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7:01 PM
:<
 
Is that thing going into space?
 
no, it's going into your mom
 
aah u got me
:d
 
Is it just me or is spacex.com down?
 
MLM
@SterlingArcher Works for me
 
7:04 PM
Me too
 
@SterlingArcher isup.me/spacex.com
 
I love the guys' voice.
It's so musical.
 
MLM
@SterlingArcher It isn't live yet but it is also streaming on YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=csVpa25iqH0
 
7:07 PM
how cool would it be if KSP rockets smoked like that before launch
 
To insert oogly eyes into comments like this (-)(-)Jongware 58 secs ago
 
20 mins ago, by rlemon
foo(/* inside here is an expression right? */)
related, and unanswered
 
@SterlingArcher nice nips
 
when is spaceX launch today?
 
7:10 PM
Anybody using ReactJS?
 
@NickDugger 4:10 (1 hour)
 
so, 3:10 for us CST chaps
 
[].find is not available on chrome :(
 
s/CST /assless-/
 
yes
 
7:14 PM
!!mdn array.find
 
@KendallFrey How many stages do you generally have on your more successful ships?
 
@Catgocat check mdn, scroll to polyfill
remove once native support lands
 
user1596138
I'm like crying
 
next time watch when you zip up then
 
user1596138
7:16 PM
I just got my offer lol
 
user1596138
@Loktar
 
depends where I'm going, often 4 or 5 counting descent stages
 
if i was smarter, I'd have loved to work for spaceX and Elon Musk
 
@Jhawins so proud man 2.8
 
@Jhawins sweeeet
that was fast man
grats
 
user1596138
7:17 PM
That was so fast
 
@Jhawins but now you can't bitch about your employer online any more :P @Loktar will beat yo ass
 
haha nah idc
 
user1596138
Oh I don't bitch bout the hand that feeds me throws piles of money at me
 
but... technically he wont be able to with the docs we have to sign :(
one of them has a clause about that
 
J: My boss is such a turd
Loke: dude, I'm your boss
 
7:18 PM
about posting negative stuff about the company
 
user1596138
Wait I can bitch about @Loktar right..?
 
nah I'm not his boss lol
I'm just the technical lead
 
it is funnier in my head to think that
 
user1596138
We jus cant date now?
 
stop pissing on my parade!
 
7:18 PM
lol yeah that would be funny/weird
 
@KendallFrey Damn... I usually have like 6, just to orbit earth...
 
@Jhawins so you moving or remote?
 
user1596138
Holy shit tho I have like a month to do everything I have left to do here haha
 
@rlemon moving to the great state of KNNNEEEEbraska
 
BOOOOO
 
7:19 PM
To be fair, I'm still really early in, and I'm in science mode, so I don;t have all the toys yet
 
remote means you no longer have to wear pants
ever
 
nebraska still exists?
 
I want to be remote
 
@NickDugger 2 to get into orbit is usually good
 
but not to nebraska
 
user1596138
7:21 PM
You usually don't expect a company to respond with a higher offer, right? // no reason
 
@KendallFrey I've generally had one huge one to break most of the gravity, and then two more to get into space, one to get my trajectory on point, and one more for a maneuver. I'm bad...
 
to get into orbit I have one stage for solid boosters, then around 10000 I release those and the next stage is liquid rockets that take me to full orbit. then I release that and have one last rocket to do nothing with because I suck at KSP
 
user1596138
Shit I'm gonna be a real boy now
 
@Jhawins haha well you learned a lesson
 
I'm really bad with liquid rockets...
 
7:21 PM
ask for even more next time :p
 
mark your books everyone: @Jhawins is growing up
 
user1596138
Hahaha yes sir
 
all of my successful ones have been with solid fuel
 
soon he's gonna be in suspenders and wing toed shoes.
 
i hate solid fuel
 
7:21 PM
lol
 
user1596138
I'm gonna be close enough to ride to the mountains now!!
 
