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21:00
yes you are
and the chat transcript is all the proof I need
My transcript is not bad at all
A few golden stories
Mar 3 '16 at 18:15, by Sterling Archer
Hangouts is just a bunch of grown ass men watching a canadian get drunk and talk about corn
lmao this is why @Loktar doesn't join hangouts
23 mins ago, by Sterling Archer
there's 8 pages of chat of me talking about drunk
he's anti-canadian
I really don't even need to look far to prove my point
fuck dude :D
21:02
@rlemon yeah, about they're not all me being or telling drunk stories!
My favorite thing is that one Japanese game show where they have to figure out what's chocolate and what's not https://t.co/WsstRlEiy9
fucking hell
removes Japan from list of countries to visit
it's harder than it sounds
@SterlingArcher idk man. chat.stackoverflow.com/search?q=drunk&user=774078&room= there isn't much in here that isn't you talking about your drunk shenanigans
21:03
Ok fine, @rlemon you have a point
Jan 23 '16 at 5:48, by Sterling Archer
I'm so drunk, I somehow managedh to code same tile interaftion in my game
I concede
gg
if we ever get drunk together I'm shaving off one of your eye brows
no reason, just will.
he shaves off most of it already
no stuble, that man plucks
tweeze >> fleek
21:06
@KendallFrey Furze is doing an AMA
I'm pretty sure it's felony/treason to shave my eyebrows
@Mosho do you like Dream Theater
\m/
one of my favs
been to 3 concerts
So you've probably heard This Dying Soul?
Best song
I've heard exactly 100% of their songs
21:08
yes, the dying soul is amazing
train of thought probably my favorite album
yasss
some of their shit is just out there, but i love the heavier old stuff
stream of consciousness #1 instrumental
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I have a weird thing lol
ssube any hints on what to look for to distinguish a devops role from a knuckle dragger?
Hey, I have a little problem with Vuejs and Firebase. I do have a database with users and users have settings child. Now I need to add new setting under settings and it should also update it to every user I have in database. How to do this? Could not find any good information on google docs.
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21:09
So I have
@SterlingArcher and the solo in In the Name of God is beyond words
will I be considered a hipster for even using the word?
brb listening
@Luggage tooling, most likely. Terraform, Ansible, the newer stuff.
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The CSS is
21:09
petrucci is a god
shit, call coming in, gotta go
the write-code-to-control-boxes stuff
sorry
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If I change phone to phon both errors go away hahaha
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I'm so lost
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21:09
Oh shit I pasted the wrong error
Are ampersands valid class names?
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It's sass
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So I have two things
I mean I'm sassy too I don't see what that has to do with it
lmao jk
i mean
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21:10
a {
  &__phone {}
}
...
b {
  &__phone {}
}
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Apparently this is not okay lol even tho they have different rules inside
.foo {
  &.bar {}
}
generates .foo.bar {}
@SterlingArcher
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cc @Loktar lmao
a__phone
@rlemon neat
21:11
weird tagname
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It was a example
@KevinB bem
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;P
i use & quite a bit, but never to concatenate into a longer classname
i swear i've seen it done before though
21:12
swear to batman
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@KevinB That's how you BEM
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E.g.
I was at a talk from the (some of the) russians who made BEM
bem is like jsx, ugly at first, but makes your life so much better once you embrace it
they had the heaviest russian accent
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21:13
.modal {
  display: modalicious;
  &__title { // .modal__title
    text-transform: capitalize;
  }
}
so funny
> BYEM
the double underscore is making me uncomfortable
@SterlingArcher don't use django
good to know lol
i don't know what bem is
21:14
I don't get to use enough python to django
s/underscore/penetration/
even if i use it heavily
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I guess I left out the last bem part lmao
but your usage is documented and should do what you want
@SterlingArcher entries = Entry.objects.filter(blog__name__in=inner_qs)
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21:15
.modal {
  display: modalicious;
  &__title { // .modal__title
    text-transform: capitalize;
    &--error {
      color: red;
    }
  }
}
queries in django
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block__element--modifier
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Lol
I mean it is snake_case, but with extra snek
it's just a style guide for writing your css, that in theory makes it much easier to write and maintain
might be more, but that's how I've always seen it
21:18
@rlemon that's about what it is
@SterlingArcher did you listen to in the name of god
it has the craziest solo, dragonforce level stuff, but with style and he can actually perform it
not a big dragonforce style guy though
i like the more djenty stuff
I just mean
it's extremely fast
it reduces or eliminates specificity too
had to reply to an email
but it has substance
21:19
but yeah you always have flat classes for everything
I mean, I personally really like dragonforce too :P
so nothing really overrides something else, so pretty easy to refactor or add styles/classes
@SterlingArcher what's djenty :o
anyway, go listen to it
cc @TylerH for helping me with BEM years ago actually
back in the ol css room
@Mosho youtube.com/watch?v=nP7QyfLPtLE this is pretty djenty
hoyl shit though @Loktar @Mosho @BenFortune @GNi33
21:21
yeah gojira is great
gojira...
