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20:00
Shitttt, president just came into my office and was like "so, how's the attendance tracker going"?
I guess no email was needed.
Showed him what I got, what I have left to do, need to setup a meeting for Tuesday where I can demo it and it's ready to go.
@SterlingArcher Why, sure
but it's no more clear than your first version.
attendance pro
Good news is I have more time to work on it, bad news is I don't have more time outside of the new few days.
so basically you peed yourself and said "yea.. doing great"
20:02
@Luggage no more clear? Lambda not clear?
haha...basically
Or just "why"?
I mean, while I love destructuring, is it better than:
items.forEach(item => addData(item.data));
Afternoon :)
20:04
I'm basically out of a job if I don't finish this by Tuesday lol.
@Luggage good question, is destructuring the property slower that accessing it?
@Waxi the same job you've been bitching about for months?
Better than being out of a job if you do finish it, I think? maybe?
I'm not sure, but it gets you nothing in terms of readability, in my opinion.
@Claies Glass half full kinda guy.
@Waxi well, you are back where you were. needing it done immediately. There is always something that'll take longer than you expect.
also, you show someone screenshots or a complete-looking UI, they'll think it's done.
for better or worse. They think THAT was the hard part.
20:07
Yeah I know, I could fake the interface completely, make it seem like it's live, but shouldn't have to.
Without being in the room with you, I think you just told this guy it was done. Instead of speaking up about it not being done, you CONFIRMED it was.
could be wrong... wasn't there.
@Luggage promises are confusing
I said it's about to be done, really close, like another day or so.
@JoeSaad they get easier.
ok.
@SterlingArcher You should totally learn a language with pattern matching in function definitions
20:09
F#
Or Haskell :P
@KendallFrey I'm not a clever man though
@KendallFrey @SterlingArcher youtube the music video for Duck Sauce - Big Bad Wolf
I .. I can't even
But you could learn lots of cool things and become clever
ok, hoping so.. getting promises in my console, now trying to extract values from that promise
20:10
Learning a functional language will be very useful and enlightening. Just, for christ's sake, keep it to yourself if it's haskell. :)
@JoeSaad You can't extract a value from a promise synchronously
Haskell makes sense (mostly), F# is just, ugh
I think you mean to say cents. Haskell makes cents.
F# is quite nice (better than C#) but the syntax just isn't as clean as Haskell's
Haskell might be great, but this room has a history of people leanring it, then never shutting up about how awesome it is. :)
20:11
it's like taking a square, cutting it into two triangles, and saying it's twice as good because it fills two holes
@rlemon bahahahaha
@rlemon Hardly.
yea, I guess you're right. that's over shooting.
I was the same way to my friends when I first 'learned' f#.
I say 'learned' because I never used it for real work, just exploring what functional programming was all about
"omg, f# says the funniest things, you should read this."
"no, shutup, luggage"
@rlemon I... I'm pretty sure... I've already seen this.
20:15
how would i handle a post request in node where i do something asynchronous and then send information back to the user when its done? is it within the context of the same post request?
There's one thing about F# I really really want
dimensional data types
@rlemon It's great isn't it?
ohh, right. like being able to define the 'units' of a number?
@Zirak I feel like I need a shower tbh
@Luggage yeah, as in "this method only accepts numbers that represent velocity"
20:18
yea.
if you are on windows, LinqPad is great for futzing with f#
(or c# / linq)
I miss it.
I loved LINQPad
Now I just use dotnetfiddle
now I want to whip up a cross platform linqpad replacement with electron.
I won't. That's a lot of work.. but.
can dotnet fiddle compete with linqpad's dump()?
@KendallFrey so what's the way to extract.. from reading the articles, seems like putting the value in variable, and use then on that variable?
you have to use .then() to access the result of a promise
yes that's what i'm using.. yet when i output it's giving me the Promise object still
20:23
Then don't output a promise
Do you mean outputting to the console?
i'm just outputing the result of that variable which i thought should be resolved after my .then
.then() does not return the result of any promise
all the promise methods return a promise; it's the callbacks that recieve the resolution result
wasting your time.
ok
@Luggage thanks
20:27
any time
ok, thanks Fillip
reading into it again.. it hasn't been a straight forward subject for me
maybe some images will tickle the right spot ponyfoo.com/articles/es6-promises-in-depth
thanks again.. i'm looking into this one now..