I can't even get into space with jsut liquid boosters...
 
@KendallFrey in KSP does rocket fuel melt steel beams?
 
I cant wait to hear what @Jhawins says about the area.. its pretty surprising actually
 
I must be doing it all wrong lol
 
7:22 PM
like its nicer than people expect
 
@SterlingArcher it's not acid ffs
 
I've seen pics
it looks nice
 
user1596138
lol I honestly think my area is really nice. We will see
 
Does this mean @Loktar can now whoop @Jhawins ass for us as needed?
 
yes
@Loktar has guns as well
 
7:22 PM
@SterlingArcher it can break parts off of your ship if they're in the way
 
user1596138
And vice versa
 
user1596138
Well we'll have fights
 
@J better not fuck around
 
I've had wings just disappear lol
 
psh I'm a little dude
cant wait to meet @Jhawins and he is taller than me
 
user1596138
7:23 PM
We'll wrestle for room meeting topics?
 
and way younger
 
I wanna come play D:
 
@Jhawins Did you get an official job offer?
 
user1596138
That's kinda weird thought actually.
 
But I can't move to nebraska lol
 
7:23 PM
!!s/'m/ like/
 
@KendallFrey psh I like a little dude (source)
 
user1596138
Yes, I got an official job offer like 10 minutes ago.
 
!!s/ude//
 
Awesome!
 
@rlemon @KendallFrey psh I like a little d (source) (source)
 
7:23 PM
@SterlingArcher nobody can! it's not a real place!
 
@KendallFrey dang lol
 
user1596138
I interviewed Friday
 
You gonna be moving, then?
 
user1596138
Yes I suppose haha
 
Nice
 
7:24 PM
So @Jhawins and @Loktar are going to be working together?
 
I'm assuming you'll be making a heck of a lot more money than your current shitjob?
 
> "working"
 
!!s/working/cuddling/
 
@rlemon "cuddling" (source)
 
what sort of place do you work, @Loktar?
 
7:24 PM
dammit @SterlingArcher
 
!!s/working/pranking/
 
@Shmiddty !!s/pranking/cuddling/ (source)
 
ninja'd but it worked
 
lol
 
@ssube I don't know how to describe it.. its not fully corporate, but not startup either
 
7:24 PM
@Loktar day one: snipe him all fucking day long with foam rockets.
 
its a good mix of the two types
 
@ssube a workplace
 
like, wait for him to leave the bathroom. BAM! rocket in the face! meetings over. from behind the laptop, BOOM rocket in the face.
 
its way more lax than my gov jobs
 
day 2, plant grass seeds in his keyboard
 
user1596138
7:25 PM
@NickDugger Monthly pay ~= weekly
 
but a bit more strict than the startup I worked at
 
user1596138
Cause I work in rural Indiana haha.
 
@Jhawins So... essentially making 4x?
 
I really liked weekly pay, TBH
 
Hey dudes, can you help me decipher what the difference between dependencies and module is. I thought it was similar. I'm trying to understand what this is saying here.

Here is the text:
"Another solution is to wrap the code that makes up your module in a function so that the module loader can first load its dependencies in the background and then call the function, initializing the module, when the dependencies have been loaded. That is what the Asynchronous Module Definition (AMD) module system does."
 
user1596138
7:25 PM
Yea... somethin like that.
 
Wow. That's great
 
@ApathyBear If module A depends on or uses module B, module B is a dependency of module A
 
@Loktar I mean what kind of software?
 
user1596138
Doesn't feel real lol
 
@ssube oh backend is .net
 
7:27 PM
@Jhawins hanging around Jaden?
 
@Jhawins So this is your first dev job?
 
user1596138
But I did do really good in that interview lol.
 
but the front end is seperate, currently react besides the legacy stuff which is mostly just JQ
 
user4330208
So when you guys are using unobtrusive Javscript how do you usually give elements events? I'm thinking of going with "addEventListener()"
 
user4330208
I wanna hear it from the pros themsevles
 
user1596138
7:27 PM
@Shmiddty basically. First real one.
 
addEventListener would be the recommended way to listen for events
 
user1596138
I've honestly done a lot of stuff here tho.
 