@SterlingArcher :(
japanese group??
if I remember correctly?
go jira
21:22
@rlemon I thought you didn't like gojira?
SATANAS
@Neoares french actually
What am I not meant to drink after beer?
satanas squared
21:23
@SterlingArcher nice
@SterlingArcher idk. I'm just a needy mofo that likes being included
but how is that different from what you usually listen to
damn, at 4:00 :O
that's new
that's djent lol
LOVE STRANDED
@SterlingArcher I have a lot of respect for lead singers who are also on the guitar
guys, my slides for tomorrow only have a few illustrations and three buzzword related logos
this is so embarassing
@Mosho best group ever
after BFMV
and maybe story of the year
21:26
@ssube I mean, I can add to them.
and my chemical romance xD
but I don't think you'll appreciate my slide additions.
I suspect not
actually, someone here likes my chemical romance?
they were amazing
I didn't mind them
21:27
by the way
@Mosho that's also why I like trivium and machine head so much
very important question
pause the video I sent at 1:16 aprox
is that kid the actor that represents the son of harry potter in the last movie?
I love that this chat is pretty dominantly metal-heads
what?
@Neoares so he looked like this one year after the video was released?
21:29
@rlemon hm... maybe he isn't :D
maybe he's the son of the person you thought was the son
sonception
lol I just saw the s/S/M/ xDDDDDD
he aproves
does the fps counter go lower than 1?
@SterlingArcher speaking of metal. bt.dk/politik/…
> Danish PM gives Indonesia PM a Lars Ulrich signed Metallicabox to improve relations and trade.
21:34
so, alcohol definitely makes me sleepy if I allow it to
now question is: should I go out and get tipsy every night, or should I buy my own reserve?
downside of former: costs a lot of money
you should not ask us to endorse your future alcoholism
@rlemon niiiiiiice
downside of latter: I might binge it
well, responsible drinking either way
21:35
@KamilSolecki just saw your well wishes, thanks for the Thanksgiving greetings!
there are much better drugs than alcohol
I haven't drank anything in so much time ;)
kid, you just asked if you should get drunk every night
don't be stupid
!!afk noop
not drunk, tipsy
21:36
live through my experiences, it's not something you wanna get yourself into 2s
@towc I used to go to sleep off of boxed wine, it's relatively cost effective
btw, I ended up actually taking control of my drinking. finally.
I have 2-3 beers one or two nights a week max
same
@rlemon congratulations man I took control of mine until thanksgiving
but for coke zero
don't laugh
21:37
Thanksgiving was bad for my health
now I'm going to fix so dark chat's putting the cursor at the end whenever it parses a smiley after you edit something in the middle
for.. ~4-5 years I was drinking 6-8+ a night.
and rlemon better accept this PR
tallboys
That's a good way to get fat
21:37
@rlemon wow, that's a lot
lemons are often round
it's the beer
how lonng ago was this?
@KendallFrey I offset it with little food and exercise.
@KendallFrey depends on if the drinks are meal replacements
I'm considering at most 1-2 a night
21:38
I'd go bananas if I had to replace food
I might have a drink once a few years
food is the best
actually, I should go to sleep before the tipsiness warns off
getting out of that habit was seriously tough
I only do a glass of scotch every now and again, I haven't been legitimately drunk in years tbh
21:38
I've never been big on beer, but we have a well stocked liquor cabinet
even when I did drink I never drank beer aka carbonated piss
drinking got boring after a while tho
@rlemon kudos for pulling it off
once you get good at it, meh
@KendallFrey thanks.
