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18:00
But, I guess I'm on the wrong side.
I use "id"
@KamilSolecki You think just because you're an RO, you can make these jokes. I'm calling for a removal, I'll see you on GitHub.
woah congrats @KamilSolecki
didn't realize you were made an RO
I don't see any issue with it just being id or Id
@Loktar wee thanks
@ssube which one do you use?
18:01
depends on the day, but mostly Dynamo
FROM Foo f
JOIN Person p ON f.Person = p.Id
postgres' JSON is pretty dope though, if you want to call that NoSQL
-- or, if i need more context to "person"
FROM Foo f
JOIN Person p ON f.Owner = p.Id
oh hah now I see the pinned post.
18:02
Old people often have trouble with their eyesight
@hilli_micha he'd be better off not to wear the shades indoors
@rlemon What am I even looking at?
but he wants to look cool
@KendallFrey a car that makes you go sleepy
@hilli_micha my monitors are just toooo looong
I have the chat spread across them
(I don't)
@rlemon Ah, the Cosbymobill
Loktar is the Corey Hart of indoors.
@ssube Yeah. Mixing relationals and non-relationals. How dope. That is a very dangerous game to play.
why jsx is speed then html ??
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@Allenph lol wat
18:04
@AlishaSharma Java is basic for htm
@rlemon took me a second to realize that was a weiner
@ssube I already have problems with people dumping objects into text columns when they shouldn't to begin with.
postgres' JSON doesn't break any of the ACID guarantees of the main db, afaik
@AlishaSharma v
@Allenph are you familiar with how postgres handles json?
18:04
no, it's just a column on a table. it's all ACIDed up
@rlemon crap i just remembered I broke my ksp
Oh, maybe I have jumped to conclusions too quickly?
it's a real column, it doesn't sit outside the database
@ssube i gotta look into it, I didn't even know it was a thing
@Loktar poor little amish kid
18:06
@ssube the json methods are so weird to use tho
@Loktar true story
@rlemon rather that than mongo :(
@rlemon I have "Collapse oneboxes by default" checked, but they are expanded by default
@rlemon I have understood that representation on html in object in simply called jsx that babel transform gives am I true guys ?
@Shmiddty try saving the options page again and refreshing
18:07
heh I forgot not everyone has collapsed on boxes
it's a little tacked on vs a good nosql database, like dynamo, but so much better than anything hacky like mongo
@AlishaSharma are you drunk?
language barrier
someone post a onebox thing pl0x
18:07
it makes the chat so much cleaner, and I don't feel bad posting random stuff
he/she's been fine (well, understandable) in the past. @Luggage
!!giphy your mom
haha @rlemon nop I don't have any idea about it it's my guess
18:07
ok that didn't work
@towc Command your does not exist. (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
@AlishaSharma you need to take a bit more time reviewing your messages. they're not making complete sense.
stop the meme bus
!!undo
!!undo
18:08
@towc I'm afraid I can't let you do that, towc
towc for RO so he can !!undo and trash his own mistakes. And kick himself
every time you ask, 10 more years
@rlemon I used babel.... few days ago I gave html like on left side and it gave me object chane of element so that's why .... How can I learn basic of jsx
!!> Math.floor(Math.round(3.5/7 - 10%3))
@Wietlol 0
is jsfiddle down?
ow, nvm
not for me
"This KFC is closed"
@KendallFrey your turn
18:12
whaaaaat, jsfiddle finally added a dark theme?
nice
did you enjoy the video i sent you. it had a fit in it.
you better have, I spent weeks working up the courage to link it to you
ohh shit
@hilli_micha gosh yeah, it was lovely
user image
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@Loktar @KendallFrey @FlorianMargaine
@Luggage well, the site loaded but it always gave me a 404 could not load resource
but it was unrelated and seems to come all the time
18:14
Thanks mr @rlemon
The simpsons predicted the future again guys!
@rlemon have you heard of 2s day? Tuesday 2/2/22
@hilli_micha I closed it after about 3 seconds
I bet it's a damn good reference
18:15
@Shmiddty does the week index start at 0 or 1
please do not close the videos I link to you until they have payed in their entirety
I just don't know what to
@towc "Birthplace of Elon Musk"
@KamilSolecki please ban michael for spamming me
@KendallFrey nice
18:16
@rlemon If Sunday is 0, then Tuesday is 2
@ndugger no u
nick is making me frown right now, you know what to do
@Shmiddty only if sunday is 0
@Shmiddty do weeks start on sunday or monday?
@hilli_micha turn that frown upside down
18:16
Monday.
@KamilSolecki plz kick me too, for solidarity
some of our clients at work even use tuesday or saturday
no, it takes more muscles to frown than it does to smile and I'm on a diet.