@Shmiddty thanks.
 
@Jhawins With salary and benefits and all of that? It's a big step. Grats!
 
fuck man @Jhawins you are lucky
 
7:28 PM
My first real dev job was pretty awful, but I learned a lot
 
user4330208
Thanks Lemon. If it came from your mouth then its true
 
I was just thinking what I would do at 20 making that.
 
user1596138
Hahaha I know right
 
Single.. 20.. world at your fingertips dude.
 
user1596138
Dude I'm freaking out over what I'm gonna do I have no idea
 
7:28 PM
lol
 
I started at like $22k annual. Working and going to school full time. It was too much for me to handle
 
user1596138
I'm gonna buy a new bike lol and eat food?
 
My first dev job was for a startup that went terribly. I was miserable for 2 years... I was angry for another year after that. My current job has been a dream in comparison, but It's still not where I need to be.
 
user1596138
There's gonna be way too much left :O I'll have to find new things haha
 
lol
 
7:29 PM
@Shmiddty what exactly does it mean to initialize a module. What does initialization consist of?
 
@Jhawins give me your extra money
 
In that nasa stream, the timer in the right corner - is it the time left to launch?
 
@ApathyBear If you're looking for a code sample, that depends on what pattern you're following. Most commonly, you'll probably see something like module.exports = {...}
 
user1596138
@NickDugger I will buy monopoly money and send it to you
 
user4330208
Really deep question: I'm working on a site that allows users to edit code in real time and see results in an Iframe( like Codepen ). I'm using Code Mirror for syntax highlighting, but how do I get the user entered code to update in real time like CodePen? Do I need PHP for this?
 
7:30 PM
no pls
 
@Jhawins, congrats!
 
There's your module initialization
 
@carb0nshel1 you don't need PHP for anything
 
@jhawins Make sure you max out your 401K contributions so you don't "miss" that money
 
user4330208
...
 
user4330208
7:31 PM
Well do I need a Server Side language or can I do with just JS
 
That was deep.
 
time flies. I feel like I should be in a wheelchair on a beach somewhere soon
 
user4330208
lol
 
Them feeling
 
!!tell carb0nshel1 mdn iframe.srcdoc
 
user4330208
i knew id get trolled here man
 
because you often troll here
 
Look for "srcdoc"
 
user4330208
i was born a troll i guess. its just my mo
 
It's not troll
it's MDN
:)))
 
7:33 PM
@carb0nshel1 Then stop it
 
user4330208
?
 
user4330208
I just asked a question
 
That's fine, and I even answered. The "stop it" is with regards to general trolling.
 
Anybody use CodeAnywhere.com? Free DevBox VM seems shoddy so far
 
@carb0nshel1 I am also a troll. You will learn, in time, when trolling is appropriate.
 
7:35 PM
@taco That seems interesting
 
@Catgocat it'd be more interesting if it worked :d
 
user4330208
Thanks Smiddt. I want to learn your ways.
 
And if it was free
 
It's free
 
oh
 
7:35 PM
for the 256MB RAM VM with 2GB disk space
 
Hi Guys!
 
deepcake
 
o/
 
but it's only worked once so far, and I'm not sure how to get the web server started
 
How are you?
 
user4330208
7:36 PM
@Zirak just read through this but theres not an explanation for updating an iframe on keypresss in another window
 
Seems "oversold".... way too slow
 
@carb0nshel1 you can't get events from other windows, unless you catch them in the window and pass a message (postMessage)
 
@carb0nshel1 As said, look for srcdoc, and think.
 
user4330208
I'm going to try asking on 4Chan and reddit to see what I turn up
 
@taco Is that even useful, I mean that codenowhere?
 
