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17:02
@Loktar watch out you don't want to spend more on shipping then the actual computer
@William haha yeah, the one I was looking at a while back was free shipping
but I have too much junk so I decided against getting any
I have thrown out perfectly usable old computers like that before. To much of a hassle to sell and I am not spending my time giving them away. Feel guilty about it sometimes.
The only ones I didn't feel guilty about were the Pentium computers.
@ssube lies, mystery goo only comes in containers!
@William how old?
Pentiums before P2's are starting to go up in value a bit
third world denizens are tired of minesweeper and doom, ready for minecraft,
5" thick tvs are trash in the usa, new hotness in the 3rd world, where they're discarding their old console tvs to the 4th world
downcycling
when theres flexible tvs all the flatscreens will be landfill
17:13
They are thrown out now. Most of them had bad fans that were custom.
I can't be assed to sell old computers
They're scavenge boxes
I actually had to use one recently because my girlfriend's gpu caught fire
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In the country I'm in most of the computers and components come from recycled hardware
@Cereal How many times have I reminded you to never use graphic acceleration in processing my mixtapes
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too bad today more people are extracting the gold and other resources from such machines
....gold?
You mean copper?
17:17
> too bad more people are recycling the electronics
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both
ftfy
@KamilSolecki your cpu and other chips have a very small amount of gold in them
but now that we know about neutron stars, we can make more gold
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that has become big industry now.
LIGO made recycling obsolete \o/
17:18
my coworker has 5 graphics cards in his old case mining bitcoin
someones smart
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that theory is so wrong
I feel like I'd lose money on the power bill by mining bitcoins
@ssube now we just need to keep recycling till we can build something to harvest it :D
@rlemon oh, TIL. I was thinking like the gold plated plugs and sockets (which is, in general, absolutely not worth the price and somewhat a scam)
@Webster china controls most of the blockchain and mining. From what I have read he is the exact opposite. Not smart. Exactly power bill is the enemy. China pays a fraction for power.
17:19
@Cereal probably. Ether is profitable, though.
@KamilSolecki gold connectors are worth it when you're talking about some stuff
saw that the other day, wondering why the person was selling
@rlemon I had the audio in mind
that looks like a nice mining rig
all the unharvested user data
17:21
@ssube yeah that's what I was thinking too
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They also are the leaders in solar energy
> elling a 6 x Gigabyte G1 GTX1070 Cryptocurrency mining rig. Just built/tuned, I have had it running stable at 190 MH/s on ethereum for 4 days straight without crashing. Will include original boxes with sale.
and chinese food
only 4 days though?
seems weird
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ha
17:21
@007 The Who?
ah maybe I'm reading that wrong
maybe they're just reselling rigs
just 4 days straight w/o crashing, not 4 days total
I think that was the burn-in test
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not sure whatyou are asking me kamil
17:22
^ loktar is right
er wait just built/tuned so yea
person is building them for resale? I don't know many miners or people who want to do it that wouldn't just build their own though idk.
really? I've heard quite a bit about the market for prebuilt ones
especially for the larger stuff, plug and play is a selling point
@ssube I have a buddy who's out test driving cars right now. He' susing the money he got from eth to pay for the entire car
oh really? I guess I just haven't paid attention
build a solar farm, buy a mining rig, mine the cost of your solar farm back, profit
17:23
Wish I listened to him when he told me to buy some lol
just seems like the overhead cost of a prebuilt might suck since the whole point is to make money
just more to recoup initially I guess
Meanwhile in Bratislava:
hack a surplus russian nuclear sub to power the miner
@Loktar how long does it take to mine $4500 with 200MH/s?
I have no idea, I really know nothing about it honestly
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17:25
if my understanding of mining is correct... and I don;t know that it is because I don;t understand it all but the crypto type mining is wrong and not ethical
2
Assuming all you do is mine, 2 years, tops.
haha @007
With inflation along the way, much less.
oh, cultivate a botnet on users machines to gather yer bitcoin
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because you are installing elements on users computers without then know correct?
