually good with my notifications
01:40
Exactly its stupid
I much prefer iOS or the old samsung way which displays an actual number
Oh
I don't care about the number
I don't need to see how many unread emails I have
A number sounds nice. Or the option of one. But I don't personally care or event WANT a number.
I hate stock android also for the borderline stupid audio control interface.
Seriously I don't ever want to change my ringer except to silent.
I use google play music
ohh that kinda audio
I don't care about ring tones. vibrate is good enough
If you tap the volume control, it doesn't change the volume
So you can tap the arrow and adjust the media volume there
01:42
Seriously I shouldn't have to install "Media Volume Only" to prevent my audio from adjusting ringer
instead of holding it down and adjusting the ringer volume
its a setting on Samsung devices not stock android
But honestly we have so many test devices at work
Don't fuck around with samsung or motorola or anything like that
@William I have ringer, alarm, and media volume controls on stock
Forget about the software, the phones themselves are just awkward to use
01:44
@rlemon you must have never used an iPhone or Windows PHone
I liked my 2014 Moto X.
nope
the idea is that media volume should always be adjusted unless you put the phone on silent or manually adjust ringer/alarm
I should probably sell my S7 edge
that is how it works on windows phones and iPhone
I also don't care about the email number but I do care about the number for the other 30 apps installed. Some apps I just want the number which updates periodically others I want notifications and other a I want both. Android doesn't do this and isn't nearly as helpful
01:46
how do you feel about android?
Unless it's my email or texting app, I don't care about its notifications
for someone that owns more Android devices then iPhones I think I should have some opinion
> We will celebrate Wartsila Safety Day on March 15th, 2018. This year’s theme is “Road Safety- Driving Safety in Vehicles and other Means of Transport”.
Uh oh, we already had a motorcycle fatality recorded this year
My entire company knows I ride xD
Days since employee died on a motorcycle: 1
01:50
Android should have copied literally everthing the iPhone did but instead we have this carrier mess with most of the phones never being upgradable and also costing just as much as Apple's stuff
Heck copy the Windows Phone(parts)
I hate getting so deep into a program I can't turn around but not having the skills to finish it so you'll need to be helped a ton
Either I take 6 steps up a mountain or 3 steps back and 5 steps forward
It helps to make smaller projects
The thing is
it's so small it's laughable
What is it
01:53
I haven't even broken 200 lines
It's a 2d javascript game
@rlemon JASON is out github.com/xk/JASON
just push through, get it to a point where you can't fix it any further. then rewrite the thing 9 times.
at the end you'll hate the product, but you'll have learned tonnes
Now I want to do one for JavaScript..... with Let it go or hakuna matata.
@William well done
ohh
no I mean the name is out not that I made it
01:55
2012
Baha men version of hakuna matata though
not yours :D
wow baha men thats a thorwback
@JakeNBake it may be that you're taking the wrong approach to writing the game itself. when I was first starting with canvas (and even now) it's much different than writing regular webapps. a re-write could be the solve-all (and easier if it's as small as you say)

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