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9:00 PM
...be that as it may, I find that you get more with honey than with vinegar, and I'm a believer in compromise and civil discussion.
 
@Jhawins idk if it is really. but ook
 
user1596138
@phenomnomnominal I just don't want 1 single person's seemingly unique opinion to govern how this works. That's just absurd.
 
@Jhawins yeah, I agree.
 
@balpha please note: @Jhawins does not speak for the room nor do his views represent the views of the room owners in any way shape or form.
 
@Jhawins he just jelly he didn't come up with the idea xD
 
9:00 PM
@Jhawins I agree with the sentiment, but you need to approach this in a civil manor
 
user1596138
@rlemon :I should've stated this myself.
 
we are not burning a noob at the stake
 
I agree with rlemon
 
we are discussing
 
no we only do that on thursdays
 
9:01 PM
manner
manor
where is Kendall to prick this up with proper english ?
 
he may be hard to work with and he may not give us the ability to have what we want, but we need to treat this delicately and not burn any bridges.
we will ultimately get more of what we want that way
 
@rlemon is the bot free to be used in other chat rooms.. the game dev room could do with something like that
 
user1596138
@rlemon No, I don't think I do. Did he approach this in a civil manor? Is he trying to force his incredibly uncommon opinion down my throat, and yours as well? I'd rather be removed from the site than watch it be molded to one person's non-majority opinion just because he got butt hurt over a simple (factually arguably useful) greeting.
 
reasonable and rational discussion generally works best.
@Jhawins he works for SO
 
bad time to talk about position: absolute?
 
9:03 PM
SO implemented the rules
so yea, he has every right to do whatever he wants
 
@mikedidthis nope
 
the only thing we can do is debate with him to try and get him to change his mind
if you don't like it
leave
 
@Dave You need to pay-per-message
 
user1596138
@rlemon I know. SO isn't supposed to work like this though. SO is for everyone, moderated and run by everyone. 1 person's opinion should never be able to make any decisions.
 
lol @copy how much :D
 
9:04 PM
@Jhawins if you are not going to act civil about this then I'll just manually mute you
it is hurting any discussion we hope to have
 
maybe the discussion should be in a seperate chat room ?
 
@Dave 0.005$, but I'll make a special offer for you because you're my friend: 0.003$
 
yay \o/
 
@Dave we are excluded from the internal discussion
 
user1596138
@rlemon You have no right. I've made my case, and it has been made apparent that I in no way intend to speak for anyone but myself.
 
9:05 PM
Actually I have every right
 
well i know but isnt there like a meta discussion publicly where people can vote/put their views across?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum for you for now: new.javascriptroom.com (if you think of a better subdomain, let me know)
 
given to me by the site you are currently on
 
there is a meta Dave. on mobile so can someone please link it
 
anyone else not want to act civil about this? honestly this is important to a lot of us and i'll be damned if you guys are going to act like pissed off teenagers when we are trying to get changes made to the system we've been longing for all this time
 
ignore the fact that it's on SU
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Nice! Also facebook or gmail and other things but yeah. I get that
 
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Q: Some issues with a recent action that was taken regarding the Root Access chat bot

allquixoticI would like to discuss with some civility a recent action that has occurred in the Root Access chatroom. First, allow me to catch everyone up on the facts of the situation: Overview Q: What happened? A: Please see this message in Root Access chat. This decision is the primary reason for askin...

 
thanks.
 
@rlemon as you currently run the bot its best you speak on behalf of the room
 
9:07 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum ( :
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Niiice
 
the rest of us can sit and wait
 
Start up the git :-)
 
@Dave I think all room owners should speak on behalf of the room, not just me
 
Its very similar to my one for Goph
 
9:07 PM
@rlemon and regulars :-)
 
actually i think i should just share my code for Goph its more ore less the same :P but .err i cant .. nvm realized xD i have messed mean a lot
 
Be back later. Work to do
 
@Dave its ok I will ask another time.
 
user1596138
@rlemon Sometimes you have to stand up and punch someone in the face instead of politely debating with them. Obviously Balpha has the mindset that he can do absolutely whatever he wants, and that's right, he can. We have no need to stay and deal with bullshit like that, I don't intend to. You guys have already started to abandon ship for god sake.
 
@Neal fork mean.io
 
9:08 PM
@Neal it has been proven that not all regulars are ready to act in a mature fashion
 
lets do good for the world ... or shall we make our own ?
Tartempion ?
 
