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19:00
I'll start interviewing tomorrow
ssube you're on top of the list
no, you don't get to interview. you gotta beg someone to save your damn life
it's a senior "stop fucking around"-man position
my resume:
a) I know how to cook
1) I have a headset and mic
3) it will be funny for me
@ShrekOverflow hard to answer if I've never used some of them :/
and it's apples and oranges
19:01
@ShrekOverflow simple, all languages suck. checked em all
nobody has voted seriously and Java is still losing
I've never seen gitlab before. Looks pretty nice
Free private repos is nice
COBOL's actually not that bad once you sell your soul and spend enough time in it
I'm a fan of gitlab
I am a fan of gitlab too
19:03
been running it at work for 3? years
not really, but whatever megre work I did
it turned out damn good :P
strawpoll.me/14253091 < Vote (Sorry I missed PHP there), The data will be used for a simple article.
Derp can't pin
ugh, I need to get more responses for my CI article
I'm still working on getting people to use git here zz
hey @FlorianMargaine, does your shop do anything fun there? Mind answering some questions?
It'd be awesome if BrainFuck and Java
end up at same amount of hate
19:06
If more people knew about rebel, more people would hate it
@Cereal I had a much easier time selling non-technical teams (which included QA at that company) on git once we had gitlab going
Cc@KendallFrey
the UI really made them more comfortable
s/ebel/lemon/
They basically do git manually. There's a change log in each file and every line is prefixed with a developer ID and change code. ANything "deleted" is just commetned out with the code of the person who "deleted" it.

It's gross. I have half the dev team interested in git though so here's hoping
19:07
lol
you can probably have half the team using git without the other half helping
just commit for them until the obvious advantages of VCS are obviouser
Yeah, but they've been doing this for 35 years
I get a lot of "but why, what we do works fine"
@ShrekOverflow Um, VB? wat?
where's powerbasic
I had to fix a program in powerbasic last week
I can make a new poll :P
with
ADA
BASH
C
C#
C++
COBOL
CoffeeScript
DELPHI
FORTRAN
GO
Java
JavaScript
LISP
MATLAB
OBJECTIVE-C
PERL
PHP
PowerBasic
R
RUST
SCALA
SWIFT
TypeScript
VB
@ssube The two of us should just go all Gordon Ramsay on him. What the fuck @towc, it's FUCKING RAW!.
FUCK
19:12
Am i missing something more hated there?
I missed a golden opportunity when he showed the chicken.
@ShrekOverflow jQuery. Coldfusion
Jquery isn't a language
@ShrekOverflow You're missing alphabetical order
@Trasiva that's the only description for it
19:12
@Cereal thats easy to fix
There
@KendallFrey @Loktar @hilli_micha and my weekend is set
woop
@ShrekOverflowdid python not make the list?
omg you got it
make me a dickbutt
will do
@rlemon omg the satisfaction when you puncture the wrapping on those
19:15
haha yea
@rlemon I look forward to seeing the piles of garbage prints as you hone in on your settings lol
^ lol
ohh, you will
I'm going to record all of the prints and upload to youtube
you can see failures in real time
twitch plays 3d printing
woop woop!
19:16
polish sausage is good but the burps are fucking nasty :S
@KamilSolecki when did you get to Canada?
@towc I'll add python, something else I am missing?
2 days ago, by rlemon
Twitch prints thing...nvm Twitch burns down lemons house
lol
Python 2.7, Python 3.0
separately
2.7
why would you use 2.3?
19:17
what's this poll for anyway?
I've never even used 2.3
@towc I am kinda writing an article.
On top of that :P
user image
6
soon he will reach his final form
what kind of data do you need?
19:18
ahaha
@Loktar no, leave it as is
also gonna send it to all the colleges that teach Java as first programming language (my old college included :))
lol
perfect already
SO survey has a "most unpopular language" probably
printing the head now going to take 18 or so hours
19:18
True :P
but thats just unpopular
@Loktar The lack of shadows is creeping me out
I am explicitely asking about productivity, fundamentals, abstraction of logic etc.
