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19:00
a generated report, though? I wouldn't consider that QUITE the same as, say, a JS bundle.
so... /static/html/reports
maybe some kind of caching layer
@Mosho does it need to be archived for later?
okay than attribute a magical understanding to yourself or others, not me
storage space is cheaper than cycles.
@rlemon that's the point of server rendering, yes
19:00
@Mosho then what was the point of the question :D
@rlemon The problem I have with that is that "magic" isn't a thing in itself, it's just a collection of things that we just put in a category.
@rlemon there are other options
That is, it has denotation but not connotation.
memory, database, a caching layer
I guess file system is simple and persistent enough
it connotes superstition, wrong thinking, gullibility
19:01
for now
@Mosho ohh, well, if a db is an option I'd choose that
it's for the mobx boilerplate
so maybe simple is better
it uses SSR?
ohhhhhh that SSR
I was thinking SQL Server Reporting..
yeah wasn't sure what you were talking about there :p
@KendallFrey so you have a problem with categories of things? :-P
19:03
@Mosho just toss the entire thing into a mongo document and pull the template from a static file.
re-render -> send
my brain was tainted with the thought of microsoft products
@TylerH If those categories have no connotation, yes
@rlemon mongo could work
doesn't mongo put people off though :p
if you want 'simple'. mongo (or any document store) would be a lot more 'simple' and still not bloat you with duplicate templates
well, dupe code in your rendered views
what do you mean by duplicate?
19:04
@Mosho it has a place, but postgres is almost always better. but a mongo document is super simple for something like this
mongo is fine for server rendered html that you can afford to lose and re-render at any time
I think even ssube would be ok with it (but.. really, filesystem is fine)
or.. better, memcached
@Mosho I'll admit, never done SSR. but if my understanding is correct, re-structuring from a single template and sending that is better than saving that populated template N times.
@Luggage does that mean shutting down = losing templates?
no idea. i don't use memcached.
that + filesystem?
eh wot
19:06
I'm using mongo for a project right now. only issue I have is when node crashes it sometimes locks the db
I saw mongo and my name and got worried
otherwise no real issues.
@rlemon typically there's no "templates", it's the entire document for each different page with different parameters
@ssube we're over engineering saving rendered html from a server rendered app
oh, yeah, memcached is good for that
gitlab does it with redis
you key the fragment by path, access level, that type shit
19:06
redis too much for this
lol
plus he wants then persistent on disk. not sure if forever, or juts to have a faster startup
redis is the littlest server of them all
it persists too
it's for the mobx boilerplate
redis is nothing. it's a tiny process until you fill it with goodies
filesystem, then.
19:07
yeah, same key
once I get my boilerplate done I'm going to whore it out in here and let everyone make fun of it till it gets perfect
>it depends on the server, how virtualized it is, and how big it is

Sorry, had to fix something. I was going to ping you directly bc I know you are devops. It's very virtualized (VSphere on-site), I was moreso wondering what the atypical solution is. (with the utility now, it takes more than a day)
what boilerplate? :o
if making fun of boilerplates made them perfect, no one would be making fun of boilerplates any more
I'm building the 'new app' for work as a generic app boilerplate
19:08
@jake are we talking like rsync or a full machine image?
@rlemon nice
ahh, the infamous 'new app' :)
@ssube I think just full postgres backups
@rlemon will it have pretty colors?
@Luggage in fairness, I'm on version 4 of the first app I wrote for the company, and in between two other projects started then were scrapped.
19:09
for postgres, I just use a combination of cron, pgdump, and tar/s3
so I always have a 'new app' going
never had to manage a postgres large enough to warrant anything else
I like re-writes. I get to undo the crap I wrote myself in in the previous versions
barman is supposedly widely used to automate tarring and shipping logs
19:10
Hi guys.
@ZahidSaeed Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
we're moving the work databases over to aurora so we don't have to do any of that stuff
We were just talking about how corporate would never tolorate a cloud, even though it solves some of our headaches (we host our own data center with redundant power, network, fire suppression, etc)
I'm working on the VueJS. For multiple components, I want to use the same stylesheet. Do I need to use <link> in page? or should I use <style></style> in each component?
Yeah, proprietary solutions + corporate firewall = 😰 & ⏳
19:12
@ZahidSaeed well if you have a single sheet you wanna include... looks like a job for link
@Luggage my last place owned hardware because the 150k every 6-9 months was cheaper than renting 3TB of RAM :D
is ssh proprietary?
