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12:02 AM
the places I have been, the intern time is usually 5% of the person assigned the intern. Though I have been places where interns are rounded up like cattle and giving their own little project and given, in a day, about 1-2 hours of direct supervision and the rest of the day is spent in the trenches of the project
 
12:45 AM
@corvid On the opposite end of the spectrum, we treat our interns like junior developers, and typically spend a lot more than 5% of our time with them, doing things like pair-programming on real tasks for our real product
I personally hate seeing co-ops or interns assigned phoney projects that are little more than busy work :|
 
the intern here is mostly writing tests for the application I am developing. Can't complain, I hate writing tests
 
-7
Q: Anybody interested in creating an independent group of StackOverflow users?

Travis BangerIs there enough interest in creating an independent group of StackOverflow users?

 
@rlemon Dafuq?
 
idk, dudes losing it
 
@rlemon any idea on the trigger when the div id "chat" finished loading on opening up a chat room on SO ?
 
12:51 AM
This site is based on getting free labor in exchange for being allowed to implement mob rule. — Travis Banger 28 secs ago
 
can't get the messages even with jQuery
 
@CSᵠ mutation observer?
 
yeah, but on load...
i don't care about new mutations...
 
yea, observe mutations on that element
 
damn
 
1:02 AM
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Q: "put on hold as unclear what you're asking"

Travis BangerWhat part of "Anybody interested in creating an independent group of Stack Overflow users?" Should I type r.e.a.l s.l.o.w?

lol
 
This is gold. Solid gold.
Maybe he's got a bet going with a friend to see who can lose the most rep in a day
 
You don't lose rep on meta
 
Holy crap. A major client just agreed to IE11+ browser support! This is the happiest day of my life...
 
is it a bad thing I'm getting entertainment from his mini meltdown on SO
?
 
I too am enjoying the collapse
 
1:07 AM
-2
Q: "Please stop, this is ridiculous and not constructive for anybody. "

Travis Banger"Please stop, this is ridiculous and not constructive for anybody. " Freedom of Lawful Assembly is ridiculous? Suppression of dissent is constructive?

@meagar
as I understand you're trying to instruct him for good
 
Hooray :(
 
@rlemon this guys is on a roll, but more, his posts are getting deleted faster and faster
 
@CSᵠ he's on a 3 day timeout now
 
@rlemon are you still here?!
 
no
this is all in your imagination
 
1:18 AM
@rlemon i see
@rlemon is this inception?
are you in my minds minds mind?
 
no, this movie doesn't suck.
 
(y)
** thumbs up **
Ok so back to my JS script issue!! Do you have a moment?
 
depends on the issue
 
I wanted to ask you about that website too....
@rlemon in your opinion, why do you think the website scrolls so slowly?
 
because they limit it
 
1:20 AM
@rlemon oh my god yes
 
Well, I've started to get that massive wave of emails/calls from recruiters... We all know how that is
 
nerp
I've gotten one email from a recruiter ever
 
One email started off like, "Greetings, contractor!"
Lucky you... they last for a long time
they just keep coming until you remove your resume online everywhere
 
@TimSalabim jsfiddle.net/s9a7rdLo/1/show like this
 
> Greetings, protractor!
 
1:22 AM
@rlemon Oh ok, so it's like a smooth scroll script or something?
 
yup
 
Great, not a bogged down crappy written website haha
 
says who
 
if they limit scroll, it is a crappy website :D
 
Haha coooooool do you know where to search for that setting?
just search mouse scroll in all code files or something? haha
 
1:23 AM
look for a scroll event listener
@TimSalabim pretty much yea
 
Ok I'll have a look in to it. I have read the selector information you gave me last night
Makes a lot more sense
 
good, glad you read it
 
I still can't get this script working...
It's really got me stumped...
Could you get it working in your own instance?
 
what script
 
@rlemon JavaScript
 
1:36 AM
One of the jobs that a recruiter is gonna try to land me is ffor this website: tech.pro/nickdugger#profile -- when he was describing it, I let out an audible sigh... "yay, another social network-esque site..." -- but the company culture seems to be what I'm looking for, so we'll see.
 
@NickDugger Why are you working with recruiters
 
I happen to like recruiters... Well, the right ones are great.
It's also easier... lol
 
This is where I am having the issue.... stackoverflow.com/questions/29491117/…
 
Houston doesn't have many great opportunities, so getting someone else to look with you is great.
if I was open to moving again right now, I'd do it without a recruiter
 
@rlemon this is what you showed me last night.... jsfiddle.net/rlemon/4d3114gz/1
 
1:39 AM
and how did you adapt it
 
@NickDugger what's tech.pro like?
 
