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7:00 PM
@Deepak you take it if you go to college
 
Ah thats what I meant
 
but its not mandatory
 
so the only real point of review is at the very end, when it's too late
 
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They are sectioned exactly the same as you would picture a public school. The only difference is most homeshcool organizations are county-wide instead of having multiple organizations for each school district but in denser areas they have more and split by location.
 
I had the perfect flow
 
7:00 PM
@Jhawins it was a state deal where I was, because nobody used it
 
like in England you have to take Key stages throughout your life and something like A Levels to get into uni
 
@Jhawins makes sense. seems like it would be harder to organize (practices and all )
 
Homeschool -> placement test for college -> had college credits was allowed to get into the USAF
 
user1596138
Yeah you can also take ACT SAT pretty much any standard test.
 
no diploma or degree
livin the life! :P
 
7:00 PM
@Loktar o/
 
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@rlemon That's why the backbone is christianity.. It's necessary to have a religious backbone the way ours are run or things would just fall apart.
 
I should take the GED test at some point
 
user1596138
Which is like I said where things get weird.
 
but haven't had a need to yet
 
user1596138
I graduated. I will order a physical diploma if I ever need it.
 
7:01 PM
@Loktar nahh man, we're "bums" are we're proud!
 
@Jhawins youd be surprised
everyone expects you to just have one
I've never been asked to show my diploma
 
I've never once been asked <- same as loke
 
user1596138
We have a giant graduation ceremony each year for each organization too. You go up on stage and everyone tries to make it as big of a deal as public school, except we have more food I think.
 
I don't lie, but no one has ever asked.
so why disclose
 
yeah Im pretty open about it after I get a job
usually surprises people
 
7:02 PM
is there any way to make the variable container here dynamic? like on pageload it has the value $("#splashModal") jsfiddle.net/meyafsxL
 
I just shut my mouth. if they ask, sure. if they don't ask, why would I tell them? none of there business really
 
user1596138
lol right. I was explaining this to my girlfriend last week that she won't need the diploma in physical terms (she is also homeschooled.. Well she is in a type of assisted homeschooling but technically she is homeschooled but her organization has a physical school building and classes and a gym and everything)
 
like, I wouldn't walk into a club and be like "wuddup I got a big c*ck" :P
 
Its good that everything you code forms a makeshift CV
 
7:04 PM
@dystroy gravatar.
 
I dunno about you guys, but I've got better than even odds my lack of college degree comes up.
 
@Deepak I worked for a reputable elearning company in my sr year of HS
rocked that for 4.5 years
 
@SomeKittens lol really?
 
user1596138
Her school has teachers and staff on payroll. But she is still technically just homeschooled. Her situation is kinda interesting.
 
that pretty well got me every job henceforth
 
7:04 PM
Well I word my resume creatively
 
Or how would I code this so that $("#splashModal") is also a valid container? jsfiddle.net/meyafsxL
 
@Loktar Yep. Possibly my age.
 
@Loktar s/graduated/finished/ seems to be all that is needed
 
Bachelors in (whatever the name is I was going for) - Bellevue University <actively persuing>
 
$("me").hire(); //jquery rools!
 
7:05 PM
You should put a future date next to it
 
can you do var container = $("#optionsModal") || $("#splashModal");?
 
actively persuing on the next line :P
 
that'll confuse the hell out of them
 
Finished <school> in 2004
Honors in X,Y,Z
@SterlingArcher BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo00000oooOOOOooo...ooo))oo!!!111eleven
 
I always had the impression that your degree never mattered and employers would rather see your code
 
7:07 PM
@Deepak depends on the employer
 
True
smaller companies
 
actually I have found the opposite
larger companies use it as a 'filter' of sorts
 
@Loktar Yeah, I had something like that.
 
I mean larger companies are more likely to have a filter
 
user1596138
My thought on the matter is that however much they care about my degree/education (which are things that don't honestly determine that much) is how much I dislike them as a company.
 
