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4:00 PM
quantum is a different animal
our current machines are binary so everything is peachy
 
I think we have another me here. @Webster there can only be one ungrateful little brat who pretends to know what he's talking about in this room
 
@Webster that's overselling it a bit
 
read a book
or force me to read a book
 
processors will still use binary bytecode
 
i was just throwing it out there
 
4:01 PM
magic
 
I'm a generalist
I like discussion
 
@towc why are you calling people ungrateful brats?
 
even if they wouldn't use binary bytecode, don't worry about it. There will be compilers and transpilers before the CPU specs are released
 
everyone was being very polite up until that
 
isn't he talking out of his ass with an apparent tone of superiority?
 
4:02 PM
no, that's just you
 
well, also me
hence the preamble to that
 
no, just you. Stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
thanks Cap. Now, back to processors
 
4:03 PM
STAHP
 
HAMMAHTIME!
 
@jAndy a few companies claim to already have CPUs
MS, FB, and a few dedicated quantum companies are all over it
I guess MS claims not to but everyone thinks they do
 
!!schinkenspeck or corned beef
 
@rlemon schinkenspeck
 
@ssube in reality (from programmers perspective) would it matter in any way?
 
4:04 PM
man
 
It's a lot like C/++'s parallel extensions, from what I've seen
 
I don't know what I'm eating
but it's epic
box says strawberry rhubarb fruit crisp
brb googling rhubarb
 
sounds awesome
 
strawberry rhubarb is the shit
 
*if there is no cows breastmilk included
 
4:05 PM
For the term pertaining to baseball, see bench-clearing brawl. Rhubarb (Rheum rhabarbarum) is a species of plant in the family Polygonaceae. It is a herbaceous perennial growing from short, thick rhizomes. It produces large poisonous leaves that are somewhat triangular, with long fleshy edible stalks and small flowers grouped in large compound leafy greenish-white to rose-red inflorescences. In culinary use, fresh raw leaf stalks (petioles) are crisp (similar to celery, although they do not share the same family) with a strong, tart taste. Although rhubarb is not a true fruit, in the kitchen it...
wtf
 
rhubarb pie is pretty good
 
rhubarb is slightly bitter
goes well with acidic berries
 
visually, it's not pretty
 
@Mosho If you're never had rhubarb before, you need to go and buy a rhubard pie right now
 
rhubarb comes in a few different colors and is super vivid
 
4:06 PM
I must have heard the word on tv etc.
 
it's one of the brighter plants I've seen
 
rhubarb is great.
 
comes in the same colors as poison frogs
 
the leaves kill you tho
don't eat the leaves
 
yah
 
4:07 PM
and the roots are insanity
 
there's not even a hebrew page for it on wikipedia
 
you turn the stems into jelly
 
you don't eat the leaves, you smoke them, that's what I've heard
 
no really, the leaves are not good
 
4:07 PM
I have never heard that word in my life
 
but the stem is delicious
sour, and delicious
 
rhubarb leaves are actually poison
 
^
 
you will get very sick
 
and/or die
 
user2620028
4:08 PM
so... i got an ipad, and i am now realising that youtube had ads... and they have them like every 15s in a video. how is this website still usable for apple peoples?
 
so someone ate a leaf and almost died, then wondered about the rest of the thing?
 
I grew it in the yard for a bit to make pies out of it
@Mosho most vegetables have a poisonous bit
 
I need to transplant some of my moms next year
2
the stuff I got never tasted good.
 
bad strain
 
4:08 PM
the size and concentration vary, but they've all got it
 
I shouldn't have googled "smoke rhubarb leaves"
> Can you get high from smoking banana peels? - Off-Topic Discussion ...
 
hmm, what's the answer
 
> You would need to eat a lot of rhubarb leaves (some estimate a 150 lb adult would need to eat about 11 lbs of rhubarb leaves) to cause death. However, smaller quantities may cause a burning sensation in your mouth and throat, difficulty breathing, diarrhea, eye pain, nausea, stomach pain, vomiting, kidney stones, seizures, or coma.
 
asking for a friend
 
4:09 PM
> However, smaller quantities may cause a burning sensation in your mouth and throat, difficulty breathing, diarrhea, eye pain, nausea, stomach pain, vomiting, kidney stones, seizures, or coma.
many of those can lead to death
so idk why he's saying 150lbs
no I'm quoting your quote
 
yeah I realized after
 
> guns don't kill people, bullets do
 
If a burning sensation in your mouth and throat can lead to death, why are there still Mexicans?
 