@rlemon That is true. But some of us have been learning :-D
 
@Jhawins no we are taking the proper path.
 
@mikedidthis just ask the question someone might help you if they can
 
punching someone in the face (metaphorically) might make you feel better, but it will never accomplish your goals unless your goal was strictly to punch them in the face.
 
9:09 PM
@Jhawins where is punching in the face the right choice any where :S ?
 
MEAN stack sounds best for the chat
 
@SomeKittens therudestbastardsintheworld.com
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum i guess u didn't read the description did u ?
of the pen :->
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Oh, nope
 
user1596138
@rlemon You personally are taking the path that you've decided is proper. Balpha is taking the path that he thinks is proper. You both think you're right, and I think I'm right. Who decides which of us is right?
 
9:09 PM
do it xD
 
@rlemon this.
 
@Jhawins actually no I am taking the stand as a room owner to say anyone who wants to be a part of the discussion in this room about the future of this room must do so in a civil manner
if you don't, then frankly I don't care.
 
Commented on meta.
 
user1125394
@dystroy more context: a webapp, not for me, but helping other dudes sometimes, and they seem to struggle with jquery spaguetti walls
 
9:11 PM
@Jhawins We didn't pick paths and we're on the same side with @balpha . I value him and his opinion and all he's done for this site and community.
 
does any room owner disagree with me trying to make people act like adults while discussing this?!
because if you do i'll shut up
 
The room project is not meant to replace the chat, it's just a fun side project.
 
user1596138
@rlemon The worst I've done is told someone to "grow the fuck up" which is exactly what you're telling me to do.
 
user1596138
The word for that is hypocrisy.
 
you came into this room with hostility over the issue
 
9:11 PM
Why did @Jhawins suddenly become a tiny box?
^_^
 
you constantly jump around in conversation to make yourself look like you are making a point, but you are not
 
user1596138
I'm pissed off by the principle behind this.
 
and you pinged the diamond telling him to grow the fuck up
no
 
why so emotionally invested
 
Who wants to scaffold the NodeJS serverside?
 
9:12 PM
just no
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum i can but
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Do we want to use socket.io?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar no, you're already working on it.
 
i think somebody amongst you or florian should
 
@rlemon is the guy the founder of SO ?
 
9:12 PM
when has harsh words or insults ever made your point any stronger when in an actual debate? never.
 
@Neal I'm still for sails
 
@Dave no balpha wrote the chat originally
 
florian because hes good with designing the code
 
ohh
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Is there any graph with a comparison?
 
9:13 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum scaffold means writing the core. One man should write the very core and then people can improve on it and write plugins
 
@Neal sails.js
 
well i wouldn't argue with that dude then xD
 
@FlorianMargaine I know.
 
@Dave ohh I have no issues arguing with him.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum anyways though these m making a scaffolding for writing social networks :P
 
9:13 PM
it is how you argue that makes the difference
 
The modeling, the user object, message object, etc.
 
user1596138
@rlemon SO is arguably mine as much as it is yours, or Balpha's.
 
xD cause damn i have made almost 5 of them [2 launched !]
 
user1596138
That is the point I'm trying to make.
 
@Jhawins but this room isn't
 
9:14 PM
@FlorianMargaine What would be more comfy with, Mongo or SQL?
 
we wanna use bootstrap ? i mean can i use bootstrap to design ?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum oooo it uses socket.io. cool.
 
and in this room I am telling you to discuss this matter with a little more couth
 
@rlemon did you see the comment I just left on meta? Says my opinion on you :)
 
@Neal aand?
 
9:14 PM
hehe I'll check it out now
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Looks cool.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I don't care about "web scale", go with postgres
 
user1596138
@rlemon This room is a conduit of conversation. There are no rules stating not to tell people to grow up, and no rules stating not to use the fuck word. What have I done wrong?
 
Damn, I didn't know hammers and lemons went together.
 
dude I told you to act civil
you said no
 
9:15 PM
@FlorianMargaine cool, everyone here cool with postgres? I wish @Shmiddty and @Esailija were here to discuss this.
 
that is what you did wrong
 
And when they do, it hurts the eyes.
 
user1596138
@rlemon I didn't say no.
 
@FlorianMargaine what about web 2.0 and social media?
 
@rlemon That is why he is a tiny box on my screen... Just too much....
 
