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11:00 AM
That kinda defeats the purpose of SSL/TLS.
 
Ah
 
Now, the really cool thing about that diagram is that it's not a theoretical thing, it is how the entire email business currently works ...
That's great.
 
Really?
 
How do we even know that?
We don't know if they're using secure connections internally, do we?
 
11:03 AM
 
pastiebin.com/51efb46b43fee is the drawing understandable?
 
@Zirak Are those boobs with a flag pinned on top of one?
 
@DevYah Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@OctavianDamiean No...that's...that's a downhill road, with a bridge
I'll make the support poles...
 
11:06 AM
Now it looks like mushroom kingdom...
Oh pastiebin, you're so horrid
"OH Noses!!! your not human sorry or your just stupid"
Because I forgot to fill the "2 + 2 = ?". Which I already filled upon submission. And they reverted my edits...
 
It did look like a downhill road, with a bridge (with a flag)
 
...but now?
 
How many have you read?
http://www.listchallenges.com/npr-top-100-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books?ref=share
 
@Zirak Mushroom kingdom now
 
Damn it, and yes!!
 
11:14 AM
@Zirak Like some weird boobs with a pole on top.
 
@monners 20 of them (I may have forgotten some). But this list is pretty heteroclit motley.
 
Have you read Starship Troopers?
Great fuckin' book
 
@monners I don't like fantasy.
 
@esrange Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@OctavianDamiean Nor I, but the hard sci-fi in that list is pretty decent
 
11:16 AM
@monners The movie was great, I didn't read the book. There are many books in this list that were used to make good movies but that I don't want to read.
 
@dystroy The book is really REALLY good. Nothing like the movie.
 
@dystroy It's a shame because generally the books are by far better than the movies.
 
Damn... I hadn't recognized some because they're titled in English in that list.
 
'Contact' was a shit book. The movie was much better
 
Take The Time Machine for example.
The book is a lot better than the movie (the 2006 remake that is).
 
11:19 AM
@OctavianDamiean Yes, but I hadn't seen the movie for this one, only read the book. I've read most classics here, not the modern fantasy ones.
 
I'm still working through HeinLein's work. He's very hit 'n miss
 
@FlorianMargaine lol
 
I should get Dune.
 
How is the Silmarillion among 100 best SF books ? That's just for madmen. I've read it but for my defense I'll say I didn't enjoy it.
23
 
How isn't Terminal Man or The Amdomeda Strain on that list?
 
11:23 AM
And almost 0 in the pure fantasy part of this list
@monners I never even heard of those books you mention
Don't tell me they're great, I got that's your opinion
 
@dystroy Crichton's finest
Wait, you've never heard of The Andromeda Strain???
 
no
 
you're missing out
 
In fact I've read it. But I hadn't recognized the title
Maybe I've read it in French, I don't remember.
 
Glad to see that Rendezvous With Rama is on that list
 
11:27 AM
looks good for now ?
 
I'm also disappointed that From the Earth to the Moon is missing on that list.
 
@OctavianDamiean I too
But there are 2 other Jules Vernes, even if it's not easy to find them with their English titles
 
@Darkyen ..enterprises or celebrities? lulwut?
 
:P
simple enough if u have over 400k followeres u pay
 
You need to fix some grammar in that, but it looks okay
 
11:28 AM
rest stay happy :->
 
Hahaha
 
@Darkyen a few typos, and it looks verbose.
"you,We donot"
 
Does look verbose
 
ew, cyan
 
i want it to be verbose :-> , simply it makes user feels we tell him everything even they tldr;
 
11:29 AM
"We donot sell your data to enterprises" => only to states and agencies ?
 
You're not writing your privacy policies in crayon, are you?
 
@Zirak What do you have against cyan?
@dystroy Hahaha
@Zirak Shhhhh
 
its ubuntu font... not crayon
 
@Amaan Nothing really wrong, if it's used for some subtle background colouring...but for text?
 
fuck windows asshole font-rendering :P
 
11:30 AM
@Darkyen Yeah, but the colour makes it look like it's written in crayon
 
:-(
 
!!tell Darkyen wiki crayon
 
okay blacking it
 
Hahaha, "blacking"
I never knew blacking was a legit term before
!!define blacking
 
11:31 AM
@Amaan blacking Present participle of black.
 
@Zirak better for your eyes now ?
 
You don't like contrast, right ?
 