20:45
lol I underestimated the amount of work I have left, naturally of course.
Gonna have to get a little more granular in my data storage for this shit to work.
steam winter sale here we go boys and girls
Planet Coaster has my vote.
@waxi only 15% off! and "Warning: This title uses 3rd party DRM (Denuvo Antitamper)"
any open world-ish games like FO4/skyrim coming out?
Skyrim just re-came out you casual, re-beat it
20:48
@david If you're OK with that and like amusement park management games, it's unequal in quality, the best one made to date.
...
that's all i've been doing for the past few weeks
:p
i'm 142 hours in
@KevinB have you tried a level 1 playthrough? That's what I'm doing at the moment
I have not
what's... the goal?
Finish the game, on legendary
just finishing everything without progressing your character at all?
20:49
without ever entering the levelup screen
I own a lot of new games, but I just keep playing my $20 Rocket League, so good.
i mean, i don't even play on legendary normally, :p
Easy to play, hard to master = best games.
you still gain skill experience, so your stuff gets 'better', but you don't get talents
and shops never stock anything above steel quality. you have to do dungeons to get even orcish weapons
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used to play halo on legendary with all the skulls on :D good times
20:50
Right now i'm set to Expert i thnk, could probably bump it up one or two
@HatterisMad Talk about TBT, jeez.
lvl 20, playing a sortof.. paladin-ish build
just got the dawnguard hammer
i started off as an angry hammer wielding orc
with a heavy focus on conjuring summons to tank things
because legendary means things deal a lot of damage
I saw a daedric priest build that interested me a bit
but now i just use a bow because it's less frustrating
20:52
but i'm trying to not look too much into it atm because i want to do more with my current build :p
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i still just play ranked 5v5 in league of legends :D
can't stand pvp games
what on earth is a daedric priest build? o_O
it's a conjuration build that goes around collecting all the daedric artifacts.
run around with molag bol's mace and sanguine rose
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i dont enjoy playing against npc
20:54
Has anyone here implemented quad-tree collision detection before
@HatterisMad Come kick ass in overwatch with me
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@Zirak i tried it during the free weekend and it didn't excite me enough to buy it
@lix you probably don't need that for your asteroid game... just use a grid
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its good just not what im looking for
@HatterisMad That's because you didn't play with me
I'll excite you
20:55
unless you're going to get a quadtree library to do it for you
( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
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i didn't enjoy the tanks and healers in the game
@david but what if I want to have 200 asteroids?
@lix even more reason to not use a quadtree
So just good old bounding box collisions?
20:55
afaik those structures are better for really sparsely distributed entities
@HatterisMad Really? I main support in pretty much all the PvP games I ever play, and haven't had as much fun as I do in OW
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@Zirak is this an actual invitation? like if i buy the game you will play with me?
if you have heaps and heaps of asteroids the quadtree just reduces to a grid anyway, but with more overhead
Where did you like those roles more?
@HatterisMad Occasionally, sure
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@Zirak i played support when i played halo competitively
20:56
I play with some room members occasionally
@lix nah, just divide up the game area in to x*x squares and keep a list of entities in that square
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i wonder if i buy the game if i am able to share it with my gf cause she wanted to play more than i did
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can two people use the same blizzard account on different computers at different times
It's connected to battle.net, so she can if you don't mind sharing a handle
AFAIK
@HatterisMad eh, not really
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20:57
as long as they don't mind the users are 9000 miles away from each other on each login :P
definitely not if the same game.
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at different times, not at the same time
yes
but
if you use the battle.net launcher, it'l log you out every time
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oh thats fine
really sucks if you're using an authenticator
20:58
@david I have no idea how to do what you just said :/
otherwise it's just a matter of password saving
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i have starcraft 2, and hearthstone but i haven't played SC2 since it came out and hearthstone but maybe once every few months
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i dont think authenticator works for my phone
I'm mad at Blizzard right now for what they did to Diablo, but SC2 is still a solid game.
i want to have a user's text highlighted (or font-color be red) for any word that my server determines doesn't exist. should i use server-side templating to do this?