17:25
@Webster there are a few
@007 not even a little bit
@007 oh nah, not in these cases
there are some websites who use people to do it though
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ok
one specifically hijacks open k8 clusters to plant disposable mining containers
@Loktar but that's a specific type of botnetting
17:26
the encryption is to make it hack proof
not inherent to bitcoin mining
it may be the most ethical currency
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with their knowledge
really neat idea to use the users processor imo, that kind of things been around for a while, but no real reason to do it until now
so they cause the cluster to scale up to max and run thousands of containers across dozens of open clusters
17:27
shhh im bitcoin mining you
@Loktar tpb has been caught doing it, right?
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back in the mid 90's i recall elements like the Seti program that would use your computer to process radio signals from radio telescopes
I think so, I heard about a few sites doing it
@007 yeah that's still around
also folding@home
and a few others
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but maybe i misread the write paper on that
oh yeah theyre crowd sourcing science processing even now
17:27
they did the same thing with gene folding damn Loke
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crytomining
you can volunteer processing power now
for the project you like
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interesting...
@KamilSolecki @Loktar theregister.co.uk/2017/10/19/…
coinhive is adding an opt-in screen, apparently
peoples phones are largely under utilized, and theyre all connected, just saying...
17:30
peoples phones run on batteries
Yeah but phones are meant to be 'under-utilized' most of the time, or else the battery life would only last an hour or so lol
fix one problem then we can talk
and they keep them charged
@ssube that's pretty cool
in what world?
17:30
alternative form of advertising
I think I'd opt in for that on most sites on my desktop
@Loktar with an opt-in screen and some way to enforce quotas, I'm in
like right away
without quotas, still probably opting in
I'll just put chrome in a VM or something
yeah as long as ads go away
if it's a true alternative, great idea
fuck it, can I just setup a dedicated rpi that crunches away really slow in the background and get my internet for free too?
I run adblock (and pay for any sites I host myself), but if this becomes a thing, I'm cool with that
@rlemon hah I wonder how much you'd make on an rpi
17:32
$0.01/year
can an rpi control a GPU?
lol probably
@ssube couldn't you run it on the processor and just have it too terrible?
set up some USB->PCIe->GPU bridge, run a mining client on the pi
or just run a buttload of pis
you could, sure, especially with MS' fan mount
did you guys see that model they posted?
17:33
> To see how much you can make on mining check out

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty - at the moment you can generate about 10 US cents worth of bitcoins per month with 1.3Gh/s as shown on the display on the picture in the article.
heh back from 2015 though
my coworker has made 1.7 bitcoin in the last few months
4-5 months
with the 5 graphics cards Running
I had 20 bitcoins stolen from me shortly after I started mining
in like 2012
and I ragequit
I know a few people who made a dozen or so bitcoin
17:35
true story :P
@rlemon no stirling, architects
all of them sold them for like $15/coin
I traded half of one for a $10 gift card
which, they were quite happy with at the time
it was a good trade at the time
bought a book (it was a good book)
17:35
yeah that cheers me up a little
trading at $5,600 today? am i reading that right?
good deal
my brother sold 11(?) and bought a $300 GPU
wat, for 1, 5600?
he was quite pleased
17:36
damn
Yes, Bitcoins have exploded in value.
speculators will speculate
pro-bitcoin people think they'll hit $10k, anti-bitcoin think they'll go back to <$1k
Didn't somebody get like 80 bitcoins with a game purchase a long time ago and lost the wallet account?
some real players must be starting to take it seriously
17:36
@Loktar convert it to CAD, looks even better
😉
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is it the american economy that is the driver behind this high rate?
north korea - that is how they getting around sanctions jk
@Webster not bitcoin, the forks and some other factors are driving that
im guessing chine, russia and illegal dark web peeps
gangsters
financial players are using different/their own blockchains
17:37
and businessmen
pretty sure china uses bitcoin the most
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ahhh ok
I thought it was banned in china
@William they are using cryptocurrency
@William could be, my information is old.
17:38
@William No, China has massive buildings over there. There are warehouses filled with mining computers that do nothing but.
