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14:00
username is nickdugger
pw is the one from the text yesterday
Alright, awesome
I am going to now create a user for myself
@AwalGarg new task
@NickDugger Let me know if that works :-)
It just has the general theme atm
I'm logged in. I'll play with plugins when I get home (I've gotta find my archive of them)
14:02
;-)
NSFW The buffalo buffalo lol and oh dear NSFW
is there some kind of thing like mongoose but for meteor?
Yes, Mongoose.
Although you don't need it. You just define collections and stuff - look at their tutorials.
doesn't that have problems? A few stack overflow questions stated that it does
Some StackOverflow questions also ask how to add jquery variables together
14:10
I'm not a meteor fan. When asking advice in a new FW - ask fans :)
that is if you need advice on angular/promises/education/how-to-write-good-code/how-to-be-sane ask him
so I have client software running on local hardware to the client. it auto updates (which I'm quite proud of.) and I have a very minor change to make.. I could make a small change on the central server as a bandaid fix and then patch both when I have more substantial client updates. what would you guys do?
How has everybody been? I really have not been in here in a while.
bunch updates and hotfix, or send all clients very minor updates on a regular basis
@rlemon I hate bandaids... but sometimes you really cannot avoid them
Is it a fix that you can do in a short amount of time without a bandaid @rlemon?
14:16
I just don't like the idea of all of the client downloading the entire source to update for like 5 bytes changed :P
the problem is the client has to download a compiled image. it isn't small.
it isn't HUGE, but ofc if I can avoid sending those on regular I do
@rlemon hmmmm that is annoying.
yea, but I also don't like the idea of having to revist a fix later in time.
But sometimes that type of thing is unavoidable if you are trying fix something that is inherntly broken
I suppose I know what I Have to do. I'm just bitching aloud
making a quick fix on the server side I am sure you will forgot about it
people always forget about bandaids... until they have to apply another one on top of it @rlemon
14:19
Ideally we'd all be using some sort of git system where only changes to resources are sent
But I suppose that would be a nightmare to deal with
@Neil hehe yea. you would have to deal with keys etc... annoying as hell. or use something like bower etc, but bower doesnt really let you set up private things yet (idk if they ever will)
@rlemon You could install git 2.3 and use push to deploy for updates
@BasementKeyboardHero Then you need to set up a private repo and handle access keys which is annoying as hell :-(
It's something
14:25
@BasementKeyboardHero We use git/github private repos for a staging and production servers (and local builds) but that is all internal to us. Handling outside repo's keys etc gets to be a very big hassle (in my opinion)
Depends on the scale of your business I guess
I guess
@Neal Would be very efficient way of sending resources online though
@Neil what? bower?
Especially if you're update system is a bit makeshift
14:29
mine totally is :D
@rlemon So maybe setup a git repo (possibly secret) with access keys, then your users can pull updates when needed
and you will have a much smaller overhead.
@Neal no, git
@Neal wouldn't work that way
@Neil Yea I am fine with git. but if your repo is private, you have to garner access to every user who needs access to it,
@rlemon why is that?
because reasons I don't feel like getting into. but suffice to say it is an all or nothing deal
they can't cherry pick updates
14:32
then git is perfect since everyone is getting the same update
yea but why do I need git when I already have a system in place that works? (for the updates)
$ git config receive.denyCurrentBranch updateInstead on all the client's servers, and when you push they pull automatically
I love using old sayings with new technology.. "My git server kicked the bucket" or "How do you like them SSH keys?"
@BasementKeyboardHero Yea, I do not like that, the users should selectively pull
I do not like force pushing...
17 mins ago, by rlemon
I just don't like the idea of all of the client downloading the entire source to update for like 5 bytes changed :P
Who said anything about force pushing
14:33
damn you http-proxy! socket hang up
@BasementKeyboardHero "when you push they pull automatically"
@rlemon Don't like change? :-)
That's not forcepushing
In his case all the users receive the same update
@Neal since when is change for the sake of change preferable
Force pushing is for when you screw up your commits and start rebasing
@rlemon Well it is change so you do not have as much headache sending out updates so that you do not have to patch up bandaids on your end.
14:35
Has anyone ever made a PhoneGap app for Windows Phone?
I could use some help with scrolling...
