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4:00 PM
Does it mean that ES7 is a current standard now? ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm
 
why does that spec have pictures?
who wants to cochampion a proposal to get pictures out of the spec?
 
Pictures?
 
Yaaay, my avatar updated.
....or not.
 
4:04 PM
@SterlingArcher the only thing better than porn is sex, but if you take pictures of sex, it becomes porn...
 
@SterlingArcher Aaaaand I'm hard
 
@ssube Remember, it's not prostitution if you're recording it for distribution. Then it's porn.
 
@Loktar I agree; there's a lot of unknowns that come with it. I just like the fact that it's open source, like Oculus originally promised to be before FB bought them
 
@Megaplex not getting into that
 
@ssube Wrong rabbit hole to be jumping down?
 
4:06 PM
@Megaplex that whole mess of holes, rabbit or otherwise, is the one thing I actually take super cereal
 
Can you hook the rift/vive to Maya and 3d model in 3d?
 
I know MS showed off some neat 3D sculpting stuff with the holo lens, but who knows what that will even look like exactly
 
@rlemon yes
also holo lens looks badass
wish the dev kit wasn't 8k lol
 
I have no idea what applications the HL has towards gaming, though. I mean, besides RTS maybe?
 
@Loktar ageeed
 
4:11 PM
Can you imagine playing Civ 6 on your kitchen table with holo lens?
 
@ndugger or any TW game
 
honestly anything
 
it would look like a real battle diorama
 
imagine shooting virtual people outside of your house
 
What's a battle?
 
4:11 PM
or in your house
home invasion simulator
zombie defense simulator
 
pls
zombie invasion simulator
 
let's be honest, it's going to be strategy games and porn
AR porn will be a hell of a thing
 
coloring your walls any color you want will be cool
 
@ssube strategy porn
 
nice test before painting
 
4:12 PM
@ndugger that's called Total War
 
k
 
@Loktar that's actually a really good idea
contractor comes over, measures your new deck, then shows you an AR render of it
 
yeah I think its something that would be totally doable too
 
it would make selling big projects so much easier
 
yea
 
4:13 PM
omg, chrome is driving me crazy. "haha, you wanted to see the network tab, but i'm gonna open a console pane, too and put it in front"
 
checking out how new appliances will look
or shit, if they will fit
lots of really cool uses
go to a store (or the internet) "download the ar model" go home and test it
 
AR will be super useful
 
@ssube "deck"
 
> How will [$1200 product] look in your home?
 
4:14 PM
haha
will TVs be a thing of the past?
you can just project on any wall you feel like
 
Most people don't watch shows on their TV anymore
 
or not even on a wall if you don't want to
 
watching tv while you do laundry, just throw it on the wall
or floating in midair
 
@Loktar We really need a resolution increase first
 
until we get actual holograms, AR will be the next best thing
 
4:15 PM
oh yeah for sure @VeronicaDeane
 
in a business meeting, trying to pitch a new car model or something
 
@ssube How do you know HoloLens isn't real holography?
 
@VeronicaDeane you need a headset
holographs that don't need a headset will be better
 
oh fuck not this again
 
We just need to invent the matrix
 
4:16 PM
Every hologram needs a screen to be displayed
 
don't get me wrong, AR is incredibly useful
@VeronicaDeane not in star wars noob
 
the HoloLens just has it attached to your face instead of a wall
@ssube That's not holography
 
@VeronicaDeane you're not holography
 
I'll graph your hole
graphle holo
the AR version of grapple hero
 
@Loktar yard work simulator
 
4:22 PM
Why are boring things no longer boring in VR
 
@VeronicaDeane Because now it's a gaaaaaaaaaame. Just like when you made shitty chores a game.
 
game? everyone knows a spoon full of sugar lsd and a catchy tune is how you make chores fun
 
@rlemon I didn't even know what LSD was until I was in high school.
 
@rlemon I remember that episode lol
 
@ndugger You mean as Ghandi goes ape shit and decides to nuke the entire world beneath your feet?
 
4:31 PM
@Megaplex apparently they're fixing that in 6
nations will have more than one leader, who behave differently
 
@ssube What? Nooo, that's one of the best things about Civ. :(
 
Why would they "fix" a feature?
 
@VeronicaDeane like a wookie on endor...
 
on windows10, npm keeps returning a warning and not installing packages
it looks like: pastebin.com/f3xvcdud
wat do? i'm stuck
it says warning, but it's failing to install gsap, or anything for that matter
 
4:35 PM
@bitten turn on verbose logging
 
same warning
 
anything useful in the debug/silly messages?
 
i don't think so
 
@SterlingArcher my resting heart rate is now down to 58... It's down more than 20bps since I started working out.
@Meredith ^
 
Mines at 58 too!
 
