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@towc you should probably never put that code anywhere near another developer or client
 
it would probably take more time to imagine a code structure that makes sense for this
also, my code currently doesn't fully implement that
need to check the other way around as well
 
@Shubham the last time, secure your server, use https, have a nice day. you're not going to get a better answer without asking a better question.
 
"[imagining] a code structure that makes sense for this" is like 90% of the job
 
ergh. Why are some devs massively averse to any libraries?
 
1:01 PM
@corvid control
libraries make you give some of that up
 
@ssube well, fair enough
 
that makes sense... I feel like libraries are usually more battle-tested
 
also pride
 
geez, my english
 
they didn't write the library, thus depriving them of a chance to prove how smart they are
 
1:03 PM
@corvid For me it's usually because the problem the library solves is an easy problem, and the library solves it in a way that doesn't fit in well with the codebase.
 
"Data structures, not algorithms, are central to programming." Rob Pike
 
which is kinda a shame, because being able to utilise other peoples code effectively makes you look smarter than writing a half-assed XYZ lib
 
@KendallFrey what would you think about something like Axios, which is a relatively larger library?
 
I don't know the first thing about it
 
what do you mean a "larger library?" Axios is not a large library, nor does it have a broad API.
 
1:05 PM
Looks useful if you need the advanced features, but I wouldn't use it if I just wanted to make any old HTTP request
 
library vs roll your own is and always will be a judgement you need to make.
 
Or, like, a ba or someone
 
ba?
 
Business analyst
 
Hooray, our system is down
 
1:07 PM
I think he means your yard-sheep
 
ain't no "business analyst" telling me when to use a library or write my own code.
 
@ssube We use metre-sheep in this country, boy
 
Not if they want to keep his or her tongue
 
If you work in a large Enterprise shop there very well might be
 
@ssube someone basically re-wrote axios, I asked, "why not just use axios?", he didn't really have much of an answer. Historically though he really is averse to any library, even React
 
1:08 PM
I've never seen BA means anything related to devs
 
My keyboard has a bayonet for just such occasions.
 
@ssube I've seen it first hand in elearning.
BA had as much if not more pull than some of the team leads
 
I believe you, BA is one of those bogus titles that means whatever the LT wants.
 
LT?
 
I'm happy with rewriting a library that already exists, but not when being paid to do it.
 
1:10 PM
leadership
 
I implemented LINQ in JS once, but I threw it away after I found another library that did the same thing.
 
re-inventing the wheel teaches you a bunch about wheels.
I have no problem with that in that capacity
 
but not that much about cars
people get confused about that
 
it teaches you analogies, though
 
two different problems imo.
 
1:11 PM
writing a million wheels will not produce a working car, even if you can roll most of the way to your goal
understanding each part is great, but you also need to understand the big picture and which parts should be outsourced
 
if you wanna learn how something works, building it is a great teaching tool. using it after that point may or may not make sense.
 
I sure wouldn't go to space in any of our KSP ships :P
 
noob
 
and I'll probably never use my own hand rolled router, but I wanna build one just to understand in full how client side routers work. (I have a good idea already)
it'll live on github with 1 star forever
 
1:14 PM
so will most of my libraries, but each of those stars is also a real production library that I feel much more comfortable with now, and most of those are bullet points on a resume
 
what are we arguing again?
 
my resume is bag of sweet corn.
I've never been turned down.
 
I agree with lemon that you learn a lot by re-implementing, but also with ssube that sometimes i's best to move on and worry about the bigger picture not what library you use for task X.
 
Imagine if sweet corn was actually sweet
 
4 mins ago, by rlemon
two different problems imo.
 
1:16 PM
I was agreeing with lemon
 
so we all agree, then. :)
 
except Kendall
 
well, yea.
 
6 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
I'm happy with rewriting a library that already exists, but not when being paid to do it.
 
I still wouldn't trust us to go to space
 
1:17 PM
member that movie about the farmer who made a rocket ship?
that's how I wanna die.
 
any failure would be a quick one, at least.
 
@KendallFrey not that one, just the KSP comment
 
oh
@Luggage You missed the Challenger explosion, didn't you?
 
too soon
 
well, relatively quick. a few minutes.
 
1:18 PM
Well it's not terminal cancer, but it wouldn't exactly be fun
 
No, but I would think most failure would be faster to kill you.
 
at least it's not Rimworld or The Sims
then you'd be stuck in an empty pool or under a mountain, burning to death
 
or attacked by 30 squirrels
 
there ya go, joy for your eyes
that should at least implement the logic correctly
 
ohh god
 
1:20 PM
@Luggage I got hit by a huge pack of manhunting labs the other day, I had to reload.
 
what? did someone throw up?
I didn't see it
 
JavaScript :: Horror Stories
 
@KendallFrey I did that a few times and played the shit out of that game.
 
