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user11867329
18:00
Hey man if $100 would be for just the right amount for the amount of work, I could pay $150 and take... say... a month to do it?
@Cereal thank you very much
user11867329
I'll ask my colleague, a quick 75 each shouldn't matter. Seems fair. Also, I still stand firm about the whole "if it gets sold, I'll come back around"
@rlemon understood, thank you.
user11867329
I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't benefit from a notification system on their auction items. They are the auctioneers.
user11867329
Notifs = Higher selling price (I have refference studies 1/2/3/etc...)
user11867329
18:03
You know what I mean?
I'm not interested
user11867329
Fair enough.
user11867329
even if I legal document or wtv?
user11867329
like "me" won't bamboozle "him"
No means no
18:05
#define no yes
fite me
user11867329
^
!!kick rlemon
@Trasiva That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: lick
Well now I have questions Cap.
user11867329
lol
user11867329
18:06
d
!!lick Trasiva
@rlemon Mmmmmmm @Trasiva tastes just like schinkenspeck!
!!history lick
@Trasiva That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
Ugh, not that curious
No
No
No
No
That's literally not the purpose of SO
user11867329
18:08
Yeah Trasiva, I understood you didn't want to.
Go to Fiverr or something
user11867329
Fair point.
If we wanted solicitation here, you'd better be in high heels and a tube top.
user11867329
Although it's mostly about the code.
user11867329
I'm decent with coding, just no experience with JS, been living in a cave.
18:09
Surely there has to be something in the ToS/Rules against trying to solicit paid/contract work in SO chat rooms.
Everyone here furiously declining 150$
That screams Bad Idea so loud that it could be an Animaniacs segment.
user11867329
No, it actually says if you request help, dont be a rat and give money
user11867329
exactly
Are you ok?
user11867329
18:10
not really but who are you?
My name is literally by my profile picture.
Keep up.
Someone who's been here a lot longer than some rando begging people to fix the code they're trying to sell.
user11867329
I'm fine, Michael, Thank you for asking.
You guys are being so unwelcoming
I'm not convinced.
user11867329
18:11
Ok 1. I'm using it primarly as stated above. 2. I offer legal bindings over the potential sale.
user11867329
I'm not selling a used car
user11867329
I'm asking help at the best publicly available pit of JS coders.
That's debatable
user11867329
thank you.
user11867329
now lemme drink water 'for I psychosis
18:12
Why can't randos be normal?
What is normal
Those of us with JS experience aren't likely to help in this particular case. Go to upwork or fiverr for that.
Is there a Jquery online syntax checker to correct like this error missing } after property
Most online fiddle services come with one built in
However, you could also just run it and read the error messages
18:40
Wow exciting stuff this morning
@ndugger yeah it is
I like free money, what was that guy trying to do
give me the tl;dr
19:07
@forresthopkinsa sell a used car or some such
sounds right
2 hours ago, by OTLT-LCar
Script that fetches .card-title element of a website (i assume you do, speak to a lot of people) and outputs "Lot#" to ids.json

Then checks the website again and compares to ids.json.

If new element, it triggers js function.

For some reason, without any identifiable triggers, it stopped working and now adds a new line and declares new items even if it's the exact same lot#
user11867329
Thank you.

I know you're worth at least a grand to make it, but I can't afford it at the moment. So I offer what I can and will try as hard as possible to sell it for you (it's not beneficial for us to do so in the long run).
srsly go to fiverr
we don't appreciate that level of persistence after being told "no" multiple times
user11867329
Acknowledged.
user11867329
19:25
On a more serious note, which other site would be more appropriate than Fiverr?

