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15:00
Southern Ontario is the best Ontario
the only ontario really
@hilli_micha if you remind yourself that its peak tourist season during those months and about how much people pay to experience what you live in, you can almost delude yourself that it's not that bad
well yea, northern ontario is a bunch of farmers and provincial parks
You can't delude the heat away.
nice to drive in, shitty to do anything in but camp in the summer
15:01
@hilli_micha turn on the spanish radio station and you can pretend you're vacationing though
@rlemon lol nah it's perfectly fine beach weather
as long as it's not windy
Older Quebec-people (Quebecians?) are miserable
!!s/Older//
@rlemon Quebec-people (Quebecians?) are miserable (source)
I've mentioned before, right now, we have an obscene amount of people from Ontario, I see their license plates all over the place.
15:02
I met one nice one in the mall. She was trying to sell me something though
@Vap0r and it is quebecois
@rlemon don't get quebecois with me
;)
That only really works if it's pronounced "coy" :/
@hilli_micha because all other provinces are too poor or are BC
and why would BC people wanna leave BC?
any reason why "docker/" is not ignoring docker folder in a .gitignore?
15:04
@KendallFrey a group of people so at odds with everything they can't even agree on the group's name? Nice.
"docker/" as in the folder? or the command?
"docker/" is in the .gitignore
and I have a docker folder :P
at the same level as .gitignore
it's not clear if it's git that's not ignoring it or docker
no it has nothing to do with docker
it's just a folder called docker :D call it X
ok, gotcha
15:06
did you commit the gitignore? I think it doesn't take it into account if you don't commit it
you said docker wasn't ignoring it, hence my confusion.
@towc incorrect
is it already added to git or git wants to add it?
@towc you don't need to commit
@KendallFrey well, add then?
15:07
@Luggage yea, so the "docker/" line inside .gitignore is not ignoring "docker" folder :P
@towc is that a nazi eagle on the navy hat on your avatar?
.gitignore is read by git when you make the commands. has nothing to do with github
@towc you can even put .gitignore in the .gitignore and it'll still work
but don't, commit your .gitignore
@towc also slightly tangentially related: why do you have a navy hat on your avatar?
15:07
maybe it doesn't work if you modify a file?
@KendallFrey oh, TIL
because I added a new one and it's ignored
what? of course you commit your .gitignore
yea, if it was already there it doesn't remove itself just from adding it to .gitignore
@Neoares yea, it only ignores new, that's why I asked: is it already added to git or git wants to add it?
15:08
oh wait, of course it's only for new files :P
@Luggage hence the comma
@Vap0r it's the "earn a silver badge" hat. It's called the "investigator". I don't know why
you need to remove it manually.
@Luggage oh, makes sense
so if I commit .gitignore it will ignore modifications?
@towc oh congrats then. SO does this automatically?
15:08
@Neoares committing it does nothing to git
@KendallFrey well, you have to go through your hats tab and put it on yourself
if you already hhave file added inside docker/ it may continue to pick them up
I've never had a hat, so I thought "might as well"
@Luggage yes yes, it's already added
maybe it's grace hopper's hat?
15:09
it won't remove existing files
the glasses are familiar
it's just that I don't want to have 10 config file modificacions every time I do git status
any other solution to that?
@TylerH By the way, do you live near ATL? It's wild because considering the difference in distance is only 350 mi. north, the temp difference is crazy between GA / FL right now.
solution: don't modify config files
I need to modify paths, etc
15:10
seriously, though. I'm confused. Are these file you want to save the changes of or are they temporary files?
@Neoares If you want to exclude them from git, use .gitiginore. That's what it's there for.
hello there is way in javscript or jquery to add css without ability to chnage it ?
@KendallFrey I don't want to exclude them
@Neoares Then what?
15:11
Then take them out of .gitignore? Let's back up
tell us what you are trying to do
@IbrahimAlsurkhi no
2 mins ago, by Neoares
it's just that I don't want to have 10 config file modificacions every time I do git status
everything is changable by the client.