Probably a few people in history
@Neal either I don't understand how it is a upgrade from what I have, or you don't understand the issue
@rlemon That is possible. What is your current process?
atm all I need to do to push an update is update the version number in the db and put the image in a specified location
the client device when it boots up calls home and checks the version. if it isn't current it downloads the current image via scp and installs it, then reboots.
@rlemon Are you talking about that theme extension?
14:36
If anyone wants to help out for a bit with PhoneGap, groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/phonegap/b8MDxPiu9gU
god no
this is for work
@rlemon Care to repeat?
anyhow, I've moved onto bigger issues.
3 mins ago, by rlemon
damn you http-proxy! socket hang up
I know that they are technically the same thing according to the specification, but does using a literal like var a = 0.0; imply to any JS engine that the type is meant to be a float (and vice versa for integers)?
they are all the same
there is only one type
14:41
@Qantas94Heavy Good question. I'm not really sure. Lemme check.
@SterlingArcher BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
> 2015/02/24 05:21 USORDS, International shipment has arrived in a foreign country
I can't wait for my ugly lugz to arrive
@NickDugger lugz?
blame @rlemon
@rlemon not internally.
14:43
@SecondRikudo
@SecondRikudo if you have to stand all day
best shoe for it
the name fits.
I got the fancy grey looking ones. Didn;t want to look like a total tool
14:43
@Qantas94Heavy at least in some cases it does.
haha
@BenjaminGruenbaum hmm, interesting, I'll look into it
should just go with crocs and be done with it!
lol some guy I work with wears crocs every friggin day
they make me cringe
@Qantas94Heavy what are you optimizing for?
not really optimizing for anything, just curious
14:45
@Loktar accept the midlife crisis and it will accept you
@Loktar "What's wrong with Crocs?" "They are the universal symbol of a man who has given up hope!"
I've never seen a pair of crocs in real life. I'm fortunate
@KendallFrey oh no man I was saying Nick should
@NickDugger what
14:45
not me holy hell
@BenjaminGruenbaum hahaha makes me want to watch that movie
yeah you
do it, post a pic
@KendallFrey I dont even know where to buy them
Old Country Buffet?
they used to be everywhere
14:46
yeah my kids had some like 5 years ago
I've tried them on. I don't find them as insanely comfortable as everyone claims
did you disown them?
I tried but they kept coming home
I was too lazy to move
@NickDugger get some good feedback for the gamejam?
@Loktar mostly, yeah. The language restriction question is at a tie, though
it appears I cant look at results unless I resubmit, kind of lame on Googles part
14:48
I can link them
one sec
:sigh: trying to get http-proxy working from behind an express route. routers have no .on(event) crap
I'm lost
yeah just curious what most people thought, they were some good questions
If the language thing is a tie and a big deal Ill change my answer from JS to whatever lol
I was one of the ones who said strictly js
oh you added the judged thing.. I should retake it..
Most of the questions aren't split enough to make a call either way. I'll have to think about it
14:49
oh weird, my answers arent on there
must have got lost when you added the judge/prize thing
wait nm Im dumb. I see it
Who's the turd that does 8 spaces
ew
who put rlemon's d
I put rlemon's dick
> "Ways to make SomeKittens lots of money"
Wonder who posted that
lol,
> 10 years since sing strim. i walk through the empty streets trying to think of something else but my path always leads to the stream. i stare at the screen for hours and try to summon the lord. i watch other asian girls streaming but it is no good. i flame dendi in his channel and try to resist the nazi mods but it is all meaningless. the end is near.i then usually watch some old sing vods and cry myself to sleep.
nice ref
I didn't get the reference
15:03
can someone with better google-fu maybe try to help? I am using express4 and finally using routers like I should :P app.use('/', routerObject) and in the router file I setup the http-proxy. the socket is hanging up on refresh/unload and I need to handle upgrade events and error events, but router has no .on method. I have been googling all morning (past 45 minutes or so) .
@rlemon What are you trying to do again?
... didn't I just explain it?
proxy websockets from behind a router in express <- simplified
So, I just realized this morning that the shoe inserts that I got --until I get my boots-- were in backwards, meaning on the wrong feet... I was wondering why the outsides of my feet were hurting...
lol
should console.log work in meteor? I'm failing at debugging
15:06
@BenjaminGruenbaum OWNED
@corvid Isn't there a proper debugger?
With breakpoints and the such?