9:15 PM
omg w/e man. you know what I told you. you do it again and I'll mute you. enjoy the chat.
 
@Jhawins no one has a problem with being you angry. The problem happens when your being angry becomes representative of the opinion of the room.
 
user1596138
@rlemon Also, to this one, punching someone in the face has saved my life. So there's that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's a reference to "MongoDB is web scale" - a classic.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum MOAR BUZZWORDS
 
ugh, apparently chrome-32 does not show the "busy" cursor anymore when a new page is loading...
 
9:16 PM
We should use jtypes
 
@phenomnomnominal LMFAO
 
punching in the face might save your life but there are better self defence moves that are 100x more effective.
 
Hello!
 
I wish I was good enough to help y'all build the chat
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I saw it.
 
user1596138
9:17 PM
Opinions voiced through this account ("Jhawins") have absolutely nothing to do with anyone else in this room.
 
user1596138
@phenomnomnominal ^
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I feel like I should use it at least once, just so I know how bad it is.
 
@FlorianMargaine I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't think I would be a good representative on the room. I would love to have a few reps from SE and a few reps from this room together for a discussion about the chat (if they are open to opinions)
 
@IagoBruno welcome!
2
 
@phenomnomnominal not even once.
 
9:17 PM
@ThiefMaster Thank god we have about:config with tons of options … oh wait
 
@copy chrome://flags .. point?
 
that's why I use firefox for most things ;)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That doesn't bring back the activity cursor
 
I have a question: I have to take the title from another site with javascript?
 
you can't (unless you can use ajax+CORS to retrieve that site's html)
 
9:19 PM
... and pray javascript doesn't change the title
 
@IagoBruno they'd have to opt in.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol to ur youtube link
 
user1596138
So there is my opinion. This is bullshit, I don't agree, blah blah blah, I think this is stupid. The room doesn't, but I do. There is nothing wrong with this, and this completely conveys my point, so I am done.
 
actually the room quite agrees with the sentiment. We don't want this and we are going to debate this all we can.
however civil debate is much more appropriate between professionals than non civil debate
 
I was seeing an extension for Chrome that does this with setRequestHeader but ta very comprensado the code, I could not see
 
user1125394
9:21 PM
what's the simplest way to use a database from js, I think couchdb is nice for that
 
@BartekBanachewicz but from another site
 
@cↄ Firebase probably.
 
@IagoBruno extensions have more privileges than normal site javascript
 
iframe.document.title ??
 
I hate to be the guy who wasn't paying attention all day lol but whats the deal with the chat?
its going away?
 
9:22 PM
@rlemon cross origin restrictions
 
it makes other chat bots look bad?
 
saying "its stupid" doesn't help without reasoning
 
@JanDvorak really you can't even read the title?
 
yo yo peeps
 
damn. I thought you would be able to observe it
 
9:23 PM
@Jhawins we do think it's stupid. We're just trying to decide as a community how to approach the problem.
 
hey @KirstyHarris
wassup
 
how is everyone today?
 
just peachy
 
@rlemon nope. I don't think iframe.document can even be evaluated without getting a security exception
 
@KirstyHarris fuming, pissed off , on war path
 
9:23 PM
@Jhawins and yelling at mods probably isn't going to be effective.
 
oh... that aint good...
 
thanks, I'll look for more about
 
KILL EVERYTHING lol
 
feeling patriotic ! and also sworn to stand till we die !
 
you are next @KirstyHarris
 
9:23 PM
@phenomnomnominal did I say otherwise?
 
user1125394
@BenjaminGruenbaum hmm cool will look
 
sorry
 
and I'm only enforcing us being civil because balpha said in meta that he is not interested in having a heated debate.
 
@JanDvorak sorry, meant for @Jhawins
 
9:24 PM
that was weird
 
lol dare i ask? :P
 
user1596138
@rlemon All I said was "grow the fuck up" to another adult. I don't think that's too far. If you could hear a tone in my text like my voice, you would be able to tell that I'm empathetically saying that I don't see why you're so pissed off. I honestly don't think that was too far. If you would like to get rid of the messages you can, obviously. Otherwise I don't know what you're freaking out over.
 
@phenomnomnominal then I fully agree
 
@JanDvorak yeah, it's weird.
 
dude I just said don't or i'll mute you
 
9:24 PM
@Jhawins I do think it's too far
 
user1596138
Wait
 
accept that fact and stfu on the whole thing ok?
 