I wish I could meet the guy who got violenty sick after eating rhubarb leaves and thought to himself "Maybe the roots!"
 
I had something weird happening to me today
 
4:11 PM
@Cereal I wouldn't eat the roots either.
they've large and nasty looking
 
in 2 hours I wrote ~300 lines of cognitively complicated code, and it worked on first try
I've been testing it for the whole day because it's super fishy
 
burn the witch
 
I was just scrolling down and someone said something about roots and jelly
 
I do that sometimes
 
@Mosho Oh Man youd love rhubarb cake
Its Just mmmmmm
 
4:13 PM
Rhubarb also makes a good summertime drink
 
Never had that tbh
 
Now I want to make rhubarb pie
 
But had a dank rhubarb pastry /w powdered sugar today
 
@ThachHuynh Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
4:15 PM
@ssube Oh Wow im retarded
 
@KamilSolecki yes
 
I know m8
 
I have the same problem as this topic, can anyone help me ? stackoverflow.com/questions/30782802/…
 
If someone doesn't understand privilege, show them this . https://t.co/tMM6MMXawL
 
Uh I Just got documentation badge
 
4:17 PM
this is pretty good
 
But i never contributed
 
i want my documentation badge removed
 
you should ask for that on meta
really rub some salt in there for them :P
 
@KevinB I want your documentation badge removed
 
so, uh
> top 0.54% this year
on SO
I haven't answered a single question in a year, or something
the system is rigged
 
4:23 PM
top 1% overall is something like 4k rep
 
yeah I'm at +8k
@KendallFrey tl;dw?
 
i have 4,480 for the year
with a change of -437
how does that make sense
 
ouch, dystroy is 0.03%
#114 all-time
 
Why does the rep change table not show negative change stats?
 
@FlorianMargaine Guy organizes a foot race with his students where a position of privilege (two-parent houshold, financial stability, etc.) gives you two steps head start.
 
4:26 PM
ah
 
oh no
I ate the whole rhubarb
 
smoke some cigarettes
they'll smother the germs
 
what does the 'change' column even track?
if you sort by it you get some wild numbers, like users with 2500 rep having a 300k change
 
Anyone here a webpack 3 king/queen?
 
4:30 PM
@IfTrue Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user2620028
@KendallFrey but why
 
To explain what privilege is
 
user2620028
so he assumes that someone lives in their own world where everyone has equal resources?
 
I am having an issue where I can get my less loader to to handle an imported less file from node_modules - but inside of that less folder the library author aliased nested less files (didn't put .less on the end of them). Webpack throws an error that it can't resolve those.
 
I never understood the privilege thing
 
user2620028
4:33 PM
@KendallFrey why is this a concept that needs to be taught? this is a concept that, when not being abused, is obvious to a child.
 
@Mosho watch the video
 
@HatterisMad What? No, that's exactly what privilege isn't.
 
@FlorianMargaine I meant what @HatterisMad said
why does it need to be explained
 
user2620028
@Mosho because people are changing the meaning of it to meet their own agenda
 
Because so many people demonstrate misunderstanding
 
4:34 PM
meaning of what
it's a word
 
user2620028
a word representing a concept
 
Is this the javascript chat?
First time trying to use Stackoverflow Chat - might've went to the wrong board.
 
@IfTrue Try here instead:
 
im afraid it is @iftrue
 

JavaScript

Topic: Anything JavaScript, ECMAScript including Node, React, ...
 
4:35 PM
I haven't seen the meaning of the word change recently
 
That depends, is your definition of javascript the same as the definition of privilege?
 
@KendallFrey That is a link to this room - so I am guessing yes?
 
@IfTrue haha :P
 
you're guessing right
 
then again
 
4:35 PM
OK seems I was right not to venture in here.
 
@Mosho Unfortunately, words mean whatever people want them to mean or think they mean.
 
I guess unprivileged people blame themselves for being unprivileged
I think I read once that's a thing
 
it is a thing
 
@KendallFrey why did you post it though
 
user2620028
to teach what privelege is apparently
 
4:37 PM
Because it's a good explanation of privilege
 
What does it have to do with Javascript?
I am so confused by this chat.
 
not everything here is on-topic
 
@IfTrue It's a chat room, not a JavaScript circlejerk.
 
