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18:00
ya want fries with that?
ya want my foot with your ass?
@SterlingArcher $('tr'), done.
@SterlingArcher if you don't mind
@SterlingArcher That dude that commented before you, what a bleak fucking profile.
@Trasiva Not sure what to make of his edit. Funny that he actually did it, sad that it's actually happening.
18:05
Assuming it's true.
I'm gonna set myself a reminder to see if he's worm food in four years.
I refuse to be cremated.
@Trasiva How blue
da ba dee
Stephen Hawking is the one with the handkerchief
@SterlingArcher What? They can't spend $5 on a fucking puff cover for the camera mic?
18:09
Um, do you see where they are drinking?
@SterlingArcher It's actually called `straya.
@rlemon I didn't think there was a time where he wasn't crippled.
@Waxi ....
I didn't think there was a time where he was ever young is more accurate.
The guy didn't even really have an onset of ALS until the 1960s.
18:14
@rlemon Fuck, next time warn me when I'm watching a full length movie. I'd have made some popcorn.
How can I remove in plain js a elelment? like ( blah.hide(); in jQuery ( I saw some things like style.display = 'none';
@rlemon omg, so much cultural appropriation. He must be denounced. Come, to the Twittermobile!
@Duikboot style.display = 'none'
@tereško ?? the fuck you on about
I am makin a prediction
18:15
@Trasiva well yeh: jsfiddle.net/4aLfb93u
But it's not hiding! :D
someone will fell that is insulting fee-fees of somebody else and there will be shitstorm on twitter
@rlemon well that wasn't morbid at all
@tereško I think we, as a planet, have accepted that the British used to be super duper extra shitty.
that's kind of why everybody stomped them in a few wars and stuff
@ssube you havent been on twitter lately, have you
no, I don't have an account
well, I probably do, but I never use it
18:19
try keeping it that way
got it @Trasiva ;)
yeah, I don't feel any strong urge to write very short and insubstantive messages
@Duikboot Okay?
I know what your problem was.
But it was obvious enough I didn't think I needed to answer.
18:22
As JS dummy, are large applications still written in plain/vanilla js? Or are always frameworks used nowadays like react/etcetc
Ani
Ani
I wanna develop things ... please give me some good projects or problems which i can develop using JavaScript ... Thanx !!!
Make a game
codeschool.com
@Duikboot Be smarter with your code and use for...of like this.
18:23
@Trasiva too fast you, I was just learning that :D
they have good tutorials and tests at the end of chapters
@Ani come up with an idea that interests you and is pretty small, make that.
Isn't tic tac toe the starter game they make people do?
@Duikboot We use 'frameworks', or more accurately, 'libraries' whenever appropriate.
Yay Fidget Cube was funded on kickstarter
I'll be getting mine in december
18:25
@Waxi Never heard of tic tac toe being used, mostly because unless you make it two player they gotta write logic for the 'AI'.
Tic Tac Toe is simple enough that the 'logic' can be written in a very naive way.
Or start with "pick a random unused spot" as the "AI" and improve from there.
It still coveres event handling, state, etc.
Probably not too many levels of skill in that game lol.
Or even just let the human play both sides. It's still a good starter game, I think
Here's some of my literally first ever codes
PHP/Java
18:27
teaches you React and all that, plus you can keep the logic on its own
my first code is long gone
never to be found again
I started to work on a horse racing simulator last year, should probably finish it and make lots of monies.
My first code was lost with my first TI-83+ calculator.
my first real project was an order form for directtv
Yea.. To put it another way, I bet a veteran's tic tac toe (no AI) will look way differnt than a noobs, showing there there are things to leanr in just that simple game.
18:28
bunch of jQuery and a PHP backend
is 'first real' 'first paid'?
the only thing I don't regret about it was using .htaccess to secure it
@Luggage yeah, but in my case, also first large and completed project
@Trasiva basic or ASM?
The first thing i wrote while being paid was an html page with a circle that followed the mouse
@Luggage Basic, I wrote a shitty version of Paper Boy.
18:30
I didn't do any large projects of my own design until my second job. I started just maintaining some legacy fuel software.
Trasiva Boy, Trasiva Boy. It's all about that Trasiva, Boy
I see mixed opinions on whether html/css is considered code.
I wanted to improve it with ASM, but my parents freaked out when I started writing it in notepad.
In MS Access... My first paid programming position was VBA..
2nd was a task management system with integrated calendar, email notifications, scheduled tasks, and approval queues
18:31
my first code must have been copy-pasting the javascript to cheat at cookie clicker
@Trasiva smart parents. notepad sucks
@ssube my first real job was stealing directv
Eh, notepad got me by for years
@Luggage This was back in 2004/2005. We didn't have the nice things like Notepad++ and stuff yet, at least not that I knew about in high school.
