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09:00
Trolling is strange..
Madara, I have flagged that comment, but I see a blue icon now
Since when is that there ?
(well , I rarely flag comments, so just curious)
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@KarelG Always, AFAIK
09:18
Hello. Anyone bumped into this No bundle url present error with react native ? The PC froze and had to force restart it and now the app won't run. I'm tempted to react-native init in a new folder and start anew
good lord, I'm having a meltdown here
what's wrong?
@GNi33 What's happening?
google tag manager -> enhanced ecommerce tracking
I can't freaking do this anymore
No idea what you're talking about :D
09:29
I just needed a tiny vent
Good enough?
PERFECT
a little dissappointed that there's no banana for scale, but it'll work
09:43
heat issues ?
09:54
online marketing issues
ghostery ftw ;)
@BenFortune I think you are the first person that I know with a cartoon-worthy name. Don't take me wrong though, I think its awesome :)
Fortune is his middle name
So whats his last name ?
Cookie of course
duh?
I know, I'm the king of horrible jokes
10:02
@GNi33 i hate you
I had to ask :|
user1731387
how to make image size bigger in col-xs-7
user1731387
?
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10:17
i want to increment the value from 10to 100 and after incremented it will stop that point for example 10 20 30 40...100  i used Math.random() methon in javascript but it display as randomly ....this my code below
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k @CapricaSix but i want to know answer for this
@abdul Math."random" should already tell you that it's ... random
use a simple loop. Either for or while.
10:20
i want to stop the value as 80 and arrow as 80 how can i set that?
read the docs ... even the webpage you've shown contains the answer
@CapricaSix view demo structure in that example
@BenFortune 2.9
> The arrow and band angle is updated via setValue() and setStartValue() / setEndValue() API functions respectively.
please don't be that lazy developer.
also @abdul CapricaSix is a bot..No point in asking the bot
10:33
@KarelG i gothroughed already thay code but i have a doubt into that please help to solve...!
gothroughed is my new favorite word
@towc oh thats good
@rlemon How do you deal with having many RPI's on the same network?
In regards to updating, sshing in, maintenance
developer problems prntscr.com/fookoq :D When the cat won't get off your keyboards
10:52
@BenFortune I'm afraid to say that I barely update them
if it works then I let it so until I moved on to next project
@KarelG You got many?
How do you deal with uniquely identifying them?
currently there are 4 at home
Oh, I'm talking about ~100 šŸ˜ƒ
@BenFortune don't they have different IPs and mac addresses?
so you just make a dictionary?
@BenFortune MAC ...
10:54
what are you doing this for?
super secret work project
Not really, it's a global scanning network
sensor networks ? :P
They're all running electron
Or will be
if you're scanning the globe, wouldn't it make sense to have them on different networks?
what is each one doing?
just fyi, I have a text file that maps a pi with their MAC address
10:56
Scanning, barcode scanning
you can do the same
What about SSH keys, going to be a pain juggling ~100 keys
Never done anything like this, so any ideas are welcome
11:24
I've created a subnet specially for those rpi's
Can't do that unfortunately
but i've barely knowledge for that (ssh mapping). Maybe is what I did an ugly approach :P
i just manually copied over a private key, and kept public one hidden on my server
@BenFortune What if you have the devices phone home and update themselves?
user1731387
please help me out of this
11:37
@VJRagavan not so simple when it isn't clear what the problem is
@KendallFrey Yeah, that could work
i'm trying to use angular2 services and come up with a page navigation nut I'm getting the following error.

ERROR in C:/xampp/htdocs/interactive Resume/vcv/src/app/emp-list/emp-list.component.ts (6,42): Cannot find module './emp-data.service'.

ERROR in C:/xampp/htdocs/interactive Resume/vcv/src/app/emp-list/emp-list.component.ts (23,21): Property 'service' does not exist on type 'EmpListComponent'.