Alien lighting
@ShrekOverflow btw, most hated usually means least understood
(in the new avatar)
19:19
sometimes you can have very good reasons to hate something
@towc yeah, therefore updated language
lol man this thing is crazy though
@Loktar install ARDragon
@Loktar I see you've avoided showing any trimboard in these new pics
but most people will just hate something because they don't know much about it
19:20
😉
like Vue
I need to finish a few things make an etsy page and raise more money for a second and third printer
@rlemon haha
@towc VUE still sucks.
5
even when you know about it
how well do you know it?
I am a pre-sales engineer, you dont want to know.
19:21
@Loktar yea if I get any good models printed. my mom is a painter (like art, not houses) and I wanna see if she'll paint them
have you ever made an app with it?
professionally painted, 3d printed models.. I can see them being sold for okay cash
yeah that'd be cool, I bet you will want to get good at painting as well though
only thing is you have to pay attention to licenses on models
I'm okay, she did canvas and wood painting when I was a kid
a ton don't let you sell them which is annoying
19:21
so I kinda got into it
I wonder if you could make stuff like Perler beads with PLA
people complain in the subreddits all the time, and talk about how they confront dealers
it's sort of cringey tbh
@Loktar that's why I wanna convince holly to get good at blender
I mean awesome you made the model.. but I literally created it with my resources
holly designs them, I print them (lol), my mom paints them
3 way split
sounds fair :D
19:22
lol
My bid was accepted last night for my first house and I'm ecstatic
2
Grats!
the feeling is awesome
grats @Vap0r
Thanks man it really is. Especially with how frustrated I was getting
Finally paid off :)
@towc yes
19:23
@Loktar thx
now head to home depot and realise all the shit you need for a house
:D
Just like that, an entire store became relevant to me!
But yeah it looks like we might actually catch some winter this year and it has old windows. So that will be the first thing done
well, most of the people in this room hate on Vue without having even come across the concept of not using the global register
once they know it well enough and decide to still hate it, I might start re-thinking it
19:25
Name wasn't selected by me
point is, "what do you hate" is almost never a good question to ask, unless you're actually trying to see how misunderstood things are
@towc I also hate colonoscopy -- don't need to be an expert in something to have an opinion on it
@towc yeah I realized that, I should create a more exhaustive poll
@towc vue is the best
"I don't often remember your backside" Every once in a while Sky F1 commentators are interesting XD
19:27
@rlemon sure, you can have an opinion, but you might hate it less the more you do it
and not just because you get numb
but maybe you get into colonoscopies or something
weirdo
@Loktar wait is that real?
and realize that actually it's a really good thing you should embrace
@Vap0r please don't say things that are dangerously false. You might accidentally mislead new people and ruin their lives forever.
@ShrekOverflow lol yea
HOLY FUCK
19:27
been 3d printing it haha
I thought its AR :/
@Loktar how many hours total you guess?
So you probably have the most expensive halloween decor, I bet.
you said 3kg of filament total right?
19:28
that's where he started
@Loktar Just occurred to me how big it is
@rlemon idk man I started last Wednesday
@ssube I was trying to bait @towc but it didn't work
probably 130 hours not counting the failed ones
@Loktar incoming ping :P
19:28
just say shit about the slovak girl, works 100% of the time
@yall, what is your favorite/best way of remoting into your sever? I will be using it locally as well. Should I go VNC or xRDP or else? cc@ssube
@Loktar ohh god, failed prints at that scale must SUCK
@KamilSolecki uh, ssh?