That doesn't make it good.
18:32
@rlemon after seeing the pricing sheets, that was tempting.
@taco Man, Notepad got me by for so long in my early dev years. Then I got to use Frontpage and Dreamweaver.
Whatever reseller business was going on, they were talking $200/month for single digit mbit.
they had better-than-notepad in 2004..
@ssube I worked for the people who found out how to steal dtv in Canada in the 90's
satellites are shitty and we should stop doing them
18:32
yeah, ditto. I used notepad during the Windows95/98 days
like, who even is into satellites?
i used some kind of... spider named editor
forget exactly what it was called
@ssube Well, Space-X WAS...
my first code editor
Earliest piece of 'code' I remember writing was in middle school doing the net send to message other students while on their computer. I was regarded as 1337 back then.
18:33
@ssube what is that?
yay more electronics to play with
@Luggage DarkBASIC, for game dev stuff. Got it on a CD in the back of a book when I was... 13?
I had no idea high-power resistors were... well... bricks.
I went from notepad > notepad++ > vim > sublimetext2, 3 > atom.io
high power = low resistance?
18:34
I might still have that book. The whole thing was a bday present.
@Luggage high power dissipation
@Waxi net send * Hack the planet!
@KendallFrey yea.. i think you need that with low resistance. e.g. a ballast resistor on an ignition system in a car.. 1 or 2 ohms at 12 volts.. that's a lot of power to dissipate
brick+heatsink
18:35
now I'm wondering how an LED does it
cause they're way smaller
@Trasiva so far so good.... jsfiddle.net/15rf74j8
time to make it dynamic
when i first started here they gave me dreamweaver, few months later i moved to eclipse and used that for years
LED aren't 1 ohm OR they need an external resistor
Yeah I get that
My biggest claim to fame was Comcast sending me a letter via snail mail telling me to stop hacking other customers or they will shut me down and pursue legal action. The hacking they were referring to was me being a script kiddie and using Sub7.
18:36
but something like a 3W LED is still pretty small
I would hide the trojan in a Simpsons screensaver and email them from a fake email.
maybe the fac tthat light comes out is another way of dissipating that energy instead of heat?
probably
That was back when screensavers were actually a thing.
My first intro to linux was a slackware CD on the back of a book about "the world wide web" I got back in windows 3.1 era.
maybe windows 95..
Then I spent a few years being @towc
18:38
and it was the best time of your life
Yeah, ditto @Luggage but mine was a Mandrake distro
I used Mandrake until it died :/
@Luggage I got an old version of OpenSUSE from somewhere, maybe something my dad had lying around.
worst. linux. ever.
btw, I settled for debian i3
18:39
@towc but no internet (that I had) to help me. A book and a CD.
damn
oh, you want to install a package? well, wait until the next time you go to the library, then try
i3wm - tiling window manager
18:40
using an OS and only having the software that came on the discs (all 8 of them) was nuts
mine are way bigger
10W, slightly smaller than my pinky
I have more ;) these were just on my desk
Those are apparently for high voltage as well
cuz math
honestly, in my time I don't think I can imagine how a world without (intensive) internet could be like. Not to make you feel old or anyting, but I just can't
18:41
I get it. I can't imagine it either
oh hell yeah, my two way mirror and shadow box were just delivered
@KendallFrey well, think about what we do
gonna build that mirror tablet tonight
industrial farm stuff
@rlemon I have no idea what voltages you'd be using
18:42
all of them
@Luggage not having the ability to consult the internet for OS installs counts as non-intensive internet for me
For all I know your systems could run on a 9V battery
I can't imagine a world without SO.
I can't imagine a world without me
Yea. I mean that, even though I lived it, I have grown so used to the internet that I can't imagine going back.
But.. you just have to be more patient and figure things out instead of looking ofr ready-to-use answers
18:44
Whenever the next blackout occurs, we'll see how many people lose their minds.
I think before I had the internet I used CDs
I used to read books too
@Waxi uh, phone?
@KendallFrey tbh I think we mostly use them in testing, they are not in any products we sell.
Is it bad that I read that as cooldowns?
read what as cooldowns
CDs.
18:45
oh, hah.
"compact" discs. Hah, compact.
speaking of blackouts... I should get some solar panels.
sneezes and loses 4TB worth of data on a micro SD card
not for power outages, just because
Living off the grid in the middle of a subdivision is legit.
@ssube most of my coworkers are under a company called Silk Road
@towc call all the schools you applied too and tell them you're no longer interested, I found your new life goal. mitpe.mit.edu/Pirate-Certificate
@ssube I saw that, it made me laugh.