Won't work with a generic webdev...
I don't know why you think we're any better than generic webdevs
at this rate, I'll have to charge you for explaining how the community works, so you can move on and find an appropriate dev
Anyone could write you a screenscraper that does what you want for like $20 on fiverr
It's not a difficult task
user11867329
I feel as I have offered a very fair offer. If you want to charge me as we speak, fine, depending on the cost.
user11867329
@ndugger I appreciate your input.
great, we've told you to go to fiverr with that offer
19:29
@OTLT-LCar Why do you want to pay someone instead of learning yourself?
we're not declining because it's an unfair offer, but because this is an inappropriate channel
user11867329
I tried, then now I'm asking what other site.
@OTLT-LCar fiverr, wework
Yeah, exactly what towc said
ask on reddit
Anyone know of a site where people list their personal projects and you can join their "team"? Just looking to work on something useful in my free time
(not paid)
user11867329
i want to learn myself, but do you know how long and how small the chances are of me sitting here for a week to extra focus with you guys not getting bored or uncooperative with me?
You're like 90% of the way there. Not sure why you think it would take a week
If you show effort, no one will get bored and uncooperative with you.
@OTLT-LCar 100% we'll get bored. You wouldn't learn by us teaching you the basics
user11867329
19:31
Ok shoot now that I got the attention, let's break down the script, line per line
user11867329
with Q&A line by line
@OTLT-LCar that's how you get banned from SO
user11867329
$5 an hour for cooperators
user11867329
hows that for a spark deal
19:32
Jesus christ.
user11867329
man, alright.
@OTLT-LCar We do not accept pay. If you don't stop you will be put on a timeout in the corner.
The amount of time you've spent trying to circumvent numerous comments saying 'Stop efforts to pay.', you could've most certainly put together your script in that time.
user11867329
>Do not be a Help Vampire... Seriously, we all have to learn this shit and you should too! Don't expect us to write your code for you unless you are willing to shell out a bit of dough
@OTLT-LCar If you have specific questions ask, but don't expect us to write it for you.
user11867329
19:33
@Michael I disagree.
@OTLT-LCar If you want to hire us you may be able to by going through the website or contact info in our profile, but not in the actual chat.
Shelling out dough to people willing to accept money, in an environment fostered for such activity. To which, this chatroom is not.
user11867329
Fair point, I'll move on.
ok look @OTLT-LCar I'll do it for $500 to go to JBi's charity of choice
no less
user11867329
JB what's the charity tho
user11867329
19:35
I'll ask my partner about $500
hmmm
does that matter to you?
we'll want a receipt
no
user11867329
Of course not.
^ thats a good one. They help a lot of people.
user11867329
We'll all enjoy watching the money go away... but yeah what charity?
19:36
just give me $1000
this is not a negotiation. I'm trying to help you because you look desperate and clueless
I won't write you any code, just give me money
2
user11867329
Ok, I want to openly and publicly state that a very good friend of mine did "door to door" work for medecins sans frontieres and it's a pure scam.
hi @Zoe
welcome to dramaland
user11867329
ndugg, now I got your attention chatroom me?
19:37
you come at a great time
@OTLT-LCar what?
Zoe
Zoe
@towc Indeed - there's flags
oh, which messages?
user11867329
We'll use escrow if need be.
19:37
I have the same offer as @ndugger.
user11867329
To the charity though
ok, maybe best thing to do is to just stop this
In fact, I will pay you back the $1,000 if you learn how do to it on your own.
user11867329
on escrow? sure.
user11867329
19:38
give me 7 days
Yes, this whole mess does need to stop.
HAMMERTIME!
user11867329
if I can't solve one of your project.
@OTLT-LCar please just use another site. You've caused enough commotion here. I'm sorry if we've seemed disrespectful, that was not our intention
feel free to contact JB in a private conversation, if he allows you to
user11867329
@KevinB ... w-what do you think?
19:40
i think your treading on thin ice
s/I think//
Tootsie rolls are really good
have a cat
19:41
It's not against the rules to offer or accept offers of paid work in SO chat, as far as I know.
Zoe
Zoe
That ^
But the people of JS chat have seemed to make that a rule here
user11867329
I do have weak ankles, I'll go back to wtv.
we don't rule it out, but if you've asked like 10 times it's spam
I also have never once seen anyone bite from an offer like that
user11867329
I've repeated out of requests.
19:44
so it's discouraged, but not against the rules.
I marked the flag invalid. but yea. don't spam the office please. someone is bothered by it
(I'm just referring to the flags)
Zoe
Zoe
I think the chat definition of spam is different. No idea though
user11867329
You also said that the first time. Out of respect I'm pulling out. But I maintain it's a good offer only a very busy person would refuse.
OPs are free to kick people from their rooms and set more restrictive rules as they see fit
@OTLT-LCar thank you
19:46
@OTLT-LCar it doesn't matter why or if people refuse the offer. of if the offer is fair. it's not against the rules to ask for paid help. whoever flagged you should not have done so on that reasoning. however I have seen you ask a few hours ago, so I'm just assuming it was taken as spam
if that is not the case (cough cough flagger) please don't flag those
it's noise
Can RO's/Mods see who the flagger is or no? Seems like not, but just want to confirm.
no. Mods yes
I have a good idea based on teh conversation
so we'll leave it there.
but no, RO's can no longer see who flagged what
user11867329
const fetch = require('node-fetch');
const fs = require('fs');
const { JSDOM } = require('jsdom');