yeah torso piece failed twice
but hey, free step stools
19:29
had a slight kink in the feeding tube I think (once it hit around 120mm or so)
replaced it and haven't had a failure since
@towc the slovak girl said you would best serve her by being an ardent opponent of vue
@Loktar lemmy take a pic of my roll
I expected it to be much 'neater'
@Vap0r she would never
it gets neat towards the end
yea, but the overlaps concern me
19:30
As long as it doesn't pass under itself it should be fine
and by "never" I mean "never talk to me". The rest is just absurd at that point
@ssube wait, can you ssh with a GUI? I basically wanna see all me pretty terminals, so I can put that on the second monitor
@towc oh but she would. Alas much like her forlorn love, Matei, Vue has disappointed her one too many times
@KendallFrey like this ^
?
should be ok
19:31
yeah that's how mine look
mine too
@KamilSolecki I agree with SSH too
I haven't had an issue yet fortunately
@KamilSolecki I don't use a gui on my servers, it's bad practice
so overlaps like that are expected?
19:31
yea
I do use tmux, heavily
yeah no roll of mine has been neat at all
I'm guessing they're more careful about legit overlaps than just alignment
until the last like idk 25% or so
@KendallFrey so this isn't a legit overlap?
19:33
not if the top one is first in the roll
If you use GUI on your server what's to keep adversaries from booting up visual basic and tracerouting all the IPs?
hrm.
I'll inspect it more once I get it out of the package
@Vap0r WAT
if it does, just unroll and reroll it?
How do I write unit tests for a virtual network card ?
19:34
Really the biggest problem I can imagine that making is a slightly bent filament that might stick somewhere. But really unlikely
@rlemon You could, but I never even worried about that
Becareful with it, it basically has the tensile strength of pasta while its on the roll, so it can snap.
@rlemon you might have trouble getting the filament in initially btw, I always cut mine to a point/angle and now it goes in trouble free
Mine has broken while left idle in the printer a couple of times
random tidbit
@Loktar good tip
about the good tip
bwahahaha
19:35
lol
just the tip
Oh yeah, mine too, the actual extruder entry hole only vaugely exists in some alternate universe.
and only for a minute
@hilli_micha hah yep
Unless you manage to get the tip of your filament down to a 1 dimensional length
Mine actually gets stuck on the coupler it feels like
the first coupler
read it's a common problem on FB though and to cut it to a tip
19:36
@Loktar What's the longest you've left it sit between prints?
the fucking spring is ridiculous though
@Loktar you gonna send me a list of the upgrades you've done?
@rlemon an actual overlap like this one
just post on my fb or something
^^ is a problem
19:37
@KamilSolecki can't tell it's still packed
sure, I've only done 3 really but I'll shoot you a message
@Loktar danke
@KendallFrey a week I think?
I had like one week where I didn't print much
not that long
It's kind of annoying to have filament break off when sitting
idk why it does
how much does the temp changes in your attic from day to night?
19:38
I had one break mid print
but it was shitty filament
@Loktar That is an infurating experience
yea I was pretty annoyed
@rlemon depends on time of year, but sometimes quite a bit
temp change could stress the pla
this filament had so many issues though, and was my first one so I was trying to figure out wtf was wrong with my printer
19:39
@rlemon weird
we have to deal with stupid temp changes from day-night in our moisture models.
@Loktar would you suggest I start with the AMZ3D stuff or the shit they sent with it?
I heard the sent stuff is pretty bad
What color is the included bit?
It's a smaller roll isn't it? Just enough to probably get the printer honed in.
.2kg
but I heard it is shit from pretty much every reviewer I watched
Yeah the tiny roll that came with my printer was garbage too
19:41
Mine was translucent, so in theory I could have kept a bit for flushing the nozzle
@KendallFrey I opted to put it together at home istead
@rlemon idk I'd just test it for the first print probably
so idk. haven't taken it out yet
the test one on the SD card
to make sure it's printing alright
@Loktar fair enough.