The penultimate sentence needs to be fixed. There are typos.
 
not too much
 
Better
Your sentences don't need double-spacing.
 
11:33 AM
Mozzilla
 
And it's a little too big, according to me
The font could go down a bit
 
...and this is what drives me insane most of all: "believe strongly" => "strongly believe"
 
Too much space between paragraphs, and to less dots at ends of sentences
 
Yea, and Mozilla instead of Mozzilla.
 
crap... i guess i need sleep again -_-
 
11:34 AM
or Mozzarella, that would be good too
 
"a free and open web"
 
@Darkyen It's 5pm o.O
 
slept at 4am woke up at 8 working since
 
"a right, not a premium feature" (the comma is important) or "a right and not a premium feature"
"and hence" is perplexing
 
"enterprises or celebrities" is weird
'do not'
 
11:35 AM
"a right, not a premium feature. Hence, our business model..."
 
Anyone wants to see the horrible HTML I'm working with?
(Only if you feel like WTF)
 
Not very much, thank you.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sure
 
I wouldn't say premium feature, I'd probably say a privilege.
 
11:36 AM
Yeah
 
@Darkyen take a look at the html.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum first thing i saw <br /> ?
 
It's not my code :P
Did you notice the <center>s everywhere :P?
 
whoever wrote it is fan of <br />
nod
 
No one is a fan of <br />s
 
11:38 AM
Holy crap that's fucking terrible
 
@Zirak Why did you look?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That script is a bit weird, it detects that I'm from Austria but keeps the currency to US Dollars.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That's more code for a form what I need for a full featured game... That's terrible... And I'm sure it's generated
 
Noticed the jQuery 1.2 yet?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum good luck mate :D
 
11:39 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum How can I not!?
 
@dystroy Lol, look at the body onload? That's me, the only hook I got :P
 
!!should i make the site a git repo so all can contribute or be a bitch and use chat
 
@Darkyen That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
 
salute to senior web developers
 
@OctavianDamiean Yep :)
 
11:39 AM
@Darkyen be a bitch and use chat
 
lol
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I was surprised the author knew about querySelector...
 
@dystroy I wrote the body onload bit, that's the only bit that's me, and the css in the style above it.
 
they're using 'Y' and 'N' instead of booleans?
 
11:41 AM
It's horrible horrible code :)
 
@OctavianDamiean What does moserbaer mean?
 
@Amaan Sounds like a name.
 
They're watching us
<input type=hidden name="originalReferrer" value="http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/17/javascript">
 
Baer could stand for Bär which means bear.
 
Probably just a name, then
 
11:43 AM
Jesus kegstanding Christ, that's some monster.
 
beautiful
})}}}}catch(d){try{console.log(d)}catch(b){}}}catch(f){try{console.log(f)}catch(b){}}}
Tssss
} catch(outerException) {     try { console.log(outerException); } catch(innerException) { /* no firebug */ } }
 
Now I feel very stupid. Running the program gave me an immediate stack overflow.
public void Stop () {
    this.Stop();
}
...forgot to invoke something else
 
!!s/public void/function/
 
@dystroy That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
@dystroy function Stop () {
this.Stop();
} [\(source\)](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/10809142#10809142)
 
damn, that's a ugly formatting
 
11:47 AM
Yes, it really really is.
 
@dystroy :(
They have lots of nested scripts in case you were wondering
 
Are you allowed to clean that mess ?
 
58
Q: Find out who's going to buy the croissants

Florian MargaineAt our company, we have a rule: each one of us has to buy the croissants once in a while for everybody. Now we'd like to be a little more regular about this. And last friday, both of us bought the croissants, and some almost went to the bin because there were too many. Hopefully, I sacrificed ...

@FlorianMargaine awesome ...lol
voting to reopen xD
 
o/
 
11:54 AM
saws your arms off
 
@Zirak both ON :P
 
@NullPoiиteя takes a time machine, travels back to the date of your birth, snatches you from the deliverer's arms, rips your arms off, runs away laughing maniacally
 
@Zirak why i will do this ? doestnt it sounds foolish :P
 
kills self over creative disputes
 
user1125394
oops wait
 
12:04 PM
:-\
 
var data = seriesdata[r[1]];
if (!data) {
    data = seriesdata[r[1]] = [];
}
data.push(value);
 
user1125394
yes why not
 
Did the math: 77 games on Steam worth $1052.39 - only paid $294.75 in total. #nice @steam_games
 
@rlemon I know, I saw
 
WHY DON'T YOU THINK OF THOSE WHO DIDN'T SEE IT, DICK?
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12:07 PM
That's a nice marketing, to persuade people they were smart spending 294$ for some games, most of them they won't even play
 
ALWAYS SO EGOCENTRIC. PSSHT.
 
