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me?
@IvoWetzel The #top link can be moved off to somewhere else, category link would make more sense
awesome :D
@YiJiang I moved it to the category titles
so you have to click twice but meh
2 days on my bounty -.- no-one answered over the last 5 days. Damned waste of rep!
@YiJiang maybe increase the size of h2 a bit? Looks too small to me, should be somewhere half between h1 and h3
16:04
@MylesGray tada 1k
@YiJiang Hovering the intro results in a shift
Hmmm... truthfully speaking, I don't think we need those links anymore
Having them everywhere is just confusing
hm, indeed hm
we should better spend some time thinking about how we can shrink down the nav
@IvoWetzel Simple - show only links in the same category as you are viewing now, only expand on click
or scroll
16:07
w00t
:)
should be simple to plug that into the current highlight logic
Both, but we'll still only have a maximum of two category open at once
well if you click it, you jump = scroll
style them, I'll do the jQuery magic
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A: Redirect website with htaccess

Myles GrayRewriteEngine on RewriteRule (.+) http://newdomain.com/$1 [R=301,L] RewriteRule 301 http://olddomain.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/abc-1-thumb.jpg http://newdomain.com/403.shtml

some people just dont RTFM
I use this method on 4 URLs on my site fine
What's the best advice in this case?
0
Q: Is there a jQuery construct for "if (typeof someVar === 'undefined')"

FantiusDoes jQuery provide a way to to that test in a more concise way?

16:21
isFive(4) isTrue(true)...
Gosh, I need to sleep now. Sorry @IvoWetzel, but I'll need to continue tomorrow instead.
isFive(4):(
@YiJiang No problem :)
Good night then
What do you think would happen if I asked "Should I use jQuery" as a question?
Closed as subjective etc
16:26
I think alot of people would be like YES!! OMG YES!! Why must you even ask such a silly question!
I guess I would write "Use jQuery instead" as an answer
Is it considered poor etiquette to ask "funny" questions like that?
Can I phrase it so it can't be closed?
What about something along the lines of when is it best to use jquery, and give some examples
unless that has already been asked
Besides if your not doing any DOM or Ajax then theres no use in jQuery
Are there smaller ajax libraries then jQuery?
Can anyone spot noticeable error :
$(document).ready(function() {

	$(".tip_trigger").each(function(){

		//Caching the tooltip and removing it from container; then appending it to the body
		var tip = $(this).find('.tip')

		$(this).hover(
            function() { tip.appendTo('body'); },
            function() { tip.appendTo(this); }


	).mousemove(function(e) {
		  var mousex = e.pageX + 20; //Get X coodrinates
		  var mousey = e.pageY + 20; //Get Y coordinates
		  var tipWidth = tip.width(); //Find width of tooltip
		  var tipHeight = tip.height(); //Find height of tooltip
16:33
//Caching the tooltip and removing it from container; then appending it to the body
var tip = $(this).find('.tip')
Forgot a call to .remove() ?
You don't have to use remove() when moving elements via appendTo(). The elements will be automatically removed from the old location before being appended to the new one.
really?
user492203
Hi there! :)
@Nyuszika7H hi!
@Nyuszika7H Hey dude whats up?
@Raynos - Perhaps one for you?
3
Q: How do you grow beyond web frameworks to create your own application framework?

greenagainWeb frameworks are great. I consider rolling-your-own without considering popular open source libraries is a design smell. So if someone were going to start a web project without using a popular server-side web framework like Rails and a popular client-side framework like jQuery, I'd think that...

16:52
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A: How do you grow beyond web frameworks to create your own application framework?

RaynosI don't really do much with server-side frameworks because our ASP.NET backend already handles the 90% and all the custom server-side controls everyone else has written deals with that last 5%. In term's of client side there is little you can do apart from writing generic re-useable controls. Th...