7:09 PM
its CS degree or nothing
 
@Deepak Depends WIDELY on the employer
size isn't as much of an indicator as one may think
 
user1596138
That way if they care enough to not hire me over it, well I automagically dislike that enough to not work for them and we can just go separate ways.
 
I think it says a lot about the structure and who's really in charge
 
@SomeKittens That's what she said
 
classic
 
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7:10 PM
But I want to go to school.
 
if a company cares about my degree over my work I dont want to work for them anyway
generally means they are pretty stuck up
comparing IQ scores ect.
 
I've actually had quite a few good chats with employers
 
My IQ is 6
 
I have a genetics degree and they don't care in the slightest
 
user1596138
I put a lot of work into my scholarship apps this year.. Idk I know it's stupid wishful thinking but I have high hopes.
 
7:11 PM
@NickDugger Mine is 5.5"
 
user1596138
Buick always gives me $2,500 has for the last 3 years lol but I want them to give me the real deal hahaha
 
Yes I'm talking about my hands.
 
@Loktar Nice, that's like a whole year longer than mine
 
@Deepak Yeah, they care more that you finished than the type of degree
 
@SomeKittens It's nice if you can make a link though
 
haha
 
Python is everywhere including genetics so I could always fall back on that, no matter how weaker point it is
 
user1596138
They do 50 $25,000 4 year renewable scholarships each year... Haha if I got something like that I'd go to school in a heartbeat
 
How much does it cost to go to college?
 
in the US, college is a year's salary
 
7:14 PM
@rlemon hai
 
@NickDugger the unemployed must love that
 
BBROOOOooOOOOoOoooOOBROOOOOO!!!11!111114
 
@SterlingArcher get my email?
 
@Deepak Which is why the unemployed stay unemployed
 
I just did!
How to paypal you?
 
7:15 PM
Ouch, its steadily increasing over here as well
 
@SterlingArcher we'll settle later
payment on delivery ;)
 
hopefully a lagging effect from the recession
 
Ok good, because I just went to paypal and my account was randomly selected for security measures lol and I don't know my acct # by heart
When I get home I'll setup it and on devlivery I got you :) thanks a ton buddy this is awesome
 
Well.. the cost of college, plus the fact that virtually nobody considers trade professions, plus an overabundance of college graduates because "undergrad is the new high school", etc.
 
Can you mail me some poutine?
 
7:17 PM
The causes for unemployment are a bit more complex than "college is expensive, yo"
 
@SterlingArcher and when you are done with it, send it forward to someone else :P
we can be like the sisterhood of the traveling pants, but bros, and with ecigs
 
@Retsam Not to mention the continuing automation of work.
 
I'm already doing that with my old one :) It's going to a girl who really wants to quit smoking
She's so excited
 
you gonne get on that, bro?
 
@SomeKittens I think that's partly down to us
 
7:18 PM
the bro-hood of the traveling vapes
 
To increase employability we must stop coding
 
@Deepak Yep, makes the "Need a job to get experience, need experience to get a job" loop that much harder.
@Deepak Of course, that's putting 'employability' at a premium above other things
To increase employability we must ban tractors.
 
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@SomeKittens that shit is the best
 
and also kill oil companies
and defeat the terrorists
 
7:20 PM
and harness the power of the sun
There's actually a big push into apprenticeships here
 
and ride our bicycles with no handlebars
 
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I say replace the fast food workers with machines purely for sanitation reasons.. Fuck humans we are a terrible terrible thing. Replace us all. That's why I'm a dev haha I shouldn't become obsolete in my lifetime.. Maybe tho
 
peeople are really choosing between trades and uni
 
@Deepak Nothing wrong with that.
Where's "Here"? Germany?
 
I wouldn't trust food from a machine unless I could see how clean it was on the inside
england
 
7:21 PM
Mike Rowe (the guy who did a show called Dirty Job... and who narrates everything on the Discovery Channel) has some interesting things to say on employment...
 
