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ejs is comfortable to work with
performance has never concerned me with it
I prefer pug. Because pugs are funny and that brings me joy when I have to write the template
there is very very little to learn with ejs
for the most part it is just regular js within your HTML
I'm so torn back and forth when it comes to client-sided templating engines... I hate to mix concerns and logic so damn hard, but I also hate to generate it all in Javascript itself. That's a reason why I so much dislike react's jsx
You ever hit that moment where you start doubting you're going to get a job that'll actually get you out of your rut?
Mostly because your current job is fucking you over a barrel and laughing about it.
@Trasiva No, if I get near that point I leave and find another place to work at.
14:07
@MadaraUchiha lol wtf
Whenever I didn't like a job. I just quit without having any followup plans
who was he?
and I said "was" because I think he's RIP in peperonni now
Then I let Jesus take the wheel
@MadaraUchiha The problem is like I've said, and what I was confirmed by the interviewer last night. My current job is making employers really leery about hiring me.
@Neoares You weren't anywhere near the fires, were you?
@Trasiva How so?
14:08
^
@Trasiva no, I'm in catalonia
Are you doing something illegal/immoral?
top right of spain
near france
well I'm at barcelona, so far from france :D
@MadaraUchiha Because my current job uses antiquated technologies and aren't using any of the shinier, newer things like angular or react. Using outdated .NET and SQL.
but we also have baguettes and croissants
14:09
is there a specific classification for defining a language as a "first class" language?
outdated .net? like .net 2?
@Trasiva just convey that you are willing to learn and have the abilities to understand the technologies (if you do)
maybe they'll give you a test or something
@Trasiva I was in the same position but was able to convince my last job to try react (so I could throw it on my resume). After 6 months in the project w/ react experience I left for a more modern shop. Not sure if you have the same level of autonomy at your job though
@Vap0r also depends on how aware your manager is of the fact you're trying to try it in a new language just to get some marketability and then leave
@KendallFrey @rlemon imgur.com/0gV1WRU.png
finished one of the aliens legs today
speaker for scale
14:14
how can you let webpack bundle your file before letting node run it?
nice
took 11 hours
I just did it when I was sleeping though
@TylerH too true.... we did have a good use-case for react, but I was able to kinda avoid betraying my intentions like that to my manager
What layer height is that?
14:15
i like the pumpkin too :3
if($distributor =='julian'){$distributor ='julian';} Found this gem in our code
@Loktar @KendallFrey I'm doin it
What is that?
gonna get a VR of mah own
@ssube Not coming to the UK :(
14:20
@ssube nifty
Says mixed reality, not VR
But what does it actually do?
Is it OpenVR, or what kind of support does it have?
nice let me know how you like it
SteamVR is in preview, should be out around the holidays
I held off because the reviews were semi meh
14:20
reported to work fairly well
you need the wands too
the screens are supposed to be really nice
did you get those?
well I mean for most steamvr games
it's all inside out tracking though so there are occlusion issues with the wands which disappointed me
> the Odyssey is designed for Microsoft's VR platform
Since when does MS have a "VR platform"?
China is holding some sort of conference.
14:21
All of China?
The GFW is becoming more and more unbreakable.
@Loktar pretty sure it's the bundle, but I'm planning on using it at my desktop mostly anyways
between the controller, racing wheel, and keyboard with the virtual desktops
ooh the bundle nice
you've got me paranoid now :P
oh, I'm just letting the stupid out
> Price includes left and right controllers and 2 free contents (Rock & Rails, Farsighted).
@Luggage Pretty much it. We're all confined in a network. The available websites are strictly under control. The party is doing all their might to prevent the use of VPNs, shadowsocks, lantern, especially during the conference period.
14:25
but I am still very curious about the virtual desktop/work opportunities, with the (relatively) high res amoleds
@ssube subscribe
@ssube yeah that should be cool
to what?
I'm just disapointed though that it's not AR at all
I remember they were saying you;d be able to dock windows in the real world
@Loktar yeah, it's just the next wave of VR
which is cool and all
14:27
@ssube to your impressions
but it just seems like it's straight VR right now
but a good hololens would be better
@Mosho I will report back
one benefit is not setting up external sensors, but definitely curious how well the inside out tracking works
they drop on Nov 6th, it's "guaranteed to ship by Nov 10"
The said conference is officially named "National People's Congress (NPC)", to put it in English.
14:29
@Loktar we only have one room that's good for VR and the Vive sensors are already set up, so that was one of the selling points for me
more sensors means holes, power strips, cable ties
heh yea
@Vap0r I've been trying to even get them to do something as simple as upgrading to .NEt 4.0, they won't do it. And forget trying to get angular or react involved.
my rift sensors are easy fortunately since i have a drop ceiling
the weight of the tiles holds them in
but the vive sensors I had to drill, and I've moved them once as well
@bitten That doesn't always work either. Esp if you haven't had any real life experience with anything that's not ten years old.
I might be able to do that in the basement, but the projector and everything is set up down there and my desktop isn't
14:30
however I was able to use the sync cable between them via the drop ceiling again which was nice
@Trasiva that's extremely shitty. Are you capable of working in newer technologies that your job currently doesn't support? If so then perhaps some "creatively" written job expertise is in order
we originally had it set up with the sync cable and good line of sight (but not ideal) and it worked ok, but moving them to face each other from opposite corners, mounted like security cameras are, seemed to work best
yeah mine face eachother they are just a bit far apart
15 ft or so
can't wait for FO4 VR
hoping that makes me play my vive more often
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Sent loktar this last night. Car/pc case porn
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14:41
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@HatterisMad @SterlingArcher
do you guys know how to access the renameNode() function?
did you have added weights to prevent it rolling ?
