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19:00
`Mouse Pads will allowing for consistent tracking with big, sweeping motions and protect the finish of your desk, keeping it from wearing out over your usual mousing spot
` got to love the descriptions
no, it's well-known fact. They install equipment at all major fiberoptic routes.
It's a mouse pad
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Hah
So they install equipment
@KevinB No, there is evidence and the government has admitted much of this stuff in the end.
19:00
prove that it's used for what you say it is
user1596138
I have a black glass desk and it does the craziest things
prove that it's not simply a security measure
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Like sometimes I'll move the mouse up and it goes right
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@Rick Fuckin duh. I sure hope they do?
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19:02
In the way that you're saying anyway. They damn well better have that fiber tapped!
You're just falling for people calling speculation fact
A backdoor is malware that can be used by anyone
@KevinB look up Room 641A
user1596138
Like it or not we will always have war. Gov. is supposed to prepare for that.
^
You're assuming il-intent
user1596138
19:03
It might annoy you that they see your nudes. I'm glad they have these capabilities tho
Like I said, I don't care about that stuff. If they feel that it is good to tap the backbone, then ok
We can have a civil political discussion on that
BUT if they tamper directly with my devices how do I know they are the government? They are just malware. To me they are criminals and I have to treat it that way, correct?
no
That is simply how you choose
You can go through life assuming people are out to get you if you like
YES or you might mistakenly think a backdoor installed by Russia is your own governments?
@LuckyKleinschmidt these capabilities are not for external threats.
prove it
19:05
@KevinB So you're saying that I should trust malware on my device because it was probably made by the government?
no, you should never trust malware
that sounds like utter bs
but this isn't malware
All threats are internal
user1596138
@Rick They're for both. Obviously
19:05
@KevinB It's malware if it allows remote access.
user1596138
I feel like we really need @007 in this discussion
It's a modem
your cable company has remote access to it
user1596138
Maybe @Rick is 007
@LuckyKleinschmidt no they are not. External threats are always never real. Internal threats are far more serious.
if it does something that I don't want it to do and gives access to a device I own, it's malware and it is my job to remove it. I'm saying the broader context of this activity, not where a warrant is presented to the owner of the device
19:06
You simply have a false definition of malware
user1596138
Idk why people get surprised when he spouts conspiracy theories or absurdity. He did name his profile after Rick and Morty baha
@KevinB no my modem
I own my own
as do i
they can still access it
user1596138
@Rick This message is incoherent.
You can literally restart your modem from your smartphone from anywhere in the world
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19:07
> always never
@KevinB Malware is malware regardless of who owns it. You're wrong if you don't agree with that.
@LuckyKleinschmidt this borders on the philosophical, not the stated intent.
user1596138
I don't get a modem. I have a live ethernet that comes from a post to my house
user1596138
I can plug straight into the wire.
I can use deductive reasoning to prove my point.
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19:08
And if I want to restart the modem I have to call my IPS
user1596138
@Rick I didn't understand even the basic premise of your message because it was nonsensical. I.e. incoherent. You are just moving forward... I don't know what your point is.
user1596138
2 mins ago, by Rick
@LuckyKleinschmidt no they are not. External threats are always never real. Internal threats are far more serious.
user1596138
What does it mean
@LuckyKleinschmidt I wasn't even really talking about "my" modem/router. I was talking about anything after my firewall. If there is software installed on it that breaks into stuff in a way I'm unaware of, that is bad security regardless of who is breaking in
you're obviously aware of it
so why are you upset?
19:10
@KevinB My issue is that if they actively do it then I'm unaware of it in the literal sense. I am aware it can be done doesn't mean I'm aware of the particular vulnerability.
unplug it
then they can't do it
user1596138
I bet they can
user1596138
They'll just come to your house and plug it in.
@LuckyKleinschmidt my point is surveillance is not to guard against external threats. They are to guard against internal threats. That's my point.
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@Rick It's both.
19:11
@KevinB I'm not upset per se, I just wonder how they don't see that it is a civil liability. They aren't above the law. If the NSA broke into my house without identifying themselves, for instance, they'd be covered under that state's laws for breaking and entering.
I'd much rather such a backdoor exist if it means they can fight back against a foreign threat.
@DavidKamer untrue
a cop just got off killing a man in his own home
You say it's both, but it's not.
@KevinB the can't do it as is, well, unless you have Mac or Windows. I think they're trying to do it to Linux tho
she thought it was her home. entered, shot the guy
19:12
@rlemon in Indiana a man just got off for killing a cop in his own home because the cop didn't identify himself correctly
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@DavidKamer There are many instances of agencies being above the law
@DavidKamer great, precedence for both. means the point that they're subject to the laws of the state means nothing
@LuckyKleinschmidt "agencies" isn't specific enough.
user1596138
Sometimes there simply is no avenue to try an entity for a crime
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Even if it's illegal. SOmeone has to have the authority to charge the entity
19:13
@rlemon every federal officer is subject to the laws of the state they are in. The only time they have an jurisdiction is when the activity crosses state lines.
@rlemon you're canadian, correct?
you missed my point.
but okay
carry on
@LuckyKleinschmidt China and Russia don't give a shit what you do as an American. Just like America does not give a shit what Chines and Russians do.
you're wrong, of course
user1596138
@Rick That has absolutely nothing to do with your point.
user1596138
Also you're wrong.
19:14
0
Q: After targeting a div on another page, how do I style it on the parent page?

