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8:00 PM
Well, you could do a poll, that would be decent. Heh
 
@SomeKittens s/browser/editor/
 
@JonathanAllard Generations of economists would tend to disagree.
 
but I get your point
 
I'm confused. Are we faulting javascript for being flexible and having a lot of code already written using it?
 
no
 
8:00 PM
@JonathanAllard Why don't we set up a poll for every GH repo? Say, stars or somesuch.
@AmericanSlime Yep.
 
I'm faulting it for not creating a culture that encourages fragmentation rather than working together
 
@SomeKittens well "we" are not .
 
Communism bad, capitalism good. Got it
 
I bet if you asked most people, their problem with javascript would be browser inconsistency (different apis, supporting/not supporting features)
 
Like I was talking about above, everything's a tradeoff. You can't fault a thing for having downsides, everything has downsides.
@r3wt Wrong decade
 
8:01 PM
@r3wt I would agree with what you say people would say
 
#1 browser for supporting ES6 was written by Microsoft. It's a new era
 
I'm using it right now, I'm on battery and Chrome gives me a whole hour less
 
My original question was actually if there was a project/initiative to reduce fragmentation and encourage a little more cohesiveness in the community
 
github
 
GitHub
 
8:02 PM
@SomeKittens location.origin is undefined on mobile safari.
 
mobile safari isn't a browser
it is a potato pretending to be a browser
 
I know I've found lots of projects where it was missing something or had a bug, so I wrote it and it got PR'd in
 
Sure, but one level of abstraction below that
 
most recently Observable.fromCallback in RxJS
@JonathanAllard Ok, so you need a Redis Job Queue. What's your priorities? Do you need the queue to return data? What parts of CAP are important to you? Would you rather an older project with a wonky API or a new one with less features but more maintained?
 
8:04 PM
@rlemon if it walks like a browser and quacks like a browser...
 
So my question then, is what language is not fragmented and keeps a tight core?
 
@KendallFrey it isn't safari mobile ;)
@AmericanSlime REBEL
only one user uses it, @KendallFrey
 
@AmericanSlime Most of 'em with a BDFL
 
I think you'll find a continuum of fragmentation with JS and PHP at the high end
 
8:05 PM
I think Go as well.
 
Correlated with popularity
 
wait, no, Go doesn't even have a central registry.
@JonathanAllard "best" is very relative. There's a lot of levers to lean on
One size does not fit all.
 
I don't think I used "best"
 
@SomeKittens lol
 
the further you go to reduce "fragmentation" the more you try to get everyone to fit into the same hat
 
8:07 PM
my head is big. your hat probably won't fit me
 
which is great if everyone has the same size head
 
I agree with that. Which is why I'm not casting a judgement of values on any end of the spectrum
 
Such wisdom in here.
 
but @rlemon has a huge head and so he is not served by the low-frag model.
@AmericanSlime Poe's law!
 
How did I forget about this
 
8:07 PM
I need a stir plate
!!afk vaping and shopping on Amazon for a stir plate
 
Uh...
I can't post my answer to a question...why?
 
Answer banned?
 
Nevermind, it got marked as a duplicate as I was working on it.
 
Answer banned? Is that a thing?
 
8:11 PM
It is lol
 
Huh. The push to the UNC path worked in sourcetree, but not from CMD
 
Can someone help this noob out? This was my original way of doing it where I got shunned for creating elements via strings. paste.ubuntu.com/13605206
My new method doesn't look any better, but I know it can be better: paste.ubuntu.com/13605224
 
god i have a head fuck of a problem
 
Why not use cell as a static var and name each used cell with meaning?
 
figuring out why a web socket message is being dropped after it is sent to my web application
 
8:19 PM
function makeCell(content, row) {
  var cell =  row.insertCell();
  cell.textContent = content;
  return cell; // cell is already inserted, this is just for future ref
}
@AmericanSlime I'm sure with this you can think of a way to clean it up
 
debugged everything and the message is sent from my application then it is never received at the web application end
 
guys? how do raves work?? if I drop acid, and the bass at the same time wouldn't they neutralize eachother??
 
sometimes, I really love France
 
@Trasiva Someone said I had to declare cell every time, and not just reassign value.
 
crl
and hate it too sometimes
 
8:21 PM
@rlemon haha i rave sober
 
@rlemon Ok let me absorb this, thanks.
 
I moved some weeks ago, so I have to change my postal address for many things
there's an online service for that... you just select whatever you want, old address, new address, some id stuff, and bam
 
@crl we love France, we just hate assholes.
 
took me 5 minutes
 
@AmericanSlime Well, use @rlemon's solution. It's much more elegant than what I was suggesting, and has more common sense.
 
8:22 PM
@rlemon ugh, I hate you.
 
@FlorianMargaine we have that in Canada as well. but it costs $75
 
crl
:)
 
:/
 
:F
 
@rlemon free free freedoooooooooooooooooooom!
the eagle is ours
 
8:23 PM
nah mang, murica
 
crl
is :F like :P but tongue broken?
 