Yea. That needs explanation
@Neoares What do you want then?
15:12
ignore the changes :P
If you modify a tracked file, it won't magically unmodify it for you
If you don't want the changes, revert them or don't make them in the first place
Why do you want to tracka file in git, but no the changes?
because they disturb me every time I do git status
(there are valid reasons for this, but I don't want to assume any more)
No you don't. git status doesn't disturb things
ohh, misread.
I'm not a thing xD
15:13
@Neoares Why are they committed in the first place?
actually i need hide some elements with add display: none but i don't need client style in browser
because they're needed for everything else to work
Are these temporary throw away changes for testing?
they're config files
then you have to change 2 or 3 variables in every file
@Luggage it will be
So, I might understand
15:14
since I'm working in an automatic config generation system
with templates
ohh, these are generated files?
no
they will be
but that's not relevant now
You want to commit some "blank" config files that any maintainer can then modify locally for their environment, yes?
sounds relevant since it may explain your very contradictory points about these being vital config files, but you not* wanting to track changes
15:15
what I wanted seems to be impossible, but it's fine
I guess I will stash them
since I don't need them for the moment
I think where Kendall was going sounds right
@ShrekOverflow do not expect to run high end AAA games like AC origins on max settings flawlessly
you commit the unchanging versions, let the developer clone and edit into ignored files
If the config files aren't "blank", why are you modifying them?
@Luggage That's not where I was trying to go
@KarelG you shouldn't expect any laptop to run that
15:16
oh
because there's a variable that uses an absolute path, so I have to write my own path
@ShrekOverflow some people does tho :|
My suggestion would have been to generate the config files on first run
I hate the zenbook keyboard though
but you aren't ofc a regular ;)
15:16
I like my spacey Macbook keyboard
but I guess oboe can use it
@Neoares So it is a "blank" file that each developer will customize
yea. Either generated or the changes matter. They can't be 'both'.
Personally I am probably gonna go with Dell Precision
it is not blank
what do you mean by "blank" xD
@hilli_micha I live about an hour west of ATL
15:17
it has a default path, from the CTO's laptop
then you modify it
near the Alabama border
not empty, but with sensible defaults
@ShrekOverflow I have a dell precision 15". The keyboard is very mac-like, but not quite as good.
15:17
@Neoares That's a stupid default value
Also you'll hate that CTRL-C and CMD-c are in different places when coming from mac. It's so close that it gets cnfusing
I changed them, and now I'm working in a new feature, and I don't want to see all the changes to these config files everytime :P
@ShrekOverflow noticed at specs that the HDD has 5400 rpm
Just generate the file and have the developer enter the path they want to use
15:18
not sure if that is an issue for you
@KarelG most laptop drives are 5400rpm
@KendallFrey it is, and as I said I'm working on improving this system by using templates and auto-generated config files
unless they are SSDs
mine does not
don't commit the config, commit th code that generates the config
15:18
because I replaced it :P
@Luggage Its like $1000 less though :P
@KendallFrey I'm gonna do that thing also
I remember doing this recently, let me see if I can find it
@KarelG it ships with a 256 G SSD
i know
15:19
@ShrekOverflow and the trackpad will not work nearly as well. the hardware is fine, but windows (and I assume linu) are not going to be like a mac. You'll be dissapointed
it is a good laptop overall
so the thing is, in the meanwhile I don't want to see all these changes in my git status
but they'll be removed and ignored eventually, of course
precisions can come with ssds, too. If that's what you were talking about @KarelG
@Luggage I am disappointed by Mac aswell
so ...
No, the opposite
15:20
let auth;
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{
	auth = require("./auth");
}
catch (e)
{
	console.log("Could not load auth.js. Please enter your GitHub credentials to generate it.");
	const prompt = require("prompt-sync")({ sigint: true });
	const username = prompt("Username: ");
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	auth = { username, password };
	require("fs").writeFileSync("./auth.json", JSON.stringify(auth));
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mac gets the trackpad right
It's mostly Mac OS that handles the trackpad so well. My XPS has a fantastic track pad, but Windows is just..not very good with it.