SkullomaniaI have a page on which I called a div from another page like so: $('.target-div').load('http://www.mywebsite.com/portfolio.php #portfolio-sports'); #portfoliosports is a div container that contains several divs with the class .runner that I would like to alternate the background color of. How ...

user1596138
Ever heard of the U2?
user1596138
Ya know, spy plane
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> America does not give a shit what Chines and Russians do.
user1596138
I;m out of this I have hot pockets to eat
I can get the data, styling the nested divs within is a whole different beast, any suggestions?
19:15
@rlemon No I think I understand. They can do things that I can't, but that doesn't mean they are above how I perceive the law if the law actually says it. Like if the law says I have a right to protect myself, then if I do so in ignorance of a person's ability to supersede that because they failed to duely notify me, then I am not culpable.
user1596138
The worst kind of trolls are the trolls that don't even know they're trolls
user1596138
Like me
@LuckyKleinschmidt go stuff the gaping hole of insecurity with several hot pockets.
@DavidKamer my point was laws are interpreted case by case. they might tell you otherwise, but clearly people in power do illegal things and get off on them.
19:16
@LuckyKleinschmidt hey just wanted to say, for the record, that I don't care about what the government does outside of what I own. I only care when it comes down to making me less secure.
@rlemon this is true.
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@BenjaminGruenbaum I found an even better mousepad description
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> Guaranteed to add +1 to your durability
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@DavidKamer I honestly lack the capacity to discern what does and doesn't make me less secure when it comes to national or international security.
user1596138
Unless it's like. Dropping off a bunch of foreign citizens at my house. That would do it
@rlemon im not sure if you understand my question
19:19
You have no reason to believe that the thing they're supposedly doing to your hardware makes you less secure
then ask it better
because you want to style dynamic content. you can do that with JS after the content is loaded (callback) or with css which applies to future elements.
comments pointed out the css, I'm pointing out the callback
For all you know they may be giving it the ability to implement a remote blacklist.
@LuckyKleinschmidt I agree. I can't say what does in a national sense, but I will say that I know what makes me less secure personally. Installing backdoors on my devices makes my empirically less secure.
@LuckyKleinschmidt you don't have a house. You're a peasant who has been privileged with a sustained peace after WW2. Most of human history is purges and migration.
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19:22
@Rick I do have a house. I am not a peasant (is that an insult?), yes I am also awaiting the next great war.
user1596138
What's your problem dude
@KevinB I'm not only focused on the physical backdoors. I'm talking about any forced installed malware. Really when they go to Microsoft and force them to install a backdoor, that is more harmful than anything else.
can someone hammer that norepo?
can you hammer with norepo? or can you only hammer dupes?
You have no proof that they're doing this for malicious reason.
Or that they're doing it at all
you have evidence that you can then then use to speculate that these things are happening
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@Rick You know what peasant means right? Your persona just screams cringe dude. Not sorry.
19:23
@KevinB not doing it for a malicious reason doesn't make it not malware. You can use malware for a good reason and it's still classified as malware.
It's not worth even debating about till there's real information out there about it
it's pointless
you don' tknow
i don't know
noone here knows
@KevinB they actively maintain that they need the ability to do it: theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/23/…
that is proof enough
I know kung fu
that isn't proof of anything
