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18:00
I had an issue with college today, basically they might rip me off if i quit
am with my fiance atm :P
parents taking uni's side -_-
@rlemon that picture kicks ass
@Loktar my fiance wants moar levels and twinkles in grapple hero
maybe open source it :-> :->
twinkles?
HULK HOGAN SMASH
I'm not open sourcin shit brah
but I'm working on it still
18:01
@Loktar ever hard about the game icy tower ? Basically the power boosts like it.. he leaves a trail when boosting
@Loktar psh u can share with me or lemon <: and amaan :D
I havent seen that one in particular, but Ive seen a lot of those platform jump higher games
Icy Tower was the shit
before they turned it into a facebook game
@Loktar spartacus or game of throne??
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@samir I like them both
18:05
I am making a tower jumper aswell :P, no am kidding i am making super sexy ui for snapick photo insight
want a sneakpeak bitches ?
@AbhishekHingnikar if he shares his game with me 10/10 would rip him off.
...Maybe.
just to teach him a lesson not to share that shit - be greedy, hold onto it, make da $$$
dont worry Im not sharing it anyway
nah i'd commit code to him
18:07
good :P
I mean its not a hard concept regardless
i mean its so darn easy to rebuild it ffs
it is executed well IMO
but after paying 1300 for art I;m not sharing shit.
i almost did it for somebody in college today :-(
18:07
you have open source JS versions which do basically the same shit
@Loktar holy shit
but not as well executed
yeah exactly
my js1k is the same concept
$1300 ?
$ FUCKING 1300 ?
@AbhishekHingnikar why do you think games cost so much
art + music aint cheap
18:07
I played it the other day.. oh man its so bad now since I'm used to grapple hero
I sure hope you meant 1300 rupees
DUDE @Loktar fucking idiot :-(
bleh yeah sounds man idk what Im going to do about them
scratch.mit.edu :-/ , there are some FUCKING awesome kids who would do it for free
@AbhishekHingnikar that quote was from multiple artists
its a pretty standard rate for the work I wanted
18:08
@Loktar I seem to be the only person here who understands that you paid a fair price.
lol ikr!
cc thats it :P
fuck CC
seriously man :'(
@Loktar dude, I'll draw you small images for a fraction of the price, if at all. Larger images or mad animations.. not so much my talent.
18:08
I cant remember what it came out to hourly, wasnt terribly high, like $18/hr for 80 hrs
@rlemon he could aslo give them name in credits they
they'd go nuts
you want professional art that you can call your own and have 'branding' with. you pay.
@AbhishekHingnikar names in credits dont pay bills
no other way around it
esp for a game that might get 1k users if that
18:09
@Loktar I am talking about scratch users :-/
@Loktar nahh man.
tell you want build me a facebook clone Ill do the design, and ill put you in the credits :P
go for the gold.
40 million downloads
@Loktar haha
...41 mil.
18:09
@rlemon haha well that would be ideal, but Im being realistic
@Loktar anyways u kinda shocked me
@Loktar i hope it pays you well :'/
if it bombs it bombs, but I plan on making more.
@AbhishekHingnikar honestly, for what he's getting that is a good price.
that cost makes me sad :-(
@AbhishekHingnikar dude it takes people time to do this stuff, and they have hourly rates
18:10
$1300 is almost higher then i used to make as a cloud arch at meta rain :-|
if I had a 2 week project for a dev Id be paying a shitload more
@Loktar yeah i get that :-/
'merica !
$1,300 is a month's rent
I got a quote around that from 3 diff artists
1 wasn't even in America fyi
another was a studio
@SomeKittensUx2666 rich person hsuh
18:12
yeah but on the flipside I could keep the free art I have now, release it fully done
@Loktar indian ?
counting cost of living, I'm probably one of the lower-paid people here.
and make $0
> lol he's using public domain art, crappy game
dude I just played the new assasins creed omg its so awesome, they used all public domain models! :P
gotta pay for that branding :P
18:13
Hmm, how would I put ads on my website to start generating traffic?
umm
you have it backwards a bit
ads don't generate traffic :P
lol oops, it is backwards
Must... dick around... in the ticketing system.