@hilli_micha as I was saying :)
@Neoares in the meanwhile, remove the config file from git
@KendallFrey I'll do something similar, but slightly different
15:22
@Luggage Damn, you're right, sorry, didn't fully read your message on that.
if you mean XPS laptop, those are basically the same as the precision
@Luggage yeah :(
Yes. I've heard that across the board Dell has gotten their stuff together with laptops.
recently, at least. not sure about all generations
but I really don't want to buy 2 Macbooks
I'll be indebt for half the year :P
15:23
Either way, I just know I have an XPS and it's easily the best laptop I've ever owned.
@hilli_micha people keep saying that about lenovo as well, but I've been burned too many times.
because lenovo sells solid laptops and consumer-grade junk
oboes college is moronic though, they don't even support Linux at all for a CS Course :P meh @Luggage Ok I guess I'll take the bullet and just get the Mac for Oboe
you have to buy the overpriced lenovos that are ugly black boxes
Asus is the only windows laptop manufacturer I trust, but they're more expensive.
15:24
Asus is cheaper than the rest
I've never owned a 'solid' lenovo product. but I also haven't bought one in like ten years.
I actually have Lenovo. :D
@ShrekOverflow well.. the precision is the most mac-like you can get. winth iwndows 10 it's not bad. But.. it's not QUITE the same.
s/Asu/Anu/
Be way of a high-dpi display, Windows 10 still hasn't gotten that right yet..
15:25
no, windows 10 is half broken with that.
I had to do a lot to get stuff running decently with the 4K display on my laptop..
Linux is completely broken
i got another secret hat and idk what it is :(
with High DPI Scaling
Windows is and always has been a clunky OS that I'm sure is filled with layer upon layer of nasty spaghetti code built up over the years of iterations and bandaid bug fixes
(as is every pece of software)
15:26
@SterlingArcher "I slept with a pizza hat, awarded to those who have woken up in bed with a whole pizza"
@ndugger You're not wrong. They tried breaking that cycle with Vista but, we know how that went.
THAT WAS ONE TIME LEMON
I always prefer to work on a Mac, and game on a Windows.
once is enough to brand you for life
I prefer to work on windows, gaming I haven't yet had a computer that can do that
15:27
Windows is like JS. No matter how hard parts of the industry try to modernize, it's still the lowest comon denominator and you can't go breaking jQuery.
except for my old desktop
@rlemon at least there werent any holes in the pizza
@Luggage hahaha
@SterlingArcher no, but you still haven't explained why your ass was to greasy the next day
@ShrekOverflow I'd really like to move to Linux for work, it does present itself more challenging than I thougt though
15:27
@rlemon lmao
@GNi33 oops I typed Windows, I meant LInux
@ShrekOverflow It made sense either way
> I prefer to work on linux, windows gaming I haven't yet had a computer that can do that
Linux is neat, but my current job involves a lot of Autodesk products, so I'm SOL there.
@GNi33 why? not that I care, but what challenges do you have?
15:29
I prefer Mac if I really don't want to setup anything
@ShrekOverflow well, it's a $800 investment for something workable
@rlemon not care in what way?
$1000-ish if you want something current-generation
basically it starts right from the bottom
don't care what OS people use.
just wondering why you think linux is harder for your workflow?
maybe you're just missing something
15:30
most likely the correct driver
:D
I still want a windows OS, SSD is only 256gb right now. I won't partition that, nor do I want a dual boot at all
@hilli_micha move to a different software vendor ?
@GNi33 ahh, fair.
that of course would be fixed with a second system
@KarelG Good luck, in the BIM world, there is no other software vendor.
15:30
Now that Ubuntu's shitty Unity UI is gone, I'd consider giving it another shot
otoh, I'm dabbling around with a lot of stuff right now, mostly C#, which was just a pain to set up in Linux
@hilli_micha you may be misinformed :P
for sure, if I still had to write windows specific stuff I'd be in windows
@ndugger I still have lot of issues with gnome.
