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18:00
@KendallFrey I didn't miss it, that is the reason I'm out. used them all up, also shut up
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@CodedContainer Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
sent text. no fucks given. will deliver results
@Cereal The JS that peforms the Ajax request, you mean?
yet you continue using them throughout the rest of the sentence
And tried using data-toggles.
18:00
@ŠimeVidas yes, and the js that decodes it
the fuck is .tab ??
@rlemon tab.js
@Cereal I tried using
$('#myTabs a').click(function (e) {
e.preventDefault()
$(this).tab('show')
})
without any luck.
mission failed gentlemen.
@Cereal decode? If the browser doesn't show the response at all (due to no-CORS), there is no decoding. That would come later.
@CodedContainer The code you pasted doesn't have an element ID'd as "myTabs"
18:02
> Lmao
@ŠimeVidas The user (the browser) has your data and your decryption key. You have no security.
That's all I got back D:
@Cereal I added the id to my ul element. No go.
ABORT THE MISSION
18:02
@SterlingArcher that's not always bad
sorry man
In my experience it is lol
do u need a backup
best way to get with somebody is to make them laugh
@ŠimeVidas What do you mean later? Then the user can see it then
18:02
Yeah, tell your mom the plans are back on
just, not at you
If it's happening in the browser, the user can see it happening
@ssube only if it happens before the pants are off
@Cereal The user is the browser.
18:03
@SterlingArcher May as well just ask her out and get it over with
gogo
@ssube Yes, tell him that
@Mosho Solved it?
@ssube lol either way im not worried. I have like no chance with this chick anyways
@SterlingArcher this is when you call it out.
@rlemon That is exactly it. lol
@SterlingArcher then stop caring and you'll totally get it
18:03
> "Mission status: failed"
call what out?
> "ABORT MISSION!"
send those
Mission definitly failed.
@Cereal So, when an app performs a cross-origin Ajax request and the data doesn't have CORS set, then the browser prevents the response from leaking, either to the app or the user, from what I can tell. Is this not correct?
> "GET TO THE CHOPPA!"
18:04
Missionary: Failed
How about doggy?
@SterlingArcher She's not worth it
but shes so hot :(
!!youtube hot problems
18:05
@SterlingArcher tell her you just got a fucking hinge match. like just this second you got a hinge match
Then take a more active step, like "I'm free tonight if you're up for it" or something like it.
a hinge match?
da fuq
> wanna come over and wash my hair?
But if that's her level of conversation, just date @ssube with a toupee.
@ŠimeVidas That is not correct.
18:05
@SterlingArcher hinge is like tinder
but for hot people
canadian tinder? that should be called pinecones
@ssube Well explain. How can the app or user see the response?
@rlemon They filter the non-hot people out?
@ssube I think they call it Timber up there
Or Lumber
18:06
@ŠimeVidas Why are you stuck on cors? All that affects is whether the browser can get the data at all
@SterlingArcher lol nice
@ŠimeVidas The user is the app is the browser is the user. It's all the same.
@SterlingArcher my god that is genius
The browser can enforce security between two scripts it chooses to run but cannot restrict the user.
> want a bearded moose riding Canadian? come to Timber.io
18:07
modest bow
@Cereal The browser can get the data, even if CORS. The point it that the browser prevents the app from accessing the data if not CORS.
The browser wraps the app, the user wraps the browser.
The user can get anything the browser has, regardless of where it came from.
omg
he's jsut going to keep asking until he hear the answer he wants.
@ssube Are you trolling me? I've asked you: how can the app or user see the data in that case?
18:07
@SterlingArcher send her this: youtube.com/watch?v=ocGiulPm3IU
no jokes.
@ŠimeVidas Are you getting the data through javascript or through the browser's http request?
@ŠimeVidas On a locked-down windows machine without admin, the browser still runs under your user, so you can just read the memory directly. There is no security.
lol she's stilla friend im not trying to completely scare her
Windows has an API for that.
@SterlingArcher Did you see my suggestion above?
18:08
If I literally sent her everything yall told me too I'd have a restraining order by now xD
@SterlingArcher don't stop at modest. drop to your knees, chin on the ground
@Zirak I did, and that's the most sensible comeback
I still think 'wanna celebrate?' was your best bet
no, no, face away from me
@ssube How can I read the memory? By user I mean a browser user, specifically.
18:08
1) Amusing

2) Still asking her out
So I said "No but seriously, lets grab drinks soon"
Good enough
@ŠimeVidas Windows has an officially-supported API for reading memory from any process you have access to (especially, ones you're running).
