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17:00
that's a sex predator?
someone who has sex before the date.
notice how I capitalized Predator in my first statement 😋
and then referred back to that statement, stating a sexual Predator isn't good.
how much time do you guys think will it take for writing a not so advance ui like this (for some reason i think im really slow, even though im writing js after a year) -cdn.dribbble.com/users/281716/screenshots/3397310/attachments/…
@Loktar It was the first word of a sentence...
Sorry you suck at scifi
was in ref to @SterlingArcher xenomorph comment, keep up
17:01
Then you must refer to his previous capitalization practices to determine if he meant a proper noun or not.
@Loktar sorry I don't follow baseball
He follows competitive babysitting, which is why he's so hung up on predators.
LOL
I would so watch competitive babysitting
17:02
for about 15 minutes
Canadian Competitive Apologizing
Some bouts last weeks
@SterlingArcher I actually haven't seen this, this is hilarious
@Loktar did you get to the song yet? lol
lol yea
first time i saw that i cried
17:08
guys, I am still stuck. someone please explain me
like my path is localhost:9001/a/b/index.html but every relative href is taking me to localhost:9001/different/path/relative.html
10 mins ago, by Kevin B
console.log(element.href, element.getAttribute('href'));
why is it not taking me to localhost:9001/a/b/relative.html
that is giving me the same wrong path
why is element.href giving me wrong path, please explain Kevin
paths don't just randomly go to another location, either you're not actually on the page you think you're on or you've got a base tag that's different from what you're on
@RahulJain what's your html code look like?
@KevinB base tag?
@RahulJain let me just make sure that you don't think /a/b/c is a relative path
a/b/c is, /a/b/c isn't
yeah! didn't know about that lol. its base tag problem
oh
who uses base tags anymore?
i do
I never have, but they look useful. I forget of its existence.
17:13
bah, it's really easy to use them wrong
corrected. :)
to me, they seem almost exactly like with in js
i see the relation, but less evil
I forget exactly why i used it
same sort of problems come from both
17:15
~/some/url
does pushState mess with relative urls? only after reloading right?
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Lmao that skydiving thing
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Idk if he hit the target...
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Ouch
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17:16
Oh they make more attempts and make it haha. THat was just the first bit I saw
@towc Isn't that a practice used in Angular 2? I see base tags in them
I see them mostly used in SPA
@RahulJain under a layer of sensible abstraction, sure
so that all relative paths refer to root rather than whatever route you might be on
I had another dream last night that I had to go back to elementary school to finish math, and I was pissed off like "I have a full time job why the fuck am I here I don't need to be in school"
17:17
tbf pretty much all html is written under abstractions, nowadays
@Jhoverit Wait that's not actually in reverse?
@SterlingArcher maybe they were memories
you could use absolute paths, but... that falls apart if you have the app running in a subfolder for whatever reason.
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@KendallFrey That's real and forward
17:18
damn impressive
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He sticks it smooth af in another attempt
oh my god that's amazing
I want that in superflight
pfft anyone can fall in a hole
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Fall into a falling hole
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Sideways
17:23
sounds like an insult
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LOL
@Jhoverit lol
@towc why did the partially-blind man fall in the well?
Because he couldn't see that well
his mother didn't love him enough. He didn't fall, he threw himself in
Why did Susie fall off the swing? Because she had no arms.
Knock knock, who's there? Not Susie.
17:33
I literally heard that joke 20 years ago
@SterlingArcher How can you find the blind man in a nudist colony? It's not hard.
@KendallFrey the one without the boner?
yup lol
uuuh, got a nice riddle for kendall
@KendallFrey A football?
antijokes lol
17:35
@KendallFrey hahahathatmademesad
Damn, my next guess was a Red Ryder BB Gun.
on an island, there are three kinds of people: the knights who always tell the truth, the beggars who always lie, and the normals, who sometimes lie and sometimes tell the truth
"fun" is the american dialect for "gun"
You're pretty up to date on your burger speak.
@towc oh geez I've heard so many of these
Have you heard of the hardest version?
The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever is a logic puzzle so called by American philosopher and logician George Boolos and published in The Harvard Review of Philosophy in 1996. Boolos' article includes multiple ways of solving the problem. A translation in Italian was published earlier in the newspaper La Repubblica, under the title L'indovinello più difficile del mondo. It is stated as follows: Three gods A, B, and C are called, in no particular order, True, False, and Random. True always speaks truly, False always speaks falsely, but whether Random speaks truly or falsely is a completely random matter...
