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02:00
I'd also like to play a game that can compare with the first Deus Ex again
Morrowind is to Elder Scrolls as GTA 3 was to GTA series.
@hilli_micha yeah I agree
Morrowind was badass
it looks like poo now, but still fun
I remember staring at the water at the time, it was so fucking awesome lol
Yeah, but the ugly graphics and the weird combat where you do nothing but whiff for 20 levels is part of the charm for me.
I could download some HD Retexture Pack and other mods to 'fix' those things, but imo, it wouldn't feel right.
I enjoy that, to play Morrowind and actually get anywhere, you need to sink a few hours in each session.
oh man Serious Sam the Second Encounter
now there was a game
I hated the Serious Sam series with a fierce passion
not sure why, but those games just didn't click for me
02:02
i tried replaying serious sam and just couldn't recapture whatever it was that let me play through it the first time
the first time was fun
02:15
for me it was a LAN game. you can turn the settings up to something insane and have 8 or so people in co-op
200% enemies, 200% damage etc
System Link on the OG Xbox was LAN for poor people, and it was rad.
I never got into SS2, SS3 or SSFE
just the second encounter
@KevinB 8 minutes late on this live stream. psh, vaporware
02:36
@KamilSolecki a what container?
@hsimah they released most or all of them for VR recently
95% sure he meant your DI container
oh, that makes sense. "container" makes me think docker
and now it's all kinds of f'd
the stream that is
@YimboSlyce We're going as fast as we can. Technical difficulties
trailer is available now
whoa. trailer shows a base i've never seen, i wonder if there's actually a 3rd degrassi base?
02:48
4th?
oh, didn't count the island
"eatmydiction1"
lol, trailer with no audio
worked for me, the one int he tweet
the one on the livestream. they fixed it
I think that old degassi base at the end of the trailer was just fictional for that trailer
oh, i must be like 5min behind
that just ran
02:55
Why am I watching this awkwardness?
I know diction. He’s alright
Not personally, but I know of him
03:49
morning room.
04:01
Hi!
04:57
ECMAscript, a wholly owned subsidiary of The Trump Organization, was created for the purposes of using Javascript to monitor internet usage. The specifications issued by ECMAscript have secretly added code that sends identifiable meta data to Donald Trump himself. Used in conjunction with chemtrails, any person on the planet can be manipulated to perform the will of the Donald. So, if you see a chemtrail, stay off your computer. At least that's what my non-research has turned up — Jaromanda X 2 mins ago
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hello
$( "#clickme" ).click(function() {
  $( "#book" ).animate({
    opacity: 0.25,
    left: "+=50",
    height: "toggle"
  }, 5000, function() {
    // Animation complete here.
  });
});
what is the difference between the first animation and animation to complete here?
uhm.. what
.animate to do some animate and function() { //Animation complete here} also do that So what the difference between the two animation @KevinB
the second is a comment
inside of the callback
the comment describes when that callback gets called
05:51
The connection is being established on chrome but why not with firefox?
Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at ws://localhost:35729/livereload
const LIVERELOAD_HOST = 'localhost';
const LIVERELOAD_PORT = 35729;
const connection = new WebSocket(`ws://${LIVERELOAD_HOST}:${LIVERELOAD_PORT}/livereload`);
 
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07:08
wtf is detective pikachu
07:20
the one above is the one i killed earlier...
@Mosho It's a pikachu that has the job of an investigative policeman. Duh..
thanks
Anytime
@KevinB from which game is that?
07:42
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Q: how to calculate x,y and z values from JSON

SMKI have json data format given below. From this data I need to display group11 emotions only in 3D charts.So i need x ,y and z value.how to get these values please give me some logic.we can use anything from this given json. JSON { "status": "success", "result": { "duration": "15034.88",...

anyone answer this question please
that question is not yours unless you have a 2nd account. Also it is a bit hard to read the variables
var counter4=0;
var val4 =0;
var val4minute =0;
...
its not mine.related to my question thats y posted
also, that question is doomed at its core
i.e. it says: "Tell me what do I want to graph, because I don't know"
TIL "debug.inlineValues": true in vscode
life = complete
why would they keep this behind a flag
07:51
need z value,this is my scenario
well yeah
but you can make Z virtually anything related
if x is string and y is string repeated count then what is z?
there isn't a set rule saying what z will be
its... up to you.
that json containing this things only
07:53
@MohanSrinivas Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
@KamilSolecki yes im asking that logic only
how to alculate z value
I know, but if you read what I said.....
you need to know what you want Z to be first
duh
@ShrekOverflow $60? screw that :o
Why do I need to pay so much for a figurine of myself?
@KamilSolecki json containg string only so how i ll get 3rd value apart from string and count?
@MohanSrinivas You can alculate z value using a omputer
07:57
@Neil yes but this should be related to that string i mean emotion right!
@Neil please read that post i shared
@KarelG subnautica
the larger creature in that screenshot isn’t even the largest
I have heard of that game. Sometimes you have to shit in ur pants.