15:31
My school used to be sponsored by lenovo and apple, so most students had these shitty lenovos with easily removable harddrives and since they moved so easily, they got corrupted so easily
lenovo sucks
Believe me, I'm not. Autodesk is huge in this sector; if you're not using their products, you're just a screwed up cog in the machine no one wants to work with.
not sure if I should grab my old notebook, fix it up and set up a work system on that
I have very few issues with gnome, but I'm running "gnome ubuntu" not the official ubuntu
might be worth it
@GNi33 get a little headless box and just ssh into it
15:32
A friend from my engineering studies is a building engineer. I recall that he moved to another BIM tool because of the giant sloggy autodesk. He was used that because we used that software in the first grade.
lemme try to recall that other software
@rlemon hmm, that actually sounds quite good
but yeah, it's mostly a problem because I'm doing windows stuff at the moment
for most other stuff, I use vagrant anyways
I'm trying to be hip and replace all of our desktop software with 'cloud' solutions
!!is LTC tanking?
@GNi33 I expect so
@KarelG There are softwares for each specific role in the building development process that aren't AutoDesk, the problem is that they're all made by separate companies with no guarantees of compatibility with each other. In the modern BIM enviroment, that's a huge necessity.
15:34
good
@hilli_micha ah. Well, it was something with brics
so googled it and found a result
Especially now because being able to generate stuff that both engineers and fabricators can work with is the big deal right now.
you can check it yourself
so lonely
Moving to a different software stack to get around problems with your exiting one is a great way to find out why you were using the existing approach and waste a lot of time in the process
15:35
speaking from experience heh
@OliverSalzburg but it puts off the current problem for enough time to hire a few new interns to deal with it
Moving to a different software stack because you "don't want to use Windows" is also an exceptionally great way to waste time and money while achieving nothing
I moved to linux because a few years back I was having a hell of a time getting node working on windows
now I just don't feel a need to move back.
You never move back
That would be an acknowledgment of defeat
@KarelG It's a neat looking software; what you linked essentially looks like Revit. Problem is that the industry is dominated by people who use AutoDesk stuff and have used it for decades. Convincing my customers to switch over to something else and developing my software for the other stuff is, unrealistic to put it bluntly.
15:37
@rlemon linux itself or one of other distro's ?
I've been using Ubuntu for my main OS for 5? years now
but then also debian, centos, fedora, suse, and angstrom for specific purposes (mainly, servers and embedded devices)
I tried archlinux once. Once.
Though, I am happy to see that BricSys software works on Linux and has IFC support (even though that's not a full solution). It's still neat in the end, didn't know it existed. lol
Arch is my desktop to-go-to
> hey Matei, can you come with these flights? Your sister might need to get surgery so it's best if we don't leave town
> what happened?
> I'll explain later
15:42
I gave up after having to install so much. Thought, might as well go back to ubuntu at this rate.
that's super comforting parents :/
Do they know you're living as a hobo?
I've mentioned it
thing is, I don't know how to approach the question of what happened to my sister now
Go home
if I ask just like that, again, they might start feeling very bad and get emotional
15:44
So go home
Go hobo
Or stop caring and just ask
but if it turns out all she had was a tooth thing and that it's best if she doesn't get in a car for a while because vibrations, I'm going to be really pissed for not having asked
@towc overcomplication alert
15:45
I asked if it was some long-term damage, so they'll hopefully feel detached while answering, if it's that bad
Give me the contact details, I'll ask for you, then I'll relay sell the information back to you
> I asked if it was some long-term damage
...
well, I also asked them if I could ask her directly
what is wrong with a simple "what for surgery is she having?"
@KarelG Think about the consequences?!
15:46
@KarelG mainly that they said "I'll explain later"
which means they don't want to talk about it
they're turning her into the son they never had
Or they don't have time
Because they are taking a poop
💩
both of them? Could be
> I DEMAND ANSWERS NOW!