I can vouch for that API, used it extensively last year for mildly unethical game related activities
18:09
@KendallFrey all I can think of is Jamie lee curtis and arnold. "no, no, dance .. sexy"
I have yet to have an interesting match on Tinder, speaking of
Great program btw, if it's used to its full potential it's incredible, there's more than just skid stuff.
They're either all fembots, or (sorry) horrifying to look at
@ssube Ok, I am aware that a user can use various tools to read the network response. My question is specifically within the browser. So, without leaving the browser, can a user view the data...
I've been going out wqith the same girl since highschool /o/
18:10
@SterlingArcher you need to get on hinge
I missed out on all this forest fire shit
@SterlingArcher You can date fembots!?
morning
I miss anything fun?
And on the off chance one I find appealing matches, they have the personality of @rlemon 's fish pond before construction
@ŠimeVidas Yes. The network debug tab will show everything they need.
18:11
@SomeKittens potential restraining order, nothing special
better than a kinetic one
@SomeKittens Wanna send messages to @SterlingArcher's beloved?
@ssube You mean the Network panel in the browser's developer tool? That just gives me an empty response, i.e. the browser doesn't show the data.
(plot twist: it's Skittles all along)
@ŠimeVidas If you get data, it will.
CORS or not
18:12
My beloved is a red headed bartender with a broken phone so I have to go get drunk to put moves on her
Oh man
Work is so fun again
What sort of shit situation is that xD
@SterlingArcher um, we should talk
It'd been a while
@ŠimeVidas The thing you want to do is not technically possible, no matter what you try.
18:12
if you have to give her money to talk to her, it's not "beloved"
It's 'be loved'
@SomeKittens unrelated lol
She's the table bartender, I go to the bar and drink because my boy Jeremy is the coolest bartender ever
So she's not getting my money. I just get drunk because I like drinking and it's a perk that she's there XD
@SterlingArcher when is the party?
@ssube I think it should be possible. Web apps have become offline. The dependency to the server should be eliminated as much as possible.
I realize that this is javascript but since the css room is empty I figured I would ask in here: I can make text color and the background of a div transition in color. How do I do the same to a shadow?
18:14
@FlorianMargaine I like to party
@ŠimeVidas What do you mean 'you think it should be'? If you put data on a computer, it can be accessed
@SterlingArcher I mean the one where you invite her and her coworkers
@ŠimeVidas There's a theoretical implementation for transforming encrypted data without decrypting it, but if the user can decrypt part, they can decrypt it all.
i want to make a cool ambiance background to a div
18:14
@Skullomania not too sure if that's possible. Logically speaking, shadows can't have color
If it's in the hardware in any shape or form, it can be accessed
There is no way for you to prevent that.
But this is the internet...
Lemme google
@SterlingArcher oh, they can
vidja games do it all the time
@Skullomania CSS transition and box-shadow
18:15
yes...look at the fiddle I can change that #000; to anything I want
negative lights and shadows with their own color are common techniques to do weird effects
Hey, it doesn't color hex codes anymore
#fff123
JK, just doesn't color his
@ssube It should be possible. If operating systems like Windows can be stored on the user's machine without them being open source, then it should be possible to store a data base as well, without it being "open source", i.e. accessible.
@ŠimeVidas It is not possible.
@FlorianMargaine im not sure if your asking me a question or telling me something
18:17
@FlorianMargaine dunnoooooo I wanna throw a party sometime but bartenders always work weekends so it's tough :(
@ŠimeVidas I don't think you understand how things work
@ŠimeVidas Windows is stored without encryption. Those are not the same problem at all.
You can decompile Windows quite easily, there's no way to prevent that
@Zirak Obviously. That's why I'm asking questions here.
@Zirak If you can decompile it, why doesn't Windows just ship open source? What's the difference.
Have you ever decompiled something?
18:18
@ŠimeVidas Obfuscation.
It's slightly harder to read.
Not that I remember.
is what I am asking not possible from the point of view that I am attacking from?
Having the opcodes and having the source are two very different things.
Also, MS ships the source for a significant part of Windows
It's called the Windows Driver Development Kit
@ssube slightly is a bit of an understatement
18:19
What you're asking, from what I understand, is more akin to preventing one user from reading another user's password on Windows or Linux or whatever
@Cereal #f00 works #f00; does not because trailing ;
@Zirak One user from reading their own password.