What's your takes on jsdom, what's fs, what's node fetch?
google is your best friend
Zoe
Zoe
19:48
@JBis Mods can, but they can't reveal it to us mere mortals
they cannot see after the flag has been actioned on
only db access can in that case
Zoe
Zoe
or they just don't. iDunno which
while flags are still live, they can
Zoe
Zoe
^
but only while they are live
in other news
I'm making a new API
for people who make things that need random words
19:50
What was the source dict for that list?
dictionary.com
and not complete
I have a very strict rule for which words i index'd
Ah, is it still at 100k~ entries?
yea, I went and put together a new hot end for the 3d printer
gonna scrape more tonight
and I need to get the size argument working
so you can specify min and max word lengths
and probably fix that output so it's not an array of objects
that's pretty wasteful
@OTLT-LCar fetch is for fetch your own answers
@rlemon Are expletives included?
user11867329
>No pay >Fetch your answers

Boy you sure must've had it rough.
19:54
no, we did our own research
literally the first result @OTLT-LCar
1 message moved to Trash
Sorry
@JBis only if tehy are in the source data. If it becomes an issue I might try to run some sort of search and flag them as such
eventually I wanna get more languages too
@JBis no worries. just avoid antagonising if we can help it.
user11867329
Ok I got a fair question:

Where would I put a line of code (and what would be leads on that line) that would filter out the "null"s that are outputed/saved in ids.json?
Zoe
Zoe
20:00
Just before you save it?
!!afk 👪 🍺 💻 🛏
if your json looks like

['one',
'two',
null,
'three']