@KendallFrey what does it do?
18:50
@ssube Writes code
(it's our offshore company)
we got a call ONCE in my 5?6? years of working here, a lady thinking we sold clothing dryers.
she never read the website
@KendallFrey ah, your ukrainians
@rlemon lmao
we had some ukrainians, before they became russian, and before they started sending us code in PHP when we specifically asked for Java
s/ukrainians/involuntary russians/
18:56
Do employers really care what school your degree came from? I'm sure the big tech companies make a fuss about it, but I can't imagine majority caring or even knowing the difference in schools.
absolutely. There are a few schools that will make us throw away a resume right off the bat.
anything for-profit and you're in the bin before we even read your experience
no, but it certainly can be used to filter applicants when there are thousands.
Dang that's brutal.
a local school, St. Thomas, has a "computer science" program that is 100% group activities and is very light on actual code, so those tend to be bad candidates
but mostly, putting a for profit college on your resume, regardless of your field, will disqualify you
eww for-profit
18:58
it shows that you not only have no idea what you're doing, you're also not smart enough to even look up the school you're going to
maybe check if the feds are suing them before you go
I went to W3Schools.
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OK, gonna go educate myself real quick on the differences between for-profit and non-profit schools cause no idea how that ties into the education they receive.
we all did once upon a time
if you see a resume with somebody coming from Best Buy or Target, or another shop known for pulling in crappy contractors and spitting them back out in 3 months, why waste time reading it?
it's the same with really bad schools
@rlemon @KevinB lol
@Waxi well one is a business and the other is a school
@Waxi for-profit schools are ones you don't really have to 'apply' for, just pay for. They are often online, sound too good to be true, hard ot flunk out.
basically, pay for a diploma.
Hello everyone! If there is anyone willing to help with Karma testing? I don't want to create an extra question for my issue.
@user5554178 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
@Luggage and they have commercials
the biggest tell-tale is if they have TV ads
19:03
they get money from number of students enrolled too so there's a ton of weird advertising
then they inevitably lie about job placement to get more funds
@Waxi think: Trump University
America's first for-profit president.
From personal experience no school == 100% job placement
My sample size is 1 tho
well, in the programming field..
it happened to the Art Institute, DeVry, Corinthian, and a pile of others.
19:04
make that 2.
eh, school is technically what got me here, but not because of the school
just so happens to be where they looked
technically school got me my first 'career' programming job
my only college experience is from nights and weekends and not classes
it was elearning
;) :D
only college course I've ever taken was stats in HS :\
it ruined me forever
19:07
I took two weeks of college.
Then I realized it was dumb, and wasn't going to get anything out of it and left.
called the school looking for a web dev, professor suggested me, i went in and interviewed, and got the job
Hello, everyone! Sorry to interrupt your discussion. I have an issue with Karma test file. I keep getting an error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'mock' of undefined", even though I have angular.js defined in config file. Anyone could help with this?
didn't even finish my degree
a friend suggested me for my first job
19:08
@user5554178 whatever you're doing whatever.mock = foo on is undefined.
OK so for-profit schools are scratched off the list, but what about a non-profit correspondence school, are they frowned upon too?
depends on the field. My gf (and her mom, actually) have or are getting degrees from NLU, but those are business degrees (HR and property management, respectively).
Computer degree.
@KendallFrey PSVR or a telescope
which should I get
i thought you couldn't see stars
but, telescope
19:22
like I have mentioned many times, I just need to drive ten minutes out of the city
:D
because console peasants
@KendallFrey but would you rather be a console peasant, happily drinking with your friends, or a PC gaming master Frankenstein doctor race, creating monsters?
Is that not obvious?
no it is
why not both?
19:26
not sure. Maybe cause you need a castle to create monsters?
this could all be an extended metaphor for case size?
Not sure if any of yall had played the first one, but epic game.
user1596138
As long as I can still drag zombies around behind my horses I'll buy it
Plus it's Rockstar and they always deliver.
what kind of game is it
user1596138
Oh and maybe if I didn't die by touching the water....
19:34
@KevinB open world western
Looks like I'll be playing BF1 for a year until this comes out.
@Waxi "and they always deliver" what?
Grand Theft Horse.
user1596138
@KevinB It's as open worldy as GTA, but wild west and zombies
@SomeGuy @Zirak reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/58hae4/… excellent reading materials. all over the map too
user1596138
19:35
Grand Theft Equine
user1596138
+ zombies..
@ssube Games....they deliver badass games!
I'm not sure about the zombies wasn't that just an add on?