SMH how is that not too far lol?
 
@Jhawins Why are you two still having that discussion -_-
 
idk
 
9:25 PM
You're both cool with each other. Just lay low and we'll all be ok.
 
i would happily say grow the fuck up to someone... :P
 
@KirstyHarris yes, but part of growing the fuck up is knowing when that won't help.
 
@Jhawins this better not be you
http://memecrunch.com/meme/7A5N/tells-people-to-grow-the-fuck-up/image.png
 
point is people! We want to engage them with proper discussion. They will not have said discussion if they think we are all on a rage fit. so act accordingly please for the love of jebus
 
9:26 PM
oh yh... i know that part... to some degree... i just imagine stapling things to their heads instead
 
I have used all of your pictures, thank you so much
 
@stewbydoo is that John Resig?
@AbhishekHingnikar progress?
 
i was thinking the same @BenjaminGruenbaum :P
 
lol @stewbydoo
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum somewhat
i got userlist placed
 
9:27 PM
Yay :)
@FlorianMargaine take on sails?
 
and mobile friendly
:P
 
user1596138
@rlemon I am formally inviting you to a separate room for just us so as not to piss anyone else off so that I may ask you 1 single question (nothing kinky).
 
haha yea
 
maybe I should make a web app not a C# one
 
9:27 PM
who dafuq is john resig?
3
is he some american dude?
 
thing is I don't know shit about C#
 
ejohn.org @KirstyHarris
 
@Jhawins s/piss off/anger/
 
@FlorianMargaine the advantage is it already plays nice with websockets
 
@KirstyHarris you sure yoarent a blond ?
 
9:27 PM
yikes ^^
 
@KirstyHarris he's related to Jake Weary
 
you no remember i no coder lol :P
oh... narrows it down,... still no wiser... but hey at least i learnt something
 
He made jquery
 
@BartekBanachewicz if you don't C# you need glasses son.
 
oh!
thx for that @rlemon something i understood XD
 
9:29 PM
> Things i know:- JQuery (again a little still learning) (The guy who made jQuery)
 
@Dave Well it's a rather simple language
 
i hope my joke wasn't lost on you then :P
 
argh,... media queries queries can go suck my plastic balls tonight, i cba with them
 
@Dave oh god.
 
9:29 PM
Its like, why do Java programmers wear glasses? They don't C#
 
I got it already.
You got me unprepared.
 
lol
 
waits for the questions...
 
@BartekBanachewicz What app?
@BartekBanachewicz I actually have a bit of experience with apps.
 
@rlemon... lookies i used jquery! kirstymarks.com
 
9:30 PM
@mikedidthis did you even ask your question in the end
 
claps at my awesomeness attempt
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that, more or less
 
@KirstyHarris image-repeat problem on that site :(
 
<script type="text/javascript">
  jQuery(document).ready(function(){
        jQuery('.scrollup').click(function(){
            jQuery("html, body").animate({ scrollTop: 0 }, 600);
            return false;
        });

    });
</script>

	</body>
 
@Dave ha no, its a touchy one, I will leave it for the time being.
 
9:30 PM
ohh Kristy ohh god no
 
i got that off a tut lol!
 
1) do you know why you use jQuery(document).ready( ??
2) do you know why i'm ohh goding you about using it here?
 
@dave where sweet?
 
@BartekBanachewicz For Windows Phone?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum nope. for desktop.
 
9:31 PM
@KirstyHarris NEVER use code you don't understand blindly from a tut
 
@BartekBanachewicz Metro W8 app?
 
your background image is repeating horizontally for me @KirstyHarris
 
user1125394
hmm the noob inside me is wondering where is the data stored with firebase
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum nah, for internal use. So can be simple winforms app.
 
1). it loads on the document load? 2) because i used jQuery instead of $?
 
9:32 PM
@KirstyHarris you design it on a 1348px screen by any chance or mac book pro?
 