@ssube does it matter? we can have either. Sunday = 0 or 7, Monday = 1, etc
@hilli_micha pretty sure having sex with a deity is a capital offense
18:17
I guess considering the room, we should go off JS
weeks start on sunday, and labels are 0 index'd
@KendallFrey bull, Zeus had sex with everyone in sight, I'm just returning the favor.
please don't talk about sex in chat
!!s/capital/capitol/
@KamilSolecki @hilli_micha pretty sure having sex with a deity is a capitol offense (source)
That was so brilliant
18:19
@ndugger k, will use the term "gender" instead
ohh Kendall, I wanna gender you up
@KendallFrey n ^ (1 / n) approaches 1 as n approaches infinity, right? Is there a name for this equation?
I cry when I gender.
@KendallFrey spoiler alert, they're the same thing
Yeah, that fits.
18:20
@hilli_micha during or after?
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A: Rules for rounding (positive and negative numbers)

Ilmari Karonen"Round to nearest integer" is completely unambiguous, except when the fractional part of the number to be rounded happens to be exactly $\frac 1 2$. In that case, some kind of tie-breaking rule must be used. Wikipedia (currently) lists six deterministic tie-breaking rules in more or less common ...

anyone ever had issues with this?
make sure you drink lots of water
dehydration is a serious issue
@Shmiddty what purpose?
@Shmiddty I don't think it has a special name
18:21
@Shmiddty None that I know of, but I'm 90% sure I ran into it not too long ago
"a number raised to its reciprocal" is the name of the formula
seems like Js uses "round up" while other programming environments use "nearest even number" while maths say "away from 0"
you can call it "the kendall formula" to make things shorter
@towc "nth-root of n" seems easier to communicate
@Shmiddty yeah ok
if it works for you
18:23
@Wietlol Nobody rounds to "nearest even number"
You're thinking of banker's rounding
C-harp does
> Rounds a value to the nearest integer or to the specified number of fractional digits.
Console.WriteLine("-0.4 : " + Math.Round(-0.4)); // 0
Console.WriteLine("-0.5 : " + Math.Round(-0.5)); // 0
Console.WriteLine("-0.6 : " + Math.Round(-0.6)); // -1
Console.WriteLine("-1.4 : " + Math.Round(-1.4)); // -1
Console.WriteLine("-1.5 : " + Math.Round(-1.5)); // -2
Console.WriteLine("-1.6 : " + Math.Round(-1.6)); // -2
Console.WriteLine("-2.4 : " + Math.Round(-2.4)); // -2
Console.WriteLine("-2.5 : " + Math.Round(-2.5)); // -2
Console.WriteLine("-2.6 : " + Math.Round(-2.6)); // -3
> Console.WriteLine("-0.5 : " + Math.Round(-0.5)); // 0
Console.WriteLine("-1.5 : " + Math.Round(-1.5)); // -2
does toFixed round or truncate?
@Shmiddty rounds
@KendallFrey im pretty sure it kinda does
18:26
it also does based on specification
IEEE 754-2008 (previously known as IEEE 754r) was published in August 2008 and is a significant revision to, and replaces, the IEEE 754-1985 floating point standard. The revision extended the previous standard where it was necessary, added decimal arithmetic and formats, tightened up certain areas of the original standard which were left undefined, and merged in IEEE 854 (the radix-independent floating-point standard). In a few cases, where stricter definitions of binary floating-point arithmetic might be performance-incompatible with some existing implementation, they were made optional. ��2...
@Wietlol -1 is not the nearest even number to -1.4
btw kendall, would you say rounding "0.4999999...." is as ambiguous as rounding "0.5"? I get that they're the same number, so it's the same amount of ambiguity, but maybe there's something else to talk about
rounding -0.5 to 0 and -1.5 to -2 is common
@KendallFrey 1/2 rounding
the rules only apply to exact halves
numbers > -1 are often rounded toward 0 and < -1 rounded away
18:26
@towc I don't know what you're trying to say/ask
has nothing to do with even/odd
because both numbers are equally near
@ssube for js indeed
the N is near
@KendallFrey how do you round "0.4999999..." to the nearest integer?
that's not specific to JS
18:27
but not for languages like C-harp
@towc there is no unique nearest integer
you just demonstrated that c# does that
@KendallFrey ok, that answers it
@ssube I don't think that's a rule in any situation ever
18:28
there is "round up"
lukas graham is basically talented andy milonakis
it rounds to even numbers
by IEEE 754 specs
Rounding a numerical value means replacing it by another value that is approximately equal but has a shorter, simpler, or more explicit representation; for example, replacing $23.4476 with $23.45, or the fraction 312/937 with 1/3, or the expression √2 with 1.414. Rounding is often done to obtain a value that is easier to report and communicate than the original. Rounding can also be important to avoid misleadingly precise reporting of a computed number, measurement or estimate; for example, a quantity that was computed as 123,456 but is known to be accurate only to within a few hundred units is...
@ndugger been enjoying him and Julia Michaels for softer music lately
18:29
literally every option is in use somewhere, rounding is almost as fucked as timezones
nah, date time stuff is more fucked up
it changes from time to time
when rounding, I just take the third decimal digit and multiply it by 3
Rounding is a beautiful thing.
@ssube Where does it mention that?
works every time
18:30
like how turkey was like "lets delay going back to summer time for 2 weeks this year"
I round by doing (x + 1) | 0
@ssube every time I think of timezones I stop and have a chuckle about Newfoundland and Labrador
> ohh hey, we just gonna offset 30 minutes, k.