17:36
My god chatting with verizon is slow
@KendallFrey I am the hardest version.
who is verizon, are you cheating on us
Verizon, the dickheads trying to ruin my internet
I thought that was the FCC
Have you met Comcast?
the knights are few but own 5/10 of the land. The normals are a decent amount and own 4/10 of the land, and the poor are very many and own only 1/10 of the land
17:38
the head of the FCC used to be a lawyer for verizon
over time, the knights grew fewer in number and owned more and more land, while more normals became poor and loosing a lot of land. After a few years, the knights own 16/20 of the land, the normals only 3/20, and the poor only 1/20
i bet they didn't have guns
now, given the lore of the island, we know that the poor always lie because they need to get by, and most of the time, the survive they need to lie, while the knights don't have to be afraid of anyone because they're already at the top, so they just speak their mind
the question is: how do we get off this island?
a boat, a plane, swim, idk
urgh, smbc told it much better
17:41
no doubt
@KendallFrey thanks
let me find it
@ndugger @Loktar @rlemon
I'm losing it
I was thinking of arguments for net neutrality today
While on the toilet
17:42
And I thought of what people would do if my power company decided to throttle my shower water
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> I don't believe in capitalism
@SterlingArcher Jeff is cute
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^ My argument for net nuetrality
Would I pay extra for shower water?
Would I buy a water pressure package?
eh, it's difficult to compare power/water to internet
17:43
@Cereal they do that in israel
and people pay
Which of course brings up the whole thing.. maybe I should be using less water
Then I was thinking, I use a lot of small websites. Is my ISP really going to charge me more for chat.stackoverflow
the thing I don't get
is
No, and if they did charge more for certain things it wouldn't affect everyone the same
Verizon wants a $100 set up fee for moving... but on the bright side I'm getting gigabit internet connection for the same price I'm paying now
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@Cereal I think it's more akin to... You (and every other consumer) takes a lot more showers than you use the faucet. So they've given much higher water pressure to the shower (Netflix) vs the faucet
17:45
Oh man, they could charge extra for jquery CDNs
Make bank
net neutrality laws (that are about to be loosened) have been legislated in 2015
did ISP's charge selectively for services before that?
Our city does something really dumb and charges a minimum amount of water a month. So if you use less than that minimum, you're still charged for whatever the minimum is. Which the minimum is quite high (32~ bucks a month) So it just gives you incentive to be wasteful with your water.
it would be like getting free shower water if you lived in condo owned by Company X, but have to pay for shower water if you lived in condo Y owned my company Y.....it mean people more likely to go live in condo owned by company X
@Jhoverit I would totally buy that argument too, if my power company came out and said it
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So really. They're just catering to the most used services which makes sense IMHO
17:45
"Yeah I mean, I guess I could use less water"
@Jhoverit Except they might not, and they might charge you extra every time you use the faucet, or they might make you pay for the shower priority package
It depends if they abuse it
@Jhoverit oh are you talking about how Netflix is basically abusive
I think the biggest problem I have is the potential for abuse it opens
abuse, that already occurs
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17:46
@KendallFrey That's true they might. ANd in the case of ISPs I would choose another provider if I felt the need
they will abuse it, people are inherently greedy and abusive
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Water not so much
and then calls ISP aholes since they don't want to keep clogging up their lanes for netflix
What do I do if my ISP decides to block my access to websites they don't like
Like, say, a website for ap rotest against the ISP
@Cereal in an ideal world choose another ISP
17:46
@Jhoverit ISPs already have a problem with monopolization and price fixing
even with the net neutrality rules in place. Netflix for example has contracts such that they have boxes at the local ISP that they serve their content from
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@Cereal That's not even in the ballpark of reality. That's the extremist angle ;P
@Loktar not in canada lol
essentially the same as a fast lane, but without it actually being a fastlane
@Cereal none of this applies to canada though
17:47
@Cereal cancel all services, move into the woods and get super fit
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There is no evidence that that has happened or will. I say we regulate it if we need to but we don't atm.
@Mosho Not yet, I imagine if it passes in the US, it will in canada
@Jhoverit yeah it didn't happen before 2008
Think of all the memes you'll come back to when the dust settles
17:47
If not now, then when the conservatives are back in power
but now suddenly it will lol
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There's a LOT of angles to this net neutrality thing tho... I don't have an opinion that meets all cases
@Jhoverit I don't believe that's at all unrealistic
@Cereal they're actually strengthening net neutrality laws in canada
in reality they need to make it a utility
17:47
@Mosho yeah, under trudeau
it doesn't matter, Canada has nothing, everything comes from the US
that would be ideal
canada has lots of things
snow
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@KendallFrey Based on past experiences or based on what's possible
squirrels
17:48
but... if it's a utility... does that mean the government is controlling internet access and cable prgramming?
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Its totally plausible I agree.