@LuckyKleinschmidt my problem is your lack of growth and inability to expand your understanding. Your comfortable ignorance makes this democracy less effective.
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19:24
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@KevinB I do know because I watch press confrences where they say they want to continue to be able to do it.
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@Rick I'm putting you back on ignore lmao... Just wow.
unless it's all a concpiracy and they lie to use with fake news @KevinB ? lol
@rlemon thanks, also knowledge is relevant. This community exists for the purpose of education, not a sermon. Just a thought
ouch
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19:25
I've seen a lot more high horses than usual today
@Skullomania what are you on about? you have two options, you've been given both. explain your issue better if neither are working. I'm not the only person who is taking you down this path of answers
you have a callback option, or styling with css
given the question, there is no other reasonable choice.
You stated you've tried css but it didn't work
I tried styling after with javascript. I also tried using css after the call
show us the css you tried and the html it was supposed to target.
clearly it's incorrect
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Given the question: "How do I style a thing the way I want to?" is the apprpriate VTC reason "Too Broad"?
no one is preaching to you.
if that's all the question was, yes
you asked, we answered.
but that's not what this question is
look at the bottom of the page
19:27
nahh, I'm dipping. glhf
there is an accordion
user1596138
I flagged his Q as too broad. It doesn't ask a question, just asks for code that isn't defined at all
I'm not going to your site
@rlemon hammer is only for dupes, but Madara has a modhammer for any reason
provide a working sample in your question
19:28
@TylerH cool. now I know :P
(you don't need ajax to do so)
I just can't be bothered to help people who take offence to the help they've already got.
no offense taken
i said thanks
hahaha
19:55
@KevinB I will say that with the physical thing with the pictures: if they are going through and checking things that arrived from china for bugs/physically installed malware, then by all means :D.
20:15
@Mosho faired better this run, he's armed with a knife and riding a grizzly into battle.
cc @BenjaminGruenbaum @rlemon
what mod lets you ride animals?
Gonna have to get him a more badass weapon though, maybe a longsword
@rlemon Giddy-Up
cool
can the animal still attack? or do you have to dismount?
It's got a bunch, for battle, for caravans and for everyday jobs
@rlemon The animal will both tank and attack at melee range
interesting
I love the power armour + shitty knife :P
or is that plate?
20:17
@rlemon That's RimWorld for you
Marine
Yay JavaScript!
I'm playing mostly mod free right now, wanna get a good feel for the new update
My thing worked on first run!
Yay!
added a few that were annoying to do without. like rimfridge, and larger stack sizes
ohh and fishing
because I play river maps for the power gen
seems like fishing should be in vanilla now that we have bridges
but w/e
heh
i read power armor and shitty knife, and thought you started playing FO4 before reading the rest of the conversation
20:25
everyone active can read those anyways
$("#frmLogin").submit(function (e) {
            $.ajax({
                type: "POST",
                url: "2fa.php",
                data: $("#frmLogin").serialize(),
                success: function (data) {
                }
            });
            e.preventDefault(); // avoid to execute the actual submit of the form.
        });
I have two submit buttons. How can I change the url depending on which one is hit?
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Q: Form onSubmit determine which submit button was pressed

McTrafikI have a form with two submit buttons and some code: HTML: <input type="submit" name="save" value="Save" /> <input type="submit" name="saveAndAdd" value="Save and add another" /> Javascript: form.onSubmit = function(evnt) { // Do some asyncrhnous stuff, that will later on submit the form...