7:37 PM
...see, like that was unnecessary, and discourages me (and maybe others) from helping you
 
user4330208
I've been viewing source on codePen like crazy
 
So then read other articles
 
@Emobe Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
1 - Stop trying to hack it
2 - Google it
 
@Catgocat Doesn't seem like it so far
 
user4330208
7:38 PM
all those $$$$'s get in the way though
 
@taco I mean when it worked
 
Are you guys free? I have a question about animation.
 
Don't ask to ask just ask
 
no, I'm paid
I'm not some cheap bimbo
 
and there is also that ^
 
7:39 PM
and if your question is about jquery animate, the answer is to not use jquery animations.
 
@NickDugger cheap bimbos get paid, but not much.
 
Not use jQuery at all.
 
@Catgocat it hasn't worked. For the free Codeanywhere acount, you get a temporary hostname and it hasn't served a page yet (it times out after a while, so you can't use it as a web server). I used it once the other day for 20 minutes. I've come back and now it doesn't work at all.
 
@taco May I ask you what you were planning to use it for?
 
7:40 PM
testing MEAN
 
Haha
 
Well played.
 
It was supposed to be a 1-click type thing, lol @Catgocat. I'd be better off with a local git clone and be done
 
@taco Eh
 
7:42 PM
@taco You have git.. And if you are a student you can have a discount (git private for free).
 
I am using reqAnimFramw to draw to canvas, and I want to alternate the image used on the canvas, to animate a character as if he is running. What would be the best way to make the image switch periodically?

Have a count of frames and when they reach a certain value e.g. 100, set the count to zero and swap the imaged used, e.g from left to right.

Or

SetInterval flicking a boolean variable back and forth every 0.75 seconds and choose the image depending on what that boolean is
 
I just have two servers for $5 a month each
One for staging, one for production
 
I have free GIT for 8 years.
Before graduation :)
 
@Catgocat And then... Git stopped being free?
 
I mean the paid plans.
 
7:43 PM
@Catgocat Git doesn't have paid plans.
 
@Deep the last one, because it will be consistent between different frame rates
 
It does.
 
Are you confusing with GitHub?
 
@Catgocat it doesn't
 
Yes GitHub.
 
7:43 PM
@Catgocat Git !== GitHub
 
I have a free cloud server, and a free employee server. I just wanted to try codeanywhere. Bleh.
 
Git is the tool, GitHub is just a host.
 
@SecondRikudo what sort of servers?
 
I know
 
@ssube VPS
 
7:43 PM
Alright, Thank you @KendallFrey! <3
 
2GB RAM
 
what isp?
 
It was a writing shortcut
 
@SecondRikudo I actually had a coworker whom didn't know the difference. It was strange.
 
;)
 
7:43 PM
where did you get 2GB for $5?
 
@ssube VPS Nodes
 
going price is $10/gb
 
Hey Afonso Matos, we have awesome news...

We've upgraded you to a Micro plan
 
@Catgocat that's like using Java as a shortcut for JavaScript.
 
^
 
7:44 PM
@KendallFrey Ok blame me
 
I am :)
 
@NickDugger I think it was @KendallFrey who told the store of the coworker who deleted his .git directory because he thought github was down because something he did.
 
@SomeKittens
 
@KendallFrey It's also like using hoe to your mom
 
7:46 PM
@SecondRikudo The week we switched to gitlab here, one of the new guys kept showing up at standups and saying "I think I broke gitlab." That was after we warned all the devs that ops was doing network maintenance and we were enabling ssl, so URLs would be changing.
 
@KendallFrey right :D
!!wheatly
 
> Unchecked runtime.lastError while running storage.set: QUOTA_BYTES_PER_ITEM quota exceeded
 
WHEATLY!!!!
 