08:10
Na come one.. I agree it is scary.. but not THAT scary.
why do browsers/engines run your code in the same process as rendering
or rather, why does an endless busy loop block rendering
basically it boils down to JS's single-threaded design nature. The such called UI-Thread within a browser handles both, UI and JS updates / cycles.
the single threaded thing does not say anything about the browser
just your own code
which must be the case, because JavaScript is by design single-threaded
rendering has nothing to do with javascript
stop regurgitating
08:16
of course it has. The Browser / DOM could not handle it otherwise
if you have a single-threaded language/code which heavily can influence rendering
the browser is very much multi-threaded
it would be just as easy to have rendering separate from running js on a page
it probably could, but then every single action you can trigger from JS must be async/callbacked. basically every DOM/Node method
true
but even than it would stay single-threaded, just preemptive multitasking like we have it now (sort of)
but then again
why not
history I guess
I guess it boils down to that, is how this works just due to history, or is there a real design consideration
but you know what
it's not even that
because that busy loop stops scrolling too
08:20
Of course, nobody thought about this heavy influence of Javascript back then (I guess). But anyways, even if they would re-invent the wheel today, I don't want to imagine what mess it would be to re-write the DOM and the Node stuff to work async all together
it would make even more sense for node to have all the potentially non blocking API's not block
I remember a line from Doug The Crock which basically goes like.. "If a piece of JavaScript executes for more than 1 second you did it wrong"
@jAndy I think it's definitely something to consider before putting people on mars
even tho this statement is heavily wrong nowadays, it shows how the browser concept works
yeah I have some work done in the browser and when I scale the data it works with it naturally becomes slow
08:23
but the good news is, we can make every async ourselfs within Javascript and create run-away script timers
slowing the entire page even though it's done in the background
even if we have heavy code, we can basically put that out of the UI thread and return
I should probably use a web worker
OR .. use web-workers
indeed
the only semi-thread-alternative
Can someone suggest a good tool to digest logs? We're currently using CloudWatch and the search capabilities are annoyingly limited/buggy
08:33
@Mosho there is too much interconnection between handling the UI and how js works. It relies on what is present in the UI. If you want to separate the threads (one for UI and another one for js), any interaction to the UI by the js has to be passed to other thread. It is not worth of it.
Hey would anyone of you help me write a small piece of code? Well i assume its a small piece of code
I am not so familiar with js, I am more into php and sql. I know the structure of what i want and probably how it should be done, But i find js their syntaxes hard
@jAndy What if my piece of javascript is waitMoreThan1Second();?
@KarelG performance wise it is quite meaningless
I would think
but maybe
@Tomm You'd be doing yourself a favor to try to learn how to write it yourself
And I'd do you a disservice to write it for you for the same reasons
But make an attempt at it, and we'll tell you what you're doing wrong
sigh, thats true though
im trying to do it, but I am having trouble with it cause its js and jquery combined
08:44
you're not really doing yourself any favors using jquery to start with
but understandably you may not have much choice
jup
I mean structure wise its basically the same as my php i know the way of writing it
i just dont know how to write it
@Neil Waiting is not executing by definition
let me just ask away broad here then, is it possible to make an if statement that checks .html value and rewrites it ?
well break it down into pieces.. if you wanted to change the color of all div tags, you'd first need to figure out how to retrieve all div tags, and then you'd need to figure out how to loop, and finally you'd need to figure out how to change the color
@Tomm that's a little vague, but more or less yes
@OliverSalzburg well I was mostly kidding anyway. a thread can sleep, but it should never "wait"
> But i find js their syntaxes hard
hmm you should check PROLOG (had a project of it last summer) or even C-LISP (Florian works frequently with that)
08:50
is that a bad thing to say? I mean its true though im not going to say i do
😀
I am unable to do lisp in vim or ST without plugin
do you even use bf, bro?
bf?
brainfuck
that is not a real language. It was created as a joke
08:53
bf's serious man
you don't even bf, bro?
i recall @copy has an editor of it
* digs in history *
but is it in it?
And then there's lolcode.
HAI 1.2
CAN HAS STDIO?
PLZ OPEN FILE "LOLCATS.TXT"?
    AWSUM THX
        VISIBLE FILE
    O NOES
        INVISIBLE "ERROR!"
KTHXBYE
@KarelG common lisp syntax is one of the simplest there is
much much much simpler than C-like languages
09:00
I sometimes forget a ) and has problems to count it :P
the IDE helps with it, but in vim ?
@KarelG there are some vim plugins for that
or some vim options
like you can highlight matching parens
... did not have heard of that vim option
there is a plethora of vim options ...
@KarelG there's great vim stuff for lisp
@KarelG We don't need no stinking CSS!