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20:59
i have yet to see a bad game come out of blizzard
Anyone on Xbone doing Rocket League? I'll love you long time.
@Waxi tried path of exile?
OW and hearthstone were pretty bad
:p
@david Not yet, everyone says it's decent.
@KevinB I'm having a blast on OW
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21:00
overwatch and hearthstone are probably the best games in their respective genre's right now
@waxi yeah, decent is probably the best description. It's fun but not groundbreaking
it's good at scratching that itch though
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even though i have a bone to pick with both of them
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i still have to admit that no one game feels as good as they do
@lix is your collision detection too slow atm?
I don't like either of them, or HotS, but that's just because i don't like the genre
21:01
if not just leave it
@HatterisMad I'd say Battlefield 1 is the best overall shooter out right now, but Overwatch would be the best competitive shooter.
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no shit, blizzard does have an authenticator for windows phone
@david I don't have collision yet (aside from boundaries) but I'm just trying to figure out an appropriate way to do collisions
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halo was the best competitive shooter... until they made odst and ruined the franchise with every game after that
so um.. rendering engine?
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21:02
gears of war was also a very good game
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i dont really enjoy the battlefield games, just feel like another cod at this point
@lix looping over all 200 asteroids won't take very long, i'd do that for now and leave the optimisation for when you need it
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the original battlefield game for the xbox was amazing though
Destiny has some of the tightest controls I've seen in a shooter, almost worth playing it for that alone, but I think it's dying?
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i played destiny but when i played their pvp balancing sucked for their classes
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21:03
so i stopped playing
@david so just loop via 200 asteroids and generic bounding box collision? sounds good I guess
or rather axis aligned or w/e people call it
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they also didn't deliver on the procedural generated dungeons that they promised when i was looking at buying the game :/
Destiny's Vault of Glass raid was so much fun...miss that.
Compared to The Division's "raids"...if you can call that, which are complete shit.
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i still miss the old school runescape grind
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i loved that and the original combat system that was lightly influenced rng
21:05
The Division could have been an amazing game that retained people had they used a proper PvP system, instead of the shit they made up that nobody liked.
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fighting anything felt like gambling
@HatterisMad +1
@lix yeah you can do AABB, or you can do a circle check
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@Meredith i still have one of my accounts
21:06
I still have mine
I suppose aabb wouldn't work because it's a triangle or rather an equalateral
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i log on once every 6 months or so and then sigh and log off
I don't need to waste more of my life on that game though
The only games I'm looking forward to are For Honor and Red Dead Redemption, everything else is just whack.
Lots of nostalgia though
21:06
has jsfiddle dun goofed for anyone else?
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@Meredith i had an account from december 2004 - market crash 07
@lix calculating actual collisions between triangles would probably be too much of a pain in the arse for too little game, i'd stick with simple first
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and then sold it because they ruined the game
Nice
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then realized i wanted it back and created a new account that i then leveled back up
21:07
I should've sold my account lol
@lix if you calculate the distance between the 2 items and check if that distance is smaller than the sum of their radii that will give you a decent enough collision check to start with
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the first account was a lvl 108 / 126 at the time
@david Yeah I'll go aabb first and see what happens, Thanks a bunch for your help over these few days mate
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the second account is like 114/? dont know what it is now
I didn't know it at the time, but this apparently is a Blizzard product...
21:08
It was 138 when I stopped
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jesus
@HatterisMad halo was so great
@lix no worries, games are fun
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@bitten i actually flew out to california to play in an mlg tournament back in 09 for halo 3
Actually wait they changed the formula
I forgot
And then it went up to 200?
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21:09
WHAT
LAN Halo was best Halo.
Yeah I remember it a lot better now
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lan halo is <3
I had completely forgotten about it
I was upset about it
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do you ever play anymore/
21:10
No
@HatterisMad How ya do?