@SecondRikudo probably, but sometimes for convenience console.log is quicker
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dimfischJust getting started with Meteor, on Windows. Following the initial instructions, the automatically generated "Hello World" app is running on localhost. The text and button are there, but clicking it doesn't output anything to the console. However, replacing console.log() with alert() does show t...

@SecondRikudo ohh okay, that confirms the suspicion at least... got a small problem.
How to dynamically add or remove a div element inside other div element
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posted on February 24, 2015

Mobilism, 27th of March in Amsterdam, is going to be a stellar conference. All the content is in, and we're excited. What about you? Judge for yourself. Sascha Wolter is going to talk about the Internet of Things, and why it's not a business hype but good for creativity. If you ask him nicely he will actually *show* you. Seb Lee-Delisle is also going to show stuff. He's known for his wild

15:15
@kishorJoshi You seem to be very new to javascript. I suggest heading over to codecademy.com
@kishorJoshi Are you using jquery or any other frameworks?
I am using JQuery
@Nick
RTFM
Don't come back until you've read the documentation
15:18
you can probably use a CSS selector, or children in jquery
document.body.innerHTML.match(/<([a-z]+)([^<]+)*(?:>(.*)<\/\1>|\s+\/>)/ig) crashed my tab
Does anyone know what all of the onebox types are offhand? blog, image, ...?
oh wow... nevermind I am an idiot. Forgot to put submit in the form
feeds (blog) images amazon github
umm.. quotes
15:25
youtube
you can just check for .onebox it should be common in all cases
twitter, wikipedia
can any one edit me.?jsfiddle.net/vngx/jbu2udk6
to dynamically add or remove HTML div?
Did you read the documentation?
yes
@mere
15:28
Are you sure?
dith
110%
tweet,twitter user,youtube, meta status, user profile, wikipedia, amazon, blog, apparently manpage, job postings, trello, onebox exceptions, xkcd, and "anime" for some reason
@kishorJoshi your fiddle isn't using JQ
there is your fiddle at least set to use JQ
top left you can change what library is being used
15:29
@kishorJoshi Event delegation.
why do some classes be named myFoo and saved as my-foo.js
^ delegation
@loktar,@Ben Fortune:change to JQuery
@rlemon do feeds come in as .ob-feed or .ob-blog?
check now
15:30
@Shmiddty they both are labeled as .onebox
what are you trying to achieve?
The feed above is ob-blog
@rlemon Yeah, but they've got specific things that are different
@Shmiddty ohh you're trying to fuck with the oneboxes?
15:31
Just catching edge cases for my theme
@kishorJoshi on that link go to the last example
at the bottom of the page
should point you in the right direction
@phenomnomnominal It's not even the right day! -_-
@Shmiddty so I didn't realize F8 was only 2 days :/
thats a lot of money to spend on 2 days lol so I'm going to pass this time
15:34
is that a problem?
oh ok
fair enough
also looked at the talks didn't see any react stuff
You'll still have to buy me a beer
which I figured they wouldnt talk about.. but I had some hope lol
@Shmiddty haha Ill send you one!
because I said so
but yeah man flights are so $$
15:34
Oh, you're not in SF?
bah
sorry. haha
@Loktar I want, on Click of Add Button a New Group will be add of same data(name of org,role..) and at the botton there is a button for remove or delete that will remove that data if I want to remove it.
(I hope you are gone on that visual)
no dude I'm in Nebraska
I can't keep it all straight
15:34
I need a facebook account to register for the event
if I was in SF id go for sure
@kishorJoshi dude, you've been given the answer
jQuery.fn.on + delegation
@kishorJoshi I know exactly what you want ^
don't blame you. My company is paying for all of it, so I'm stoked
look at the link I sent and the last example.
@Shmiddty yeah thats badass man
15:36
It's the first major conference of my career
I wanna goto google i/o
get all dat swag
that'd be cool
I really want to go to SxSW
And Blizzcon, but I'd probably have to work blizzcon
yeah Google io would be a great one to go to
@Shmiddty man I was considering that this year as well
its not even that much money, the tickets that is
My first conference is the javascript one I tried to get @SomeKittens to speak at. I bought my $200 ticket already
SxSW or blizzcon?