Stop thinking I can answer generic large-scale design questions :P
I need like 5 years of experience to give a good answer.
user492203
Can I move the caret all way to right in an input field, with setSelectionRange?
@Nyuszika7H sure
user492203
@Greg How?
@Nyuszika7H first focus the input, then setSelectionRange(inputText.length);
user492203
@Greg It doesn't seem to work… jsfiddle.net/Nyuszika7H/HTPvP
17:03
@Nyuszika7H what do you actually do? Do you just hack around in JS all day?
user492203
@Raynos nope
this.length === undefined
@Nyuszika7H is this what you want?
this.setSelectionRange(this.value.length, this.value.length);
for some reason, you need to specify the start and end ...
Hi Guys there is a 3 for 2 offer on at OReilly books, I'm definitely buying Crockfords book: oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517748, What do you guys think of these two? oreilly.com/catalog/9780596806750 and oreilly.com/catalog/9780596806132?
user492203
@Greg yeah :)
17:07
Not the cookbook
patterns is meh compared to the definitive javascript
user492203
0
Q: jQuery - do .serialize() the right escape?

markzzzHi! I've already done a function using .serialize(). This is the function : $('form[name=contactForm]').submit(function(e){ e.preventDefault(); $.ajax({ type: 'POST', cache: false, url: './ajax/header_ajax.php', data: 'id=header_contact_send&'+$(this)...

@Raynos I was going to get this: oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101992 as it is ebook available
Yeah that one is good
I suppose if I read the definitive guide and The Good Parts then i wouldn't really need patterns or High Performance? I might be best branching into a framework book?
@Raynos what do you think of: oreilly.com/catalog/9780596159771
patterns & high performance might be usefukl
Let me search oreilly for a generic book about programming
I've found the cookbook mediocre.
17:14
is cookbook a series of theirs?
I have an old CSS 2.1 cookbook
was good enough... very tutorial based rather than theroy
I see. I found the cookbook to tell me things I already knew and be outdated
the issue with those things is that javascript is so outdated
I can imagine the cookbooks being like w3schools
A generic book like : oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126 comes highly recommended
Ahh.. oh dear
They also have code complete (oreilly.com/catalog/9780735619678)
I would take one of those two
@ircmaxell will hit you if you dont get code complete
@IvoWetzel vim is... worse then emacs, worse then emacs etc. etc. etc.
2
@Raynos I already understand basic programming constructs, loops, var scopes, variables all the usual stuff, it is the actual language specifics that I have the trouble with
@MylesGray don't mock code complete 2 & the design patterns
There so much to learn from code complete
I need to read it.
17:25
@Raynos Okay, I'll take you're word for it, thanks for the advice!
Code Complete is a software development book, written by Steve McConnell and published by Microsoft Press, urging developers to get past code and fix programming and the "big design up front" waterfall model. It is also a compendium of software construction techniques, from naming variables to deciding when to write a subroutine. McConnell defines the main activities in construction as: *detailed design *construction planning *coding and debugging *unit testing *integration, and *integration testing Although he does not dismiss the value of other aspects of software development such as ...
user492203
17:39
‘‘Fancy quotes!’’
@Raynos No I won't. I recommend it to everyone, but I won't hit anyone that hasn't read it. I just won't hire them ;-)
Ahh crap
user492203
(function (§) {
	§('#hello').append(' – this was inserted using jQuery');
}(jQuery));
all that and they dont accept debit cards
or paypal >.>
... your kidding me? not even VISA debit?
17:46
nope
thats what I have is a VISA debit
have you tried just doing visa credit with your debit card
some of these companies are retarded
Go get it from amazon.co.uk
I've tried on a few sites before with no dice but I'll give it a go again
amazon doesn't have all the nice formats that Orielly do though
amazon has the same books :P
user492203
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A: Add OR operator to SO URL's so multiple categories can be broswed at once

martin claytonYou can already do that, using +or+: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/css+or+html

user492203
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if a question had the tag.
user492203
17:49
2410
Q: List of freely available programming books

KaranI'm trying to amass a list of programming books with open-source licenses, like Creative Commons, GPL, etc. The books can be about a particular programming language or about computers in general. What are some freely available programming books on the Internet?