7:46 PM
XDDD
 
FAAAAKKKKKKK
 
@SomeKittens ^
 
!!wheaton
 
@Shmiddty That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: wheatly
 
@SecondRikudo sync'd storage has to go :(
 
7:46 PM
@SecondRikudo Is that win, linux?
I bet it is linux
 
@Catgocat linux
 
@rlemon nuuuuuu!
 
you only get 8kb
 
@rlemon Wait, hohld on
What are you storing exactly that takes more than 8k per entry?
 
all I store is a user key and their hex value (as well as your options)
 
7:47 PM
I've never had contact with linux :(
 
so options will be sync'd
user colors will not
10ms longer to load the page basically
:P
 
Where is @SomeKittens anyway
 
@Catgocat Install Ubuntu today.
 
user4330208
On snap!!! Thats pretty beast. We can type HTML directly into the srcdoc!
 
or I'll just refactor so only custom values get saved
currently all do
 
user4330208
7:48 PM
All I have to do is update that attribute with JS
 
user4330208
TOO EASY
 
@SecondRikudo I feel more comfortable with win
 
@Catgocat Screw what you feel comfortable with. Install Ubuntu today.
 
Well, I can't really say that because I have never tried to me comfortable with ubuntu..
 
personally I think a web developer should be comfortable with linux, at least, to the effect that they will need it for their job.
 
7:49 PM
I'm kidding :P But seriously, you really should experience linux.
 
!!learn wheaton "<>http://i.imgur.com/m4vpNep.gifv"
 
@Shmiddty My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
 
user4330208
Thanks @Zirak. You are a Scholar.
 
@Shmiddty learn
 
@Shmiddty Command wheaton learned
 
7:49 PM
!!wheaton
 
I'm not a fan of linux, but give me an ubuntu machine, and I'm comfortable enough to do on there what I do on windows
 
I could install it in a VM..
 
I wanna build a java server and build a java game
 
7:49 PM
@Catgocat you can install Ubuntu on a flash drive and run it from there
8/16GB of storage is plenty.
 
@rlemon gifvs really should be autoplay/loop
 
@SterlingArcher I wanna cut your balls off
 
@SterlingArcher a) do it; b) don't copy me
 
Except I'm not sure if a $5 DO drop can handle that. Java takes like 500mb of ram
 
user1596138
I actually can't even do 401K benefits
 
7:50 PM
This summer I'll use linux to get used to it :)
 
user1596138
Until I'm 21 hahaha
 
@Shmiddty raise an issue - I can't remember what people say to me in here when I actually work on it, so I work from the issue queue
 
@ssube lol I already have a game in mind, but I don't know graphics
 
It makes me look more like a hacker I like it.
 
user1596138
I got a job with 401K shit that I'm too young to use
 
7:50 PM
@SterlingArcher don't run a game on DO or Linode. They charge for bandwidth overages.
Those can get hella spensy
 
@SterlingArcher I just posted 2GB RAM box for $5/mo
 
oh it would just be a dev server
@SecondRikudo it said xmas special, assumed it ended
 
@Catgocat why put it off.
download ubuntu now
download virtual box
 
@SterlingArcher It's xmas all year long bro :D
 
experience the joys
 
7:51 PM
oh baby!
 
If you're near seatle or atlanta, ramnode.com/vps.php has a special right now
 
why the spam for unbuntu?
 
@Robbiegod Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Ubuntu is oxygen for you people
 
Tiiiiiiiis the season for NullPointers fa-la-la-la-la, la la la laaa
 
7:52 PM
Ubuntu is going to be easy to deploy with a hella lot of support - which is why I recommend it to someone new to linux. (cc @Robbiegod
 
@Catgocat more like CO2. You can see it, smell it, but it will still kill you.
 
@Catgocat After a month of trying Ubuntu, I never wanted to boot windows again
 
CentOS forever (because that's how long they take to patch it).
 
Does anyone use Magnific PopUp?
 
@SterlingArcher If you are planning on graphics, I highly recommend Fortran.
 
7:52 PM
@ssube Yeah, if I wanted to install Java 6, PHP 5.3 and Python 1 by default, I'd go with CentOS
 
@SterlingArcher libgdx
 
I hate yum
 
@SecondRikudo They have Java 8, I think.
 