I was hoping to start making a couple bucks to cover the server costs each month
But I don't have much traffic yet
adsense
18:15
@RUJordan add porn
I should probably finish my website first, beyond ZombieScript.
its hard to make anything worthwhile though w/o a decent % of users
@AbhishekHingnikar I was thinking about making a porn site :O
I mean think of a CTR (click through rate) thats 1.5%
and imagine you make 0.05 per click
@Loktar link to your site?
18:15
@Loktar sorry if i offended you :-/ didn't knew it took that much
zg.net
zombiegames.net
for 1k users thats 0.75
loktar.com <-- i think'
zombiegames.net
@AbhishekHingnikar nah you didnt offend me
not everyone understands how everything works! :P
@Loktar one of my friends built a zombie game at wp
you run you run you run
much like temple run
nice
flash game?
18:17
@Loktar C#
i wrote half of it in order to debug it :-| god darnit c# is crazy
@Loktar since my game is a zombie game, once i get a v1 beta out, could I pay you for add space on your site?
@RUJordan eh Ill list it for free on the right
and ill do a news post
youll get around 80-120 visits a day from the right side
I'll keep that in mind :) I've almost completed the game engine, and it's finally content time
thats what my other sites avg that are on the ads, it fluctuates a bit though depending on whats advertised, obviously zombie related stuff does better though :P
I could also add it as a game @RUJordan
I have another html5 game its in an iframe
I think I'll have to start doing PHP stuff though. Just for statistics and maybe accounts
18:19
so it runs off of the dudes site
@Loktar that's wicked!
ah well if its going to be a while website type page nm hosting it then
yeah no, this is future talk right now. I'm not worried about advertising it until it's at a good playable level
haha oh shit its broken
when I had to redo game displays I must not have accounted for the html5 iframe game :?
@Loktar used top rather than window?
used the scrollbar trick to detect document ready in IE?
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18:24
I text a guy on craigslist about an engine and end up invited to his place to check out each others shit. Weird.
@JanDvorak lol are you talking about zg.net code?
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And it looks like I get to drive to Canada:D
Its pretty bad man. I just recently upgraded jquery from vs 1.4
I made it in 2007 or 2008 and barely changed the front end code since
@Loktar ew. Ew. Ew
I try not to mess with it much at all since SEO is black magic
18:25
it's not
worried if I change too much Ill lose my spots
voodoo magix
SEO is simple: change something, and your ranking will drop. Change it back, and it will drop further.
lol pretty much :P
Anybody know a good open source blog script I can use for my website? I'd very much not have to write my own for basic posts/comments
18:27
although I've been #1 for the term "zombie games" for a while at least
since 2009 I think?
(I've never blogged before, so this is new for me)
idk. Its dropped a few times to #2 which is annoying, but it eventually goes back
@RUJordan Ill just say it and get the hate. Wordpress.
if you're using a php host its dead simple to setup and use.
@RUJordan depends. Do you want something a little geeky or something you don't give a shit about and just write your content?
@Loktar I'd rather use blogger for this situation tbh
I hate blogger's visual style thats my only issue with it
@FlorianMargaine I'm talking basic of the basic. I can post a blog. People can comment. People can share on fb or twitter.
18:30
@RUJordan do you want to dabble with it or just "click -> I'm done"?
I don't even care about subscriptions, but that might be something to care about so maybe that too
it's either jekyll or blogger that I'd propose tbh
@RUJordan I used blogger for a while. It was nice, but not very customizable.