@rlemon i'll show you mine i created
 
@SomeKittens I already found a bug and reported it. No idea, yet. Just joined. Doing some research into it just incase I land an interview
 
@rlemon ** adapted using yours
 
@NickDugger Good plan. Always nice to know what you can about a company
 
your selector was wrong
 
@rlemon I hate you.
 
@rlemon upon scrolling up the original doesn't display!?
 
because you don't set it.
 
i thought it was set....
uhhh
 
1:57 AM
img.dataset.orig = img.src; // using dataset is just being fancy. probably don't do this
you didn't read this ;)
 
ahhhhh!
@rlemon img.src = img.dataset.orig; // set the original image back
@rlemon i read that last night and removed it haha
 
mmmm vanilla coke zero
 
@rlemon this works. thank you
@rlemon could this method cause issues when replacing one icon with another due to dimension size?
 
yes?
 
so in wordpress the original image size is 4x the size of the logo as it's responsive...
testing now to see if the replacement image will still adhere to the same dimension rules!!
@rlemon +15 for helping haha
 
2:05 AM
urg, WordPress
 
urgh no good?
joomla
haha
 
Joomla is worse.
 
.NET is worse
All of it.
 
JavaScript is worse.
 
programming is worse
 
2:08 AM
Blasphemy!
 
@monners is worse.
 
Your mom's worse
 
My mom's dead.
 
sigh
 
!!s/e//
 
2:09 AM
:P
 
@SomeKittens My mom's dad. (source)
 
Joomla is king
(i really hate it haha)
 
I don't believe you
Sacrifice no less than 17 chickens to prove your resolve!
 
!!s/resolve/Promise.resolve/
 
@phenomnomnominal Sacrifice no less than 17 chickens to prove your Promise.resolve! (source)
 
2:14 AM
@rlemon this code still doesn't work
@rlemon works in testing... not on the live site.... SOME ELEMENT HATES ME!
 
@SomeKittens tweeting with one of the owners of that tech.pro website/company, and he asked for suggestions on how to improve a specific feature that I brought up. Is, "Maybe we can discuss it over an interview" too weird? I'm just trying to get my pinkie toe in the door, lol
 
@NickDugger Nah, that's actually really good
Does he know you're interviewing?
 
Nuhuh
 
hah, even better
 
God amazon one boxing is huge
anyway that is an amazing blue tooth keyboard
just got that today, has mouse buttons on the back as should buttons, its insane lol
I could probably use it as a primary mouse/kb
 
2:22 AM
Protip: Function.prototype.summon = Function.prototype.call makes your JS look way more badass.
 
lol
 
Don't forget to Function.prototype.call('mom'); every once in a while.
 
she tells me to Function.prototype.apply(sunscreen, ['arms', 'back', 'nose']); always :/
 
@SomeKittens he said, "haha, fair enough. I'll make sure to take a look!" -- just sounds like being nice :( lol
 
@NickDugger You're doing fine
 
2:30 AM
Everyone should just automatically want to hire me
 
Someone will
 
haha it fucking works.
!url forces onebox of images without a extension
 
bro
 
!url who
 
why when the cube is upside down its rotating the other side?
 
2:41 AM
This works here in the test http://jsfiddle.net/timsalabim/opek5mtz/
It does not work when implemented exactly the same in to the website http://www.templatemonster.com/demo/52089.html, I think I have tested it is firing too....
@rlemon.... do you see?
@rlemon i would like to hire you, though i can't afford it haha
 
probably not :P
 
haha
 
@TimSalabim Are you Australian?
 
Yes
 
Victoria?
All the cool kids live in Victoria
 
2:53 AM
Yes!
Though I work in Perth too
Are you in Vic?
 
Yep
 
help :(
 
Nooooice, where do you live?
 
Well now, that's a little personal
 
Lamesville.
 
2:54 AM
Rule No. 1... Don't give strangers your address
hahaha
I live in the Eastern Suburbs...
 
@phenomnomnominal Dude! Shut up!
Great, now everyone knows... sigh
 
Want to come over and hang out?
I'll put pants on....
 
he prefers them off
 
^
 
at least, whenever I visit
 
2:56 AM
@rlemon You're the only one, I promise
 
come to philippines
hahaha
 
No.
 
y?
 
No.
 
2:58 AM
@TimSalabim You work in an agency?
 
No! I'm in marketing though I helped a friend set this up!
Do you?
 
Marketing? Marketing??
Get out.
 
Hahaha
I am learning html, js, css etc
And have made a few sites, hence helping my partner put together a few websites
 
Hopefully so one day you can get out of marketing
 
Correct
Digital marketing which stemmed from being an IT network engineer
 
3:05 AM
Fair enough, at least you're likely to know a thing or two about what you're selling
Which, surprisingly, isn't a common trait amongst the marketers I know
 
I only got in to it from the tech side and wanted to step away from providing full managed IT services... what a headache!!
What about you?
 