ERROR in C:/xampp/htdocs/interactive Resume/vcv/src/app/app.module.ts (53,15): Cannot find name 'EmpDataService'.
11:54
yo
@BenFortune my devices call home
thanks bbz
I should do that too I guess
12:11
I feel really worried about the state of schools :/.
o.O ?
do you mean the state of education itself or the state of the buildings ?
Guys I am an amateur programmer. Can I ask you guys a question?
You don't need to ask to ask
sure, ask :)
@KarelG state of education itself
buildings are pretty good
12:20
okay :) What was really bugging my mind was, how come people answer questions here by reading 100 lines of code? I tried it but I find it very difficult to understand the code even though I know javascript or any other language. What do I need to do to improve this?
but I feel really sad anytime I see a science class or the way it is taught
can you elaborate on that ?
Did a talk today rhetorically asking college students, out of a lead ball of 3kg and an iron ball of 1kg which will fall faster. Most said 3kg T_T
@MightyGodLoki usually experience. But there are people that opens up their IDE to run the code.
@MightyGodLoki practice, and developing a mindset in which you look for certain things
12:22
and "knowing" doesn't mean that you comprehend the language in its depth
@Shrek College students said this?!
T_T yes. Well CS but still :/, I mean not to say CS students are bad but if it were mechanical engineering I'd probably disintegrate
ya thank you. I'll keep that in mind :)
Doesn't matter, that's elementary science!
yes.
12:24
I just see so many people writing so elegant code that I get really mad about myself thinking why cant I write code that way. But I think I need some professional experience
I usually just write code for fun and create simple things
Not trying to start anything political by any means, but this is exactly why we have climate change deniers
@MightyGodLoki pick up a project.. start writing something.. learn for that.
The people I am talking about are of age 25-30 and I am just 21 aged undergrad.
@Shrek tbf ... it depends :D
in vacuum they will hit the ground together
dont think that matters.. @MightyGodLoki
12:26
in air ... there is a friction of air
a lot of us here are below 21. Still, that doesn't mean you can't become a great programmer soon
> a lot of us here are below 21
@suraj yeah i kind of do that. But those projects are simple and mostly not industry level just hobbyist types.
Now it all makes sense
@KarelG You trolling?
12:27
no.
I'm 27 and started developing when I was 24, and now my applications are used in hospitals across my state
@Kramb Bravo!
@towc have those people had a programming job or just enthusiasts?
depends on who you ask ;)
@MightyGodLoki don't listen to towc
12:28
Towc is like 17 iirc and he codes better than I ever did :D
@Kramb what did you do to improve so quickly?
Had no other options, it was either learn it or else
Hospitals also install ransomware on the PCs
That's not a good quality indicator
So does your gorvernment, without your knowledge
on all computers in its sphere of influence
@Shrek lookup for inertia
12:29
hardware rootkits :P
@KarelG Not exactly related but try watching youtube.com/watch?v=cB8GNQuyMPc
@OliverSalzburg my country had lots of luck by coincidence ... We have avoided most wannacry damage because of ... the terror attack last in march
@KarelG inertia is resisting acceleration. Doesn't really matter when only gravity is at play. Maybe you mean air resistance?
@MightyGodLoki I tried reading documentation, that didn't work for me. I tried watching YouTube, and that helped a little. What helped me the most was to sit down with the MSDN tutorials and work step by step with them
Calculate the volume of both the balls and then calculate the difference in time
12:30
what is your secret to be a great programmer @towc?
Also, Adderall
I'm not a great programmer
@MightyGodLoki He sacrificed 3 virgins, drank the blood of a virgin goat and sold his soul to Satan.
but I think it comes down to not have excuses to not learn stuff and experiment with it
also, respect causality
@towc You earn more than I do :P
12:31
@Shrek well we have lot of cows in our country. are they okay instead of goats?
@MightyGodLoki If you are talking about India, you might actually be considered as Satan for killing a cow, I strongly recommend against that. Use people, nobody will notice </joke>
@Kramb ohh thank you :)
but from what I can tell most good developers I know
are self taught and keep programming for the heck of it
and keep learning while they do so
and also trying to follow industry practices for your side projects
helps a lot
And if you're in the early stages of learning, it's good to use Codecademy. That's where I started when I was still in my early months
@Shrek ya well I am going to hell anyway so its okay :)
@Shrek ohh okay that is helpful :)
I'll remember those things
12:34
I started programming when I was 13
The most important thing to remember, IMO, is that technologies are changing daily. If you try to keep an application up-to-date with the latest tech, you will never finish. So finish a project in the tech you started with and make updates later.
I program OK, but I can credit to my career choices.
okay great advice you guys
This is my biggest flaw
@towc was talking about dropping the balls in vacuum, in response to Shrek's "You trolling?" The inertia is at play here
12:36
does inertia affect anything when the only force acting is gravity?
the acceleration is the same for both balls. That's what gravitational fields do: apply forces to masses in a way that they all end up having the same aceleration
and acceleration is what matters when timing things
not force. Well, not in this case
ah yes inertia appeals when there is no vacuum
...
ok my bad
something something general relativity
hey guys a question