@rlemon help me out here
@Jhoverit Based on internet filtering that takes place in some countries in Asia
corn, maple syrup
@KevinB no, they don't currently control the phone numbers you can call
17:48
cmon mosho, you're better than this
and how much electricity you can use either
mooses
Making the internet a utility adds complications in its own right, there are tons of anti-competition laws that exist within that mess.
or whatever the plural form of moose is
17:49
neither of those have a political effect as wide ranging as internet does.
lost hockey pucks
@Jhoverit Not saying it will, but the possibility scares me
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Sure
@Mosho miise
(not really)
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IMHO the big ISPs aren't doing their part anyway
17:49
@Mosho the plural of moose is moose
mind = blown
it's its own plural
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My home town is paying out of pocket (the city is) to have a smaller company route fiber
i think at&t does fiber in town here
every moose is actually several moose stacked atop eachother. Fractal moose
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17:50
Because Cox/Century link etc aren't interested. And this is happening all across the US... My co worker got fiber run for free by a small comp and the city paid for it.
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So I think there will be a lot more healthy competition. Today there isn't and that is scary
the biggest issue is that we don't have choices for ISPs outside of 1 or 2, and are mostly stuck, due to the high cost and regulations required to create/start an ISP
so many of these exist due to government subsidies to begin with
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@Loktar Yea exactly. I don't think we need the regulations if we can have more healthy competition
/so many of these/all of them/
it's just an odd case. you can't have one fiber line and two companies competeing over the same one, they'd have to have their own infrastructure
17:50
@Loktar Is repealing NN supposed to help that?
and it just doesn't make sense to do so
5yo: I am building a semi ominous vehicle out of cardboard Me: You mean semi autonomous 5yo: You don't understand my technology
yeah that's where I sit on it@Jhoverit
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Today yea I'd concede I think we are vulnerable
can't we just create our own internet using new servers and bypass all these problems?
17:51
@KendallFrey it doesn't address that at all unfortunately
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But dude. Don't regulate a monopoly is my opinion... Shatter that shit!
anytime Google, Twitter and Facebook are heavily behind something I'm highly skeptical.
@towc My 5yo nephew still speaks in broken english
how do you make it not a monopoly though?
i mean,
and who needs ISP, we can use power lines to transmit the data
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17:52
At least Zuckerberg said it was good. I trust Zuckerberg
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lol
it's not a monopoly @KevinB there is competition, just not as much as people would like
rig every wireless router to communicate with eachother
create a wireless network
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@KevinB The same way I just described. Incentivising competition
you can always switch to satellite for example
17:52
but how could it have more competition?
it just sucks vs fiber or cable
that's it, I'm starting an ISP startup
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Tons of new ISPs are starting up
@erotavlas I wonder how feasible it would be to broadcast data to your neighbourhood by regulating your power consumption
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And running fiber in areas the main ones simply won't
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17:53
10mb is jack when the local ISP is running fiber lol. I assume it all trickles back up to borrowing Cox/Comcast data lines tho.... Somehow
@KendallFrey but what about those power line adapters used in homes?
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It's not like all the small cell phone companies are making any competition. They're all just selling the big 3s service on another name..
they're creating the illusion of competition, ideal for a monopoly
right... but they're never going to really gain on the larger company, they're never going to grow, they're not going to all of a sudden take over fiber lines from another city. they still have to route through comcast or at&t's infrastructure at some point anyway.
the bigger companies are still profiting from it
@erotavlas what do you mean?
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17:55
Monopolies have been happening for centuries lol
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The solution is not to just prop them up with some gov. regulations IMHO. But I don't know what the solution is
in this case there's 4 ways of providing the service, each better than the next
@Jhoverit If I'm paying them less for the same service, surely that counts as competition, yes?
and two companies can't share the same infrastructure to provide their service
17:56
@towc i'm in
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@KendallFrey Yeah but in the end the profits just go back up top. I think you can see what I meant but I take your point
you're not goign to have two broadband companies running cable down the same line so you have a choice of two broadband companies
@ShrekOverflow well call it "Mentally Ill & Co."
I mean the whole monopoly situation does create a bit of a dilema. Yeah, when a company gets too big, it can be virtually impossible for a smaller company to compete. But by over-enforcing anti-monopoly regs. You're essentially saying "You can only be successful as we allow."
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I can have cable service from 2 providers
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THey come and physically switch the connections at the box they said
@Jhoverit Yeah but they get less profit than if they did otherwise
@erotavlas I don't know what that is, but it doesn't look related.
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Like there are 2 cable lines running to the same apartment and they hook up one or the other lol
uhm, trying to think of what a musk-birthed ISP would look like
@KendallFrey yeah use power lines to transmit data - instead of relying on the infrastructure created by ISPs
17:58
satellite
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@towc He's trying lol.... Funny how people think it's for the good of the people or something
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DUde wants that cash cow.
@towc I think it'd be a lot like Google Fiber, a large company coming in and trying to disrupt established conventions with innovative implementation.
@erotavlas By power lines do you mean wiring inside the house? Because to me power lines are outdoors, and connect the house to the grid
17:59
@Cereal welp, if that happens I might really just leave facebook
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@Cereal Did you see the revenge porn thing? Linked in that article

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