Ok good to know that talking about the subject the room is titled after is now known as a "circklejerk".
 
for your question, webpack won't handle files with no extension
 
4:39 PM
Thank you ssube, do you know a way around it?
 
If you have something to say about JavaScript say it. There's a pretty good chance someone will be interested
 
I have already.
 
don't do stupid things like that
 
ain't nothing wrong with a good circlejerk
 
there's no good work around, if there is one at all
 
4:39 PM
ssube I am following it per recommendation of a library, not my own will.
 
replace the broken dependency
 
My co-workers were very supportive when I told them I wouldn't bail before our milestone demo. Got my references!
 
fork it
 
@ssube can't you use a regex/glob
like node_modules/<shitty package name>/*
 
if you want to write a regex that matches a directory and any file with no extension
I'd rather replace the broken package
 
4:42 PM
sure, just saying
 
you can always fix broken things with regex
 
worse things have been done
 
it just comes back for your soul later
that's the principle of Perl
 
what if there is nothing left
 
you get a duster and a revolver and go get more souls
like on tv
 
4:45 PM
I need to store rows of objects in a db. but I don't know how many objects, so I can't make a column per object.. how bad is just having a timestamp and a text column for the entire row (stored as json)
 
do you have an id or something you can pull out and use as the index?
 
nope
 
Check out Mongo rlemon.
 
can't use mongo
 
how will you be reading them back?
@IfTrue don't troll
 
4:46 PM
That isn't trolling.
 
it's a temp holding table that I'll be sending to another server once the socket is available.
 
then it's really bad advice
 
By "not knowing how many objects" you mean you don't know the columns?
 
so I'll be holding N rows, and each row will have N columns.
 
@rlemon oh, it's just a FIFO queue or something?
 
4:46 PM
pretty much
 
no complex queries
 
ssube, he literally talked about storing a flexible json object.
 
then yeah, just use the timestamp
 
@rlemon storing json in a db is a thing
 
seems dirty tho
 
4:47 PM
By definiton that is Mongos pride and glory use case.
 
@Mosho postgres can, but if he's just passing it on
 
postgres can do it well
 
@rlemon only because that's not what a database is for
you just want a queue
 
So can Sql Server 2016
 
but others can do it regardless
 
4:47 PM
@ssube yea and have it persist
 
But apparently talking tech is trolling here.
 
as text even
 
but if you want to use your database as a queue, your id/index is a timestamp
 
no shame in that
 
Talking JS is circlejerking.
 
4:48 PM
which is find
 
Have fun in here.
 
@IfTrue bye
 
@IfTrue mongo can't successfully store data
if you want to offer bad advice and whine at people, have fun
 
he actually left
5/7
 
he was kicked
 
4:48 PM
ah
 
which was a bit unnecessary, but w/e
 
lame
 
we already answered the Q, they were just hanging around to complain
 
@rlemon the "right" thing to do is have another table
 
Came back to say I was in fact kicked.
 
4:49 PM
with a many to one relationship
that's how you have an arbitrary number of "columns"
 
in the best case scenario, nothing hits the db
 
do you care about the contents of that JSON field at all?
 
the db is only there to hold values when there is no connection to the main server
 
can you use redis or something instead?
 
if I knew how to use it
:P
 
4:50 PM
or does load not matter and the db is already there
it really sounds like you just want unique keys for a string:string cache until you can read it all out and send it on
 
I have a device recording data and sending it to a server, the device has spotty internet and gets shut off often, so I just wanna make sure any and all of the data it collected eventually gets sent.
postgres is my goto normally. so I started here
 
What server are you running?
 
I would probably use redis or write to a file, but it doesn't really matter
 
@IfTrue does that matter?
 
Just curious.
 
4:53 PM
@ssube I would have thought that something like postgres would be more efficient on io vs me manually opening and closing a file to keep this data
writes are multiple per second.
 
that's... complicated. IO is pretty good, it's called a lot, and postgres eventually has to do IO.
if you were searching through the data, then absolutely
but if it's a sequential log, keeping a file open and appending is cheap, as is reading it back in order
are you more constrained by disk or memory?
 