I really want to start again, just need to find the time.
you have a lot less options to customize, but it has everything you need to setup a blog
@FlorianMargaine for now, click and done.
blogger eh?
blogger then
got 400gb of music saved off my old hard disk :D i am feeling fucking lucky
// boy i didn't even realize my music collection is THAT HUGE :-|
I'd recommend against Ghost. Looks pretty, doesn't do much.
but maybe that's just my bias against design-first
even SimonSarris uses wordpress :P
18:31
Wordpress all the way
@FlorianMargaine blogger.com takes me to some google admin site that says I don't have permission..?
connect with your google account
honestly who uses blogger and has a relevant blog?
^ serious question
I cant remember the last time I ended up on a blogger site
even saying "blogger" takes me back to visions of Digg, and reflective buttons
lol Im not trying to be a dick, honestly wondering
18:34
@Loktar well wouldn't it be under my domain name? I'm just using the template
@Loktar I often fall on blogger websites when googling stuff
@RUJordan it is, but the template is recognizable
^ unless they changed it and I didnt notice
so I dont realize now when Im on a blogger site
@RUJordan who's your host?
hostgator
look in your cpanel
you should have some 1 click installs
probably towards the bottom
OH WORRRRD!
18:38
I would log into mine but am at work. I know they have wordpress, but they might have blogger even
super easy to install and try them out, see what you like
It's installing now :)
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Aww shit now I gotta learn how to use wordpress again
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Yeah...
@Jhawins Aww shit now I should kill myself instead (source)
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18:42
No wordpress
With the install, shouldn't my domain have a template up now?
It's just my old index.html page
it might be under a new dir
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And so it begins...
like yoursite/wordpress
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@RUJordan the one-click installs from HostGator are awful!! They fucked me all up!
18:45
ohhhh
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Whole site 404ed cause it wrote an htaccess file that did that since I decided to install something. And everything is a few versions behind.
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Then it wouldn't actually remove anything... I did something that used the database and then I couldn't access anything and support had to fix it.
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And they were like "don't use the 1-click stuff it's awful" haha
lol really?
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Haha in different words but yeah..
18:47
well its not Hostgators per se
does it make any sense to qunit test controllers?
okay, so question: how can I backup and restore a mysql db (linux) without being able to run mysql (mysqldump is a no option)
but cpanel's
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Something like > A lot of users have weird problems when using our 1-click installs so maybe you should just go the manual route
@rlemon can you connect to it externall?
18:47
I can't start the daemon
to the remote port using a gui tool, or something
ah...
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No it's HostGator's.
but I need the db's table structures
@Jhawins I can buy 1 click installs via WHM for my personal server that runs whm/cpanel
I can re-create the data.
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18:48
@Loktar HostGator has their own 1-click installer. There are others, and HostGator has another one in the cPanel too. But the shitty one is there's and the other one hasn't had an update in like 4 years.
@Jhawins whmxtra.com
^ its shit like that
ah maybe they did roll their own then, seems weird to do when there are so many available
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I'm not disputing that that's true, but the one I'm talking about is hostgator's :P
hi, do you know any perfect employee monitoring(by screenshot) software.
online application..
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18:49
!!urban perfect
@Fasilkk if I did I wouldnt tell you
@Jhawins [perfect](http://perfect.urbanup.com/1032583) 1.Someone with few flaws; possessing many desirable qualities.

Someone with many if not all of these traits:

beautiful on the inside and out.
attractive.
athletic.
generous.
caring.
kind.
intelligent.
funny.
fun to be around.
hardworking.
friendly.

No one is perfect, but some people are close.

2. Exactly what you're looking for and want.
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Was hoping for "nothing is perfect"
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//!!undo
> I just want to monitor employees, I promise
even then fu :P
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18:50
@rlemon TIM HORTON'S MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO ME!!
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Finally!
@Loktar, Why not?;) it will help to increase productivity.
lol how?
By your employees being scared, and pissed?
will also increase turn over rate
if you're having productivity issues, spying wont solve it.
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Holy shit. They're putting 15 Tim Horton's in Fort Wayne in the next 4 years.