I should print 100 copies of my resume, and run around downtown and throw them at fancy looking cars as they drive by
 
That's just smart
 
I'm starting to really enjoy FTL
 
You're hired
 
3:07 AM
It's one of the funnest games to lose
 
@nickdugger
 
yes, that's me
 
What does a vegan zombie eat? GrainzzZZzz
 
@KendallFrey Nerd
 
@KendallFrey FTL is great man
 
3:08 AM
@rlemon Know what a dyslexic zombie eats?
 
Why, thank you
 
although the way they troll you in it is frustrating.
 
@Loktar :?
 
@rlemon I gave you kudos in my last post. thank you for your help
 
@rlemon is our god
 
3:09 AM
I've kind of got the don't-fuck-up-and-instantly-lose strategy down pat
 
not the kind you take home to meet mom, though
 
Briiiiiiaaaaans
 
@SomeKittens lol
 
have never made it to the last sector yet
 
@KendallFrey haha yeah its a rough game
 
3:10 AM
Is it against policy here to offer someone cash to help??
 
used to be one of my fav workout shirts.
 
lol
 
@Loktar It's just like KSP, right? should be a piece of cake :P
 
haha except its totally freaking random
so you have little control :/
I love naming my crew after people I know
makes the game more enjoayble
 
My last run was not so great by the end
I never picked up decent weapons, so I was going up against 3-shield ships with the base weapons
 
3:13 AM
hey anyone can help me with this :(
 
Maybe I should name my kerbals after people I know
people I dislike
then maybe I'd have the guts to kill them
 
recommendations on Balsamiq-like mockups (but free/less complicated)?
 
@monners are you in an agency?
 
@SomeKittens moqups?
 
@NickDugger Nice
 
3:17 AM
Ouch, I guess it's paid now? It didn't used to be... I think... or we just never paid... lol
 
Should I get the latest Humble Bundle?
 
> Can't decide? The Free Plan includes 2 projects (limited to 300 objects) and 5MB of storage to get you started.
 
Huh, I guess I have a free account somehow
Oh
makes sense
 
@KendallFrey if you don't have Torchlight 2 its great
Contraption maker is also cool
 
I don't, what is it, I don't like the font
 
3:19 AM
TL2 is like diablo
 
I was kinda drooling over contraption maker though
 
@SomeKittens really old wireframe on my account lol moqups.com/ndugger/FAW4pmEm (go to the next page, first one is blank-ish)
 
if you like arpgs its great
 
I don't see that being enough fun though
and not a fan of rpgs in general
 
yeah I suppose I played it with a group of friends as well which made it funner
 
3:20 AM
ah, yeah, friends must be fun
 
Contraption maker is probably worth it alone though
its like $7 on Steam
 
They should have a Humble Friends Bundle
 
so you pay a little less and get a bunch of other games
 
@Loktar is there anything actually fun in it?
Can you make a computer
 
theres puzzles, and you can make your own crazy stuff
haha idk actually, maybe?
 
3:21 AM
@NickDugger nice
 
Did you ever play the Incredible Machine games?
 
@KendallFrey They had a coop bundle
 
lol yeah a few times on dosbox
 
its a spiritual successor
 
@Loktar YES
 
3:22 AM
@SomeKittens have you heard of Contraption Maker?
 
@SomeKittens mm, I may have gotten that one? idk
 
If you like the incredible machine youd like it
 
I have a couple giftable games in my inventory
 
but yeah idk that makes the humble bundle worth the $6.02
Pixel Piracy I hear is good and bad.. lots of mixed feelings on that one so idk
 
It would put me over 100 games...
 
3:23 AM
I personally have never played it
 
Stop laughing Loktar
 
lemings?
 
@KendallFrey One Whole Hundred!! Saweet!
Thats almost half of the games i have on gog alone! :P
 
@Loktar nope, looks good
 
I SAID STOP *anti-caprica
 
3:24 AM
HAMMERTIME
 
@NickDugger I love lemmings
 
@NickDugger gtfucko
 
Shadow Warrior worth it?
 
I havent played it, but it has awesome reviews/ratings
 
@Loktar have you seen TB's video on Bad Rats?
so hilarious
 
3:25 AM
also he is singing Stan Bush in the trailer.. You got the Touch from the transformers animated movie... so that means it has to be good :P
@KendallFrey haha I have not, but that game is notoriously bad
 
@KendallFrey back to my droneship
 
oh on that note, Total Biscuit is in total remission
 
Do you know of any way to have docking ports attached in the VAB?
 