... in the context of your statement
@rlemon The problem is, The login / register page has another CSS file while the dashboard has another CSS
so?
look at it this way. the css file is cached.
Should I combine all styles in 1 file?
19:13
so you download the compressed project css in the first load, every other page now just 'has it' if included without redownloading it
Yes that's right. The styles will still be loaded even if the user doesn't visit the dashboard
Is that okay?
so? what is the likelyhood they'll visit the login page but not the dashboard
and if they do, do you even care about those users?
@Luggage Its some gui, I want to convince not to fear the command line (plus its better)
Right
@rlemon Only 1 last problem which I think is problematic. The login / register page is using bootstrap v3 but the dashboard is using v4
Which one should I link up?
19:20
@ZahidSaeed lol
you should fix those two pages to use bootstrap 4
anything else is the wrong solution
Yeah right, I thought the same.
Thanks for the help
i knew something
thats funny
19:32
> despite the new technology, Buick sales remained stagnant.
ouch
I had a buddy who had one of the newer, faster ones. The magnetic suspension was nifty, but it still felt old.
Buicks are old people cars
unless it's an old century
then it's a college students car
then it's a drug dealer
grand national
19:34
OMG
3d printed shower head
cc@Loktar
Make a xenomorph shower head where it comes out of the little mouth
did they lose the cover bit?
it's on the printer.
fucking cover that spider hole
19:34
now you can re-enact that scene from Jurassic Park where Newman gets spit on
I'm still doing my PLA vs water experiment
but it's cold water, not hot shower water
how's it going? have you painted them?
I bought a can of primer and lacquer to go with the paints
wait no make your showerhead a butt
I painted mr. poopybutthole. and I primed a few prints, and I've spray painted another black
but I haven't done any detail work on anything but mr poopybutthole
lets see this butthole
19:36
@rlemon Noop Noop > Mr. Poopybutthole
invites Webster to a private room
> who the fuck is Noop Noop?
I'm not the best painter :D
@SterlingArcher make it a dick and call it your golden shower
19:36
noob noob
I thought it was noop
noop noob
no op no op?
sounds like a broken api
In computer security, a NOP slide, NOP sled or NOP ramp is a sequence of NOP (no-operation) instructions meant to "slide" the CPU's instruction execution flow to its final, desired destination whenever the program branches to a memory address anywhere on the slide. The technique sees common usage in software exploits, where it is used to direct program execution when a branch instruction target is not known precisely. Other notable applications include defensive programming strategies such as EMC-aware programming. While a NOP slide will function if it consists of a list of canonical NOP instructions...
19:37
He's still better
@rlemon You would shit all over the nop slide
@KendallFrey I stand Jordan'd
@rlemon one of the few I've painted so far
looks like you could have hit it with gray spray paint, then textured it with a sponge, and then added in the moss with a q-tip
I know how to paint, I just suck at it
i finger paint
19:39
I get impatient and try to rush things and fuck it up
almost every time.
I've been printing out a bunch of random tiny stuff
I want to make some of those tiny worlds
@ndugger does paint like it?
with like steel wool and cotton clouds
@ssube my boss has an obsession with ho scale
19:39
put the tiny stuff in and light it on fire, set off fireworks, etc
so I'm going to help him setup his scenes
take picatures
@ssube what its gonna be?
he's got a meeting room at work just dedicated to his trains
jfc
19:40
@rlemon same
my ho scale is pretty intense
you gotta factor in distance and everything
@SterlingArcher You do trains?
you are the ho scale
he means hoe scale.
he's being a smart ass
@KamilSolecki current plan, a tavern. There are tables, chairs, and people in the background. I just need more walls.
and then lights and fire
@ssube nice!
@KendallFrey every time I see this I can't help but think "what the fuck did you expect??"