That was my favourite game as a kid
 
1:21 PM
@ssube I got a bug infestation, then before I could deal with that mech raiders dropped.
 
The coaster physics were amazingly good for the time.
 
lost half my people
 
The menu music still does funny things to me
 
The crowds, too. It did everything the new Simcity claimed to, but... 15 years ago.
 
HOMM II and Ultima Online were my two games as a kid
(on PC)
and Jagged Aliance II
 
1:22 PM
@ssube Did you know that that game was almost purely ASM?
 
@ssube And it was written in assembly.
 
@rlemon I've had one real mech raid and it was only 2 scythers. I'm dreading the next.
 
Or was it C?
 
@OliverSalzburg God, just stop
 
Mostly ASM.
 
1:22 PM
HAMMERTIME!
 
Yeah, I've read a few posts on it and people's attempts to recreate it.
 
@ssube mech raids are the worst. they carry automatic weapons and incendiary launchers
 
Yeah, it was ASM
 
@rlemon so do all my people :D
 
1:23 PM
@OliverSalzburg There's a C port now, but it was reverse engineered from the original assembly.
 
We got attacked by 8ish pirates the other day and ended up with 6 dead pirates and a forest fire.
 
@ssube I need to build more weapons. right now everyone just has rifles
 
@KendallFrey Fun :D
 
I used to play theme hospital growing up
 
I put most of my steel into building turrets
 
1:24 PM
I always wanted to program my own shameless copy of that game
 
My best fighters have energy weapons, except for one, who won a legendary named incendiary launcher.
 
there's a turret like every 10 squares surrounding my base
 
Everybody has vests and helmets.
or they're supposed to, no idea if they actually do
 
most of the time human raiders just get picked off by all my turrets
same with manhunter packs.
the mech weapons have better range tho and they just pick my turrets off
 
yeah, I keep a dedicated sniper around for that
 
1:26 PM
one sniper isn't going to do shit against 3 mech grubs
tl;dr mech raids are bad
mkay
 
grubs are the big ones with the cannon?
 
yea
 
cause no, those things suck
 
I call them grubs because they look like grubs
:D
 
they do
the sniper is super effective against scythers, though
 
1:27 PM
the scythers? are the humanish ones I think
 
which can, if I play it right, give the rest of my guys a chance to get in close to the grub and wreck it
 
holy shit, it's a pokemon
 
yeah, except for the color
 
rimworld just like "I'll take you, and you, and you" from other franchises?
 
o.o
 
1:30 PM
Scyther no Scything?
 
@SuperUberDuper ya know, there is a breakpoint in chrome's debugger
(or firefox's)
 
^ In the interest of full disclosure, IE too
 
fuck IE
hmm that reminded me that someone sent me a rule 34 version of IE >_>
 
Who needs to make a meme when the sign does it for you #F1 https://t.co/lM1ma4m9js
 
1:37 PM
i wonder why people want to always fuck something they hate
 
@Abhi I don't want to fuck VB
 
@Abhi that's not what that means
 
keh, first time that git pull hangs at me o.O
had to use Ctrl +C
 
ssh or the internet was doing something funny
 
how can I teach webpack/babel to transpile that code so it is already a transpiled class at runtime?
let targetClass = new Function("return class ${name}{}")();
creating a an "empty class" with Function eval.. which happens at runtime and then you can't extend that class with babel-transpiled classes of course
 
1:46 PM
I drank too much wine to assist you. sorry :|
 
@SterlingArcher youtube.com/watch?v=0sWKKKNRV90 new song :)
album coming in Oct
 
@Luggage @ssube any idea?
 
@KarelG are you guys typically getting wasted on friday 3pm?
 
assume the doublequotes to be backticks...
 
@GNi33 I allow my team to go on italian restaurant as lunch each friday. Ofc wine is flooding ... disclosed with beer :D
Company pays
 
1:49 PM
that's very nice
and you don't go back to the office I assume :)
 
my old company used to allow that, then an IT got shitfaced and made an ass out of himself in front of some clients.
company stopped happy hour
 
@GNi33 i'm currently working :|
 
well, me too
 
some of us goes to home afterwards though
probably too much 🍻
 
I'd either go home or don't drink. I hate sitting in the office after having a few drinks
 
1:52 PM
well... if you drink plenty but are capable to work (* ahem * less efficiently) you can still work
 
a beer or two, I don't mind
I mean, I drink too much anyways. so 1-2 isn't really going to make me feel any different
but I wouldn't wanna be buzzed at work
 
@KarelG I can. I just don't want to
 
you're a good person :)
 
I'm too clumsy when I'm drunk, work would know
 
1.5hours left guys, then weekend
 
1:57 PM
@SterlingArcher speaking of, hangouts
 
wtf lemon
 
haha
 

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