There are also 15 minute offsets
in asia or something
omg my boss is printing a bridge for his trains
it's unfinished in the background
I had a mini heart attack thinking that was part of my print
what is that a train for ants
18:33
HO scale
he has HO trains and garden scale
Sterling's favorite scale
@KendallFrey dont forget daylight saving time
1:87 seems generous
and the various regions that always use it or never use it
or that decide they want to use something else
18:37
The look on Joe Rogan's face is priceless.
Is that the guy who tried to take roids and just ended up redder?
@hilli_micha oi you dont really have time for PUBG during the week, do you?
probably just high
@KamilSolecki I don't think during a time you'd be available.
18:39
@Luggage is that scott manley :P
I can play games here at 8pm~ during the weekdays on days I don''t have class
That's Joe Rogan
@hilli_micha what time is it there now?
1:40pm
18:40
we're in the 6th dimension? TIL
@KendallFrey thought, that coupler I made and you saw
@hilli_micha oh then yeah right
and evil is 2D, huh
that'll make it easy to spot the bad guys
how hard do you think that'd be to do on openscad
18:41
damn
it would be handy if I had a program that I just entered the diameter of the two openings and had it do the rest
@rlemon whatcha tryna do?
but openscad is .. well probably not that hard, but it fucks with me
@KendallFrey I find it interesting that n ^ (1 / n) has the same value at 1 and ∞
@KamilSolecki printing attachments so I can hook all my tools to my shopvac
@rlemon do you have a pic?
18:44
screwdriver?
@Shmiddty Except it doesn't have a value "at infinity"
@rlemon Make a feature
@rlemon ohnoes, it wants an account
so make one
they're free
and onshape is good shit
18:45
<3
but yea, I'll upload it to github
lol, that's not a vac
that's a wood planer
whatever
it's a vac now
got an onshape acc already :P
so yea, I wanna make a way to generate those
@rlemon the zoom is backwards and that is extremely discomfiting
openscad is the tool, but I thought onshape let you make parameters, too
oh yeah you can just use the configurations
that's probably the simplest
could use variables too
18:49
@rlemon I mean I have access to solidworks that I know how to use
or a custom feature
so if you need help generating models
I could probably help
I'll have to look more into onshapes features
these types of attachments are not cheap :P
you could make another etsy product @Loktar
With that niche of a market, he would need to invest plenty of time in advertising in the right places
eh, etsy is a bit more crafty with products
I'm going to stick the business card holder area for a while
18:51
milk that cash cow
@KamilSolecki make to order.
I don't see a downside
@KendallFrey
@Loktar FROM CARD HOLDERS?!
@KamilSolecki yea
damn.
props
18:52
Maybe I'll setup an Etsy store for them :p
@KamilSolecki no, real ones
how many have you sold, if I might ask
improved card holders
^ orders that I shipped today
18:53
still have like 17 more though (many orders contain multiple)
it's actually quite a bit of work, still wondering if it's worth the money
@Loktar that's dope man
I want a break after this week lol
Etsy takes off the top right? No up front fees?
@KamilSolecki 100 or so?
18:53
@rlemon nothing up front, I don't even know how their pay structure works tbh
I paid $25 to them earlier this month
and .20 everytime I relist
Ahh a listing cost.
@KendallFrey lol
I figured they'd just take a % of the sale
18:54
but the payout is really awesome in how it works
first 90 days you have a 3 day hold
but you can take the money out whenever otherwise
:41327431 I got 500 tiny balls in the mail today
google adsense for example requires like $100 before they even make a deposit
and only once a month at that
etsy you can have $20 in your account and after the initial 3 day holding period withdraw whenever (or just setup scheduled deposits which I did)
you need 10 more products and one worker to do most of the work
What level of quality printer is required to run a niche printing business?
hah.. yeah I've designed another one @Luggage
the issue is I think I need more printers
18:57
@TravisWhite the $200 ender 2 is good enough
right now I'm barely keeping up, granted i know it will come in waves
Imagine if you could sell on etsy from factorio
I should die down soon enough, but each one takes like 5 hours total if you factor in each part
@KendallFrey like sell steel plates?
@Loktar lol remember when you died
18:57
LOL @both
@Luggage Ahh really, I thought it'd be considerably more
do you print multiple at a time?
@Luggage or satellites
@Luggage yeah, it consists of 4 parts so I usually do 2 signs on an ender which takes 3 hours, maybe 2 holders on the other ender around 2.5 hours, and 3 bases on the cr-10 which is about 4 hours
18:58
then I have to do a batch of 10 sold signs in the mix on an ender at some point
when I go to bed I try to do like 4 bases on the cr10 since that takes around 6 hours
Are people ever surprised at the 'texture' of a 3d print?
nope
The pic in etsy shows it, but you never explicitly say
only good reviews so far
That wasn't what that woman was griping about that you told me?
18:59
I delivered some during Christmas if you recall
Who said 'the quality wasn't what I was expecting?'
everyone loved them

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