21:39
drinking pairs well with a crap life
I still want the alcohol, but I can tell myself to fuck off now and drive past the beer store without stopping.
so, yea, happy days.
they're attributing all dependancy/addiction to a lack of love now
@Webster see, I started drinking once my life got good.
extra money and no self-control.
it was easy to slip into
and you can enjoy it with little consequence
Is var b = {...a} performing a deep clone of a?
21:41
show up hungover a few times, there's a good chance nobody will care
the self abuse may be a reflection of your inner reality?
@Vap0r no, only shallow
@Vap0r I would think not
it wasn't self abuse, it was substance abuse.
important to distinguish alcaholism from just plain thirst
21:41
I wasn't drinking to get away from life, at first I was drinking because why not. then I was drinking because I was addicted to it
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@Webster lmfao
i get home i want a beer/cocktail, but really im just thirsty
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> I am just so thirsty I'm dying for a sip of vodka
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When you're thirsty you drink thirst quenching drinks usually
21:43
there was only water
it's what plants crave
what we're designed for
I keep flavored water and stuff around
I'll chug about about a litre of water when I'm thirsty. Good luck trying that with vodka.
I'm drinking a LOT of tea now
21:43
good substitute for alcohol
@KendallFrey I could easily do that with beer
i keep my wawa baba at desk and couch
@KendallFrey let's go
@SterlingArcher it's got*
ty
love that movie
21:44
everywhere i need a phone charger I have a big water bottle
I really only drink water and coffee (only coffee at work though)
Water tastes so good
I started cutting back on coffee.
the water here is not great tasting
one a day max now, then switch to tea
or maybe I will have a couple more
21:44
Tea is my jam, in particular Earl Grey
I'd drink coffee more if good coffee was readily available
the goal was to have a good cry with myself
@hilli_micha same
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Kratom tea
I wish drinking koolaid was acceptable for adults
21:45
first one in the morning with a touch of honey, then plain
not to go to sleep, now that I think about it
wfh doesn't take me to a Tims during the commute though
nothing sets off the flavor of water like some lead
I don't like honey, so I always do mine plain.
in the morning I like something a bit sweeter
but then for the rest of the day I don't like the honey in it
21:45
#boycottbees
@KendallFrey do you still wfh all the time or do you have an office?
What's your title?
I have an office at home?
What do you even do
writing JS in vscode with jsdoc types (that give you inference) is pretty legit
I thought your attic was your office
21:46
I wish you'd get type errors highlighted too
no im being serious lol
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Me too
@SterlingArcher It basically used to be an attic, even though the attic part is in a back room
He plays KSP while dreaming about making Haskell better than Lisp
@SterlingArcher Mr.
@SterlingArcher Code
21:47
ya but like are you a senior engineer? consultant?
He is also Canadian, isn't that a job title somewhere? Being Canadian?
code monkey?
i have no idea what you do outside of your hobbies
in flames did that song about him
@SterlingArcher pretty much. If I asked them for a title I think it'd be software developer
21:48
@hilli_micha only if you're a supervisor
@KendallFrey full time?
Job: Manager at Canada?
I write enterprise desktop software, I have no idea why I'm in the JS room all the time
@KendallFrey if I ever order more business cards, mine will say "corn coder"
@SterlingArcher yeah
21:49
Do you see yourself working there in like 5 years?
What do you really wanna do?
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Empty time
he works for his dad (iirc)
your mom
Besides your mom
so yea, probably gonna be a lifer
21:49
@SterlingArcher Depends how lazy I am
@KendallFrey you work for your dad yea?
for/with
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Work for dad from moms
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Sounds nice
It's not the most interesting but I'm not looking to replace it
@rlemon for
21:50
job security++
He owns (partly) the company that subcontracts me out or w/e
Interesting. I still don't know what I want to do, but this energy business is pretty nifty
so, if you miss a deadline, do you get a lecture at dinner?
or just grounded ?
We don't do deadlines
21:51
lmao
and he doesn't have anything to do with my work, he just signs the paychecks
do you do agile?
We say we do
are you agile?
allowance
21:51
I know this might seem basic... but what's a deep clone?