19:42
I think it's what they use there to test so good just to make sure your hardware setup is good
I didn't want to use the test prints
it's a stupid print for sure
wanted my first print to be special
but it at least lets you know it's setup alright
I'm going to half scale mine like you did
19:42
they do a print there before you get it as well
so it's only 45 min
so you might have some burnt shit that comes out
it did on mine and mutilators
@KendallFrey how special ?
I've never had burnt filement ever after that though.. ever
so it's kind of weird
@KamilSolecki It's my KSP flag :)
19:43
@Loktar ask mutilator if he minds if I add him on FB?
ha, noice
the more people I can ask who have one of these, the better
he isn't on FB
boo
are there irc 3d printing channels ?
no idea actually
19:43
damn
if there are they probably have like 10 old farts
well what good are you
/s
Thingiverse has a very active forum, specific models too
@Loktar So 9 more of you
@hilli_micha yea I'm arrrrrlemon there
19:44
@KendallFrey 😋
Honestly thingiverse bores me, I got a printer for "maker" stuff
@KendallFrey like what?
!!tell rlemon kieran2
@KendallFrey Wow that was the most meta-tech-hipster statement I've ever read.
19:45
@KamilSolecki you got a 3d printer?
I'm going to put that on a wall somewher.e
@KendallFrey LOL
well the LOL is more in ref to @hilli_micha comment
@rlemon useful doodads, like that clip you posted, or fucking around with mechanisms
but yeah I can see that
@KendallFrey there is a tonne of that on thingiverse
just not under the popular category
19:46
@rlemon I mean that 90% of the fun is designing something
ohh, well yea I guess
but I'm not quite there yet
I printed that, so cool
and the gear heart
my fav thingiverse prints
That's a fair point, I actually really enjoy the 3D modeling aspect.
I wanna print the iris box
that looks neat
19:47
@rlemon kind of
single print
technically right now its becoming a PCB engraver
they have a pumpkin too I need to print
you seen the iris boxes?
19:48
I printed a bunch of puzzles
single print, cut a few tabs, bam
functional iris box
@KendallFrey You ever feel that doing parametric models is a little overkill for stuff? Particularly if its an object that you don't really need to have the ability to adjust dimensions?
Cubic trisection is a good one, easy to print, great for frustrating people
@hilli_micha Then you can just not adjust the dimensions
thingiverse.com/thing:1817180 probably going to be one of the first ten prints I attempt
a lot of the time it's not harder to make it parametric
19:50
@KendallFrey Right, I feel in the same boat, I like understanding that my model actually has a 'skeleton' of sorts, rather than just dumb shapes stuck together. But I wonder if I'm just reinventing the wheel at times, you know?
I don't really know, lol
I love parametric modeling
I like it, it is actually part of my job. So that numbs me a bit I guess.
Look at that fancy auto-leveling laser.
@ShrekOverflow VB privilege escalation via graphical user interface injection with a portable in situ database layer hosted on the mainframe
CSV 31337-n00b
19:53
why would you even want VB on server?
s/on server//
It used to be a 3d printer like yours, but then I took one plane off
and now its 2D engraver (soon to be)
well PCB engraver *
not bad
@ShrekOverflow I'm sorry are you still taking me seriously? I was using the oft referenced hollywood hacking trope/meme
19:55
> portable in situ
lol
And the CSV for the vuln lol
@Si8 then it would be a different question/answer. — Kevin B 55 secs ago
@Vap0r mazel tov on the home bid acceptance by the way. Still near Tampa?
also close that question
@hilli_micha todah! Yes, but just over one of Tampa Bay's bridges in an area called Clearwater
> graphical user interface injection
would that just be a form? hahaha
Ah, very farmilar with Clearwater, my wife's grandparents lived there for a while. They were just off of SR 60
19:59
@hilli_micha small world! My new place is just a couple blocks off 60, about halfway into Clearwater
Maybe we're neighbors o_0
Hah, no, her grandparents don't live there anymore, and we live in orlando
So an hour out.

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