@rlemon Oh
He has an encrypted file and wants to allow the user to read part of it at a time.
without knowing the encryption key (afaik)
18:20
So encrypt different parts with different keys?
which the user has
blink blink
@Cereal unless it is forcefully written in a way that reverse engineering is difficult, then not really. mostly you can access stuff around easily
@Zirak I'm interested in a web app being able to store a data base locally without the user being able to access it fully.
18:20
@ŠimeVidas All of the database?
My god, girls are masters of tricking the camera on tinder
@ŠimeVidas Without dedicated hardware for that, you can't do it.
Maybe the decryption mechanism could be on an external USB key?
Ha! I was just thinking that myself.
You would need a chip that kept the database encrypted and in independent memory.
That's just stupid on your behalf, the syncing will be horrendous
18:21
@SterlingArcher Camera up, chin out
Or point it at your tits
Whatever
@SterlingArcher "chin"
You can do something like keep the main data block plain, but have parts of it encrypted with some form of asymmetric crypto
18:21
But how do you distribute keys?
Locally based on the client? How can someone decrypt their share?
lmao
More along the lines of "I'm heavy, but if I hide my body and aim the camera this way, you can't tell"
I just think that these capabilities would be useful for web apps.
How would I use moment on a rendered html page? Add custom attributes to element with timestamps in it and loop through it? This sounds like a terrible way with lagging in times showing up. What's the proper way to do it?
@ŠimeVidas Why do you even want to keep the entire db on the user?
It's wasteful
@SterlingArcher check gtalk
18:23
"Want to read this one page? Here's a dump of my entire site"
@Zirak offline webapp
@Zirak It could be a list of contacts, doesn't necessarily have to be very big.
checked gchat, omg
@ssube Which should work for every user?
Not worth the trouble
I know
18:24
@ŠimeVidas It's not worth the trouble. I could wane a bit in your favour if you only wanted to dumb the parts relevant to the user, but everything?
s/dumb/dump/
^ agreed. Good use cases for offline webapps, but no need to drop the whole DB on the user.
wiki.debian.org/Python/Packaging HORRIBLE! SO MUCH FREAKING HORRIBLE!
@SomeKittens But how can the user perform meaningful searches while offline, without the entire database?
@ŠimeVidas From their local cache.
Say the DB is 1MB
@SterlingArcher d'aw, look at their little muscles
I will never get used to import in js
makes me feel so javay
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@rlemon Pronounced Yahweh
hehe
This article is about the national god of the Iron Age kingdoms of Israel and Judah. For other uses, see Yahweh (disambiguation). See also: Tetragrammaton. Yahweh (/ˈjɑːhweɪ/, or often /ˈjɑːweɪ/ in English; Hebrew: יהוה‎) is the national god of the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah. His origins are mysterious, although they reach back to the early Iron Age and even the Late Bronze: his name may have begun as an epithet of El, head of the Bronze Age Canaanite pantheon, but the earliest plausible mentions are in Egyptian texts that place him among the nomads of the southern Transjordan. In the...
18:32
(1) Why would he have to?
(2) Use your brain meat, I'm sure you can figure out that the search space isn't everything available theoretically to the program
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@rlemon Funny how it's synonymous with "god" for christians even tho it has other origins...
The Mithraic Mysteries were a mystery religion practiced in the Roman Empire from about the 1st to 4th centuries AD. The name of the Persian god Mithra (proto-Indo-Iranian Mitra), adapted into Greek as Mithras, was linked to a new and distinctive imagery. Writers of the Roman Empire period referred to this mystery religion by phrases which can be anglicized as Mysteries of Mithras or Mysteries of the Persians; modern historians refer to it as Mithraism, or sometimes Roman Mithraism. The mysteries were popular in the Roman military. Worshippers of Mithras had a complex system of seven grades of...
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Seems totally unrelated.... Going to take me a bit to find the link? Worth it?
@LanaKane Yahweh is another name for the Jewish god
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18:38
@Zirak Yeah I know. Same guy
many english bibles translate it as just LORD.
> bobles
:)
baubles
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Babel
bauble, bauble, toils, and troubles..
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18:39
> I opened up that there babel an readed it
@rlemon import is starting to annoy me
isn't yahweh what we used before google?