@dystroy i've played over half
 
0
Q: How to call custom jQuery functions via the use of a WordPress filter hook

thegonzobeatSo I have some jQuery functions that adjust my column layout on window load and window resize. They are inside a file called bp-columns.js that looks like this: jQuery(window).load(function () { columnWidth(); columnHeight(); }); jQuery(window).resize( function () { columnWidth(); ...

 
and 25 games were purchased recently so I haven't really had time to play them all yet
 
12:08 PM
I thought that was 77 games in the recent furious sales only. That's better if that's on a "lifetime"
 
haha yea
don't look at loktars account
 
Hahaha
 
Announcement : I need ideas and / or complete levels for SpaceBullet
 
@Amaan ooo
 
@rlemon ooo!
 
user1125394
12:10 PM
!!> [12,2,2,3].map(function () { return 0; })
 
@cx [0,0,0,0]
 
@cx That's really smart.
 
user1125394
I know
 
@Amaan goto your account profile
 
And?
Check how much you've spent?
 
12:12 PM
go to this page
click on store transactions
 
Okay
 
for games you've purchased for yourself, click "see all"
so it expands
then run this
var total = 0;
jQuery('.transactions:first').add('.transactions:first + .hidden_transactions').find('.transactionRowPrice').each(function() {
    total += parseFloat(this.textContent.replace(/\$/g,''));
})
console.log('$' + Math.round(total*100)/100);
 
This one is fun :
Array.apply(0,Array(5)).join('0').split('').map(parseInt)
 
~$300 on myself
~$120 on others
 
12:15 PM
(it would work correctly with parseFloat)
 
@dystroy wat
Array.apply(0,Array(5)).join('0').split('').map(parseInt)
[0, NaN, 0, 0]
Array.apply(0,Array(5)).join('0').split('').map(parseFloat)
[0, 0, 0, 0]
I don't even want to try
 
yes, because parsefloat doesn't take the index as radix
 
so?
I still don't get it
 
parseInt and parseFloat and the rest of the dangling functions are stupid..
Like isNaN and stuff
 
!!> [parseInt(0, 0), parseInt(0, 1)]
 
12:22 PM
@Zirak [0,"NaN"]
 
@FlorianMargaine What don't you get ?
 
Not much about it
 
Why the heck do we have isNaN just lying around? What's wrong with Number.isNaN?
 
@rlemon NaN
Did you not account for Free stuff?
 
Int.parse Number.parse etc.
 
12:23 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum the worst thing with those functions might be the automatic ToNumber
like isNaN("NaN")
 
 
@dystroy oooh I get it, map gives the index as second parameter
 
@rlemon Do you not have something like that? ^
Oh, wait, that must be the Enhanced Steam extension
 
3
A: Dealing with "Find out who's going to buy the croissants"

ben is uǝq backwardsI agree with casperOne; it's explicitly on-topic: What topics can I ask about here? Stack Overflow is for professional and enthusiast programmers, people who write code because they love it. We feel the best Stack Overflow questions have a bit of source code in them, but if your ques...

 
@Amaan yea I don't have that
 
12:24 PM
@FlorianMargaine es5.github.io/#x15.1.2.2 see step 8 and 9
 
I had to use .... jQuery ... :(
 
yea, but I already wrote the script
WHERE WERE YOU EARLIER
 
Yeah, but it has other uses too
 
@Zirak yeah I didn't get why map gave the second parameter to parseInt
quite stupid if you ask me now.
 
12:26 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I like just using Number to parse things as numbers.
arr.map(Number) feels nice
 
@Zirak Feels pythonic.
 
0
Q: Clearing up the `hidden classes` concept of V8

PiusI've read some articles about V8's hidden classes. However, I still have a few questions in my head: If, let's say, there are two objects: var a = { } a.x = 5 a.y = 6 var b = { } b.y = 7 b.x = 8 Do they end up with the same hidden class or separate just because one went 0 + x + y and the oth...

 
@Amaan Have you met "The White Stripes" yet?
 