@FlorianMargaine our mascot is a Beaver
 
I see :F as teeth
 
;) ;)
 
8:23 PM
:E
 
;
 
crl
^
 
@rlemon nibbling some wood heh?
 
!!tell FlorianMargaine urban beaver
 
crl
8:24 PM
:() big lips
 
actually @rlemon soundcloud.com/markusschulz/stereomarathon-part1 listen to that and drop some tell us how it goes haha
 
!!undo
 
:J
 
@rlemon TimeError: Could not reach 88mph
2
 
:M duck face
 
8:24 PM
@FlorianMargaine ^^
 
@rlemon "nibbling some wood" is a continuation of that joke.
 
well yea it works
 
i cant do level 24 of flexbox froggies
 
but I wanted to make sure you understood the slang
 
""""wood""""
 
8:25 PM
not sure if it translates to French
 
yeah I do
it doesn't
but I knew it anyway
 
k
 
thanks to HIMYM
 
nice
 
because Robin made a beaver song
 
8:25 PM
Scherbatsky*
or however
 
yeah... something like that
robin sparkles is what I remember
 
ROBIN SPARKLES
 
LETS ALL GOTO THE MALL!
 
sand castles in the sand...
 
crl
!!youtube castles in the sky
 
anyway, yeah.
 
so I didn't think the new server room had a rack.. bought one.. then found the rack
so now what do I do with a small-ish server rack
??
build a server?
 
sell it
 
crl
a racket? can serve for pingpong
 
@FlorianMargaine it was cheap
literally the smallest server rack I could find
 
8:28 PM
@rlemon sell it more than you bought it then
 
we only need it to hold two 24 port switches
 
oh
I kinda want the switches tho
 
crl
!!youtube tell me why
 
crl
8:30 PM
no.. !!youtube is broken
 
I have a very precise question about something very common - float numbers in JS.
I have a rich web app that uses inches to represent distances, but I need it to be precise down to 1/16 of an inch. Should I store data in inches with decimals, or as integer sixteenths? In another language I would have said integers without hesitation, but since even ints are actually floats in JS I'm not sure...
 
what?
integers are not floats
 
crl
easy fix: move to a country with metric system
 
@JacqueGoupil js definitely has integers. Look up how bitwise operators work, for example.
 
crl
he meant storing decimals as integers, like storing the cents for dollars $2.99 -> [2, 99] instead of a float
 
8:32 PM
!!youtube tell us why you're closed
 
No... I mean, write 9999999999999999 in the console and you'll get 10000000000000000 back. JS integers are also stored in a weird way.
 
crl
well, computers have limits, deal with it
 
@JacqueGoupil that's because it's 32-bits integers
 
@FlorianMargaine no
 
8:35 PM
@KendallFrey ?
 
You can pass an array as a function parameter right?
 
I WANNA GO SHOPPING WHY ARE YOU LOCKING YOUR DOORS TO THE PUBLIC WHY
 
@FlorianMargaine it's 53 bits
 
If it was a question of bits, it wouldn't be at a random 9999... multiple, but a power of 2, no? What's the last precise number, I forget.
 
@KendallFrey my bad
 
8:36 PM
!!> Number.MAX_SAFE_INTEGER
@JacqueGoupil ^
 
@KendallFrey 9007199254740991
 
got a new monitor
nice
 
@SterlingArcher Weren't they closed for some holiday?
 
i didnt find anything i wanted for sale online with any deals :(
 
@rlemon Thank you. I forgot about the power of functions. This is exactly what I'm gonna need. I'm gonna try to pass the entire thing into it and have it loop through, build the cells, and return the entire row complete.
 
8:37 PM
No idea, I'm not sure the context of that man lol
 
Oh well, in any case, would there be a reason for me to store my values in sixteenths and divide it when I want to display them - considering I don't want to switch to custom number objects.
 
@JacqueGoupil not really
JS numbers can store sixteenths exactly so you don't need to worry about rounding
 
crl
!!> eval('0.'+Array(17).join('0')+'1')
 
@crl 1e-17
 
crl
thanks clever girl
 
8:40 PM
I'll pray that there isn't too big of a rounding error when Europeans start using the app with centimeters though. Oh well, thanks for the confirmation.
 
@crl 1e-17
 
@JacqueGoupil Doubles are designed for measurable values like inches and cm
 
crl
mm are more appropriate for measuring Kendall's penis
 
@SterlingArcher Did you ever finish that book?
 
8:42 PM
Most of it, I'm hoping to finish tonight. It's expiring soon
 
crl
I'll need a new mouse soon
 
my new high def monitor for my laptop
<3
 
Yeah, I guess I just worry too much about JS being even more horrible than I imagined.
 
crl
what that no-brand laptop
 
8:43 PM
it is system76
not "no-brand"
 
crl
old-ass :p
 
no
year and a half old
i7
 
crl
I meant 76
 
crl
> The number 76 in the company name alludes to the year 1776, the year in which the American Revolution took place. The company founders hope likewise to ignite an open source revolution, ultimately leading to a situation in which consumers do not rely primarily on proprietary software.
ah that
 
8:46 PM
@SterlingArcher That's why I asked, haha.
 