4:37 PM
that warning message is weird... it's a client lib, why would it have a module that complains about os compatibility,
 
Resting Heart Rate Bros
 
i didn't install chokidar, so i don't know which library is relying on it
@KevinB \o/
 
@KevinB one of the deps
 
@bitten try to stat C:\Users\no\AppData\Roaming\npm-cache\gsap\1.18.5\package\package.jso
 
4:38 PM
npm install --no-optional
 
@KevinB fsevents conflicts with almost every OS
not sure I've ever seen a system it didn't throw some warning on
 
what i mean is... gasp seems to be a client-side lib
 
@ssube And yet everyone freaking use it
For some reason I can't fathom.
 
why would it use it
 
@KevinB every package i try to install throws this error
@ssube sorry i don't follow, what are you suggesting?
i don't know what stat is
 
4:39 PM
@bitten fsevents is everywhere and will never install
@bitten see what kind of file exists at that path
 
ah i see. and it's not a dependency of gsap ofc
 
@KevinB my guess is bitten is fucking something else up github.com/greensock/GreenSock-JS/blob/master/package.json
 
okay i'll look
 
@SterlingArcher is that the fitbit?
 
try cleaning up npm
rm -rf ~/.npm && npm cache clear
 
4:41 PM
@BenFortune yup, it graphs all yo shit
 
then re-install everything
 
I think my resting is like 90, I'm probably going to die soon
 
@rlemon heh probably, i've just installed http, express, some gulp plugins, socket, and an event emitter
 
what version of npm
and what version of node
 
install npm!
 
4:42 PM
another good bet is npm is out of date
 
npm 3.7.3, node 5.9.1
 
@bitten You installed an event emitter?
 
node 5? wtf
 
@BenFortune yes, using npm
 
Why? Node has one built in
 
4:43 PM
@bitten upgrade to node 6 pronto
but not your issue
 
@BenFortune not a client side one?
 
/me uses node 0.12.9 at work :(
 
@bitten import EventEmitter from 'events';
events is part of the core utils
 
{ EventEmitter }
 
4:45 PM
don't have too
events default is EventEmitter
 
Hello all.
 
Really? D:
 
@rlemon well, i didn't know. either way, i use the above linked ^^
 
this changes everything
 
Tmux in atom?
Didn't even know atom had a terminal, or is it a package?
 
@ssube i'd cleared the cache so this file was no longer present
 
Well that's just fucking lovely
 
I'm working in a project that has a strange Javascript (?) call that I'm not familiar with. I'll share it here in hopes someone will know how to modify it's behavior. The code assigns positioning of a page object to a given element ID. Here's the code:
elementPosition({selectMove:'#TARGET_ID',moveTo:'#DESTINATION ID',moveIn:false});
 
I have the terminal-plus package set up to use tmux-like bindings
so it's ctrl-a t to open a terminal, ctrl-a c to create a new pane, etc
the first chord goes to atom, the rest to tmux
you can do the same thing with screen, looks like
 
@rlemon i've updated node, although.. same error
 
4:49 PM
I have no idea how that positioning code works, what routine it's calling. I can't find any reference to "elementPosition" online.
 
have i dun goofed somewhere
i'm going to try in a different dir
 
I take it tmux is better than screen?
 
@BenFortune I like it better, yeah. You can tweak it more, the panes/panels work better IMO
 
4:51 PM
did you update npm too?
 
@bitten there's no error.. npm ended with ok..
 
@cswl yeah, in a different directory it's fine
i goofed somewhere
 
the only thing relying on fsevents is chokidar
 
4:52 PM
@bitten it's for OSX only.. i think.. don't remember..
 
@SterlingArcher $2 a cable versus the $20 fitbit wants for one? No question.
 
So, OK here's an alternate question; if I want to use JavaScript or JQuery to move an element's position on the screen to the same position as some other element, how can I do that?
 
@cswl yes it is
 
user1596138
Anyone else want to face palm? reddit.com/r/Frontend/comments/29rkj4/…
 
user1596138
I know this is a year old lol but damn
 
4:55 PM
@ssube imgur.com/gallery/j6E06yo audi suspension ftw
 
@Josiah I do both, does that mean I should get the combined salary?
 
@Megaplex I'm a bit irritated that it has a proprietary port... There's no reason for it.
 
@SterlingArcher I want to find that highway
 
user1596138
@Megaplex Idk but hopefully you're not as uninformed as these people
 
@ssube 36 runs through roseville
 
4:56 PM
@ndugger I agree, which is why when fitbit wanted $20 for a cable I told them to bite my bag.
 
I know exactly where that is
 
@ndugger is that 36?
 
@ssube it says at the top of the video
 
@Josiah That was sarcasm based off the little bit of the thread I read.
 
36/Edgerton
 
user1596138
4:57 PM
@Megaplex I know I picked it up, lifted with my knees, it was heavy.
 
@Josiah Just like @VeronicaDeane's mom.
 
user1596138
The heaviest lol
 
@ndugger hm
it's been a while since I took my car off any sweet jumps
definitely got the evo in the air a few times tho
 

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