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I have read that
@hilli_micha right next to the coal plant
China bans bitcoin executives from leaving the country - trustnodes.com/2017/09/19/…?
also down the street from a GPU foundry, most likely
@ssube on the other side of the 3d printer warehouse
17:39
I would say it might be banned soonish
they abuse their computer miners there
@William they're shutting down exchanges by the end of the year, afaik
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in the future they will be a the worlds main super power some say
I for one welcome our chinese overlords
17:40
you stole that from Firefly and we all know it
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ha
@SterlingArcher yep
sucks to be that asshat
Haven't we been welcoming our Chinese overlords for like 10 years now?
I want easy orange chicken, hurry up china.
Canada is taking over the world on the dl
Watch out for weaponized moose
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what is dl?
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17:44
oh a moose
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i thought north america had elk or are they the same creature >?
to the google with you
@007 download
Canada are the masters of cyberspace
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ok
they produce most of the world's porn
17:45
@hilli_micha well, certain parts of it
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yes I see they have different snouts
we're the porn masters
all of the good stuff, outside of germany
the worlds largest online* porn companies are owned out of Quebec
Absolutely; maple syrup is widely known as an aphrodisiac.
17:47
that's why lemon had his blood replaced
I'm sure Canadian Bacon is there somewhere as well; but let's not lie to ourselves, that's not real bacon.
Its just ham.
@hilli_micha gotta keep warm somehow
canadian porn has too many layers
yknow because winter
canadian bacon is a lie
@SterlingArcher #gotem
17:47
it's not even ham, it's just a falsehood laced with fat
@hilli_micha no, yall are just getting lied too. Canadian Bacon in Canada is not what they serve you in the states
bacon is bacon
made from real canadians
@rlemon Are you saying this is a conspiracy by Big Pork to foster discontent between Canada and the U.S.? Move aside Russia.
@hilli_micha no, it's restaurants being cheap af and the meat industry piggy backing on it
Peameal bacon (also known as cornmeal bacon) is a type of back bacon made from lean boneless pork loin, trimmed fine, wet cured, and rolled in cornmeal. Development is credited to a Toronto, Ontario, ham and bacon curer, William Davies. The name "peameal bacon" derives from the historic practice of rolling the cured and trimmed boneless loin in dried and ground yellow peas to extend shelf life. Since the end of World War II it has been rolled in ground yellow cornmeal. Peameal bacon sandwiches are often considered a signature dish of Toronto's St. Lawrence Market. == References... ==
17:49
I'm pretty happy with the rise in quality that happened when I mostly stopped eating pork
^ what I know as 'Canadian Bacon'
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there was an article in the local periodical about lads in north america taking with out permission large amounts of maple ambrosia
but it's pretty contested, because 'Canadian Bacon' is afaik an american term
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they were sacked by the authorities
stripper cops are a serious problem
17:50
@SterlingArcher
mid-arrest and they sack someone by accident
I thought we were KOS 007
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I had no understanding that it was such an issue there
hrm, I guess the rest of Canada would consider back bacon to be 'Canadian Bacon'. Peameal is an ontario thing
til
Much like Aaron Rodgers did recently.
It was a cop the whole time.
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17:51
kos?
Kos or Cos (English: or ) (Greek: Κως, Greek pronunciation: [kos]) is a Greek island, part of the Dodecanese island chain in the southeastern Aegean Sea, off the Anatolian coast of Turkey. Kos is the third largest island of the Dodecanese by area, after Rhodes and Karpathos; it has a population of 33,388 (2011 census), making it the second most populous of the Dodecanese, after Rhodes. The island measures 40 by 8 kilometres (25 by 5 miles), and is 4 km (2 miles) from the coast of the ancient region of Caria in Turkey. Administratively, Kos constitutes a municipality within the Kos regional unit...
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I see
Lol
Man, sewage canal kayaking seems both super cool and super sketchy
Seems like a shitty experience. hur hur hur
18:11
@ndugger I wasn't paying attention
Work is brutal
#brutal
You'd think the last 2 weeks of a job would be busy not being busy but I'm busier than ever
I don't even have time to go rub one out in the bathroom :(
so, at your desk then?