My sunburn was so out of control a couple of days ago, the whole tope layer of skin on my forehead peeled away. Now it's really smooth
 
so that was good to hear.
 
3:26 AM
@Loktar Oh good!
 
@SomeKittens are you high?
oh, whoops
lol
 
@KendallFrey No, the VAB is at ground level.
 
I read as "attached to the VAB"
 
@KendallFrey Let's launch the VAB!
 
yep, docking ports attach just fine, but the attachment node is only on the top bit
...you're high
 
3:27 AM
@KendallFrey Nah, stole that one from reddit
What I'm left with from last night
Couldn't get the docking ports to attach
 
Also, beware, docking ports are notoriously flexible, and I'd only launch small payloads on top of them, and only the sr. docking ports
 
Haven't unlocked Sr
Correction ^
 
if you rotate them to be face to face they should snap together
 
why doesn mutatipon observer see a new chat message ?
 
Good evening, everyone, I have a quick question that I haven't been able to find an answer to online. I am doing some validation on a form using an .on("blur") jquery function. This validation removes the default "invalid" class I have applied to inputs. But randomly some of the validation isn't firing. I have emailed myself results, and there seems to be no real pattern as to which blanks do this.
I was wondering if because I set it on a blur event, if autofill/autocomplete could be failing to trigger the js?
 
3:36 AM
0
Q: JavaScript Scroll Script - Fires in test, not on dev site

Tim SalabimMy script to replace the logo upon scroll works here in the test 'http://jsfiddle.net/timsalabim/opek5mtz/` <!-- Logo Scroll --> var img = document.querySelector('.logo_h__img img'); // get the element img.dataset.orig = img.src; // dataset document.addEventListener('scroll', function (e) { //...

 
@KendallFrey another dumb question - is there a way to switch control without going back to KSC?
 
map view > click > switch to
oh, also [ and ]
to switch between ships in loading range
useful when docking
 
I have posted 2 comments on my nomination that I hope will clarify my position.
 
@rlemon i got this from my dev console.... Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'dataset' of null(index):157 (anonymous function)
 
@KendallFrey oooh, very useful
 
3:48 AM
yeah, so easy I forgot it existed at first
 
nothing like a bit of interface fuckery to make 3rd party shit work with typescript...
 
add it to DefinatelyTyped :)
 
It's there already, but I needed a mock that implemented an interface
 
@luggage i had a look, what does that mean?
 
3:56 AM
That's showing you your error.
Cannot read property 'dataset' of null
 
Mmm mine came up in chrome dev but either way i can't figure this out
Did you look at my post? @luggage
 
The SO question?
 
SO ??
 
stack overflow
 
@luggage sorry I was supposed to paste above
 
4:02 AM
Is that the exact code you are using on the wordpress site?
because document.querySelector('.logo_h__img img') returns null.
 
Yes the exact same.... but it works here..... jsfiddle.net/timsalabim/opek5mtz
 
your error, TypeError: Cannot read property 'dataset' of null, means that the object that you are trying to access 'dataset' form is null
and that object is var img.
and document.querySelector('.logo_h__img img') is returning null when I try it in the console..
 
why does this work in the jfiddle then?
 
ohh, wrong frame
 
 
4:07 AM
@luggage "wrong frame" sorry what is?
 
That template site has multiple frames. I was in the wrong one when I ran document.querySelector('.logo_h__img img') in the console.
 
Oh ok!
@luggage - Can I create a new selector for <img > so it can be called?
 
I showed you what the error means and gave a possible explanation (can't find element).
Confirm that. Check if img is null.
if it's null, confirm the name of the class (logo_h__img)
 
that is the name of the class....
How do I check if image is null ?
img exists!
 
the img variable in the code.
 
4:17 AM
yes it is there...
 
is it null?!
 
How do I know!?
 
If you can't find out what's in a variable, then I can't help.
console.log it
put a break point
 
I really don't know how...
Will do anything just need a little instruction please
 
@KendallFrey In a vaccum, should I be more worried about specific impulse or deltaV?
or is that a really dumb question
 
4:33 AM
@luggage any idea what to google?
 
@TimSalabim Google javascript debugger statement
 
added....
 
4:48 AM
what is drugs?
 
Rocketile Disfunction.
 
@monners @luggage <script type="text/javascript">

function

var img = document.querySelector('.logo_h__img');
img.dataset.orig = img.src;
document.addEventListener('scroll', function (e) {
if (document.body.scrollTop > 0) {
img.src = img.dataset.scroll;
} else {
img.src = img.dataset.orig;
}
});

() {
debugger;

}
</script>
 

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