@LanaKane god !== God
they got it backwards
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@rlemon God uses /i
18:39
import thing from location doesn't help
@LanaKane Christianity has a god named God
it would be like naming your cat Cat
from location import thing means that the editor can autocomplete whatever you're importing.
just confusing is all
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I know right. That always bugged me lol
becuse he always had a name, just some sects don't use it
18:40
@LanaKane it does make me laugh out loud when you're confused
@rlemon It would actually be like seeing a creature called "Cat", then naming its species "cat"
Jehovah = Yahweh, too.
@rlemon No, Christianity's God is called Yahweh/Jehovah/etc
@Zirak AKA instantiation
@Zirak indicating the christian god is the first god?
@MadaraUchiha that is a funny way of spelling "made up"
but okay :P
18:41
var god = new God();
var cat = new Cat();  // made in His mewling image
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@MadaraUchiha No Yahweh was just a stolen label
Fuck you, I win
@rlemon Indicating it's the important one in the English language
Same for Hebrew
@Zirak not English language, archaic principals.
18:42
@MadaraUchiha Not really. The Jewish god is, but the Christian god is mostly just called God.
var god = God.instance; // singleton (not thread safe)
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@SomeKittens Umm, did I say you needed to "lol"? Nah, I said it implying that I chuckled.
@ssube They're the same deity
@rlemon I don't follow
@Zirak not entirely
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18:42
@ssube They are exactly the same.
@Zirak a civilized person who is not an anti-theist will concede to this, probably. but the 'followers' will see your god as a false god and not as the same god under a different presentation
@ssube Kinda is...
We had a thing, it was named "God". To refer to the abstract concept behind it, almighty and powerful entity etc etc, we called it "god".
@ssube They're the one and the same.
/me is with the Jewish guy on what Jews think of Jewish things.
They're not, if only on the basis that Christians believe in a tripartite God and Judaism doesn't.
18:43
<-- jewish, non religious
They're very similar but have some differences, shit Christianity added on.
@ssube Judaism totally believes in the messiah. They just think He hasn't come yet.
Jesus never cums smh
@SomeKittens Messiah != tripartite
18:44
@ssube Jehovah's Witnesses are classified as Christian, right? I think Jehovah is still used rarely in Christianity.
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@ssube No they just believe we haven't seen Jesus yet
According to the New Testament, Jesus was a Jew who was sent by the Jewish God to liberate the new people etc and so forth.
@ssube and Christians will argue they are not the same god.
@Zirak Jesus isn't a god tho. he is a prophet
Yeah, for us, Jesus is an asshole traitor who used cheats to perform miracles
@ssube That's a different story; Catholics believe in the holy trinity, but Protestants don't
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18:44
Jesus is the same as God is the same as the Holy Spirit, guys.
@rlemon Jesus was very clear that he was divine - that's what got him crucified.
@Zirak Protestants do, they still have the spirit part and it's featured pretty heavily.
@Zirak Many Protestants do
I don't remember the New Testament's stand on this, it could have been latched later on
@Zirak That's an untrue blanket statement
18:45
@Zirak but Catholicism is a sect of Christianity
SO MANY PINGS
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@Zirak What??? Yeah they do lol
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Q: What are the different names of God in the Bible and what do they mean?

Ecommerce ConsultantI see that our current-day Bibles only refer to God as LORD. Can you explain to me what the different names of God are and what they mean?

I read the bible at some point in my life, but I don't remember any of it
@LanaKane Yes, and no. That's the subtly of the three-being system.
18:45
@Zirak ping
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Baptists do.
Ignore Jesus. Glory to the Sage of Six Paths!
It's one of the things they spend a lot of time on in confirmation classes.
Hail Hydra
2
@MadaraUchiha Animoo saved my life!
18:45
@Cereal \o/
> Eat pussy, chug whiskey, hail Satan.
Anyway @ssube, my point was that even if the rituals surrounding the belief are different, the deity is the same deity.
Hail is made of ice
That part is pretty set in stone.
18:46
I'm having issues with Decorators (transpiling with babel) -- While trying to apply it to a class method, it's only applying to the class. I'm tempted to make a Q on main
@Zirak that's what you get for having an informed opinion about religion.
@KendallFrey Heil Elsa!
@Nick CAN'T YOU SEE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPORTANT RELIGION STUFF HERE? GAWD!
!!img elsa
@Cereal That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
18:46
brb making a pull request
@Nick Example?
(Gotta get that free tshirt)
@MadaraUchiha sure, one sec
As regards to the name, God has a lot of names in the Old Testament. I don't know if they've been translated to English or how.
ITT a bunch of anti-theists/non-religious discussing religion idiosyncrasies.