I quit in college cuz it was affecting my gpa lol
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they have old school servers that i would play on in a heartbeat but i dont want to make a new account
I only participated in one tourney for Halo and ended up losing to this mom and her little son (they camped in the water at Zanzibar with sniper rifles for 5 minutes)
@lix looks like AABB checking is fairly easy: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Games/Techniques/…
21:11
HL and HL2 are $2 each. I know nothing about them, but I assume they're at least mildly fun.
@david Yeah out of all the collisions I've looked at aabb is the only one I've implemented before
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@Waxi i had a team that i was playing in online tournaments at the time and were top 50 worldwide. They dropped on me after i bought the team pass and plane tickets. I ended up picking up a few free agent players at the tournament
Dang that's messed up.
@lix that link also has stuff at the bottom about "Separating Axis Theorem" which would let you do proper collision detection later on
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@Waxi we won our round of 256, and 128, got knocked out of the winners bracket at 64 and then knocked out of losers bracket by the #1 seed pro team at 64
21:12
@HatterisMad that's cool, which team did you play for? i used to watch mlg
@HatterisMad Yeah the game kinda sucks at low levels
@Luggage i was doing it the right way from the start and unfortunately i was looking at the wrong place in the console.. I got it working..
And it's such a grind to get to the point where you can enjoy the game
Maybe they made it less grindy but I don't plan on going back
@FilipDupanović thanks for the help and the articles
And it's such a grind to get to the point where you can enjoy the game
21:13
@david Thanks! :-)
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@bitten that team name we made up at the tournament and i don't remember what it was
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@bitten on gamebattles back in the day we used to have a team name of Mutual Assured Destruction
Ogre twins anyone lol
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which is when i changed my name from Mad Hatter to Hatter is Mad XD
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@Waxi i used to practice against the ogres, walshy, t2 and carbon back in the day
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21:16
was an mlg 50 and we would go in with our team and play scrims vs the pro teams in matchmaking :D
@HatterisMad Shittttt son, taking it back.
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walshy actually came over and scrimmed us before our first match at the mlg tournament
heh walshy is still pretty active
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was a really cool guy in person, spent a lot of time talking about kianeto and kids he was doing charity work for
What was the name of their team? I forgot.
21:16
maybe even the twins
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final boss?
final boss
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all of the other pro players were kinda douchey
Yeaaaahhh that's it.
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you try to have a normal conversation with them and they would just walk away when they got bored lol
21:17
The only team I remember was Str8 Rippin
Those were the golden days of gaming, where Halo was still the gold standard and everyone played it.
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honestly the worst pro player i ever had to play against was T2 from Str8
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Tom was unable to ever kill anyone with a battle rife in 4 shots
21:18
lol
I'm getting sad thinking about the good ole days.
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that is why he picked up sniper or rockets every single time they spawned
@Waxi have you seen the smash bros documentary?
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cause he was useless with a BR
@bitten I THINK I have...I'd have to check.
21:19
@bitten I think more people know Halo though than Smash Bros.
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if anyone wants to play some old school halo 3 on xbox one add me, my gamertag is the same as my SO name
@bitten Ah nah I haven't seen this one.
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@Waxi probably not, halo had a short run compared to smash
it's long but split up into episodes that are like ~45 minutes each
it's worth the watch
@HatterisMad That may be true, but it still felt like Halo was more popular, that more people knew about it.
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21:21
it had a large casual population
I'd say, I got beat by a mom and her like 6 year old kid...so yeah, it was large.
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wasn't lil poison was it?
What happened to Halo though? How come they couldn't keep it going? I heard the new one is not bad, but I don't know anybody that plays it.
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@Waxi the games were godawful
too much auto aim, games got super casual
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21:24
bungie fulfilled their contract with MS to make three halo games, so microsoft created a new company to maintain and develop Halo on out
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the new company was super pressured by microsoft to cash in on the gameplay mechanics of COD
and it was hard to balance them competitively
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look in the difference in the game between halo 3, and halo 3: odst
Ah that's a real bummer.
Bungie lost their touch cause Destiny wasn't it.
i stopped playing at halo reach
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21:25
@bitten actually reach, halo 4, and halo 5 all were competitively salvageable titles
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but 343 refused to make maps that were arena style
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so there wasn't even a suitable map to battle on
The last one I played had the perks like jet pack and stuff, it was actually a good Halo game.