@mikedidthis yh, desiging it on that res. I aint done any media queries or owt yet
hence the plastic sux balls comment
 
@KirstyHarris it waits for the HTML to be parsed. but the body is parsed top to bottom. your html is already been read by the time you start waiting for it to be read.
it is redundant
 
@BartekBanachewicz If I have to do GUI I always prefer to do web. It's fast, deployment is instant (which is awesome), it's platform independent and it's the platform with the most libraries by far.
 
and it seems everyone and their dog does it
 
@KirstyHarris i.imgur.com/5jQ0ew6.jpg see here
 
9:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'd not do anything with Winforms btw. It's old, and pretty deprecated. If anything C# use WPF. But honestly it sounds like a no brainer.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum thing is, it loses "It's a proffesional app" appeal
 
@dave, thanks for this lovely xxx
what res are you on?
i gotta to maybe a bg repeat or summat
 
@KirstyHarris I mean, when you sliced the bg, that is what size you made it. So on anything bigger, it does what @Dave said
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum but you're right, I should use WPF instead
 
yh, ... im considering swapping it tbf
 
9:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Only if it doesn't look professional. You can always wrap it with AppJS
 
@mikedidthis that comment was for you
lol
 
what i do is gradient the edges of the image to a plain colour and add background-color: to the same color so large screens dont have the issue. i don't think it will look good if you repeat-x
 
user1125394
@cↄ on teh cloud!
 
@Dave ty for that :)
 
im on 1900 by 1200
 
9:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That'd teach you to appreciate web haha. I've been doing WPF for a month and a half recently - I did not like it very much. It's an epiphany of bad design choices and third party tools help if you want to stay sane.
 
fuk thats big!
 
well times 2 as i have 2 monitors :P
 
but i dont browser the net with dual screen its daft
 
@BartekBanachewicz Or you can use Haskell. You like it oh so very much, it has GTK binding that runs on Windows just fine. Let's see you put your money where your mouth is and do it with Haskell.
 
9:36 PM
hmmmf, need to sort the fonts out as well, forgot to load them... good job i aint set the engines to scroll this bad boy
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd never dare touch Haskell for anything like that. It'd be Web, or C# or Python. Maybe Scala if I have to work against JVM code.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm still too lame with Haskell.
I need more time to learn.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yet you don't even know C#, so doing it in Haskell should be easier since you have a stronger starting point.
 
@dave... got summat funny for ya.. u just reminded me
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I am more familiar with the paradigm
 
9:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Moreover, like you said it's clearly a better language for GUI. Why not use it?
 
Whereas my brain still has to crunch to read IO Monadic code
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm still too lame with Haskell.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's not your brain, it's that code.
 
I'm thinking of banning jQuery from this new project just to be an asshole
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum no, it's only my lack of knowledge and experience
 
@copy hangout
 
9:38 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Stop blaming your brain for things the languages sucks with.
 
@BadgerGirl Skype for now
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I can read C++ template metaprogramming just fine, and it makes way less sense than IO Monad
 
awww, lovers...
 
But I've been doing C++ for years, and Haskell since this summer.
 
you two are so damn cute
 
9:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz either you honestly believe Haskell is a better choice here, in which case be the better coder and use it or you don't - in which case admit that Haskell is not a silver bullet and it's easier and nicer for you to do GUI in other languages and use those.
 
@copy No, I lost connection in my laptop and I don't have skype in the work computer.
 
"A lot of smart people think Haskell is great for everything" is not a solid argument.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you can't always pick a better tool because there are other things involved, like further, later modifications by other people.
 
@rlemon We know :3
 
@dave this your desk? lol
 
9:40 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's make it - not a better tool.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum no, just there's less people familiar with FP and Haskell out there.
there's that one company that uses only OCaml
 
@rlemon... bitstrip is the new meme lol :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Seriously, shit is real. Put your code where your mouth is - either do it in Haskell since you honestly believe in the approach or admit that you don't think it's the right tool here.
 
but they know they are going to maintain their code inside.
@BenjaminGruenbaum okay, I'll do it in Haskell.
I won't sleep tonight
 
There's been a lot of "Shit is real" moments today
 
9:41 PM
@KirstyHarris bitstrip is stupid if you ask me :P but so is half of the internet if not more
:P
 
I think the reason Haskell isn't popular for this sort of thing is because it's bad at this. Not because it's hard to find people who want to work on Haskell. Everyone wants to work on Haskell. I'd love to work more with Haskell, a lot of other people I know would too.
 
aww its funny man! entertains me for a whole 10 secs
 
@BartekBanachewicz Godspeed! Good luck, brave choice. Hope I won't see you in a day when you'll be asking about JS libraries or WPF tutorials xD
 
user1125394
I don't a shit of the language itself, but what it accomplish
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm a JS pro already, I know how scoping works. ;)
 