I would have totally said hoe as well
yeah me too
its common parlance
19:42
a rake is an immoral pleasure seeker?!
it's a less common term
but it is accurate.
for a hoe. :D
rake = rakehell = trouble maker = hoe
In a historical context, a rake (short for rakehell, analogous to "hellraiser") was a man who was habituated to immoral conduct, particularly womanising. Often, a rake was also prodigal, wasting his (usually inherited) fortune on gambling, wine, women and song, and incurring lavish debts in the process. Comparable terms are "libertine" and "debauchee". The Restoration rake was a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat whose heyday was during the English Restoration period (1660–1688) at the court of Charles II. They were typified by the "Merry Gang" of courtiers, who included as prominent...
oh wow
til
Fuck, I'm a hoe
2
19:43
no you're a rake
and I'm a broom
@rlemon no, you are a horse
@SterlingArcher don't talk to me about mop
@SterlingArcher the broom is not wet enough to mop
19:44
there is no broom
@KendallFrey why? because you're cold as Ice
in C#, Jan 3 '13 at 19:56, by Ellie
@KendallFrey Nah, I just dragged a mop behind me.
because this conversation
The C# room used to be cool
@rlemon kek, I totally missed that episode
kek? What is this, 2008?
19:45
well, I did just post MOP
so maybe
never heard of it
I only listen to good music
old rap/hiphop band
I've seen your ear spacers, you probably haven't heard of them
I only listen to Smash Mouth
indie folk
I listen to all music. metal, grunge, hip hop, rap, country, polka, edm, you name it.
I get in moods that last months for a particular genre.
ive been liking techno swing
we going back in time!
@rlemon k pop
@KendallFrey is good, but the music videos distract me
can't hear the music over the laughter
19:48
one thing i never got into
as in music-wise
I only listen to Weezer songs that were released on even numbered years
@KendallFrey I haven't sat down and listener to it, but I have put on classical music to listen to
figaro is pretty good
so I can't imagine opera would be much different
My PR went from a 3 file merge to a 40 file feature D:
19:49
listener?? wtf me?
@rlemon to me it kinda is
sure, it's different. but they'd satisfy the same need in the moment for me I'd think
I've listened to opera on youtube when it comes up. I'm addicted to shows like got talent and the voice.
and like 1/10 singers does opera.
hmm. I usually rotate between electronic / hip hop / jazz / blues / rock / metal / epic music
It's the time of year I need to listen to PTX again
not strictly classical music tho
19:50
yea my main goto is metal, alt rock, grunge, and edm
@KendallFrey ahh yea
techno/folk/mashups
fuckin love them. but not their Christmas tunes. I'm a Bing Crosby kinda guy
oh look, they released a song yesterday
I only listen to Cat Stevens, post-muslim conversion
my gotos are elevator, hold, talk show theme songs
19:51
best christmas album ever made
the "very busted christmas" series I reccomend
Oh they have a new guy
WHAT?!
/me goes to look
Avi left, I guess
@rlemon you listen to 'that'?
19:53
@KendallFrey are you talking about the second black guy?
it IS a good album
> “Deck The Halls” features bass vocalist Matt Sallee. You can see Matt perform with Pentatonix on A VERY PENTATONIX CHRISTMAS and on tour throughout the holiday season.
Avi is still in it
oh, weird
19:54
I only listen to Indian pop music by Daler Mehndi
wait nvm
I get them mixed up
in vscode launch configurations, you have "{workspaceFolder}"
yea avi is gone. wtf
Yeah I was looking like wtf
do you have "{workspaceFile}"?
19:55
> Avi Kaplan was formerly a member of the group; he was replaced by Sallee in 2017.
yea I just read his reason
Hello everyone. I'm maintaning some old code from another programmer and I stumbled upon a repetitive if statement that could easily be replaced with a switch, I'm kinda lazy to copy and paste everything manually and wondering if I could regex replace it, but I'm struggling with the regex itself
> family, life, etc, but I'll still be making music
I get it, but man that sucks. and you could always just say "look I'm burned out"
ah, "{file}"
cop-out
19:56
@LucasBustamante ears perk up
makes sense
no, I'm the regex pro here, not kendall
@rlemon So far it sounds like they've worked it out ok
I'm pasting what I did so far at Regexr, just a sec
@ndugger Are you currently writing a regex engine from scratch?
19:57
yes
@ndugger wow you wish
in binary
/me bows
kendol dreams in regex
go away anime kid
19:58
@KendallFrey it parses Flavor Town syntax of regexp
Baka baka
!!get drunk or deal with reality
@towc deal with reality
brootal
buddy if your stackoverflow question includes the words "I want to make some kind of programming" you might be asking on the wrong site
19:59
!!burn
Nice tweet guy
Joel Spolsky is a turd
My favourite tweet about SO is still the rare manfeet fetish one
Wait Joel is gay and created Trello?
did not know

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