15:47
they should both still be at work
are you filling the starboard with negative messages or something?
unless my sister's at home now already
because I have a bunch of them
she got ran over by cars a few times
and has bad eyesight
and is somewhat suicidal because cambridge
and she was about to get out of a 2(3?)-year relationship
are they paying for the flight?
do you have a job or school that requires you stay?
just go home man
15:50
@rlemon well, they say that
I'm sure your parents would like to see you, and like you to stop living in the woods
@rlemon I kind of promised a lot of effort to the hackerspace people, in order to solve some problems
@rlemon to the risk of sounding like an angsty teenager: that's not my home
> I kind of promised a lot of effort to the hackerspace people
is a shitty excuse imo
Family > Hacker douches
15:51
Oh to be young and on the verge of homelessness again
sure. Point is that I'm not very sure they'll let me stay if I go out for a week, a week after I came in
I'm not a huge 'family' person and even I can see the stupidity of not going
@Vap0r that's one of those experiences you can have any time in life.
they want you to come home for your sister, and the timing isn't coincidental
it's the holidays. go see your family
@Luggage good to know I'm not "over the hill" yet
15:52
Like my neighbor that was evicted. probably homeless, now
oh :(
Yeah, I don't miss my days of borderline homelessness, not for a second.
he was on the verge of offing himself anyway, I could tell
HI everyone... i finnaly could figure the solution to parent / child i talk this morning.. but right know i'm guessing why with simple code as two console.log inside my child i can kill the child, but if i use a callback function i cant kill it
honestly, the more I think about it, the less I actually care that my sister is having surgery :/
ofc I'd like to help, but if I can't, there's no point in trying
15:53
you're such a douche
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@Luggage that's pretty scary
does she need affection? She doesn't particularly like me
@towc I can see why
I agree with others. Be a bigger man, man.
@towc These are things you say to yourself to justify not having to care.
15:54
she might actually not like to see me
I do it, too.
I know I really wouldn't like my parents to randomly come visit me
@towc Gonna be blunt, but that's probably the most asshole thing I've read in here. Life lesson, unless your family does something that's legitimately egregious, they're going to be real valuable to you at some point in your life. Don't ruin that by being a dick.
then visit them so they don't feel the need. :)
do it on your terms
ok, here's some more background: I agreed to come visit them for 3 days
15:55
why are you guys talking about it....you are letting this get to you
he is a troll and not worth a minute of your time
and a part of me can't help but feel like this is a plot to keep me more
and make me actually want to come
if my parents managed to create this level of distrust, I think that's not really my fault
ofc I can be a better person
bro go see a psychologist
@Koosh But he's our troll
to go or not to go = to keep connection with your family or not. Up to you
user2620028
@Koosh unfortunately he is our troll, we tried giving him back to the stork but it never works.
15:56
or a counselo
but honestly, there's a point where you kind of have to move on
@HatterisMad <3
holy fuck I was right
she needs to get her judgement teeth removed
and my parents tried to get me emotional
on a brighter side, any of you fine gentleman have a javascript function handy that can print a scrollable div in my asp.net application?
you finally asked it
15:57
I asked my sister
?:)
@towc They're creating reasons to see you
not my parents
they kept trying to be mysterious
well you know it now
user2620028
so wait.... she got run over by "cars" and that resulted in typical wisdom teeth removal surgery?
15:57
well, I'm kind of angry at them
@Koosh print a scrollable div? Maybe just a print media stylesheet that makes it expanded?
@HatterisMad oh no, that was a few years ago, multiple times
she was fine. Just destroyed bycicle
user2620028
@towc multiple times? maybe she shouldn't be near roads anymore
@towc that your parents think it would take near-calamity to get to see you, and that you would still weigh whether or not it's worth it is really something. Your parents must be wonderful people to be so forgiving of your behavior
15:59
if my kid ran away from home for a girl, then started living in the woods, I'd have him committed.
@Vap0r point is that I had already agreed to see them
user2620028
to be fair i kinda have the same apprehensions seeing my family :/
they just wanted to get more of it

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