Oh, yeah
 
I remembered them yesterday. The drummer is pretty exceptional.
You may now carry on with whatever you were doing.
 
12:36 PM
so far..
now i am going to bed, ping me what u think , ps i know about the overflow..
 
@rlemon can I ask you about something, I am not too sure what to do next.
 
@Darkyen Wow
That looks good
 
:-)
 
You didn't fix the typo
Nor the punctuation
 
type me exactly :-)
 
12:38 PM
@mikedidthis my suggestion is buy a boat
 
@rlemon today is perfect boat buying weather.
 
@Amaan see the geek things :->
 
thats what i am doing init :-) , other then 40% of design.. the page is mine so far .. my designer will fill those blank screens
 
@rlemon I will take two.
 
12:40 PM
@Darkyen That's interesting, but I really have no clue what this app is for
 
:-> let that be a surprise :D hehe
!!s/surprise/secret/
 
@Darkyen That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
@Darkyen :-> let that be a secret :D hehe (source)
 
@Darkyen the site isn't responsive
it is, but it isn't working right
 
@rlemon its not supposed to be responsive yet
 
@mikedidthis Going to buy a boat?
 
12:41 PM
to make ti responsive i will have to make the nav change
and then it will work fine but i cant seem to think a design for it
also sending this to mobile is stupdity( Even if not displayed ).. so i need to figure that too
 
@OctavianDamiean Apparently. Original I came with javascript questions, but now I am leaving with a boat. :D
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Cool.
Yea, that's the JavaScript chat room.
 
@OctavianDamiean I wouldn't change it.
 
@RyanKinal \o
 
We should totally earn money with that.
 
12:43 PM
hehe
 
Come in here with JS questions, leave with boats, houses, cars 'n all that.
 
@mikedidthis what is your question
 
@OctavianDamiean you leave with LIFE.
@rlemon jsbin.com/uceguj/7/edit I can detect an element in view, but I can't work out how to make it useful.
 
@mikedidthis Oh that's easy. I have an Audi R8, 20% off just because, well we're friends 'n stuff.
 
12:45 PM
@mikedidthis so your question is...
 
@Amaan wow, the new Adept - record is absolutely mindblowing
 
lol
 
@GNi33 Woohoo!
 
@rlemon how would you make this useful? Would you make it return true / false, fire a function etc?
 
so now I have 2 swedish bands I love :D
 
12:46 PM
@mikedidthis So, you have some working code, but you don't know what to do with it?
 
@mikedidthis Make it useful in what way?
Ah, he wants to know what his function should do. I'd return true / false
 
I'd return the set of "in view" elements.
Or null
 
But his function takes the element to check as a parameter
 
Not "the element"... "some elements"
 
@mikedidthis there, it's useful jsbin.com/ubuwit/1/edit
 
12:48 PM
Yeah
 
uh, no, it isn't
my bad.
 
@GNi33 Oh totally forgot to tell you, I'll probably be at the Salzburgring on 6th September for a race car practice. We should meet on a beer (for you) and some other drink (non-alcoholic) for me. :)
 
awesome! let me check the calender
 
posted on July 24, 2013

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Sorry, I probably made a hash of explaining myself :(
 
12:50 PM
@GNi33 That'll be a Friday.
 
sounds good
race car practice sounds pretty fucking awesome by the way :D
 
Yea, I'm starting to invest in that area. I'm planing to participate in the 24h of Nürburgring in about two or three years from now.
The more practice and experience I get the better.
I should probably visit Fuschl too.
 
@Loktar do you know if globalAlpha is the best way to 'fade out' a drawing?
seems like it would be slow to apply a global shift each draw
 
That or setting the colour using RGBA
 
@GNi33 that event on 6th September is a pay ride by the way, so if you're interested you can join me there.
 
12:56 PM
@Amaan yea i'm using drawImage
context.globalAlpha = this.life;
context.drawImage(this.img, this.x, this.y);
 
I've always used globalAlpha myself, but I don't really know how it'd be in terms of performance
 
@OctavianDamiean haha, I'd probably total that car :D
 
@Feeds Why does SMBC always get here as the analytics code?
 
Nah, you'll get an instructor 'n all that, also there's the gravel banks. :)
 
what kind of cars are available there?
 
12:59 PM
There's going to be two, both race modified cars. An Alfa Romeo 145 or 146 (I can't remember any more to be honest) and a BMW 120d.
 

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