09:03
to be fair though, SLIME is pretty much what kept me on emacs for common lisp
@Neil somehow i like such notes.
even the RFC memo's style does not disturb me
It's SFW aside from a little foul language
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sorry this is mistake
> This site doesn't care if you're on an iMac or a motherfucking Tamagotchi.
can you display it on that device? :P
09:06
I'm sure someone has tried
@Neil except that website sucks balls on wide monitors
does it display little characters ?
I recall a stylesheet rule where someone has set the font-size of h3, h4 on same level, like
h3, h4 {
   font-size: 12px;
}
I was seriously fucked up when I discovered that.
@FlorianMargaine I suppose had he added a centered div of width 1024, it'd have sort of ruined the point of the web page though
but yeah
@KarelG no, it's just that the text pans over the full width
ah right.
09:10
@Neil not really, minimal CSS helps
lol look at the page source of that website
<!-- yes, I know...wanna fight about it? -->
2 js script tags
hmm
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
ok
morning
a lot more interesting than the state of js thing
@rlemon that script is the best thing you've ever done
What script?
drag n drop images in the chat
09:24
You know you can just paste the URL of the original image though, right?
what URL?
it's a screenshot
the script uploads images to imgur and links them here
Oh I see
That's how I do that :D
oh that's nice
@Mosho imo a very interesting is react demand vs react knowledge
When it works, yes :D Sometimes it's over the API limit :(
09:27
@KamilSolecki yeah, a little surprising
since react seems to have become synonymous with web dev
at least at the tryhard level
ehm
that last chart
is that dev like/dislike ?
editors?
"that last chart" = that blue with white bars
I can't believe there's that much of people using vim
why not?
I use it for all config stuff
09:31
@KarelG yeah, like/dislike
@Neoares Maybe you had to fill out the unbiased survey with vi commands
@Neoares why, do you feel threatened by its superiority?
no, I just like to use my mouse :O
Like typeform, only worse
09:32
> evelopers flock to languages made popular by tech giants
what I'm suposed to do with my right hand, if not?
has a wrong graph
attached to it
@Neoares you can do that in vim
@Neoares you type with both hands
@KamilSolecki how come
lmao wtf
every time I refresh that graph changes
lmao
that is a really sweet bug
wait lol
thats interesting
09:35
I assume it depends on where the page is scrolled
I used to use terminal vim
what a PITA
what's terminal vim
funny thing is I saw my professors doing crazy shortcut stuff and coding at speed of light
and I was like... wtf?
@Mosho we were forced to use terminal vim at 1st degree
@Mosho its a sickness
@Neoares you mean... vim?
09:38
yes
i.e. for the rest of your life you are bound to use vim
oh I thought you were doing an actual question
so I thought there were 2 versions of it
well vim is terminal by default
vim from the terminal?
I know
Is there even like a gui based
I dont think so
09:39
and someone told me you can use mouse in vim
but you couldn't use mouse there
there's gvim
but it's gvim, not vim
that 2 last message are reversed, probably
@Neoares depends on the terminal
towc meant vim in your local shell editor
@Mosho right I forgot this one
09:39
cause the first 1 got delayed cause spam filter lul
some terminals have mouse support
that's not a real terminal
what terminal are you using?
well, emulators
the one that comes with ubuntu
it's called "Terminal"
gnome?
09:40
yes
that is a vim in cosplay clothing
in a sexy waifu cosplay, iirc
vim is fine
I herd u like mudskips?
but when I tried to use it for development rather than text editing
09:41
@Neoares I think it supports mouse controls
actually when it comes to terminal, I use nano
it was hard to get it to work right
I'm sure it's possible
@towc no...
select text = copied
vim is my obvious to go when I gotta do stuff on the server
@Neoares Shame on you
09:42
right click = paste
but I'll go for VS/VSCode otherwise
@Neoares telnet mapscii.me
try that and use your mouse to do stuff :P
nano is the Notepad of editors
it's a great example of mouse not only over terminal, but also over connections
maybe I'll try vscode vim bindings again
09:42
@towc LUL
@Neoares uhm wut
@Neoares can you zoom in/out and pan across the view with your mouse?
@towc if you select text with mouse, it gets copied
omg nano is so effing annoying to me
might be a bit slow, so make the terminal small-ish
yes I can
09:43
@Neoares I doubt that's default behaviour
I hate it
@Neoares so your terminal supports mouse controls
man I zoomed into my house
this is sooo awesome
hence, you can use mouse in vim too
google it if you're not sure what's wrong with your current setup
also, please type with both hands
and all fingers? D:
09:45
duh
take your time if you think you need to
Also convert to DVORAK
the amount of money a dev makes is directly proportional to how fast they type #fact
@OliverSalzburg do you use it?
@towc #fact
@Neoares No, I just like to bring it up when people give typing advise
Most people don't have a typing speed deficiency. They have a thinking speed deficiency
Not me though. I'm smart af
then what's the square root of one million?
09:50
Google it?
im testin' you
@Neoares evil.. no nevermind that's money
TIL how to approximately calculate a neural network memory usage
and the answer is a shit ton
oh you have 2 8GB GPUs? good luck my brudda

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