then when you import it into your js it'll be an array with four elements
!!> const arr = [1, 2, null, 3]; console.log('First array: ', arr); const secondArr = arr.filter(elem => !!elem); console.log('Second array: ', secondArr);
@forresthopkinsa "undefined" Logged: "First array: ",[1,2,null,3],"Second array: ",[1,2,null,3]
@forresthopkinsa "undefined" Logged: "First array: ",[1,2,null,3],"Second array: ",[1,2,3]
!!> !!0
@rlemon false
20:13
Careful with testing for boolean
It's pi time
@forresthopkinsa I always prefer to see people use the Boolean constructor vs !!, but that's just preference. I feel the same way about using the Number constructor instead of prepending a + to the value too
@ndugger It seems that a lot of people are okay with using one ! to convert another type to boolean, e.g. if (!nullableObj) ..., which is probably why I normally feel comfortable with the double-bang
@rlemon job security
user11867329
20:31
First half of the line is nulls, then it's the numbers. I think it might be possible the script catches a "#" character in front of the numbers and catches this ... bug?
user11867329
@forresthopkinsa
give me an example json file you're trying to parse
@forresthopkinsa trust me, you do not want to go down this road
he'll give me a thousand dollars if I fix his json parsing code
sgtm
His problem happens before he ends up with nulls in his JSON. The way he's processing the urls to get the ids is fundamentally broken, and I've already offered like 3 solutions
He's ending up with NaN values that serialize into null
20:41
oh. good
write a regex to process it
That was one solution. I even wrote the regex for him
Another was to use node's url module to parse it and get the pathname, which includes the id
wow I was being facetious, why does this person still need help
No idea, which is why I warn you against going down this path with him
He'll just suck you in
I'll rewrite his program from scratch for a hundred grand
It's like 50 lines of poorly formatted code with an express endpoint
20:43
make it two hundred grand
omg, I come back 40 min later and we are still talking about this
and all of his fs actions are sync, even though he's serving it up over a web server. I doubt he realizes he's blocking his entire app
@rlemon Sounds good! Seems like a helpful API.
@OTLT-LCar Send me a gist, of your script. Not another site. Gist.
user11867329
@ndugger i saved everything you sent me but I wanted to understand it before posting about it.
user11867329
user11867329
1s...
> Not another site. Gist.
that's a gist if I've ever seen one
> your script
I give you a 0%
20:46
I think he's actually responding to my earlier request
Please just let this die
although that was an entertaining series of events
vote to renaming this room to OTLT's Support Room
aye
it's unanimous. @CapricaSix get on it
user11867329
Aw come on man, you already forgot the money to do something already fixed by ndugg
user11867329
sigh, if it's js give it an extension of .js so Github makes it pretty.
user11867329
20:51
now I know.
user11867329
refresh
user11867329
or should I resend?
Ok great
Now in one or two sentences, describe what you are trying to do.
Not the issue, but the end goal.
OOF
time to go home
\o
user11867329
20:54
trigger a js function when a new product is added to specific webpages.
user11867329
p.s. needs to be async so it's real time
user11867329
version 1 of script was php parallel but not as good.
ok, gimme 5 min
user11867329
join the chat room you made for me and Chris (or just send me your btc address there... or website wtv)
21:25
@OTLT-LCar Ok. I finished the script.
It's not best practices but I sacrificed that for simplicity. Simply put what ever you want in the async onItemsAdd function which passes an array with the new items.
@OTLT-LCar Contact me through joshbrown.info/#contact if you want it.
Please do not post any more about this in this room. If you have specific questions you can ask, but otherwise don't.
user11867329
Hmm... sent. I'm waiting on your reply. We can also chat through a private chatroom. (if need be)
Does anyone have suggestions for a way to explain the basics of programming and logic to someone very new to it? I have tried to relate it to math (f(x) = x + 2 where f is the function name, x is a variable argument, x + 2 is the return value) and then expanding on to >,<, <=`, etc.
@OTLT-LCar I received "h". Is that all you typed or is there an issue with my site?
user11867329
for me or someone else, because I understand that math fairly well, also I don't understand how +2 would be logic for a return value
user11867329
That's what I sent.
Ok thank you.
user11867329
21:40
Writing the reply?
Hello
o/
How's your chat website doing?
chat website.......
I have a website but it's not a chat website, lol
talking about chat though do you still have the url for caprica six?
user11867329
@JBis What am I waiting on?
21:47
@StephanS Maybe I am confusing you with someone
lol it's cool, some mornings I wake up and forget who I am.
@OTLT-LCar sent
user11867329
Got @JBis @ $500.

If anyone wants to hit a little less, here's you chance! lol
@OTLT-LCar I told you not to talk about it again
One more time and it goes to $600
22:10
1
Q: How do I print console.log on the front-end side with node.js and express

Simon BretonI'm learning node.js and express for a side-project. How can I print console.log(); on the client-side? I'm working on a Hello project and I have the following code: app.get('/', (req, res) => { res.send('Hello from App Engine!'); }); Why do console.log() doesn't print in the client-side...

@KevinB I love it
> What is the client-side exactly?
I posted an answer, tried to help
Unbelievable, I finally offer what the guy wanted and he now doesn't respond grrr
 
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user11867329
23:42
@forresthopkinsa did you have any idea about the json?
@OTLT-LCar hey sorry I've been working so I've only been popping in and out of here. Leaving work shortly but I might get a chance to take a look in a few hours. Put a website or email or something on your SO profile and if anyone wants to freelance for you they'll have a way to contact you
I'll think about it
user11867329
Why thank you. [email protected]
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I
user11867329
I still need to ask him, he's got the dough.
wrong chat
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