+ nice customization
@Jhoverit the monitor ruins it
14:43
shit, I have a set of those in the basement
@erotavlas what do you mean with "access" ? If you want to know what it does, just check the documentation (google mdn node renameNode)
anybody want to buy a PC case?
@Neoares I thought that was a microwave at first
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@Neoares Looks cool to me
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14:44
That's like a $400 rim too
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It's a shop computer
@KarelG I did I was looking at this w3schools.com/xml/met_document_renamenode.asp
That's the go to BWM rim brand
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Yea I already have a dispensable $400 rim
@KarelG but I don't see it defined on any of my objects
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14:45
THat I smashed into a curb
@SterlingArcher wat?
@ssube every aftermarket rim I see on BWMs is a BBW rim
you mean for aftermarket?
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BBS
14:45
@TylerH lol nice one
ok, yeah, that's definitely true
@KarelG I'm parsing a string xml like this

parser = new DOMParser();
xmlDoc_form = parser.parseFromString(formXMLstring, "text/xml");
@Jhoverit i know lol just playin
@Jhoverit holy shit
@SterlingArcher who do you file the complaint with if they break?
14:46
@KarelG but....when I try to access renameNode on that xmlDoc_form object, there is none
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I fucking love Google Photos
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I have hundreds of car photos but I need one of my wheel
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Can literally search "wheel"
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i.sstatic.net/IxpEI.jpg Thanks GPhotos
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I have one of those ^ that I can cut
14:47
@SterlingArcher theonion.com/…
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Not as cool tho
@KendallFrey it's true
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@KendallFrey riiiiight make one
@erotavlas DOMParser gives you a Document object.
@Jhoverit I'm not a car guy though so I'd have to think of something else
14:48
This woman has an oil painting in her email signature
why
I wonder if a rocket-shaped PC would work
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You can play iRacing on it
I want to 3d print a case
apple already makes cylindrical computers
or at least a cool front for one
14:48
(and since you're reading xml, continue to XMLDocument)
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Sounds time consuming
@Jhoverit I suppose I'd need to change the whole case during a pitstop too
@towc @copy @BadgerCat so face swapping badger and copy is too much work with the hair and the glasses in the way.. so I just gave you both towc's mouth.
so, yes, you'd just need to get a similar case and add a cone
@ssube I thought those were trash cans
14:49
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@KendallFrey Yea, make it so you can upgrade in 15 seconds flat
@TylerH yep
15? lmao try 3
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It isn't a F1 wheel ;P
14:49
I'd make it one
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Sounds cost effective
@KarelG oh crap, I scrolled down and saw its not supported by ANY browser w3schools.com/jsref/met_document_renamenode.asp
I'd really love to build myself a unique PC
yeah, it's not even defined
14:50
let results = $("#newNtMForm").serializeArray(); //serialize the form
I wonder if it'd work to have all the components hanging from the ceiling by strings
I first thought that it was from Node, but i was wrong at start
I'm such a fucking moron
that's a dynamic form D:
with an ID
What you need is to select and replace
fairly similar idea
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14:51
@ssube I've wanted to do that for a long time
I know the wall-mounted idea
@KarelG the whole node using something like replaceChild?
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Just flat
@ssube I would cover my mobo lol
behind a plexi glass or something <.<
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I find that one super unimpressive tho. akes soo much space
14:53
what are those gauge looking things on the bottom corner?
the lighting is bad enough
Just do what we all do, get tired of putting the cover back on your case.
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@KendallFrey build one inside a gyroscope
I think the only downside is if you live in a high dust area
it's a computer, not a corolla
14:53
er wait no nm
it's actually fully covered
wonder if the front is at all?
@KendallFrey Seems to lol^^
you'd lose the air flow vacuum if not
awesome, no grounding
14:54
@hilli_micha lol fuck there goes that idea
I'ts impressive regardless though
it's water cooled, you don't need air flow over most of it
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@Loktar You mean the wheel still or the wall
what cools the water?
and the VRMs 😛
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Water naturally cools
14:54
the fan on the radiator
I don't know what a VRM is.
which is air flow
its what a river does.
they are on the mobo
yea, but you don't need full-PC ait flow over all components
they require air to flow over them, however some do have water blocks now
I think a lot of people assume water cooling means no air flow required, but there are a lot of things that still need passive cooling, or rather are better off with it
14:55
full-mobo water blocks are super serious
even storage for example
yea, I hear you
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I'm going to mount my components in my air ducts
you guys, just jump on the bandwagon for the next evolution in system cooling... ground cooling
just bury your computer in a hole in the ground
lol
14:56
dirt will insulate it and it'll overheat :)
I mean tbh though I imagine it's perfectly fine, there are tons of open cases
^^ HVAC systems are nasty lol
just can't tell on that one if the front has any covering between the openings or not
submerge it in liquid nitrogen
AMD did that as a joke once
14:57
@erotavlas minreal oil
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As long as they can radiate enough heat from what I've seen they're fine. Just really heat up the room they're in
well, airflow changes the rate at which you can radiate heat
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Seems you have to go all out wide open or covered enough to have real flow
can you install that rim in your car?
@erotavlas I'll do you one better.
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14:57
@Luggage Ofc
I mean air flowing, not just being open to air
wtf lol
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@Luggage Yea, we all have played KSP
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Run a PC in a vacuum
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That'll work
14:58
evidently you haven't
I only have for 20 hours 😬
that's enough to crash 40 or 50 times, easily
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Lol I have spent so many hours on that...
weird @rlemon hey have you noticed ':(' is an angry face?
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