@Raynos true but oreilly allows download in pdf, epub, mobi, APF and DAISY formats
with amazon you are stuck with their ipad kindle app
user492203
If I search for , I get all questions!!!
@MylesGray ah I see.
That one is pretty neat
@Raynos Bookmarked, looks neat
user492203
Can we get § in Harmony, for variable names?
17:56
@Raynos - Don't accept VISA debit as a VISA on orielly
shit
@Nyuszika7H can I punch you in the throat?
Any thoughts on the navigation? dl.dropbox.com/u/2332843/garden/index.html [WIP!]
And don't complain about the style
I just want feedback on the function :P
@IvoWetzel Very nice
Actually i want to have its children
That feedback okay? :)
user492203
@IvoWetzel Nice! :)
user492203
18:02
@Raynos no
user492203
@IvoWetzel add a small animation. To the main section
you mean scrolling on onclick?
user492203
@IvoWetzel Thanks for this!
user492203
for(var i = 0; i < 10; i++) {
    (function(e) {
        setTimeout(function() {
            console.log(e);
        }, 1000);
    })(i);
}
18:05
@IvoWetzel yes
@IvoWetzel also it's ugggllllyyyyy
it's WIP
what did you expect?
user492203
@IvoWetzel WIP?
@Nyuszika7H Work in Progress
Can we have an option for different colour schemes?
Some people prefer white code
@IvoWetzel I second @Raynos suggestion, Soh Tanaka has something similar: sohtanaka.com/web-design/simple-tooltip-w-jquery-css
18:11
hi
thats epic!
@Raynos Ping YiJiang or file a bug :P
user492203
@MylesGray @IvoWetzel This one is better: flowplayer.org/tools/tooltip/index.html
I like how the compiler doesn't complain when I call Set[1,2,3] rather then Set([1,2,3])
@YiJiang @IvoWetzel ping. White code styles rather then dark code styles could be cool
hmmmm...
user492203
18:14
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@MylesGray wheres the change colour scheme button?
@Raynos - see on the left?
the T->T button?
Ah that
It doesnt change the code?!
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18:16
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In principle it's similar to what needs don, it is a trivial change in CSS
added scrolling
needs more... duration
needs more... win
18:30
@IvoWetzel Ease-in ease-out would be nice
user492203
@IvoWetzel No, please don't scroll from the top every time!
@MylesGray Added easing, but still, if you the scroll "distance" is to far, then it becomes reaaallly fast
@IvoWetzel I see it now... Looks great over the short distances, you could accordionise the content too?
18:46
I applied some trickery
@IvoWetzel I think the long wait for scrolling is a bit tedious :S sorry
@Greg I'm not happy with it either
@IvoWetzel Jumping from intro -> core in the right hand menu opens up types for no reason
I think I'd like it more without the 5 second animation ... 1 second max
@Raynos I need to disable the scroll handler on document during scrolling
18:49
maybe no scrolling for the sake of it?
@Greg I updated it, has lees scrolling now
@IvoWetzel that's much nicer :)
@IvoWetzel Very swish, thats hot
sigh people never learn
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Q: Alinging problem (image+ text)

AzaraTHi, I'm working on an image gallery, and I have some problems with aligning of text below the images. Whenever the text fill up more than one line the image gets moved up, which I do not want. Here's a screenshot describing the problem: Image of problem I've cut out the images, but you can see...

19:24
grats @MylesGray
@Loktar thanks man :)
1.5K next target
19:40
wahey im losing points :D
 
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20:43
@Cloud9IDE, Amsterdam
Open Source Javascript Cloud9 IDE. For Javascripters by Javascripters. Powered by Ajax.org.
407 tweets, 1.7k followers, following 1.7k users
If you wanted that beta then ping him
he seems to be activating people that go out of their way to ask
21:12
@Raynos sweet, ty. I'll do that
4 more up votes to the cap...
 
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22:22
@Raynos do you have to ask via twitter?
@greg don't know. i emailed them saying I think I was bugged and they activated me.
All I noticed was that pinging them on twitter seems to pull you higher up the list.
you was bugged?
Directly asking for an account rather then idly sitting in the waiting list is better
I thought I was. I wasn't
what is 'bugged'?
nothing
Thought there was a database conflict on my name
22:38
thanks for the tip @Raynos
Has anyone implemented test from commonJS ?
pinged them about activating mine
Good luck
22:55
Im unit testing my unit tester using my unit tester >_<
run({"test run": function() {
     assert(run(foo) === bar, "circular references incoming!");
});
@Loktar what does pinged mean?
messaged
It means you messages someone on twitter
23:18
Anyone want to give some feedback on the test ? github.com/Raynos/nodegameframe/blob/JVWorking/test/test.js
It supposed to implement CommonJS Unit testing 1.0
23:59
Just got activated
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