18:47
Sky Wizard is my favorite
@Zirak transliterated, mostly
Why not Zoidberg?
@MadaraUchiha
const deco = () => {
    return method => {
        // method === Foo
    }
}

class Foo {
    @deco
    static method () {

    }
}
@rlemon Dunning-Kruger reigns supreme
There's אלוהים which is literally God, there's אדוני which is literally My Lord, there's יהוה which is pronounced as Yahweh/Jehovah, and modern Jews say אלוקים (a bit different from the first) to distance themselves from the name. I don't know this enough, but some more religious people have the seven names of god and whatnot.
@rlemon I've studied Judaism for the majority of my life
18:48
In other news, I finally got SocketCluster to reboot my workers whenever a file changes
@Zirak אלוקים is akin to Gosh
@Zirak and I've studied Christianity for most of mine.
s/Judaism/Christianity/ and that's me.
!!s/Dunning-Kruger/Nick Dugger/
not believing it makes things a lot different tho.
18:49
@Luggage @rlemon Nick Dugger reigns supreme (source)
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@Zirak I almost objected too. But he said it as though we are non-practicing not as if we are ignorant
Yahweh is the literal pronunciation. When read in hebrew, I was taught it read "Adonaih" (Ah-doe-n-aye)
@rlemon Then you know the technical aspects of it. We don't have to believe ub irder ti ybderstabd,
@LanaKane exactly.
@SterlingArcher Yeah, that's pretty much it.
18:49
most people who don't follow it don't care about the idiosyncrasies
Daenerys?
Khaleesi?!
Kelso?
You can sit there and yammer on about all the terrible things in JS but that won't stop people from writing it.
@SomeKittens It'll stop someone from writing it
18:50
@SterlingArcher That's אדוני, which is My Lord. Yahweh is יהוה, which is basically a meshed together version of "was", "is", and "will be"
@Cereal I don't see how that contradicts my point.
Ah, dont I feel silly
Signifying his eternalness, shit like that
18:51
(get it?)
@MadaraUchiha @Zirak @SterlingArcher @BenjaminGruenbaum
^^^^^^
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I was raised in the bible belt lol. You either hate it with a burning rebellious passion, follow along without asking very many questions or take an interest and amass knowledge you have no use for because logic.
@Nick I'm not sure, Q on main sounds good
@Zirak "Ah, dont I" GETIT?!?!
Pun so subtle
@SterlingArcher You are stupid
18:52
i know :(
@LanaKane mother is very religious, father is atheist. my childhood was interesting. I attended church for a long time tho to appease my mother.
Go back to being rejected by a hot redhead
he wasn't rejected
Dammit shes so hot too..
@rlemon it's a slow burn
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18:52
@rlemon I did fucking puppet shows with church. And show choir. When I was 16. That is the extent my parents forced it on me lol
She's such a challenge because her phone sucks
Or she lied and her phone works fine and rejected me nicely
Either or
@SterlingArcher So she already has something for cunnilingus
No fucks given :D
send her a dick pic
see if she responds
@rlemon lol that's awesome
dickpics take a while to prep. You have to let them know that you're thinking about them
@SterlingArcher no
@MadaraUchiha I know that wasn't a response to my image but I'm considering it as such in order to continue inflating my ego
you just send them randomly
18:54
@SomeKittens I need a 3m x 3m poster of that to hang at work.
that's the whole point
@ssube no
prep
at least groom yourself.
@LanaKane When I told my mom I didn't believe in god, she was so upset
She still tries
No way, that says "I wantonly send my dick around". The other way says "I took my time, and this is most definitely meant for you".
She bought me a book on the bible just the other day
18:55
@rlemon that shouldn't be a special thing for pre-pic-sending
@MadaraUchiha pretty well all of his songs make light of the fact he's a skinny white jewish rapper.
You know.. it's not everyday that you transition from Jesus to dickpics so quickly
> Debian: I am the most easy to use and install linux distro!
> User: Oh nice!
> Dev: I have this app I made that I wanna package for you.
> Debian: Get fucked. If you still have the motivation left to publish, get fucked a bit more.
@SterlingArcher sharpie a message to her on your D but leave it with ellipsis and the note "if you wanna read the rest you know what to do"
and I officially put too much thought into that.
/back to work
Instructions unclear, ran out of dick
18:57
lil dicky reminds me of @Zirak
Favorite subtlepattern, go!
!!define subtlepattern
@SterlingArcher My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
not from the website
I made that
as seen on rlemon.ca

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