@Waxi citation needed
user1596138
Ohhhhhhhh you're right
user1596138
19:36
I played the zombie version basically exclusively
they've delivered the same buggy game for the last few years
it's been a long time since Rockstar did anything interesting
I thought GTA 4 was good, even if it was the same game.
user1596138
GTA V was and still is pretty amazing.
user1596138
Objectively
4 was one of my favorites, although the console version is pretty broken
19:37
Their last game was GTAV and it was solid. The remastering they did for next-gen consoles was really nice. They've been working on RDR2 for some years now.
er, V, I think I meant.
i'm kinda looking forward to going through skyrim again with the remastered version
When I went back to skyrim I got instantly annoyed at all the repetitive voiceovers.
jesus dude, have a heart, none of those voice actors have knees
GTAV as of today has so much friggin' content and it's still only $60. One of the best value games you can buy.
@KevinB How do you remaster a next-gen game? lol
19:39
@Waxi skyrim was nowhere near next gen when it came out
still $60? shouldn't it have gone down?
they were not pushing boundaries on anything technical, at least
@Luggage That says something about the quality doesn't it? They're still selling a 3-year old game at full price. Who else can do that?
@ssube Ah I didn't know that. Everyone raved about Skyrim so I just assumed it was cutting edge.
Meh.
It was just a really well done game.
19:41
I liked Skyrim, but it's just like the previous game with new landscape and missions.
The last time Bethesda did something cutting edge was Daggerfall, although Fallout 3 might count (not graphically, just the world).
Their games, for better or worse, don't push any technical limitations.
I played it without having played the previous, so that likely had an impact
@rlemon on it, chief ;)
and a year or more after it was released
Battlefield 1 hands down is the prettiest game I've played on the Xbone.
19:42
@ssube morrowind was a good jump forward in that line of game
TES and COD are both very much about keeping the feel and brand going, but sit comfortably in a decent-off-the-shelf-graphics sort of spot.
eh, i look at it this way... I liked witcher 3 far more as far as graphics, but i enjoyed the story and gameplay of skyrim far more
though... i still haven't finished witcher3
got bored
Good game play can make sub-standard graphics acceptable.
I've never finished any Witcher game and have spent hundreds of hours playing the first 2.
19:44
But if you have bad game play and your graphics suck, you got nothing.
@Waxi which is what Bethesda relies on
@Waxi except for when they made Oblivion
I didn't even get into blood and wine
or whatever the other dlc was called
People talk very highly of Bethesda. I don't have any experience with their games, but admire any company that stands their ground and from the looks of it, they do what they want to do.
"stand their ground"?
Like, shoot people?
stand their ground? lolwat
they fired most of their staff because everybody knew Oblivion was awful
19:46
witcher 3 i enjoyed for a while, until i realized i could just... spam my signs and never die on pretty much everything
the side-quests with the contracts got old too
they fired the dude who wrote ALL THEIR LORE prior to Obvs, iirc
Publishers can make a developer ruin their own game, happens all the time.
like, the really good, super weird, actually unique and interesting stuff
@Waxi Bethesda is their own publisher. :D
like Alphabet owns Google but Google spun Alphabet off
I thought Zenimax was thier publisher, now?
bah, I don't even care.
That's what I'm saying, they do whatever the fuck they want which is awesome.
19:48
@Luggage yep, and Zenimax was created by the CEO of Bethsoft and a few other senior mgmt people.
They spun off their own holding company, inversion-style.
I've seen EA crush dreams and eat souls of developers.
Is inversion doing anything interesting, or did they get rich enough to start sucking yet?
@rlemon I...wow.
Ohh, I'm thinking of Introversion.
@rlemon mother of all that is holy ∞/10 did not fucking expect
19:50
I know the name, but not their games
Prison Architect is the only really big one.
ooh, defcon
yea, that, too
I didn't know defcon and prison architect were the same people, that's nifty.
I tried to play Darwinia and Multiwinia, but couldn't figure them out.
@KendallFrey dude, this thread is full of stories
19:53
but... why?
@rlemon what in the all holy fuck did I just read
I have an object containing two Blobs and some pertinent information. How do I send blobs to the server and save them as image files when they get there, in C#?
Do I have to do anything special?
just... send them, and process them.
@SterlingArcher want more?
I don't know if I can handle much more brutality
@rlemon I... I clicked the link labeled "rotten anus". There are literally LITERALLY just no fucking words, not one
great movie
@KevinB I'm sending them but I have no clue how to process them.
@KendallFrey I'm well past the second doritos story
19:57
Unfortunately i can't help with C#
I've had enough reddit for one day
or, won't anyway
s/day/century/
@KevinB I'll try C# chatroom then, though it's hit or miss in there lol
Thanks!
google "how to write a file in c#"
19:59
@Luggage That hardly seems helpful

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