@ssube sort of
can you touch your toes? I can't :(
// this is a shallow clone, right?
var a = [1,2,3];
var b = a;
a[0] = 5;
console.log(b[0])
Can you touch your toes without bending knees?
@Vap0r A deep clone is when all the properties are deep cloned as well
21:52
@ssube lmao
I can
@Vap0r that is not a clone at all
@Vap0r so say you have an object with a property that is another complex object
@SterlingArcher it's not like I'm too fat either, I was for a bit, but now I just can't
@SterlingArcher I used to be able to, I'm less fit than I used to be
[...a] or a.slice(0) <- shallow clones
21:52
a deep clone clones the inner objects all the way down
my hamstrings don't cooperate
@Loktar We call those Ikea classes.
I stretch a lot because of knee injury, so I'm pretty flexy for a big boy
oops, was scrolled up
i used to hate when people lectured me, or even mentioned diet and exercise
now im that guy
21:52
I can't touch my toes, hell, sometimes I'm out of breath just putting my shoes on >:(
I did for a split second
it hurt
I can palm the floor
I'm flexible af
var a = {
  b: {
    c: 123
  },
  d: [{
    e: 456
  }, {
    f: [{
      g: "a"
    }]
  }]
}
var z = {...a}
console.log(z);
I can spoon the floor
21:53
@rlemon that copies them all the way down so maybe I'm not understanding?
Are a clone and copy two separate things?
@Vap0r const deepClone = JSON.parse(JSON.stringify(obj)); <- simplest deep clone
reference != copy
@Vap0r not all the way down
@Vap0r They're kinda ambiguous terms
and JS doesn't exactly have references either, but that's not important right now
21:54
@KendallFrey they're not
@Mosho they are
const clone = Object.assign({}, obj, [...deepProps]);
@Vap0r jsfiddle.net/y436f7aa but it doesn't clone it, it's still a ref.
Ced
Ced
is it possible to do something like this in es6 ?
`{ ...state, [action.payload.name].metadata : action.payload.metadata };`
@ssube I always wanted to be able to do that without crouching
21:54
Something like that I think does deep cloning
Oh? I've never heard them in a properly defined context
@ssube deep clone and shallow clone?
clone and copy
oh
clone and copy
nvm
deep and shallow are well defined
but clone is usually just copy by someone other than a copy ctor
21:55
I thought someone said {...object} creates a copy?
it's like helper vs ctor
I'm probably misremembering that then
@Vap0r a shallow copy
@Vap0r shallow copy
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it does
21:55
@Vap0r a shallow copy/clone
it copies the object, not inner objects
just the one level
@Ced yea, except the for the second key. [action.payload.name].metadata: is not valid syntax
lol got it, shallow copy
It assigns the properties to the properties of the other object, but it doesn't copy the values of the properties
Whereas a shadow clone...
Ced
Ced
21:55
@Luggage I know, I would like to find the syntax to do so in one line if possible
@KamilSolecki looks like you, but can't hold a conversation
[action.payload.name]: or [action.payload.name.metadata]: I suspect.
Ced
Ced
no, action.payload.name is a string. I guess it ain't possible
21:57
[action.payload.name]: is valid
a = clone(b);
const whatHappened = a.foo === b.foo ? "shallow copy" : "deep copy"; // assuming a.foo is an object (reference type)
@Vap0r ^
@Luggage computed prop?
@KendallFrey neat
yea. the key is from a variable.
thanks
21:57
np
Can you destruct a computed property?
So if I were creating an object based on an object in props, I would want to deep copy it so as to not inadvertently manipulate props?
only into a 'rest'
{ [ { derp } = foo ] }
that would make a dynamic variable, so no
21:58
mmm
const { knownProp1, knownProp2, ...otherProps } = input;
until some asshat adds [foo] syntax or something inane
if do makes it in, dynamic variables are equally likely
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Ced
{ myname: {metadata: {a: 3}}} // action.payload = { name: 'myname', metadata: {a : 4}}

the goal is to make a new object where myname.metadata = { a : 4 }
eval everything
// Something like
var newObj = {
    ...this.props.oldObj,
    Featured: true
}
21:59
const { [/prop[A-Z]/] } = input;
^ ^that's bad right?
@SterlingArcher if you want, I can destroy your property ;)
@Vap0r not at all
I use that in tons of places

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