@crl So in this situation, is Canonical or Google the French?
 
> Apple, meanwhile, isn’t backing down; and soon, the two sides will argue in court to hash things out. For what it’s worth, Apple argues that White “has not demonstrated how he suffered any loss.” It’s a harsh line for Apple to take, but a good reminder that backing up one’s data consistently is always advisable.
yet another reason why Apple is a fucking terrible company and I hate them
asshats
tl;dr apple employee wipes dudes phone deleting all contacts and photos
but that "isn't suffering any loses" according to apple... a company who boasts these devices as something we cannot live without
 
he probably deserved it
 
@Nick read the article. his phone was fucky so he took it into the store. they wiped it then asked "oops, did you back it up?"
 
@rlemon looks like a lenovo with the logo painted over
 
8:49 PM
yeah, he definitely deserved it
 
@Codeman ew, lenovo
 
lenovo is a good brand
 
@rlemon what's wrong with lenovo? decent build quality and very cheap for the specs
 
crl
@SomeKittens sorry I don't get what you mean
 
lenovo may have some good products (now) but they didn't in the past
 
8:50 PM
@rlemon I won't touch another crApple product if I can help it.
 
and every lenovo product I've owned was a POS
 
I'd take a lenovo over Dell, HP, etc. any day
 
like unusable crap
 
Who hasn't backed up their phone in 15 years?
 
I don't back up my phone
 
8:50 PM
Wait.. iphone hasn't been out for 15 years
 
most people just move from phone to phone
 
I don't have anything that I would be sad to lose
 
like. copy data from one to another using the tools the phone manufacturers provide
 
@crl US won the Revolutionary war due to three things: Dumb luck, George Washington, and the French.
 
@SomeKittens also a shitload of marijuana
 
8:51 PM
Yeah I just wipe my phone each time except my contacts. Photos? Why do I want pictures of college lol I was just high the entire time
 
Google keeps all of my contacts, so when I got a new phone, all I had to do was sign into the phone, and all of my contacts were there
 
And all my nudes are in the cloud so wallah
 
@SterlingArcher but he has a wife, and is old.
 
butt pics
 
8:51 PM
so he needs those pics to remember things
 
@Codeman that was the civil war
 
also, does no one care about my 7" monitor?!
 
oh im not saying he shouldnt get his money
 
it's so cute!!!
 
7" monitor wat
 
8:52 PM
How is a 7" monitor even useful
 
9 mins ago, by rlemon
user image
 
It's neat for something like a terminal; I'd like one actually
 
That's so cute
 
totes adorbs
 
8:52 PM
Finally a proper place for command line!
 
@Nick I'm using it for exactly that
 
:-|
 
@SterlingArcher It's spelled voilá
 
@Abhishrek is jelly because this is bigger than his current monitor
 
again, the French.
@rlemon noice
 
8:53 PM
@SomeKittens no I don't place the violin
 
crl
@SomeKittens ah that, ok, and Canonical/Google the companies you mean? why?
 
@rlemon vOv well considering I am on a nexus 5 true.
 
I'd use something like that for my server and my crippling monitor addiction.
@crl Some large entity outside the rebelling entity that people tend to forget.
 
@SterlingArcher Neither do you know how to spell viola
 
max resolution: 800 * 480
ohh hell yes
this thing is a power house
 
crl
8:54 PM
Oh didn't know, I lack basic history (especially US one) thanks
 
@KendallFrey pft, you and your stringed tuba can suck it
DO YOU EVEN ORCHESTRATE
 
@FlorianMargaine saw that a couple days ago
it looks crazy neat
 
@SterlingArcher Actually I can't suck it.
 
but I would disable it within minutes
 
8:55 PM
@KendallFrey lockjaw?
 
definitely
 
@rlemon still no idea how it's useful
 
@FlorianMargaine I would go nuts lol
 
@SterlingArcher I have a spine
 
@KendallFrey I often have to monitor things on the command line
 
8:56 PM
Like that's hardly a reason
 
I don't like utilizing a 24" for that
 
y not
 
^ i reserve a little corner of my monitor for a command window
 
yea I don't like that
 
Would love a dedicated screen like that
 
8:56 PM
I would prefer a small external monitor
 
@crl Yorktown (the deciding battle) was won because French Admiral de Grace kept British ships from shelling American lines.
 
I would prefer a big external monitor
 
thus the term "coup de Grace"
 
crl
hehe nice TIL
 
I don't think that's true
 
crl
long description is long
 
just pretend it isn't meant for your car
 
> Some English speakers, aware that some final consonants are dropped in French, overcompensate by dropping the final /s/ sound in grâce, making this sound like French coup de gras (“strike of grease”). This mispronunciation is quickly becoming ubiquitous and is being popularized by the media (e.g., it occurs twice in Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill Volume 2).
lol
 
8:58 PM
@FlorianMargaine TIL
you should pronounce that next Hangouts
Still, no French, no USA.
 
strike of grease?
 
@rlemon are you minifying HTML?
 
yes
 
crl
strike of fat :p (gras in fr)
 
Is that coffee cup in the back empty >=(
 

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