@Deepak I don't think they are
If you care, you do uni and practical things at the same time
 
I have seen it first hand
 
Most people (regardless of whether they go to uni or not) don't care
 
I went to my old secondary school and I would say every other person at least mentioned apprenticeships (sixth form students)
 
I hope my brother doesn't open @rlemon 's package. He's risking an eyeful of penis if he does.
 
7:25 PM
@copy practical at the same time?
 
@SterlingArcher ahahahahaha
 
@Deepak Have your own projects, etc.
 
I think the profession plays a huge part. Can school help with development, of course. Is it a necessity? No. However to be a Dr. it is.
Our society puts too much emphasis on college imo.
Not everyone should go.
Also the huge amount of debt some people incur from it is just crazy to me... especially if they dont even end up in their field
 
I think if it was cheaper it would be totally the opposite
 
@Deepak meh, I think the content is what is important
if it was free but the lessons were shit I wouldnt want to go still
 
7:27 PM
people would say if you want to do something learn about it first and uni's have a huge range of courses
 
Are any colleges teaching ES6, or preprocessors for front end development.. I doubt it
Maybe in 5 years.
 
4-year college degree isn't always the most appropriate format for "learning about it"
 
@Loktar In Germany (and many other European countries), going to school has little to no costs
 
@Deepak sounds like something someone who wants your money would say :P
@copy time is still a cost
 
I'm actually surprised programming hasn't moved towards more being a trade than a four year "Computer Science" degree, than it has.
 
7:28 PM
if you could be employed in your profession at 18 and have 4 years of actual job experience at 22 rather than just coming out of school, that seems more important
again.. totally dependent on the career
 
Colleges are always far behind in front end and design things. Comp Sci will generally stay the same thing, but when it comes to specialties, they're stuck in the 80's
 
@Loktar But you need the education in some cases
 
yeah its definitely career dependent I agree. I generally think college isn't needed in any creative profession.
not to say its not helpful at all
 
College starts at 12 or so, right?
 
for us around 17-18
 
7:30 PM
lets all compare education to payscales! (no really lets not)
 
Oh, that's definitely not needed
 
its where you go after your general school studies are all done
 
@copy HighSchool is 12-16/17 most places here
 
@rlemon when I looked at business schools they were almost sure to mention how much their students were payed after
 
^ yea
 
7:31 PM
College/Uni is after that
@Deepak eng. schools here do that as well
 
hell all of our colleges do.
They tell you the job placement rate too
 
^
 
> 99% of our grads have jobs upon graduating
of course they dont say in their career field
 
ah
 
it could be a job at McDonalds, it still counts however
 
7:32 PM
DAMMIT LOKE STOP TYPING FASTER THAN ME
 
Some do specify in the career field
 
lol
 
1% of college graduates aren't smart enough to flip burgers
 
I have to delete everything jsut before I hit enter because you've just said it
 
sorry :/ I should be working anyway lol
 
7:33 PM
same
but friday
 
@KendallFrey there is a 88% chance that 1% is correct
I have seen some stuff
 
I would hope so
blindness would suck so hard
 
not at hard as your mom
 
... that wasn't my mom
I own a wig
 
oh dang
So you're telling me I filmed...
Uh oh.
 
7:36 PM
@Windows users. is there a hotkey to change my windows? like I have SO full screened on monitor 1 and ST full screened on monitor 2 and I want them to switch..
if not, @KendallFrey you should write me this
 
@rlemon Super+Shift+Direction when window is in focus to move to other screen. No way to swap everything from 2 monitors afaik.
 
you mean swap monitors kind of thing?
 
yea I know about the normal hotkeys
 
> Several special methods in ECMAScript 6 have keys that are symbols [3]. Computed method names allow you to define such methods. For example, if an object has a method whose key is Symbol.iterator, it is iterable [4]. That means that its contents can be iterated over by the for-of loop and other language mechanisms.
 
@KendallFrey swap all windows from one to the other, but keep monitor1 as monitor1 (so my task bar doesn't move)
 
right
don't think there is a keyboard shortcut to do that
 
boo
 
* [Symbol.iterator]() {
    for (let arg of this.args) {
        yield arg;
    }
}
SWEET
 
crl
something cool with Java is you don't always have to type this., but you need to declare variables..
 
afaik
DOM should work peacefully
when not visible aswell right ?
 