@ssube hrm. I'll be bench that I guess
@ssube both
 
hm. Redis and Postgres will be heavy on memory and disk, files obv don't use much memory.
you can set redis up not to persist
 
one of these days I'll have to use redis
 
it's easy
 
5:11 PM
if I have pdf files in divs with ID="argh" will this document.getElementById("argh"); target the file names?
 
when you say "divs with ID," you don't mean multiple divs with the same id?
 
I continued watching american vandal
and it's pretty great lol
 
Why did IRC go out of style? IRC is dope
 
it's full of neckbeards
 
they don't have the same id yet
im trying to collect file names together so I can search them
 
5:18 PM
@ssube m'channel
 
:|
 
the closest element is the parent div
i think
okay I'll go back to working on my question
 
Oh, the -437 was my rank change. i went down 437 ranks this month
 
compared to last month
 
5:27 PM
my opinion of slinkies did an instant 180
 
@KevinB you shame me
 
I got a whole 100 rep this month and gained 1082 places
 
That just means i did a better job of downvoting this month compared to last month
 
I hit 6k yesterday
went from 5k to 6k only from dividends
never hitting dat 10k
 
i've been getting really close to 76k
 
5:31 PM
 
hm, two good answers and I'll hit 26k... maybe that's something to do over lunch
 
did scatman mean the same as it does now when the original was made
 
I don't know and I'm too scared to google it
 
5:34 PM
it's the guy in a jazz band who beat boxes
 
yeah, I know
 
or people who poop on each other
 
yeah
 
that was for Sterling's benefit
 
so was it like
a nasty pun back then
probably not
 
5:35 PM
it's not a real enough word to show up on etymology sites
 
user7480455
Hi all
 
it's maybe 100 years old, though, judging from the wiki article so I doubt it's changed much
 
googling scatman is fine
 
scatting is when random shit comes out of your mouth
 
but I did something brave and was pleasantly surprised
 
5:37 PM
that comes up when I type "p" in my browser
 
not sure I should be clicking further
 
the second one worries me
 
You know, for a screenshot of pornhub, that's a shockingly sfw post
 
first one is just the music video
second one is a little weird but innocent
 
@Mosho lol
 
5:39 PM
not sure if relieved or disappointed
 
your parents were both, you can be too
 
carry on the legacy fam
 
because I'm supposed to be social media manager i have the only unblocked computer in the company
I consider it work lurking in here
 
if I put SO on my resume, I can lurk during work hours
 
I put it on mine
 
5:44 PM
I put developer on there, now I am stuuuck
 
People see 1.3 million reach and they're impressed
 
plus my work computer isn't locked down. They pay for some of my home internet.
 
I convinced em to accept SO as community service
 
best part about being on call, the phone/internet money
 
apparently this song is proven to reduce anxiety
 
5:45 PM
i like my record of teaching on gdse but if people inspected theyd see I do a lot of answering during business hours
 
I've told previous employers that I was answering questions over lunch, they were fine with it
 
best feeling when you're trying to figure out how something is a bug and you figure out it wasn't your fault.
:wipes hands: not my problem.
 
@rlemon until you realize you have to write a hacky workaround
 
nope, I might have to patch some stuff for their fix, but it'll still be their fix.
 
Or you get to fix the bug in third party code because they CBA
 
5:46 PM
modbus has limitations on the data you can send.
they're sending me shit data
 
compiling
 
I thought you had this modbus data issue like months ago
 
I'm constantly having data issues
no one seems to want to follow standards
 
!!s/data/corn/
 
all the data is garbage
 
5:47 PM
@SterlingArcher I'm constantly having corn issues (source)
 
standards are for shmucks
 
that why it's so big
there's a giant data island forming in the pacific
 
@ssube more like there is a few competing 'standards' and no official standards org for modbus
 
so we have to try to support them all
 
5:48 PM
I do not miss non-standard connectors
old PC and car stuff sucked
 
thankfully it has been around for long enough that most people use one of a handful
 
@Webster do you do game dev professionally?
 
I'd love if we could move over to canbus
but doesn't seem like many other industry people are willing to take that on
!!afk vape
 
@Shmiddty nope i'm visiting from a design SE
i saw cornify be injhected onto other sites ... making them Corny
 
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5:55 PM
PHP? where do I sign
 
PHP, Java AND .net
 
mm, enterprise
 
I'll be blunt it's not exciting, but it's good pay, and stable af
 

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