I DONT KNOW ANY OF THIS
 
just terrible.
 
7:53 PM
@ssube Not by default.
 
@SecondRikudo They don't have any Java by default, because Java is never a sensible default. :p
 
Nope. Yum will install the "most stable" version, and by that, it means the version from 10 years ago someone forgot to EOL.
 
because yum sucks :D
 
but yum, on a fairly standard image, definitely has java 8 now
 
@ssube It "has" everything
 
7:54 PM
@ssube after you change to the better rhel repos?
 
1.8.0.31, by RedHat's versioning scheme, so something further up by Oracle's
 
I did manage to set up PHP 5.6 (at the time) with Postgres with a decent version and all
 
@SterlingArcher I was kidding about Fortran though.
 
@rlemon nope
 
It's just that you need to jump serious hoops to get there
 
7:54 PM
I assumed so lol
 
@ssube latest centOS I have is 6, and I very much dislike it
 
@SecondRikudo ^
 
@rlemon they added java 7 the same time centos 7 came out, and java 8 shortly after
 
I wish I had friends I could develop games with that we could be in the same room or a bar
I'm the only software guy I know :(
 
7:55 PM
@SterlingArcher move to Canada bro
 
redhat does not, by any means, come up with stuff quickly
 
we can lift AND code together
 
@ssube OR you can just deploy Debian and save yourself ALLLLLLLLLL the trouble.
 
any major patches or any security-related gets backported day-of
 
@ssube debian is worse
 
7:55 PM
everything else comes out a lot later
 
@SterlingArcher I know the pain.
 
@SecondRikudo I absolutely hate how fragmented their packages are (everything is an extra) and the whole service model on debian.
 
debian release schedule is once a leapyear right?
 
I wish dude. I have a family that would drive me nuts if I moved more than 50 miles away
 
Debian is simply awful and Ubuntu is plain unusable.
 
7:56 PM
15 minutes till launch
 
@SterlingArcher My family and friends reject my interest for computers.
 
CentOS is slow to update but almost always works in the most predictable, boring way.
 
@ssube I 100% disagree (about ubuntu, 75% about debian)
 
@JoshuaLonganecker Holy shit.
 
7:57 PM
Are games the heaviest thing on processing power?
 
@StevensHaen simulations
 
@SterlingArcher giggity giggity
 
@rlemon ubuntu is debian, nerfed. The few things debian can actually do have been removed or hidden behind a "service" in ubuntu.
 
@JoshuaLonganecker Someone doesn't know what the C in CSS means.
 
7:57 PM
@JoshuaLonganecker ew.
 
@ssube yea I'm aware
 
hell, used to be you couldn't even install ubuntu without a ui
 
user406009
@StevensHaen For a consumer, probably yes.
 
Ubuntu is at least updated regularly.
 
i came late to the party but i assume it's generated via the CMS they're using
 
7:58 PM
I imagine you can now, but still. This is linux, why would you want a desktop?
 
@StevensHaen while(true) it worse.
 
@JoshuaLonganecker no, that looks like less/sass input :/
 
@Lalaland I'm not talking about astronomy calculations in NASA.
 
@JoshuaLonganecker Ew, generated CSS
 
everyone is go, just launch that bitch
 
7:58 PM
@JoshuaLonganecker Time to refactor
 
@rlemon s/regularly/without rhyme, reason, or regression testing/
 
@KendallFrey KSP?
 
@ssube meh, hate all you like.
 
also TIL that knowing Adobe AEM and Java can earn you $120/hr
 
@SecondRikudo SpaceX
 
7:58 PM
I don't see the issues I have on other distro's with ubuntu
it is best for me
suck it green boy
 
RH-based distros are for people choking on their ties, Debian-based distros are for people choking on their long hair.
 
silently wonders if I can get @rlemon banned if I flag his green boy insult
 
I mean, @rlemon is the original green boy
 
i'm not just refactoring, i'm going to burn it all down
 

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