15:37
blizzcon
they're about $100, right?
yea
SxSW is near-ish me, but the price is outrageous
.. I've been to farm conferences :(
yeah SxSW is super spensive
last I checked at least
15:39
I love it when I lock my keys in my car <3
Makes for such a great morning
@SterlingArcher oh man Ive done that.. but I've got remote unlock through my phone
friggin life saver
I love technology lol
My fob broke in college and I refuse to pay $130 to have it programmed lol
I guess I'm paying for it now
At least my brother is bringing my spare to me after work but it's still annoying
ugh $130?! so ridiculous
I know right? Unbelievable
Ive heard they were pricey, just never had to get one replaced lol
now I hope I never do
man.. you could really eff someones day by stealing their fob and just throwing it away
heh keys are what like... $3 to make?
15:41
@SterlingArcher but your package is in the US of A
@SterlingArcher actually does your fob have a key in it?
I can detach an actual key from inside mine
wonder if you could get a copy of that
posted on February 24, 2015

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Does anyone have any experience Unit Testing Angular Controllers? I'm having trouble getting it to work. Even following this post, I'm still getting "module is not defined". I'm using Angular v1.3.13
Nah I don't even carry the fob anymore because it's just dead weight
No spare inside which would be awesome
drive it like you stole it
user image
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haha
@SterlingArcher My wife's car only has the fob. there is no key to turn the car on. It took us about 2 years to realize there was a key inside the fob to manually unlock the doors.
@BenFortune nice color epaper
I have an android wear with an OLED love it
nice
Keep wanting to get a moto 360, but the battery life really puts me off
15:45
I guess its improved
I haven't used mine in ages @Loktar
but it has the worse processor out of all of them, thats why I didnt get it
damn charging it is such a PITA
The kickstarter is going up by $250k every couple minutes
@rlemon I wear mine everyday to work, not at home though
epaper is great, only downside is the refresh times
I love how epaper looks though so easy on the eyes
15:46
Looks like it's not epaper though
> Pebble has never used E-ink, despite all the confusion in the media. The color one doesn't look like E-ink now either. They used some transflective PixelQi-like displays in the past, but not sure if they're using an upgraded version of that now (with color!) or something like Mirasol, and they are just naming it the same.
wait what?
what does it use then, some hybrid approach
Um, I'm very new to manipulating the DOM. Um, and I'm immensely sucking at it.
no way its an lcd, its too clear... if it is thats awesome
Could someone help
Good day peeps
15:49
its an lcd yeh
Does anyone of you know online tools which can allow me to make charts similar to dis tutorials.jenkov.com/images/software-architecture/… mostly for infrastructure
> Pebble Time features a new color e-paper display and microphone for responding to notifications.
why do they call it epaper then?
seeing them in the stores it looks just like the kindles display which also uses epaper
That's just a quote I picked up on HN, not sure.
no thats e-ink
hmm weird, it says a transflective lcd
it sounds like it basically mimicks epaper in appearance, but isn't true epaper
15:52
I think I want one
yeah they look pretty cool
haha I kind of want one as well.. wish they had a round face one
@Loktar:I have read documentation and tried but some code but it is working fine if there is mouseClick,MouseHover event on some element I want to add and remove a whole div..How I should acheive it?Any Direction will be great help
Did anyone notice in the pebble video "apps from iphone, samsung and android"
actually wait
that makes sense
I need help. I wanna make something like xkcd or smbc or explosm with the next prev buttons but I'm failing.
It's a boy!
12
15:54
@Deepak Pretty weird that it's not just "iOS and Android"
Does the pebble have a heartbeat monitor?
Just got out of 5 months scan
@FlorianMargaine grats!
@Shmiddty Nope
@BenFortune I think its because of default samsung apps from their own app store
samsung has their own messaging service and health monitor so i suppose it makes sense
15:55
@BenFortune Do you know if the new one will?
Whoops. last link didn't have Javascript in it. Here's the new one: liveweave.com/NRGFuP
@FlorianMargaine Congrats!
The new one has just been released, doesn't have one either.
@FlorianMargaine grats man!
I read scan as scam
and was really confused
15:57
@BenFortune lame. Is it possible to do a heartbeat sensor on a single arm? Edit... yes. apparently it is. It seems silly they wouldn't include it
It's the name in english isn't it?
Ultrasound generally
In France there are 3 of them. One at 3 months, one at 5 months and another one at 8 months
Ah, ultrasound then.
He showed his bigass dick
LOL ^ now thats perfect English
15:58
I was like... Dude it's bigger than mine
It just looks bigger on the monitor. ;)
would this translate into french well?
@rlemon lol

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