@Jhawins MI has a bunch of them too
18:51
This guy's SQL queries look like they were sponsored by all the wannabe jocks in my middle school. AND 1 everywhere...
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They're opening 3.75 stores a year in 1 single city.
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> 300 locations are planned for the U.S. by the end of 2018, including 15 in Fort Wayne.
> Press CTRL+R if the layout is "messed up". This might fix the issue.
trying to sound sophisticated are we
@SomeKittensUx2666 LOL where did you got o school dude
> Our jocks here write SQL all day, and they suck at it
!!wiki worcester, NY
18:52
Worcester is a town in Otsego County, New York, United States. The population was 2,220 at the 2010 census. Worcester is on the southeast border of the county and is northeast of Oneonta. Worcester Central School presently has 369 students enrolled in grades K-12. History Settlement began on Schenevus Creek around 1788. The town was established from part of the Town of Cherry Valley in 1797. In 1808, the Towns of Decatur, Maryland, and Westford were formed from part of Worcester. Geography According to the United States Census Bureau, the town has a total area of , of which, of it ...
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@Loktar Yeah they started in Canada and have been creeping their way south for years and years. I used to go to Canada once a year and each year the Timmy's were like an hour or so closer haha
> Select ball where hands = 'here'
Was more referring to:
!!wiki and1
AND1 is an American athletic shoe company specializing in basketball shoes and clothing. Founded in 1993, the company's headquarters were located in Paoli, Pennsylvania before being relocated to Aliso Viejo, California. Company history In 1993, AND1 began as a graduate school project partnership of Seth Berger, Jay Coen Gilbert and Tom Austin while they were graduate students at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. The company name is derived from a phrase used by basketball broadcasters: when a player is fouled while shooting, makes the shot and makes the awarded foul sho...
I have 4 tim's in a 3 minute radius
srs
18:52
hahah ok that makes more sense
@Loktar, i didn't mean Spying..;)
just wait until you start seeing the AirJordan Condition
@Mosho I have 0 tim's in a 10-minute radius :(
they are owned by wendy's since 199something so I guess they were planning to infest the US too for a while
I have a Tim's in my town :-)
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18:54
I have 0 stores/possible places to exchange money for food within 10 minutes of work :(
@KendallFrey location: ontario, canada
I call bs
it's true
bumfuk ontario?
unless I drive like a maniac
18:54
fooscript.com/blog fooblog baby
@Mosho pretty much
where about
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@Mosho They shove a shit ton of them into a town, not a bunch of them all over the place haha. Maybe they haven't gotten to take over his town yet.
@KendallFrey Me too.....
@SomeKittensUx2666 -_-
@Mosho less than an hour from rlemon
18:55
I had one a five-minute walk from college, I miss it.
@Jhawins Where do you work again?
@KendallFrey cool, then you are less than an hour from me too
oh yeah?
> On 29 June 2009, Tim Hortons Inc. announced that, pending shareholder approval, the chain's operations would be reorganized under a new publicly traded company, also named "Tim Hortons Inc.", incorporated under the Canada Business Corporations Act. The change was being made primarily for tax purposes.
maybe we should get a coffee at tim's sometime :D
18:56
idk
you in KW?
their 'merger' was basically undone.
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@Retsam For a little entertainment magazine with 4 people on payroll...
good stuff
@Jhawins I meant more where the office is
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18:57
@Retsam About 10 minutes North of Columbia City, it's like 45 minutes West of Fort Wayne.
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Right in the middle between Fort Wayne and Warsaw (you probably know these?)
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Just realized how strange the town name "warsaw" is O.o
is it weird because it's war-saw or because it's in poland
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war-saw. Mine's not in Poland..
!!urban warsaw
18:59
@Mosho [Warsaw](http://warsaw.urbanup.com/2479114) 1) Capital of Poland
2) Used to describe something with positive aspects, alternative to [\[awesome\]](http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=awesome) or [\[cool\]](http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cool).
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I'm like 6 hours South of you.

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