9:43 PM
It really bothers me that my armrest is about a half inch higher than its sibling, yet I can't figure out how to adjust it.. #OfficeProbs
 
@BartekBanachewicz Really? What are the two ways to do block scoping in JS that'd work right now (before ES6, no firefox extensions)?
No googling :(
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum with and... eval?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum function() { var x; code; }(); aaaand
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's not block scoping. That's function scoping.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I should've asked what a block is for y'all
 
9:45 PM
@JanDvorak eval's not block scoping, with is though. You're missing one and also I know you know JavaScript. I asked @BartekBanachewicz
 
hrm.
I also cannot think of the second
 
@BartekBanachewicz `something { /*this is the duration of the variables declared here*/ }
 
@BartekBanachewicz a block is a piece of code denoted by a pair of curly braces
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum something = function() :P
@JanDvorak so is a function
w/e you know I was joking, I have no idea
 
@BartekBanachewicz No :P
 
9:46 PM
The second is try catch
 
omg
 
oh.
 
Do I get a cookie?
 
how did I not think of that
 
9:46 PM
Damn it
 
with({x:3}){
    // x is scoped here
}
try{throw 3}catch(e){
    // e is defined here
}
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it's a misuse, right?
 
with is disabled with use strict;, right?
 
Meh, looks like an interview question tbh
 
@BartekBanachewicz not sure. It does suck, though
 
9:48 PM
@JanDvorak Yes, I believe it is. It's useful sometimes - for example, with is use for poor man's scoping in Knockout, also try/catch is used to simulate block scoping in traceur for transpiling ES6 to ES5
@BartekBanachewicz Yes
 
@FlorianMargaine I brought this on myself
 
(function () { 'use strict'; with ({ x: 3}) { }})() SyntaxError: Strict mode code may not include a with statement
 
outy
 
!!> (function () { 'use strict'; with ({ x: 3}) { }})()
 
Hah, then good luck. I have nice questions if you want :p
 
9:49 PM
@JanDvorak bot's dead
 
so, is our bot mod-disabled or what?
 
Write a simple Promise object (simple = no chaining)
 
@FlorianMargaine that was in the lecture I watched today
 
9:50 PM
@FlorianMargaine not too hard. A bit of coding, though
 
@FlorianMargaine We'd never ask that :P
 
@JanDvorak ~20 lines... including blank lines
@BenjaminGruenbaum why?
 
@FlorianMargaine It's not something that measures competency imo. You can be a perfectly good developer but never considered that it's a form of block scoping.
 
Ah, you were answering something earlier. Sorry I'm on mobile :)
 
user1125394
@ben Firebase is cool for small example webapp, but if it was possible to install the server-side too, it would be better
 
9:53 PM
ATTENTION ROOM: The bot is Temporarily disabled until I can rebuild it to meet with the temporary greeting restrictions. We are also removing a single command. See: here for more details.... and stop asking about it
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@cↄ meteor?
@rlemon why are you disabling it?
You just want it to not welcome?
 
$ cabal install reactive-banana
I felt a tiny bit awkward that someone made me type this into the terminal
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum More drama
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh the irony, the GUI library that seems the most feasible is a GUI framework that uses the web browser as a display.
 
9:55 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That sounds easy :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum because I have to change the source to remove the welcome
and I'm a little bit lazy at the moment.
if you wanna send me a gist with the changes made, sure
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I could use wx too
 
I don't want to make a pull request just yet incase the decisions is to keep them
 
@BartekBanachewicz This is so much better than using the right tool for the job that has plenty of well tested libraries :P
@rlemon Why are we doing that?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I hope you knew how much wx does suck when writing this.
 
9:57 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum doing what?
 
@rlemon taking the bot down for disabling the thank you?
just keep the bot up, with the thank you, don't waste work until they made a decision.
When they do we can comply
 
as it stands: We have to disable the greeting messages. This is baked right into the listener. it needs to be changed in the source and cannot be disabled from the console.
We have been asked to disable it while they make a decision
and I for one am going to listen to the mods when they tell me that we have to do something.
otherwise they ban the account like they did on SU
 
@rlemon they banned your SU account :O?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum are you watching my progress ?
 
no they banned the bot account on SU
 
9:59 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar link ?
 
its public codepen :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum that is what that entire meta issue is about :P
come on man
 
@rlemon they suspended it because people in the room didn't like it.
 
if u find it horrible just say :P
 

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