Watch out for Karen; she's a nark
@ndugger thatsactuallymycustomersname
I'm leaving it to my PM to tell them I quit
Shit they have my cell phone number though
that's going to be so awkward
18:19
➡️ ⬅️
Is there a C room
Rip, wish me luck
yup
there's no coldfusion room
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I found a bunch of these in one of our fave old workers code lol
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const enoughEmailCredits = emailCreditsAvailable < emailCreditsDeducted ? false : true;
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true ? false : true
18:24
lol
i mean
> is so much harder to type
see
function hasEnoughEmailCredits(emailCreditsAvailable, emailCreditsDeducted) {
  var enoughEmailCreditsNot = emailCreditsAvailable < emailCreditsDeducted;
  if( enoughEmailCreditsNot ) {
    return false;
  } else {
    return true;
  }
}
replace it with this
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@rlemon shouldn't that go on a prototype somewhere
pro-to-type? :confused face:
!!hasEnoughEmailCredits(a, b)
18:26
function EmailCreditThresholdFactory() { this.hasEnoughEmailCredits = () => { /* the above */ }; }
!(hasEnoughEmailCredits(a,b) == false)
@rlemon isn't this too complicated?
@PixelsTech no, it's desired
JS is too easy, we need to raise the bar
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cries in help vamp
Number(!(hasEnoughEmailCredits(a,b) == false)) === 1
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18:28
This was best helps ever
@Jhoverit you should probably drop what you have and go learn webpack, gulp, and preact
no one uses vanilla js anymore
learn ayo.js
but alias it as ayo.lmfao
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We had a guy named Ayo working here. Got deported
speaking of LMFAO, I'm tempted to dress up as redfoo for halloween
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18:29
No he lost his work visa or something lmao
you're tall. go as a lamp post
that seems bad
@rlemon when u say it's easy, u mean it seriously???
depends on how far I want this to go '
18:32
The last time @rlemon joked, Donald Trump became President, he hasn't made a joke since.
only puns for 11 months
Sep 22 at 17:33, by rlemon
I don't know how babies are made. So I just keep making dad jokes in the hopes one will show up
that's my story and I'm sticking to it
have the jokes been successful?
they seem to be having the opposite effect
Do too many jokes you'll throw your SO into early menopause.
18:34
ok, so there wasn't some story I missed
@hilli_micha I've been making bad jokes at her for the past seven years. she hasn't left me yet
Yeah, my wife too. She still gets annoyed with me pissing in the sink. I tell her it's easier than lifting the toilet seat.
yea we don't have that problem
I go in the garage
@rlemon lol
welp, another sd card bites the dust
related to earlier convo ^^
18:40
Yeah, don't know if it was brought up, but sites like PirateBay were running Miners and using visitor's Web Browsers to mine crytpocurrency.
Obviously a bit of an ethical issue, but amazing none-the-less.
carry on then
lol
MS' made a press release about that as well, some mention of redirecting their current docs over to MDN
MDN has gained a lot of trust with developers
18:44
we're living in a time of science, it's all pretty exciting
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@rlemon make one for this
w3c are what they call graduates of w3schools
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&& this.props.isEmailDetail ? true : false
return ( 'props' in this && 'isEmailDetail' in this.props && this.props.isEmailDetail == false ) == true ? true : false;
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const values = {
  'true': true,
  'false': false
};
values[String(this.props.isEmailDetail)];
18:46
@rlemon good piont bruv
if (!!this && !!this.props && (!!this.props.isEmailDetail || this.props.isEmailDetail.toString() == "yes"))
always allow booleans
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@ssube "yes"?
@ssube how about no?
or no, whichever.
no?
18:47
@Vap0r not even with the implication?
@ssube well I mean it's definitely a go with the implication
this.props.isEmailDetail.toString() !== Boolean(this.props.isEmailDetail.toString())
!(1 ^ this.props.isEmailDetail)
front
18:52
@ssube apparently it was the hashbang
for some weird reason
@FlorianMargaine since you have done this before what do you think is a good way to implement something like process.getppid or process.ppid in nodejs? (I remember you doing os.tmpdir)
On my cousin's farm in Canada at 17, wearing a hat on a hat
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this.props.isEmailDetail >> 0 == Boolean('yes');
Wes
Wes
/me runs fast

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