how do you reference a book like this? http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783540292449
12:38
inertia always appeals as long as there is a mass and a force. But in some cases, it doesn't make a difference
@KendallFrey now, now
@Suisse What format?
@Shrek really though, the uniform falling is so much more obvious when you think in terms of curved spacetime
Author: "Booktitle." Publisher
you are changing the mass itself
12:39
@Suisse ISBN 978-3-540-31665-7
ah you also can just give the ISBN?
Is this sentence right "That sounds like a good idea, it will mitigate many problems in future" ?
@Kramb I have not decided for a format.. what is common?
@Suisse yeah, that's kind of what it's for. It identifies the book
@towc but for the reader its not so cool?
12:40
@Suisse Depends on the context I guess
@FlyingGambit Technically it's two sentences, they're separated by a comma instead of a period.
and to make it easier to see what the book is, also add title and author, maybe
the reader wants to see the book title?
@Kramb which context? haha its a bachelor thesis
but in order to make sure they got the same thing and they can find it online, use ISBN
@Suisse Where are you referencing it, and for what purpose?
12:41
@KendallFrey I was more concerned with the use of the word mitigate. I will make it two sentences. Thanks :)
I mean are you referencing it for a works cited?
@KendallFrey yeah bachelor thesis
No one appreciated my intentional faux pas :(
@FlyingGambit Wouldn't a ";" be more appropriate seeing as how the subject of the first sentence is "that"?
@towc the book I linked ( springer.com/us/book/9783540292449) has not "Authors"? what means "Editors"
12:45
@Kramb I will keep that in mind
@BenFortune just read that the UK government has a new aircraft carrier that has systems that runs on ... Windows XP
@Suisse There are authors. The authors are listed with each paper. It's a collection so the book doesn't have a single author
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cc @Mosho
So if you wanted to reference something in the book, you would reference it like: Paper Title, Author, Book
morning everyone
12:48
@MadaraUchiha lol
@Kramb you forgot the page ...
I was reviewing code this morning and at some point, I created like 20 api calls that all did the same thing with different urls. This is the second or third time this has happened. I swear I'm a different person in the evenings lmfao
@KarelG Oh yea, that would probably help too lmfao
I don't want to check the whole paper to find that conclusion / findings that someone wrote in his thesis
ah Dutroux :|
@rlemon lol I love the one where they specify that the boy/girl twins are fraternal
Damn, I'd never heard that one. That's creepy and saddening
Heh, the Coke one again
@SterlingArcher musclewiki.org
nice
@rlemon You have effectively stalled my progress for the morning lmfao
13:05
nice
> Bux barista here. I just didn't know you could spell it Ashleigh (were trained to ask). But there is a much more sinister conspiracy going on.
Ever have a little coffee dribble out when you're drinking, even when the lids secure? If you line the mouth hole of the lid up with that little overlap line that runs down the side of the cup, where it's glued together, you're leakin.
Sometimes it's just an accident; sometimes its your attitude
haha just got to that one, that's pretty funny
@rlemon +1 and dips is a nice exercise
covers chest muscles, shoulder, triceps and part of your back muscles
but didn't know that you can train neck muscles
I don't think I'm going to do that. Otherwise I would have a bull neck
it's missing side-bridge tho
I never realized just how fucked up the whole WMD and Iraq thing was. I knew it was falsified but never realized the lengths that some of our leaders went to to conceal the deception. Like holy shit.
@KarelG You should see how F1 drivers train...
13:22
@Vap0r Exactly how "the right" are saying, "but is colluding with Russia, really illegal?"
The attempts to conceal anything by our gov is laughable at best
I don't think it's quite like that.
Just a modern example of concealment
Yes, but there's concealment through obfuscation and there's concealment through elimination of those who might bring to light the secret. Currently we are dealing with the former whereas we (US and UK) practiced the latter in 2003.
What do we have in javascript for async operations? I mean, something which is comaptible with Internet Explorer
@KendallFrey
takes a bit to load šŸ˜¬ but worth it
13:31
@ErroreFatale promises
@ssube they are not compatible with IE