7:41 PM
Hi
all
 
without the overhead of rendering it ? // hopefully ?
 
How do I get this ipaddress in a variable ?
    $.get('http://jsonip.com/', function(r){ console.log(r.ip); cl_ip = r.ip;});
    console.log(cl_ip);
Currently it is printing in the console , I want to use it outside of this function.
 
@CatherineTyler well understand it this way
when you do function(r){ }
it creates a different scope for variables
 
@CatherineTyler you have to use something like Promises or pass the results to a new function.
 
but.
it will call it later !!!
 
7:43 PM
well, you don't have too, but that would be what I Would recommend
 
soo you have to somehow wait for that to happen.
so break your task in two parts
before making the request and after the request completes
 
$.get('http://jsonip.com/', function(r){ someFunctionThatUsesTheIp(r.ip) });
 
and pass the after the request complete to the function like how mr lemon just showed
 
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@KendallFrey did you just happen to know that about piston motion? I'm curious why you knew that. This is like one of those trick facts that you can use to mind fuck someone. I guarantee most people think the piston should cover exactly 50% of the motion on 50% of the rotation of the crank.
 
rip in peace
 
7:44 PM
@darkyen00, Thanks. The cl_ip is a global variable outside of the function
 
@rlemon btw you can do .then in jQuery
 
yea I don't know how jQuery's q works
never used it
so didn't want to suggest it :P
 
@rlemon, Oh okay
 
I have used it and it was terrible
 
@Jhawins It just felt wrong
 
7:45 PM
but then the jQUery :-
 
user1596138
You crazy
 
I've thought a bit about it before, and I knew the phenomenon existed
 
@Jhawins you == who ?
jk
 
user1596138
Its a very interesting thing.
 
function getIp() {
  return new Promise(function(resolve, reject) {
    $.get('http://jsonip.com/', function(r){ resolve(r.ip) }).fail(reject);
  }
}
getIp().then(function(ip) { console.log(ip) }).catch(function(error) { console.log(error) });;
 
7:47 PM
okay now that will just scare the person
 
@Jhawins Here's a puzzler for you: the system as it is now doesn't produce sinewave movement, but can you think of one that does?
 
@darkyen00 who needs $q :P
 
user1596138
There are a lot of engine simulations that are just dead wrong.
 
@darkyen00, It did !
@rlemon :O !
 
@darkyen00 yea that wasn't so much for @CatherineTyler as it was for you
:P
@CatherineTyler that is using 'promises' (albeit not in the best way because jQuery has their own promises I suppose)
 
7:48 PM
@rlemon, Never heard about promises either :O
 
function getIp() {
  return new Promise(function(resolve, reject) {
    $.get('http://jsonip.com/', function(r){ resolve(r.ip) }).fail(reject);
  }
}

function afterGetIpSuccessful(r){
    console.log(r.ip);
}

function afterGetIPFailure(){
    console.log('boohoo');
}

getIp().then(afterGetIPSuccess).catch(afterGetIPFailure);
 
they were scary at first, then I used them and now they are not
I suggest reading up on them
 
@darkyen00 :O @rlemon Thanks will read up
 
first, just use a callback so you can understand how async works
 
@rlemon I never put callbacks in promises even as demos
 
7:50 PM
then once you realize how quickly callback soup can grow. learn promises
 
it just confuses my mind :-(
 
@darkyen00 you mean anon functions?
 
but then my brain is extremely terrible piece of madness.
@rlemon yeap
 
kk
 
even if i can name them i won't do it there.
 
7:51 PM
@darkyen00 @rlemon , You guys are weird programmers :D
 
what makes me weird in your mind?
I'm not denying it, just curious
 
it just makes the code 2x readable
 
ermaghad! I just opened a file from 2013, I made myself sad again :(
 
*I must go back to work*/
 

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