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capture the flag was removed as a gametype....
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jet pack and sprint ruined halo
21:26
@HatterisMad That's terrible.
i found it hard to technical in 4+
comparing it to h2 that is
Yeah it had no place in Halo, but the base game was still solid.
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@Waxi halo 5 just now (over a year after launch) just got more than just slayer gametype
ahaha @david It's working seemlessly atm
wow I was overthinking the complexity of that completely
You weren't a real fan unless you were playing the original Halo online through xbox connect on the computer. (I think that's what it was called)
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21:28
yep
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it was
@Waxi heh i didn't even need xbc, we used to lan it :3
@lix yeah, quadtrees are quite a hefty structure
You did both, c'mon now.
they work really well though for some things though
21:29
I also just realized that my triangles are very almost rectangles, so aabb is working nicely. Not pixel perfect but I suppose optimization can come down the line
but it's mainly in situations where you have a lot of empty space that you can skip over
@david I think I'm just eager to progress onto more complex structures for learning pruposes
@lix yeah, that's why people use AABB, it's fast and easy and usually good enough
@Waxi haha i did, but i mainly lan'd and played halo pc
21:30
@lix I find it's much easier to experiment with complex structures once you have an actual working "thing" to experiment on
Yeah that's a good point, rome wasn't built in a day kind of logic
yep, and you have more confidence in what you're doing
if you have some kind of working collision detection, and then later on swap it out
you know that anything that is breaking is probably a result of the swap, not something else that's going wrong
it kinda... isolates it a bit? I dunno
There's a technical term for the above, I've forgotten it but, incremental development is better for longevity so I'd have to agree
vertical slice?
21:35
@david yeah :D
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@bitten to get fair matches in matchmaking back in the day we would be forced to bridge hosts to one of our teammates so we wouldn't get modded :(
aw i could never work out how to bridge host
lol
@HatterisMad I remember doing that and also abusing it by dropping the other team and getting the win.
My biggest accomplishment in gaming was cheating in Moto GP to get to the top of the leaderboards
You'll go far in life
Thank you, but I was first cheater on Xbox Live...gotta count for something.
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21:40
@Waxi i only ever dropped anyone if they would start threatening me. You start threatening me and you are going to get a timeout.
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i never did it to affect my matchmaking rank though... wanted to make sure i was able to compete at the highest skill level
Yeah Halo was prime for me...best I ever was at video games. Kids these days are friggin' good and school us older folk.
Has anyone run into an issue with jquery ui autocomplete where you can only click on it once and then you have to refresh the page to click a selection again? 1.10
yeah, i think the same for me. halo was probably my best game
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nahh :) i can still get on and destroy them no matter how rusty i am
21:42
i reached 50+ on h3 slayer on a few different accounts
it was hard
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i had 50 in slayer before the mlg playlist came out, and then reached 50 in CTF and in MLG
Which Halo had the ranks like that?
Our squad had like 50 in everything, I remember that...we were so damn good.
halo 3
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i had a winning streak on one of my accounts that was 117 games straight and the account got banned because they thought i was modding to get that winstreak lol
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halo 2, and 3
21:43
oh yeah, and 2
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the other halo games has it but its hidden (aka useless)
@SomeGuy lol, after the first paragraph, I was like "OK, it's a D process stuck in NFS" after the first ps, I was like "uh why don't you show the process state?", and i was waiting all along if it was going to show the stack file...
Yeah I think I can comfortably say I've spent more time playing Halo games than any other game.
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same
Damn that's depressing that Halo ended up the way it did.
21:47
@Zirak :)
Maybe they can bounce back down the road.
i used to make montages of h3 actually
Halo birthed montages.
Halo's theme song is one of the best for a video game. I can listen to it today and get chills.
21:51
yeeah
nice
I lost my shit when they were like at E3 and they showed like a 15 minute trailer demo of the silent cartographer and when this music came on...fuckin' forget it. I'd be hard pressed to experience that magic again.
@bitten yung bitten was lit af
haha!
it was just a bit silly, and i stopped playing around the time i made it so that video was never even finished :p

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