@ErroreFatale they most certainly are. It doesn't provide a native implementation, but bluebird is better anyways.
or other polyfills if you find bluebird to be heavy.
there are many
But which version of IE?
You can just use core-js for most of your polyfill needs
13:39
IE9+, as usual
@KendallFrey I've never been in a F1 car. But the seat seems ... uncomfortable
you'll have a hell of a time finding anything that does 6-8 anymore
fed govs ?
@KarelG I've had very similar seats before and they are anything but.
lol
the feds are still on IE5 for Mac :P
@KarelG uncomfortable? They have to be comfortable because of the g forces. The seats are custom molded to each driver's body.
13:41
So, ssube. I am trying to get a virtual machine migrated into a company. They allocated a new machine but said they need more time to 'harden' it. When I suggested we can just move the old image over they got annoyed that all their work was a waste. My impression, just from that, is that they are incompetent.
it's just a weird sitting position for me
@Luggage Yeah, what are they hardening? I've never "hardened" a machine past throwing it in a security/firewall group. I'd be a little sketched out about blindly importing a whole box without some really good outgoing firewall/audit rules, unless it was something I was already using.
yea.
a jet pilot has a better seat if you ask me
@KarelG Well yeah that part is slightly weird, but it's necessary as well
13:43
pilots can sit a lot higher than drivers
as a tall person with a short car, it's a necessary evil
well, after I said I'm willing to use their instance, they quickly gave into moving the existing image becasue it was easer
@Luggage lol. It sounds like they got carried away and then pissy when you pointed it out.
what does the box even run, if you can say?
yup. still a bunch of fools there.
13:44
@KendallFrey yeah the cars are low for the aerodynamics. At the end you have that kind of seat.
is it a huge, complicated system or just a few daemons?
my web app, postgres, redis
ffs, that should be a copy and paste
what are they doing?
I can reconfigure a new machine in a short-ish amount of time, but it's not all automated, in ansible, yet
@KarelG Just curious, what do you think of driverless race cars?
13:44
well.. they aren't installing that stuff, just allocating a machine for me to do that
They could maybe get even lower
they don't even know what I use
migrating something like that was my first task at my current job and took a day or two, with no developer support
mostly because of ruby/rails versioning issues
it's been over a year.
I'm working with a new guy since the last one is gone.
A triangle shaped vehicle with the max height = wheel diameter.
(roughly seen from side perspective)
13:45
a year of "just allocate me a machine, damnit"
that's pretty bad
it's humorously preposterous at this point.
@KarelG triangle?
you mean three wheels or...?
(BTW, driverless race cars already exist, or almost. roborace.com)
that's more efficient but is less stable :P
I think they're aiming for real races next year
I'm super excited
13:48
that design. Superb
that whole top surface will act as a wing and help the suspension
why not just have a person lie down the middle?
I would love to drive that around
it's difficult to rely on screens when driving
you could probably rig a periscope with mirrors
Anyone know in a template file, how to concatenate a variable inside a if statemente?
It looks a little restrictive in terms of aerodynamic tuning, at least in comparison to F1
But if they're going for a spec series that's fine
13:50
Like below code:

<% var stepItem = 'step' + i; %>
<%= stepItem %>

<% for (var j=0; j < result.steps[i].stepItem.fields.length; j++) { %>
@Tarcisiofl What language is that?
@Tarcisiofl java scriptlets is a medieval thing ... but you can use .concatif it's a string`
it is using Sammy.Template from Sammy.js Framework
oh lol. nvm my comment
13:52
you should probably check their docs
dat similarity
crap. i forgot to make a new account for this guy before I spent a long time copying down this 20 gb image.
@ssube with promises I can run heavy operation without freezing the user interface?
and I don't have a vmware license
Their docs are horrible
13:53
@ErroreFatale it depends on what you're doing. Any IE solution will involve breaking the operation into parts, and promises will help you link those parts.
Better browsers could use a webworker and not have to worry about it, but IE.
Ok
thanks
@KendallFrey feeling productive?
no, why?
@ssube may I vamp all over your face for a minute about VMs?

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