Think I got it
@JBis easy: set or pass a variable
it's super easy with react.
or just don't do anything on onSubmit besides prevent default and handle all your actions in the onclick methods. That's probably the better method
20:42
Do you think adding this to node.js makes sense ?
@DavidKamer Yeah. Thats what I would have originally done but I inherited this project :(
url: function(){ return (e.submited==="Next" ? '2fa.php' : 'auth.php')},
That doesn't seem to work
it try to format that as a string and go to that url
I wonder why this hasn't been added already
Can you configure webpack for Angular 5?
I want to be able to put breakpoints in my sourcemap god damn it.
Got it
            url: (function(){ return (document.getElementById("frmLogin").submited==="Next" ? '2fa.php' : 'auth.php')})(),
20:54
I think handling form actions outside of the submit event is wrong
the clicked button will be activeElement, you only care about one of them.
if the form is submitted in any other way, you don't care.
is there a way in chrome to open a tab with just a console? like chrome://console or some shit
atm i'm using about:blank and opening it
chrome://about/
if it's not there, it doesn't exist
Not sure if anyone here knows but on Google cloud is 127.0.0.1→127.0.0.1 considered egress traffic?
21:16
this.columns = [
  {
    name: 'item' === 'list' ? 'list' : 'n/a'
  }
];
21:39
-1
Q: Convert jQuery to String in Javascript

CrashBurnerI am trying to convert the object time to a String. My current javascript is as follows: var time = { "time": $("#weeks").val() }; How would I then convert that time object into a String?

surely it's just time.time? .val() should already be a string?
nobody knows
the question is unclear and the op is mia
call me Ishmael, bt what is the actual formula in this spreadsheet formula
=(B3/(TAN(Formulas!B3)))
I get it's doing TAN on the B3 value...but what does Formulas! piece do
21:52
targets a different sheet i think
in sheet Formulas
presumably it's a different sheet than the current sheet
sheet1!A1 vs sheet2!A1
ahhh
sneaky
it's useful
yeah it is, but didn't know what Formulas was
clicked everywhere
thanks
21:53
i once made the game of life in excel and used that to do double buffering
hopefully last time I have to see excel this week
@MadaraUchiha Thanks to you as well. I tried my previous syntax again after reading your comment and hence it started working. — Varun Bindal 4 hours ago
Yeah, thought so.
Canadian flag profile says oregon something fishy going on
stalker
no I was curious if english is a second language
I genuinely think SO isn't accomindating enough for others
22:04
meh
i think that's just programming in general
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A: Nodejs HTTP Createserver - unpredictable javascript execution while serving from html files

jfriend00In a nutshell, your http server is not configured to send populate_header.js to the browser when the browser asks for it. When you do this in your HTML file: <script src="populate_header.js"></script> You're telling the browser to send your web server a request for a resource named populate_h...

answers question, then in that very answer, links to 4 identical answers he provided
hiiiiiii
22:57
Talking about UI wtf is this scrolling
23:09
I know it's all microoptimization, but I am just wondering this out of interest: what is happening that (in firefox) for loops and pushing element by element is so much faster than using arr1.push(...arr2); - The latter is just more constraint than the first, and thus can always be expanded to a simple for loop anyways.
23:43
Can someone answer stackoverflow.com/questions/16735988/… ? It has one non answer and one dead link. I desire same thing as op
Also realizing that I'm thinking in javascript so I went here with my css needs. woops.
going to try and get a POSIX book
if POSIX is linux/mac compatible enough I migth switch over just maybe most likely not

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